Trouble Suburbs In Australia

[siraatoaliyinhaqqun]

http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/17129164/troubled-suburbs/

[Ali Musaaa :)]

Far out...

SubhanAllah... We have these 'Muslim' who want to wear the dress like the Prophet (sawa) yet they the Ahklaq of animals.

Sickens me... I wish I was there. This was filmed out the BookStore that is like a hub for terrorism. Apparently one Shi'a had a gun pulled on him when he was there :/ I've been in there a few times. Def not gonna ask if they have any 'Shia Books' LOL

My Mosque is literally like a two minute walk away from that bookstore and street. Alhamdulilah it's well hidden and secure.

[siraatoaliyinhaqqun]

Far out...

SubhanAllah... We have these 'Muslim' who want to wear the dress like the Prophet (sawa) yet they the Ahklaq of animals.

Sickens me... I wish I was there. This was filmed out the BookStore that is like a hub for terrorism. Apparently one Shi'a had a gun pulled on him when he was there :/ I've been in there a few times. Def not gonna ask if they have any 'Shia Books' LOL

My Mosque is literally like a two minute walk away from that bookstore and street. Alhamdulilah it's well hidden and secure.

Are you talking about the one at Auburn.? Anyway brother I will post an anonymous reporting phone number so you can report any kind of unaustralian behaviour you come across, if any. They are few and they are badly misrepresenting all 8,00,000 Muslims of Australia and we cannot allow such scum bags do whatever they want. And our responsibility is to teach our Shi'a brothers to persevere in these difficult times

[Ali-Reza]

Poor Australians :(

[Ali Musaaa :)]

Are you talking about the one at Auburn.? Anyway brother I will post an anonymous reporting phone number so you can report any kind of unaustralian behaviour you come across, if any. They are few and they are badly misrepresenting all 8,00,000 Muslims of Australia and we cannot allow such scum bags do whatever they want. And our responsibility is to teach our Shi'a brothers to persevere in these difficult times

No, I meant the one in the video. In the video you posted the incident occurred outside of a bookshop.

[Abdul Qaim]

The street scenes were filmed in the centre of Bankstown, just near the Old Town Plaza. My house is a 5 minute drive from Bankstown, and it's where I do my shopping. These fat Salafi thugs are everywhere and I'm sure I've walked past some of the scumbags that were filmed in this piece...

[Ibn al-Hassan]

The level of ignorance present in these Nawasib is just mind-boggling.

(wasalam)

[Ali Musaaa :)]

The street scenes were filmed in the centre of Bankstown, just near the Old Town Plaza. My house is a 5 minute drive from Bankstown, and it's where I do my shopping. These fat Salafi thugs are everywhere and I'm sure I've walked past some of the scumbags that were filmed in this piece...

Do you know Al-Rasool A'adham Mosque? It's supervised by Ayatollah al-Ansari

[Abdul Qaim]

Do you know Al-Rasool A'adham Mosque? It's supervised by Ayatollah al-Ansari

Yes, I do. More like a large house than a masjid, but it's what happens on the inside that matters ...

[siraatoaliyinhaqqun]

No, I meant the one in the video. In the video you posted the incident occurred outside of a bookshop.

Okay, I thought they even showed lakemba ey? I used to live there few years ago. I still come to eat at jasmine. I think the problem is for shia businesses in the area. I can't understand these people. Do they have a religion

[GreyMatter]

If I saw myself being surrounded by Takfiris, I'd just do Lanah on their beloved, sure i'll get beaten up by 20 enraged people, but i'll get to lock 'em allllll up, one by one lol.

I don't do Lanah, never, but incase people are intimidating me, disrespecting and spitting on me, then Lanah all the way.

Edited May 14, 2013 by GreyMatter

[Ali Musaaa :)]

Yes, I do. More like a large house than a masjid, but it's what happens on the inside that matters ...

LOL yeah it is more of a large house.

[Ibn al-Hassan]

If I saw myself being surrounded by Takfiris, I'd just do Lanah on their beloved, sure i'll get beaten up by 20 enraged people, but i'll get to lock 'em allllll up, one by one lol.

I don't do Lanah, never, but incase people are intimidating me, disrespecting and spitting on me, then Lanah all the way.

You'll have the law enforcement on your back, right?

(wasalam)

[GreyMatter]

You'll have the law enforcement on your back, right?

(wasalam)

Well I am sure they well come, after I get beaten up that is. :P

Edited May 14, 2013 by GreyMatter

[Abdul Qaim]

You'll have the law enforcement on your back, right?

(wasalam)

Yeah, you'd better call them first and make sure they are just around the corner because if these neanderthals have half a chance they will decapitate you whilst taking video of the carnage so that they can post it on their favourite Youtube channel.

Edited May 14, 2013 by Abdul Qaim

[Ibn al-Hassan]

Yeah, you'd better call them first and make sure they are just around the corner because if these neanderthals have half a chance they will decapitate you whilst taking video of the carnage so that they can post it on their favourite Youtube channel.

Probably rip your heart right out of you and eat it too... :sick:

(wasalam)

[UnknownShia]

that gurilla dressed like a begger from the 11th century is called "omar" , go figure

[pepsi]

Probably rip your heart right out of you and eat it too... :sick:

(wasalam)

Not a probability, but a reality now.

Warning: extremely graphic content in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmvZ7wTLoz4

[Palabras]

Wow that video was intense for me.. I was pretty scared for the guy that got punched in the face. Glad there was some justice though.

[Inquisitor]

I really pray for brothers in Australia - bro. Abdul Qaim, sirat, AliMusaa and others. May Allah protect you guys always in such times and always.

May the wrath of Allah descend on these takfiris Salafi idiotic scumbags of the earth and wipe them and their filth away. The earth is getting polluted by their mere presence.

[Al-Hassan]

Probably rip your heart right out of you and eat it too... :sick:

(wasalam)

Not a probability, but a reality now.

Warning: extremely graphic content in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmvZ7wTLoz4

:mellow:......Allahuma 'jel le-walyaka al faraj....... :sick: :sick:

Edited May 14, 2013 by PurifiedTruth

[Ali Musaaa :)]

I really pray for brothers in Australia - bro. Abdul Qaim, sirat, AliMusaa and others. May Allah protect you guys always in such times and always.

May the wrath of Allah descend on these takfiris Salafi idiotic scumbags of the earth and wipe them and their filth away. The earth is getting polluted by their mere presence.

I seriously had no idea how bad it was up here until I moved to the area for Uni. Good ol' Wollongong by the sea was rather peaceful.

[Abdul Qaim]

Not a probability, but a reality now.

Warning: extremely graphic content in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmvZ7wTLoz4

That's nothing. Check this one out, but make sure you have a strong stomach. EXTREMELY GRAPHIC VIDEO OF SALAFIS AT WORK.

[Al-Hassan]

That's nothing. Check this one out, but make sure you have a strong stomach. EXTREMELY GRAPHIC VIDEO OF SALAFIS AT WORK.

To be fair though, it's worth to look at both side here. The free Syrian army isn't any better. Here is one sample video to see why. Excuse the vulgar language.

[south-lebanon]

Lived in St George area all my life and only been to Bankstown once....Thank god for that!!

[Abdul Qaim]

Lived in St George area all my life and only been to Bankstown once....Thank god for that!!

That's because the Lebanese in your area are more likely to come from Binti Jbeil than Tripoli.

[Ali Musaaa :)]

That's because the Lebanese in your area are more likely to come from Binti Jbeil than Tripoli.

No offence to anyone here but honestly I cannot stand that dreaded accent some of these chaps are rocking. Not only does it make Muslims look like backward weirdo's who cannot be taken seriously but it sounds horrid.

Yes... You all know what I'm talking about...

Edited May 14, 2013 by Ali Musaaa :)

[Al-Hassan]

http://au.news.yahoo...oubled-suburbs/

On a side note. I think me and my boys should consider paying a visit to Australia.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GdmK2IkEIs

[Wizdom]

On a side note. I think me and my boys should consider paying a visit to Australia.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GdmK2IkEIs

No offence, but what have your 'boys' actually contributed? You sing and dance and curse, and that's about it.

My 'boys', on the other hand, freed the shrine of Imam Hassan al-Askari from Nawassib hands; cleansed many of Iraq's areas of Nawassib; contributed to the well-being and security of Shia in Iraq; and that is not even to mention the intellectual contributions - the list is endless.

These 'boys' have freed Lebanon from Israeli occupation, and preserved the country from American influence.

Now tell me, who has protected the Shia more?

Edited May 14, 2013 by Wizdom

[Al-Hassan]

No offence, but what have your 'boys' actually contributed? You sing and dance and curse, and that's about it.

My 'boys', on the other hand, freed the shrine of Imam Hassan al-Askari from Nawassib hands; cleansed many of Iraq's areas of Nawassib; contributed to the well-being and security of Shia in Iraq; and that is not even to mention the intellectual contributions - the list is endless.

These 'boys' have freed Lebanon from Israeli occupation, and preserved the country from American influence.

Now tell me, who has protected the Shia more?

Based on what you stated, you make it seem as if Sheik Yasser is expected to have an army similar to as Hezbollah's in order for him to be recognized for contributing to the community. You can't compare the two, it's like comparing apples to oranges. Sheik Yasser focuses only on intellectual and religious matters and not political matters that Hezbollah does. He does not have his own "Hezbollah" group and nor does he need one in order for the community to recognize him. He contributes a lot to the community by spreading his knowledge and for defending the school of the Ahlulbayt. Really, if you examine it from an unbiased viewpoint , he really contributes the same way as Sayed Kamal Al-Haidari , except that Sayed Kamal is more knowledgeable than him. Nevertheless, Sheik Yasser , having studied 14 years in Hawza, still has more resources than Sayed Kamal Al-Haidari , so defintly he contributes a lot to the community.

Moreover, Sheik Yasser Al-Habib is a qualified mujtahid and this is officially proven, since he is recognized by Ayatollah Sayed Sadeq Al-Shirazi and the leader of the Najaf Hawza seminaries by the name of Ayatollah Sayed Hassan Al-Imami. Here are his qualifications to prove that.

http://alqatrah.net/edara/index.php?id=235

So no doubt that Sheik Yasser is recognized by the Maraje', and it would be very illogical and ridiculous to deny that by claiming that his qualifications would have been potentially fabricated or fake, because if indeed they are fake, the maraje' would speak out against him as they would view him as a figure of deviation. However, since they haven't outwardly spoken against him , it clearly shows that he is recognized.

Moreover, with all due respect, but "my boys" Shirazis and habibi's, have intellectually contributed more to the Islamic community than your boys did.

If we compare Shiek Yasser to Hassan Nassrallah, there is no doubt that Shiek Yasser has indeed contributed more intellectually than Nasrallah did and the research and available contributions from Sheik Yasser can easily be accessed on his website. With all due respect, but Hassan Nassrallah, is not a qualified Mujtahid like Sheik Yasser is, and nor does he have the same amount of knowledge as Sheik Yasser. So please tell me now how much Hassan Nassrallah contributes intellectually to the community more than Sheik Yasser does? I'm not saying that Hassan Nassrallah didn't contribute anything to Islam, no he did, but spreading Islam through 'ilm is much better than spreading it through politic movements carrying the banner of Ilsma. With out 'Ilm there would be no Islam, but without the politics of Nassrallah and his movements, Islam can still survive from an intellectual viewpoint.

In comparison of Ayatollah Sayed Sadeq Al-Shirazi, and Allama Yaqoobi, there is no doubt that Sayed Sadeq has indeed contributed intellectually more than Allama Al-Yaqoobi and is more knowledgeable. Sayed Sadeq Al-Shirazi is refereed to as the decorator of the Hawza seminaries of Najaf and Qum by the hawza leaders and for his excellence in teaching the students there. Aside from the volumes of books he's written, which I'm sure every marja writes the same way, he is the most knowledgeable scholar that is recognized in Qum, more recognized than Allama Yaqoobi. This is stated on his website as I will quote here.

He developed the reputation for expertise and excellence in Fiqh and Ijtihaad such that he became renowned in the elite circles of top scholar and Ulema in the holy city of Qum, and before that in the holy cities of Karbala and Najaf, for his distinction and brilliance in various fields such as Usul, hadith, logic, righteousness, piety, etc.

Aside from Sayed Sadeq, the Shirazi family in general are deeply rooted in knowledge that have had scholars contributing all the way from their ancestors that root back to Imam Hussayn(as) and this same knowledge has been passing down from generation after generation. Imam Muhamed Al-Shirazi, wrote over 1200 books during his life, which as of now, is more than any books written other scholars, even more than Sadeq Shirazi. His books highly contributed to the our Shia library and made it much richer and intellectual as ever. So no doubt, that with so many books written by him to add on to our library, his contribution is much greater than Allama Yaqoobi.

Regarding the open Tabara that you see in the video you posted, people tend to assume that this is the only thing Sheik Yasser does for most of his time, that is , curse and send la3an 24/7. Obviously, what people haven't realized that they narrowly examined him in such a way that lead them to make such a conclusion. But nevertheless, there are misconceptions that arise on every well known person, so it shouldn't be surprising . All people need to do is reexamine him to get the biger picture. Nevertheless, what they are doing in the video reflects closely to the Sunnah of the Ahlulbayt(as) as they are doing open tabara on Aisha. And this hadith proves that.

This Hadith is Sahih

الكافي للشيخ الكليني (ج2 / ص376) : محمد بن يحيى ، عن محمد بن الحسين ، عن أحمد بن محمد بن أبي نصر ، عن داود ابن سرحان ، عن أبي عبد الله ( عليه السلام ) قال : قال رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) : إذا رأيتم أهل الريب والبدع من بعدي فأظهر البراءة منهم وأكثروا من سبهم والقول فيهم والوقيعة وباهتوهم كيلا يطمعوا في الفساد في الاسلام ويحذرهم الناس ولا يتعلمون من بدعهم يكتب الله لكم بذلك الحسنات ويرفع لكم به الدرجات في الآخرة

Notice how it says "fa ithhero al bara minhum wa ikthero min sabehom"(do baraa’ (disassociation) from them and increase in your insults (sabihim) to them), and by using the word "fa ith-hereo" , which in Arabic literary means to show outwardly , it clearly portrays to outwardly do tabara on them. That means insulting and doing la'an outwardly toward them is allowed and mustahab according to this hadith and that is exactly what Sheik Yasser Al-Habib's methodology reflects on

And Allah(swt) knows best

(wasalam)

[Wizdom]

Based on what you stated, you make it seem as if Sheik Yasser is expected to have an army similar to as Hezbollah's in order for him to be recognized for contributing to the community. You can't compare the two, it's like comparing apples to oranges. Sheik Yasser focuses only on intellectual and religious matters and not political matters that Hezbollah does. He does not have his own "Hezbollah" group and nor does he need one in order for the community to recognize him. He contributes a lot to the community by spreading his knowledge and for defending the school of the Ahlulbayt. Really, if you examine it from an unbiased viewpoint , he really contributes the same way as Sayed Kamal Al-Haidari , except that Sayed Kamal is more knowledgeable than him. Nevertheless, Sheik Yasser , having studied 14 years in Hawza, still has more resources than Sayed Kamal Al-Haidari , so defintly he contributes a lot to the community.

Moreover, Sheik Yasser Al-Habib is a qualified mujtahid and this is officially proven, since he is recognized by Ayatollah Sayed Sadeq Al-Shirazi and the leader of the Najaf Hawza seminaries by the name of Ayatollah Sayed Hassan Al-Imami. Here are his qualifications to prove that.

http://alqatrah.net/...ndex.php?id=235

So no doubt that Sheik Yasser is recognized by the Maraje', and it would be very illogical and ridiculous to deny that by claiming that his qualifications would have been potentially fabricated or fake, because if indeed they are fake, the maraje' would speak out against him as they would view him as a figure of deviation. However, since they haven't outwardly spoken against him , it clearly shows that he is recognized.

Moreover, with all due respect, but "my boys" Shirazis and habibi's, have intellectually contributed more to the Islamic community than your boys did.

If we compare Shiek Yasser to Hassan Nassrallah, there is no doubt that Shiek Yasser has indeed contributed more intellectually than Nasrallah did and the research and available contributions from Sheik Yasser can easily be accessed on his website. With all due respect, but Hassan Nassrallah, is not a qualified Mujtahid like Sheik Yasser is, and nor does he have the same amount of knowledge as Sheik Yasser. So please tell me now how much Hassan Nassrallah contributes intellectually to the community more than Sheik Yasser does? I'm not saying that Hassan Nassrallah didn't contribute anything to Islam, no he did, but spreading Islam through 'ilm is much better than spreading it through politic movements carrying the banner of Ilsma. With out 'Ilm there would be no Islam, but without the politics of Nassrallah and his movements, Islam can still survive from an intellectual viewpoint.

In comparison of Ayatollah Sayed Sadeq Al-Shirazi, and Allama Yaqoobi, there is no doubt that Sayed Sadeq has indeed contributed intellectually more than Allama Al-Yaqoobi and is more knowledgeable. Sayed Sadeq Al-Shirazi is refereed to as the decorator of the Hawza seminaries of Najaf and Qum by the hawza leaders and for his excellence in teaching the students there. Aside from the volumes of books he's written, which I'm sure every marja writes the same way, he is the most knowledgeable scholar that is recognized in Qum, more recognized than Allama Yaqoobi. This is stated on his website as I will quote here.

Aside from Sayed Sadeq, the Shirazi family in general are deeply rooted in knowledge that have had scholars contributing all the way from their ancestors that root back to Imam Hussayn(as) and this same knowledge has been passing down from generation after generation. Imam Muhamed Al-Shirazi, wrote over 1200 books during his life, which as of now, is more than any books written other scholars, even more than Sadeq Shirazi. His books highly contributed to the our Shia library and made it much richer and intellectual as ever. So no doubt, that with so many books written by him to add on to our library, his contribution is much greater than Allama Yaqoobi.

Regarding the open Tabara that you see in the video you posted, people tend to assume that this is the only thing Sheik Yasser does for most of his time, that is , curse and send la3an 24/7. Obviously, what people haven't realized that they narrowly examined him in such a way that lead them to make such a conclusion. But nevertheless, there are misconceptions that arise on every well known person, so it shouldn't be surprising . All people need to do is reexamine him to get the biger picture. Nevertheless, what they are doing in the video reflects closely to the Sunnah of the Ahlulbayt(as) as they are doing open tabara on Aisha. And this hadith proves that.

This Hadith is Sahih

And Allah(swt) knows best

(wasalam)

A quick skim read:

1. There is no Syed al-Imami in Najaf.
   
2. Number of books =/= level of knowledge.
   
3. No serious Mujtahid worth his salt would declare Yassir a Mujtahid.
   
4. Countless scholars have condemned Yassir.
   
5. More recognised in Qom is irrelevant. Shirazi is based in Qom. Yaqoobi is more recognised in Najaf.
   
6. Shirazi may have a large following, but on a scholarly level, he does not command much respect or accreditation.
   

[south-lebanon]

That's because the Lebanese in your area are more likely to come from Binti Jbeil than Tripoli.

Thats correct, but it would be nice if shia's of all nationalities moved into the area

No offence to anyone here but honestly I cannot stand that dreaded accent some of these chaps are rocking. Not only does it make Muslims look like backward weirdo's who cannot be taken seriously but it sounds horrid.

Yes... You all know what I'm talking about...

Sorry but what accent are you talking about exactly, is it from the guys in the video, or are you talking about the Lebanese guys in general.

[Wizdom]

Moreover, Sheik Yasser Al-Habib is a qualified mujtahid and this is officially proven, since he is recognized by Ayatollah Sayed Sadeq Al-Shirazi and the leader of the Najaf Hawza seminaries by the name of Ayatollah Sayed Hassan Al-Imami. Here are his qualifications to prove that.

http://alqatrah.net/...ndex.php?id=235

It doesn't say Ijtihad anywhere on that page. All it says is that the said scholars respect Yassir al-Landani's knowledge.

Furthermore, according to the page, Syed al-Imami is based in Isfahan, not Najaf.

I can barely read the Ijazas themselves, as the scans are small. However, the first two seem to be listing the names of scholars - perhaps they are declarations that Yassir has studied those books in the Hawza? The final one is a commendation for Yassir's work. Not one of them has referred to Yassir as an Ayatallah, despite the fact that Syed Sadiq often uses the term when describing other scholars.

I may have missed something in the Ijazas, because like I said, they are difficult to read. But the page itself certainly doesn't make any claims of Ijtihad.

Edited May 14, 2013 by Wizdom

[Al-Hassan]

It doesn't say Ijtihad anywhere on that page. All it says is that the said scholars respect Yassir al-Landani's knowledge.

Furthermore, according to the page, Syed al-Imami is based in Isfahan, not Najaf.

I can barely read the Ijazas themselves, as the scans are small. However, the first two seem to be listing the names of scholars - perhaps they are declarations that Yassir has studied those books in the Hawza? The final one is a commendation for Yassir's work. Not one of them has referred to Yassir as an Ayatallah, despite the fact that Syed Sadiq often uses the term when describing other scholars.

I may have missed something in the Ijazas, because like I said, they are difficult to read. But the page itself certainly doesn't make any claims of Ijtihad.

Here this will help. I guess it`s hard to get the full message from that paper.

[peace seeker]

On a side note. I think me and my boys should consider paying a visit to Australia.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GdmK2IkEIs

..... and make things worse and cause more division and fuel more hatred with you innovating practices.

who of the maasumeen sang about anybody being in the fire?? you guys seem to be very confident about your own destiny concerning the fire to start singing about it like that.

you guys must feel very safe from the fire!

provocation in cowardly way. this is teasing and fueling more and more hatred. you and your boys would be better off doing what the imams did, and not doing what the imams didnt do.

H 14499 –From him, from Ahmad Bin Muhammad, from Ali Bin Al-Hakam, from Hassaan, from

Abu Ali who said:

‘I heard Abu Abdullahasws saying: ‘Do not mention our secrets opposite to what we say publicly, and do not publicise us opposite to our secrets. It suffices for you all that you should say what weasws say, and remain silent about what we have observed silence on. You have seen that Allah azwj Mighty and Majestic have never Kept any good for anyone from the people in opposition to us. Allah azwj Mighty and Majestic Says: ]24:63[“therefore let those beware who go against his order lest a trial afflict them or there befalls upon them a painful chastisement.”

do what the imams did and dont do what they didnt do, or else face a "painful chastisement."