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It's time to face up to the problem of sexual abuse in the white community

Every day across Britain, it seems, there's a new and horrific revelation of sexual abuse: last week we had the guilty plea of veteran TV presenter Stuart Hall, who confessed to 14 cases of indecent assault against 13 girls, the youngest only nine years old.

Days earlier the possible scale of child abuse in north Wales children's homes was revealed. We now know there were 140 allegations of historical abuse between 1963 and 1992. A total of 84 suspected offenders have been named, and it's claimed the abuse took place across 18 children's homes.

But after the shock has subsided and we have time to reflect on these revolting crimes, the main question in most reasonable people's minds must surely be: what is it about white people that makes them do this?

Jimmy Savile is alleged to have abused 300 young people, and in his case and in north Wales, the abuse could not have happened without a wide range of co-conspirators either grooming children or ensuring the truth never got out. Hardly a week goes by without another white man being arrested in connection with sexual abuse.

I'm beginning to feel sorry for whites. I have many white friends and I know most of them are wholly opposed to sexual abuse. But they must be worried that their whole community is getting a bad name. I can imagine that, every day, with each unfolding case, they must be hiding their face behind their hands, pleading: "Please, God, don't let it be a white person this time."

And with so many senior community figures implicated, many of us are starting to wonder what will happen to the next generation of whites. How will today's young whites learn that abuse is wrong when their role models are so tarnished?

First, though, we need to find out what's causing the problem. Is it something to do with white people's culture? Is it something to do with their loss of empire, and their new role in the world, as a diminished state desperately clinging to its glorious past? Do they seek to impose their last vestiges of power on the most vulnerable in society?

Or is it that, having spent so much of their history waging wars against each other, they cannot cope with the relative peace of the last half-century, and their frustration at not fighting is taken out on the weakest? I may have no evidence for this, but that's not going to stop me putting it out there as a cause.

Or maybe it's their religion? Child abuse in the priesthood has, of course, also been tolerated for decades, allowed to continue unpunished through a conspiracy of silence among the church hierarchy.

And despite the recent falls in attendance, Christianity still dominates European culture. And the Bible, which many whites still look to, has such verses as: "Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die. If you strike him with the rod, you will save his soul from Sheol [hell]." (Proverbs 23:13-14) It hardly fits with white society's claims to care for children. And even those who don't believe, such as Richard Dawkins, a senior cleric in the atheist community, have sought to downplay the gravity of child abuse, believing it's no worse than religion itself. As he wrote: "Horrible as sexual abuse no doubt was, the damage was arguably less than the long-term psychological damage inflicted by bringing the child up Catholic in the first place." Of course, what we really need now is for brave white community leaders to come out and distance themselves from the abusers.

Maybe, say, the new head of the Equality and Human Rights Commission should come out and admit the issue is "racial and cultural" and that she fears that "in those communities there were people who knew what was going on and didn't say anything, either because they're frightened or they're so separated from the rest of the communities". Or a white cabinet member could say: "There is a small minority of white men who believe that young children are fair game. And we have to be prepared to say that. You can only start solving a problem if you acknowledge it first." Or the head of a leading children's charity could say: "There is very troubling evidence that whites are overwhelmingly represented in the prosecutions for such offences." Yet none of this has happened. And this saddens me. Because until we hear those brave voices speaking out against abuse, what are we meant to think?

I urge white people to break this conspiracy of silence. Call on your leaders to show leadership. To show us all that you're not like the people who dominate the news headlines. That you really do care about protecting children.

You may think all the above is ridiculous; that I'm stirring ethnic tensions on an issue that is clearly about individuals and small groups of people and has nothing to do with race or religion. And that by making this spurious case I'm ignoring the core issue, which is that children, many of them in vulnerable situations, were terrorised and physically harmed by opportunistic men who were able to get away with their crimes for years. You'd be right.

But all of the above arguments were made within various parts of our print and broadcast media when similarly small numbers of Muslim men were revealed to be grooming young girls for sex. If you think the claims about white people are wrong, then so is the stereotyping of Britain's Muslims, and the widespread questioning of their culture and their religion, because of the perverted actions of a few.

Since the "black crime shock" tabloid stories of the 1980s, editors have known that stoking fears about misunderstood minorities is good for sales. If you object to this article, then you should understand how it feels to be a Muslim reading similar pieces pandering to Islamophobia day after day – and you should object to those too.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/may/06/sexual-abuse-in-white-community

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Nice article. These crimes are always disturbing, but when theres an implied racial element to them (like a groups of asian men apparently just targeting white girls) it naturally adds an extra element of alarm, like it would do if a group of white men were only targeting poor, black girls, for instance.

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I'm sure the author of this article means well, but this kind of rhetoric almost always does more harm than good.

If the Muslim (or any) community has an inherent problem, it should be faced and dealt with. Pointing at other people and saying "well you guys are just as bad" solves nothing and makes us look like we're part of the problem.

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I'm sure the author of this article means well, but this kind of rhetoric almost always does more harm than good.

If the Muslim (or any) community has an inherent problem, it should be faced and dealt with. Pointing at other people and saying "well you guys are just as bad" solves nothing and makes us look like we're part of the problem.

I might agree if it was a muslim doing the pointing, but it's different when a non-muslim does it. Even if there is a problem with some muslims, its an undeniable fact that some of this reporting is done through an islamophobic and racist lens, and also done with the aim of selling papers rather than objectively reporting the news. It's a good thing that this is pointed out to people. And it's not inconsistent with ackowledging that something needs to be done to prevent these crimes. ''Well you guys are just as bad'' means stop just focusing on Muslims as if they are the only problem, and acknowledge that it's sick people in all communities. If anything, this would make it easier to address any issues within the muslim community, as Muslims won't feel that they are being uniquely targetted, and so be more open to solutions.

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I think he does have a valid point. When the gang up north were reported, much was made of the fact that it was asian men abusing white girls and that this was indicative of an attitude that the asian community specifically needed to address. I didnt follow the case, so i dont know if they admitted to deliberately targeting white girls, but it could also be the case that race wasnt a conscious issue. It could be they happened to be all asian because asians tend to socialise more closely with other asians there and that the girls happened to be all white because there are just a disproportionate amount of vulnerable white girls (many were in the care system i believe) hanging around in that area to be manipulated and exploited. The press didnt wait to find out, it seems to me. From the beginning certain papers were making it a race issue, before they knew if it was or not.

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I think he does have a valid point. When the gang up north were reported, much was made of the fact that it was asian men abusing white girls and that this was indicative of an attitude that the asian community specifically needed to address. I didnt follow the case, so i dont know if they admitted to deliberately targeting white girls, but it could also be the case that race wasnt a conscious issue. It could be they happened to be all asian because asians tend to socialise more closely with other asians there and that the girls happened to be all white because there are just a disproportionate amount of vulnerable white girls (many were in the care system i believe) hanging around in that area to be manipulated and exploited. The press didnt wait to find out, it seems to me. From the beginning certain papers were making it a race issue, before they knew if it was or not.

It wasn't just one gang, there have been a whole bunch of them. And it's pretty clear that they do view White girls as of a lower class to Asian girls. There is no chance they would have done anything close to that with Asian girls.

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^ Im not saying that isnt the case. Im talking about the approach of the press with that first big case in Yorkshire...or where ever it was. There seems to be an eagerness with some sections to find religious and racial angles with stories, and many times the race or religion of the person is completely irrelevant.

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All I'm reading is some guy with a chip on his shoulder making a rather lame attempt at satire.

I don't know. I really get the point he was making. :-/

I'm sure the author of this article means well, but this kind of rhetoric almost always does more harm than good.

If the Muslim (or any) community has an inherent problem, it should be faced and dealt with. Pointing at other people and saying "well you guys are just as bad" solves nothing and makes us look like we're part of the problem.

Ok. I get this point as well.

But the first guys post really made me feel what it would be like to be on the other end.

Even if there is a problem with some muslims, its an undeniable fact that some of this reporting is done through an islamophobic and racist lens, and also done with the aim of selling papers rather than objectively reporting the news.

This I disagree with. I really do think we are all just looking for the truth.

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I might agree if it was a muslim doing the pointing, but it's different when a non-muslim does it.
Not really brother, this guy is a well known black journalist. Maybe not a Muslim, but still a member of a minority here in the UK. As far as the natives will be concerned, this is just one foreigner defending another.
Even if there is a problem with some muslims, its an undeniable fact that some of this reporting is done through an islamophobic and racist lens
Yes, some of this reporting, but not all. In fact most of the mainstream reporting in the UK is quite balanced (despite the accusations of those with a persecution complex) but may well change in the not too distant future. Then we'll look at old issues of the Daily Mail and wonder how liberal things were back in 2013 lol.
and also done with the aim of selling papers rather than objectively reporting the news.
We live in a Capitalist society, this is to be expected. The same sensationalist treatment is given to all news stories, not just those involving Muslims.
It's a good thing that this is pointed out to people.
Perhaps, but like I said, it does more harm than good overall. To the average Brit, it comes across as making excuses instead of tackling the problem.
And it's not inconsistent with ackowledging that something needs to be done to prevent these crimes. ''Well you guys are just as bad'' means stop just focusing on Muslims as if they are the only problem, and acknowledge that it's sick people in all communities.
This acknowledgement is out in the open already brother, if anything it is being handled far more gently than it should be. Compare the criticism the Catholics received over their scandals.
If anything, this would make it easier to address any issues within the muslim community, as Muslims won't feel that they are being uniquely targetted, and so be more open to solutions.
It doesn't matter if Muslims feel they are being targeted or not, these problems should be addressed. It can be argued that if our community does feel targeted, we would be more pro-active in solving them instead of pretending they don't exist or blaming everything on outside influence.

The harsh reality is that we are quickly becoming unwelcome guests in their country, even if we were born here. Whether we like it or not, or whether it's fair or not, we should hold ourselves up to a higher standard, knowing full well that if one of us makes a mistake, it will be used against us all.

Besides, as Muslims, shouldn't we be setting a superior example, instead of showing we are no better then them?

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Reporting crimes perpetrated by Muslims does sometimes get racial/religious colouring and sometimes the whole phenomenon is overblown to make it look like most Muslims out there are looking for white girls to trap. This is yellow journalism for you, the untamed horse of tabloids that pervades all newsstands in the West. This ghettoisation of Muslim community still doesn't mean we can deny the existence of a mindset among some black/brown sections of (Muslims AND non-Muslims) with origins in the Eastern countries that see white girls as fair game.

This mindset sees white girls as trash for their liberal sexual views, late night outings, drinks and even drugs. "What's so hard getting a white girl? They give out themselves to anyone", said a guy I knew. I am only quoting the purified version not the actual abusive and insulting language he used. And that guy wasn't Muslim. He was a Hindu from India. So to think this mindset is limited to Muslims from Eastern backgrounds is to make a big mistake.

What makes it easier to get white girls is the relative freedom for young adults (females) in white community. Whereas girls from Muslim and even non-Muslim Eastern backgrounds are sheltered and protected (a community practice brought to the West from 'back home') the same can't be said for most of the young (teenage) generations of native Westerners where individualistic lifestyles and personal decision-making is given importance over strict parental controls, and sometimes due to lack of experience and easy trust those young girls fall prey to the machinations of the evil men.

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