Soldier Beheaded In London

[shiasoldier786]

A man believed to be a soldier has been beheaded in an attack on a street near the Woolwich barracks in London, witnesses report.

Metropolitan Police Commander Simon Letchford confirmed tonight that two men were shot by armed officers.

Prime Minister David Cameron has described the killing as "truly shocking" and said he had asked the Home Secretary Theresa May to chair a meeting of Cobra, the Government's emergency committee dealing with incidents that have implications for national security.

The Government is reported to be treating it as a suspected terrorist incident. Mrs May tonight confirmed she has been briefed by the Director General of the Security Service MI5 and the Met commissioner Sir Barnard Hogan-Howe on the "sickening and barbaric'' incident in Woolwich.

The Press Association is reporting that one Whitehall source said the attackers were heard to shout 'Allah Akbar'.

http://www.independe...ks-8627647.html

Hope they start deporting or locking up these salafi thugs now.

Edited May 22, 2013 by shiasoldier786

[Johanna]

They were not muslims they were Africans.

[Marbles]

"These two guys were crazed. They were just animals. They dragged him from the pavement and dumped his body in the middle of the road and left his body there," he told LBC radio.

He said after the "horrendous" attack, the two men, who were also in their 20s, stood around, waving knives and a gun, and asked people to take pictures of them "as if they wanted to be on TV or something".

"They were oblivious to anything, they were more worried about having their photo taken, running up and down the road," he said.

"Basically two men carried out an axe attack on a young army cadet walking along the street

...the people carrying out the attack were heard to say Allahu Akbar [God is Great],... LINK

So there we have it. Yet another example of Takfiri savagery.

Some more fuel for the burning fire of anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant politics.

They were not muslims they were Africans.

How do you mean?

Are Africans and Muslims mutually exclusive or do you mean something else?

Edited May 22, 2013 by Marbles

[forte]

They were not muslims they were Africans.

???Not sure what that means also.

Will this be fuel for a riot? :donno:

[Marbles]

Will this be fuel for a riot? :donno:

It is always difficult to predict the tipping point; it comes at at the most unusual turn of events.

[Johanna]

I mean they had no beards and were blacks. Watch tv for the videos of the two.

[Marbles]

I mean they had no beards and were blacks. Watch tv for the videos of the two.

Wel, 9/11 bombers had no beards either and you can be black and still be a Takfirist Salafi :donno:

Great deductive skills though...

[Ruq]

The Guardian site has some video of one of the apparent murderers and transcript of some of what he said: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/22/police-respond-serious-incident-woolwich

[Jahangiram]

Wel, 9/11 bombers had no beards either and you can be black and still be a Takfirist Salafi :donno:

Great deductive skills though...

You actually believe 9/11 was done by random porn obsessed salafis? :donno: This is the killer openly confessing and explaining he did what he did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keZFXWm3XC8

[forte]

It is always difficult to predict the tipping point; it comes at at the most unusual turn of events.

There may be backlash (from suspects' community) as the suspects were shot and killed by the police.

There is an investigation but it seems internal only.

Edited May 22, 2013 by forte

[Marbles]

The Guardian site has some video of one of the apparent murderers and transcript of some of what he said: http://www.guardian....cident-woolwich

I'd like to know what he means by "our lands". But apparently he used Islamist jihadi language which I can't hear in the video.

There may be backlash as the suspects were shot and killed by the police.

There is an investigation but it seems internal only.

I have not seen a report saying that the two attackers have been killed. I am reading that they are shot, injured and now being treated at a hospital.

You actually believe 9/11 was done by random porn obsessed salafis? :donno: This is the killer openly confessing and explaining he did what he did: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keZFXWm3XC8

I can't see the video but do spare us 9/11 conspiracy theories. They are lame and lazy.

[The Exalted One]

Hope they start deporting or locking up these salafi thugs now.

Yet ironically, it's mostly the innocent that get deported and locked.

These cartoons did a great job at providing 'em kaffirs a whip to beat the [Edited Out] out of us.

[Jahangiram]

I'd like to know what he means by "our lands". But apparently he used Islamist jihadi language which I can't hear in the video.

This is bs he never used any of this language, none of the witnesses said he did takbir or anything. The jihadi terrorist phenomenon is a non existent fabrication of western governments to instill fear in the population against the other and support their cause to have a clash with the 'islamic' world. You'd turn around and say Wahhabis would support this but just look at their official fatwas and websites like islamqa, they all recognize citizenship is an amanah that cant be betrayed by breaking the laws of the land.

Edited May 22, 2013 by Jahangiram

[forte]

I have not seen a report saying that the two attackers have been killed. I am reading that they are shot, injured and now being treated at a hospital.

Yeah you are right. They are in hospital. But it may not matter if they were shot by police there. It is very touchy in some areas.

[Jahangiram]

I'd like to know what he means by "our lands". But apparently he used Islamist jihadi language which I can't hear in the video.

I have not seen a report saying that the two attackers have been killed. I am reading that they are shot, injured and now being treated at a hospital.

I can't see the video but do spare us 9/11 conspiracy theories. They are lame and lazy.

Spare us? You've had over 10 years to do independent research yet ironically are lazy enough to just go with government propaganda. There's very strong evidence and its not lame, its been accepted by academics and many prominent engineers and such. But if you have the nerve to believe its ridiculous not believing cavemen in Afghanistan have an organised communication system across the muslim world that bypasses the leading military power, your choice.

Edited May 22, 2013 by Jahangiram

[Ruq]

Yeah you are right. They are in hospital. But it may not matter if they were shot by police there. It is very touchy in some areas.

I dont thing anyone needs to worry about any community getting upset that these people were shot. The worry is that right-wing nationalist extremists will now use this as an excuse to practice their own brand of evil-doing also.

[forte]

I dont thing anyone needs to worry about any community getting upset that these people were shot. The worry is that right-wing nationalist extremists will now use this as an excuse to practice their own brand of evil-doing also.

It is not so much that they were shot as to WHO shot them.

It will def push right wing agenda.

Edited May 22, 2013 by forte

[Marbles]

This is bs he never used any of this language, none of the witnesses said he did takbir or anything. The jihadi terrorist phenomenon is a non existent fabrication of western governments to instill fear in the population against the other and support their cause to have a clash with the 'islamic' world. You'd turn around and say Wahhabis would support this but just look at their official fatwas and websites like islamqa, they all recognize citizenship is an amanah that cant be betrayed by breaking the laws of the land.

Takfiri Wahhabis saying citizenship is an amanah? Aww that's sweet. Anjem Chaudhry didn't know that. Hmmm...

Closing your eyes won't make the Takfiri Jihadist genie go away. Like it or not.

Spare us? You've had over 10 years to do independent research yet ironically are lazy enough to just go with government propaganda. There's very strong evidence and its not lame, its been accepted by academics and many prominent engineers and such. But if you have the nerve to believe its ridiculous not believing cavemen in Afghanistan have an organised communication system across the muslim world thaQt bypasses the leading military power, your choice.

Thank you for giving me the choice. You are entitled to believe whatever you like. I, for one, have no mind for 9/11 truther nonsense. All the thrill to you. Enjoy http://en.wikipedia...._Truth_movement

[Jahangiram]

Takfiri Wahhabis saying citizenship is an amanah? Aww that's sweet. Anjem Chaudhry didn't know that. Hmmm...

Closing your eyes won't make the Takfiri Jihadist genie go away. Like it or not.

Thank you for giving me the choice. You are entitled to believe whatever you like. I, for one, have no mind for 9/11 truther nonsense. All the thrill to you. Enjoy http://en.wikipedia...._Truth_movement

Lol if you see his interviews he says himself he wont conduct a terrorist attack because he's under a 'covenant of security'. And its not nonsense, there's solid proof, engineers and academics have opinions much more valuable than an accountant pakistani like you. EDIT: Although I do admit a lot of the material that is presented by the average truther is just meaningless, but im not talking about the average joe stuck in his attic.

Edited May 22, 2013 by Jahangiram

[Marbles]

Lol if you see his interviews he says himself he wont conduct a terrorist attack because he's under a 'covenant of security'. And its not nonsense, there's solid proof, engineers and academics have opinions much more valuable than an accountant paki like you. EDIT: Although I do admit a lot of the material that is presented by the average truther is just meaningless, but im not talking about the average joe stuck in his attic.

Why you trying so hard to convince an accountant paki like me?

You're a new kid on these shores. I have been dealing with 9/11 truther nonsense since it has happened.

[Jahangiram]

Why you trying so hard to convince an accountant paki like me?

You're a new kid on these shores. I have been dealing with 9/11 truther nonsense since it has happened.

If you think everything is so ambiguous, then you probably missed the news on the bbc coverage of 9/11 when it reported the collapse of WTC 7 20 minutes before it did:

...and the resultant shock of the bbc when it found out it was exposed, making a whole programme on 9/11 truthers and trying to disprove them:

(I skipped to part 5 with jane reporting the collapse of wtc 7) ...oh and jane herself biting her nails over the exposé.

Anyway sorry for going off topic, don't you think its interesting how this one lone killer is given endless attention over the murder of one person? Plenty goes by without as much coverage; guess its time for us british muslims to bear the collective guilt and issue an official apology again...as usual...

[Marbles]

I asked why you are trying so hard to convince me? I thought you gave me the choice :rolleyes:

I'm way past the stage to engage in back and forth bickering over 9/11 nonsense. You might as well believe whatever you like if that helps your worldview. I concede it's simpler and easier to believe in conspiracies to get the satisfaction of easy, ready-made answers.

Anyway, I can't access the videos. I'm an accountant paki in pakiland you must know that.

Now stick to the topic.

Edited May 22, 2013 by Marbles

[peace seeker]

^^^

and where is the plane that hit the pentagon?

[Jahangiram]

I asked why you are trying so hard to convince me? I thought you gave me the choice :rolleyes:

I'm way past the stage to engage in back and forth bickering over 9/11 nonsense. You might well believe whatever you like if that helps your worldview. I concede it's simpler and easier to believe in conspiracies to get the satisfaction of easy, ready-made answers.

Anyway, I can't see videos. I'm an accountant paki in pakiland you must know that.

Oh, that's a really damn shame. Well its from a programme the bbc made trying hard to nullify the evidence against 9/11 being an inside job. Im not forcing you to believe. The bbc itself was trying to explain away why it reported wtc 7 collapsed 20 minutes before it did, I was just asking you to watch both sides of the argument. Nothing more. And im eager to prove this to you because I want muslims in third world countries to wake up with this damning evidence, instead of having the satisfaction of getting easy, ready-made answers from official government stories.

Now stick to the topic

Anyway sorry for going off topic, don't you think its interesting how this one lone killer is given endless attention over the murder of one person? Plenty goes by without as much coverage; guess its time for us british muslims to bear the collective guilt and issue an official apology again...as usual...

Edited May 22, 2013 by Jahangiram

[Marbles]

By the way, I immediately regretted having mentioned the 9/11 terrorists not having beards - I knew some people were going to get their panties in a bunch.

And im eager to prove this to you because I want muslims in third world countries to wake up with this damning evidence.

You can't compete with third world accountant Muslims when it comes to theorising all sorts of conspiracy theories. In fact, come here and get loaded with stuff you couldn't imagine a human mind can conjure up.

You're welcome.

[Replicant]

We live in a sick world. I have no hope left.

[Haydar Husayn]

Willek baba the video is 5 mins long, its from a programme the bbc made trying hard to nullify the evidence against 9/11 being an inside job. Im not forcing you to believe, just watch the short videos and judge for yourself. The bbc itself was trying to explain away why it reported wtc 7 collapsed 20 minutes before it did, im just asking you to watch both sides of the argument. Nothing more. And im eager to prove this to you because I want muslims in third world countries to wake up with this damning evidence.

Youtube is banned in Pakistan.

[Marbles]

Youtube is banned in Pakistan.

He's obviously not reading my words in sheer excitement.

Edited May 22, 2013 by Marbles

[Jahangiram]

Sorry I read your words, I edited my last post. Damn it I can never edit in time before a dude rushes to post again :donno: . Now you can read a fitting reply.

Edited May 22, 2013 by Jahangiram

[forte]

We live in a sick world. I have no hope left.

Me neither. Look at the comments. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d0f_1369235265#comment_page=2

[*Sayyeda*]

Me neither. Look at the comments. http://www.liveleak....#comment_page=2

(salam)

So much hate in those comments. One person even said burn down the mosques and it got a whole bunch of likes :no:

[Muhammed Ali]

A longer video:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2013/may/22/woolwich-suspect-attack-video

[Jahangiram]

A longer video:

http://www.guardian....ct-attack-video

'Eye for an eye' eh. Hmm it is a growing trend, these guys see these soldiers as bloodthirsty murderers and feel the need to retaliate to them. Unfortunate they do not respect due process.

[Marbles]

. One person even said burn down the mosques and it got a whole bunch of likes :no:

I don't think these sentiments surprise anymore.

[forte]

'Eye for an eye' eh. Hmm it is a growing trend, these guys see these soldiers as bloodthirsty murderers and feel the need to retaliate to them. Unfortunate they do not respect due process.

Anjem Choudary and his boys are high fiving.