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Discuss Pakistan Election 2013 Here.

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Absolute, open and clear rigging by Khawaja Saad Rafiq of PML-N in Defence,Lahore.

Saad Rafiq was losing miserably but the way he rigged the polls right in front of our eyes is astonishing.

I never supported PML-N but still had always felt that Saad Rafiq was a better man.

But....the reality is clear now. Shame on Saad Rafiq - the liar and the criminal.

http://vimeo.com/65960464

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he hates iran and loves saudi arabia.

No, this is too simplisitc and sweeping.

Sure, he is close to Saudia and Gulf countries but during his previous tenures relations were Iran were not any more strained than they were during PPP's last stint.

It's still to be seen how he manages the gas pipeline project.

Anyway gotta go no. will post more later

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^ All I can say is that all of us the Shia in Pakistan should hurry and buy themselves body armor, each with a level V plate in the back especially since the cowards always attack from the back. And especially if you are educated or a professional because these are higher priority targets albeit now with terrorists in power they will aim for big things. The Ahl al-bayt (as) foretold us about all these oppressions before the reappearance so chop chop good friends. Before body armor prices climb through the roof.

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Marbles, so it is safe to assume Mian sahab will be the new premier. Can you comment on what would be his main economic policies, anti terror/Taliban strategy, and overall policy theme? Thanks.

Nawaz Sharif will be sworn in as new prime minister. This is official now.

Economy: The biggest and immediate problem is to tackle energy crises that has crippled the economy. Without it no one can hope to push things in the right direction. He will need to develop a two-fold strategy. 1) Short term efforts to reduce the electricity deficit and supply continuous power to industry (which he'll definitely do). 2) Long term investment to develop power generation capacity.

This is the real trick. If he spends too much on the long term development and ignores short term relief, he will become unpopular with average John and may lose the next election. If he spends too much on short term energy production but ignores long term development, the fruits of his endeavors might be claimed by the next government if he fails to gets reelected next time.

Natural gas shortage is a big problem. PPP kick-started the Iran gas pipeline despite great pressure from the US and the West. Now, it's to be seen how Nawaz deals with this. That will also inform us of what sort of relationship he'd like to keep with the United States this time. Previously, despite being right wing pro-Taliban, he'd been known to be a "personal friend" to Bill Clinton when those two were in power back then. He's still seen as pragmatist and not an ideologue.

He is pro business/capitalist (as all right leaning Islamist parties are) so we can expect lucrative deals to attract FDI.

Anti-terrorism: This is the real game changer. His party has been close to the Taliban during their heyday. This party has also allied itself with Islamist/sectarian parties for the purpose of winning ballots. In fact, his party originated under the shadow of Zia-ul-Haq's "Jihad" in Afghanistan. In the past when N-League didn't hold any water, a lot of their policies such as pro-militancy etc were dictated by the establishment. This is no longer the case.

Despite this, the party is nominally secular and you'll find Sunnis, Wahhabis, Shias, Christians etc in it. (Yesterday. two influential Shia politicians from near my constituency contested and won both seats from N-League's tickets). Now, what you're going to read is important.

There is a real possibility of Nawaz steering his party policy away from pro-right wing, pro-Jihad framework. He has said so explicitly that if he comes to power he will have a complete overhaul of Pakistan's security policy. That is to say he will no longer support militant Jihadist activity to foment trouble in neighbouring countries and internally.

He also said that he will order an inquiry into finding out whether or not Pakistani agencies or its officials played a role in Mumbai 2008 attacks. These are bold, unprecedented statements coming from a person whose previous image was that of a conservative, right wing and pro-militant. This would be a welcomed news for Pakistani liberals, left wingers, minorities including Shias and the international community including the United States.

The good thing is that N-League is no longer in bed with the establishment. The party that was created and nurtured and used to help the military establishment currently is the most anti-establishment party. Call it evolution of the party and of Pakistani politics.

In the past during their first stint, they did try to take out the militant hideouts in Punjab, having arrested and killed a few of jihadist-sectarian killers in police encounters. But military establishment threatened the Sharifs with consequences because the former did not want to break up those networks as they (the jihadist militants) were at the time serving in Afghanistan and Kashmir as mercenaries in the pay of Pakistan's military.

This is complex, I know.

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For PTI voters and all others.

I and my uncle went to congratulate ex-foreign minister and PTI stalwart Shah Mehmood Qureshi at his residence over lunch this afternoon on winning. He was quite satisfied with PTI's performance and said that the results just about met PTI's expectations.

He said their internal estimate was 50-60 National Assembly seats. He said PTI had no illusions of sweeping the elections and forming a government because of lack of good candidates and shortcomings in the PTI campaign.

The results, he said, aren't surprising for Khan sahab too.

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People like Nawaz Sharif don't get assasinated yet the better ones do. It goes to show that Nawaz Sharif got benazir murdered. Why arent the terrorists attacking Nawaz Sharif?

^ A better, similar and related question is; Why the Raiwind Tablighi Ijtemah that happens every three months with at least 3 million mulvana sahibs from all over the country attending it never had a bomb blast.

The mulvanas claim its due to "God's special favor" on "the Muslims" there. :P

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^ A better, similar and related question is; Why the Raiwind Tablighi Ijtemah that happens every three months with at least 3 million mulvana sahibs from all over the country attending it never had a bomb blast.

The mulvanas claim its due to "God's special favor" on "the Muslims" there. :P

Suspicious. Isn't it??? :P

Edited by Wind Chimes

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^ A better, similar and related question is; Why the Raiwind Tablighi Ijtemah that happens every three months with at least 3 million mulvana sahibs from all over the country attending it never had a bomb blast.

The mulvanas claim its due to "God's special favor" on "the Muslims" there. :P

Tableeghi Jamat is Deobandi. Those who are bombing others are also Deobandis. The former are apolitical; the latter is not.

Deobandis don't bomb their own kind yet intra-Deobandi feuds have resulted in rare violence like in Quetta. http://criticalppp.com/archives/79792

Deobandis have, however, bombed many Sunni Barelvi and Sunni Sufi congregations and mosques and continue to do so.

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The necessary stepping stones to bring about "democracy" and implement the will of the "people":

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(Piles of torn votes that were casted in favor of PTI.)

There is so much more, but I don't see why anyone should really bother sharing such things amongst other slaves of the system living anywhere in this world, who will shrug, find an excuse to believe in to go to sleep at night, and accept it as normal and acceptable.

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Fazalul Rehman has announced to join forces with PML-N and form government. Mubarak ho logon Pakistan ka phr kabara honai wala hai.

No, what he said is that JUI-F (Fazlu's party) can team up with N-League and Sherpao group and form a coalition in KPK. He didn't say that for national government.

Now this bearded clown should know that PTI won the most seats in KPK but not enough to form majority government. So by law and basic decency they (the PTI) should be asked to form a coalition with the runner up party. You can't act like a total clown and gather smaller parties at number 3, 4 and 5 to form a government and kick out the top party. This is basic decency.

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