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Is the war on Syria is the war on Islam as the Syrian Mufti stated a few months ago? It is a war waged by the most brutal-backward, fanatic-terrorist groups on the planet. And the danger is doubled when western-hypocrites are aiding and arming Alqaida and Muslim Brotherhood Jihadists.

Therefore, at the moment the war on Syria is more important than the war on Iran

The war on Syria is more important than the (2006) war on Lebanon

The war on Syria is more important than the Alqaida/Baathist war on Iraq

We all should pray for the fall of Saudi-Salafi backed terrorist groups in Syria.. with Assad or without Assad, that is not important. And hope the groups and governments with power in Iran-Iraq-Lebanon extend and expand their aids to the Syrians to defeat the Takfiris.

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A very good news today was reported by Zionist backed Alarabiya!

Syrian army seizes strategic town near capital

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Syrian forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad seized a strategic town east of Damascus on Wednesday, breaking a critical weapons supply route for the rebels, activists and fighters said.

Rebels have held several suburbs ringing the southern and eastern parts Damascus for months, but they have been struggling to maintain their positions against a ground offensive backed by fierce army shelling and air strikes in recent weeks.

“The disaster has struck, the army entered Otaiba. The regime has managed to turn off the weapons tap,” a fighter from the town told Reuters via Skype.

“The price of a bullet will go from 50 Syrian pounds to 1, 000 Syrian pounds ($10) now, but we must pay and retake it. It's the main if not the only route.”

Rebels said they pulled out of Otaiba, a gateway to the eastern rural suburbs of Damascus known as al-Ghouta, in the early hours after more than 37 days of fighting in which they accused the government of using chemical weapons against them twice. The government has denied using chemical weapons and accused rebels in turn of firing them in Aleppo.

Rebels used Otaiba for eight months as their main supply route to Damascus for weapons brought in from the Jordanian border, where Saudi Arabia and other private donors are believed to be sending in arms. Government forces pushed in with tanks and soldiers.

“Now all the villages will start falling one after another [inshallah], the battle in Eastern Ghouta will be a war of attrition,” another fighter in the area said, speaking by Skype.

More than two years into their struggle to end four decades of Assad family rule, the rebels remain divided by struggles over ideology and fighting for power. [hypocrites, what happened to your revolution and democracy claims?]

Rebels fighting in Otaiba said they sent a distress call to brigades in other parts of Ghouta but it went unanswered by other units with whom they compete for influence and weapons.

“To all mujahedeen (holy warriors): If Otaiba falls, the whole of Eastern Ghouta will fall ... come and help,” part of the message sent to fighters said.

The army appears to have been advancing on fronts across Syria in recent weeks, even in northern provinces where rebels seized large swathes of territory.

Alarabiya

  • Basic Members
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I support Bashar al Assad's war on the forgien backed jihadis coming and bringing destruction to Syria and partially Lebanon. May Assad and the beautiful Syrian people destroy this fith who bring death, fitna and intolerance to the land. People like Saddam Hussien, Hafez Al Assad, and others warned the Muslim world about these groups like Al Qaida, Muslim Brotherhood, Jamaah Islamiyah etc. This is why secular Arab governments cracked down so hard on these people. I may not agree with all of there methods but, its to protect all of the citzens in the muslim world. islam protects its minorities and sadly the salafist groups tend to forget that.

  • Veteran Member
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People like Saddam Hussien, Hafez Al Assad, and others warned the Muslim world about these groups like Al Qaida, Muslim Brotherhood, Jamaah Islamiyah etc. This is why secular Arab governments cracked down so hard on these people. I may not agree with all of there methods but, its to protect all of the citzens in the muslim world. islam protects its minorities and sadly the salafist groups tend to forget that.

I don't know what the heck are you talking about? Saddam was the biggest criminal on the planet, and secular Arabs are as bad as AQ and MB and etc.. the difference between Assad and Saddam and other puppets is that Assad has been protecting the region from the Zionists, while Saddam and other secular/Sunni-religious Arabs are selling the region to the Zionists. Do not mix Salafi Islam, every country and every issue... clearly Assad is not what other dictators or Zionist puppets are.

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snapback.pngshiasoldier85, on 24 April 2013 - 08:08 PM, said:

People like Saddam Hussien, Hafez Al Assad, and others warned the Muslim world about these groups like Al Qaida, Muslim Brotherhood, Jamaah Islamiyah etc. This is why secular Arab governments cracked down so hard on these people. I may not agree with all of there methods but, its to protect all of the citzens in the muslim world. islam protects its minorities and sadly the salafist groups tend to forget that.

I don't know what the heck are you talking about? Saddam was the biggest criminal on the planet, and secular Arabs are as bad as AQ and MB and etc.. the difference between Assad and Saddam and other puppets is that Assad has been protecting the region from the Zionists, while Saddam and other secular/Sunni-religious Arabs are selling the region to the Zionists. Do not mix Salafi Islam, every country and every issue... clearly Assad is not what other dictators or Zionist puppets are.

@Noah, is this a fact that Assad is a protector and not a soldout or is this your statement of the meaning of his father's name, Hafiz al-Assad, ie the protector, the lion?

Now, Gaddafi was also not a soldout. He was probably the most consistent anti-imperialist, to the point of what others would called being a clown. Hafiz al-Assad was a lot more brutal than Gaddafi, but without oil revenues. Why do you oppose and condemned Gaddafi when you support al-Assad? And, when Gaddafi's son would have inherited, they might have been as benign as Bashar.

In the case of Libya, Russia was not able to veto the no-fly zone.

In the case of Assad, he wears a suit with a tie (a sign of slavery) to the russians, while Gaddafi would wear all kinds of clothes and the media would portray him as a clown.

Gaddafi cowardly surrendered all the centrifuge samples and the gas cylinder. Syria was bombed by Israel and declared that it was a nuclear site. So the differences between the two are very thin in the narratives and facts. Why did we not protect and support Libya?

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@Noah, is this a fact that Assad is a protector and not a soldout or is this your statement of the meaning of his father's name, Hafiz al-Assad, ie the protector, the lion?

Your point is not taken. I dont know what you are trying to say! Could you rephrase your statement!?!

Now, Gaddafi was also not a soldout. He was probably the most consistent anti-imperialist, to the point of what others would called being a clown. Hafiz al-Assad was a lot more brutal than Gaddafi, but without oil revenues. Why do you oppose and condemned Gaddafi when you support al-Assad? And, when Gaddafi's son would have inherited, they might have been as benign as Bashar.

In the case of Libya, Russia was not able to veto the no-fly zone.

In the case of Assad, he wears a suit with a tie (a sign of slavery) to the russians, while Gaddafi would wear all kinds of clothes and the media would portray him as a clown.

Gaddafi cowardly surrendered all the centrifuge samples and the gas cylinder. Syria was bombed by Israel and declared that it was a nuclear site. So the differences between the two are very thin in the narratives and facts. Why did we not protect and support Libya?

I never agreed with NATO and Takfiris operation in Libya to kick-out Gaddafi and install a puppet Salafi/Ikhwani government. Gaddafi was much better than what is given to the people of Libya by the Zionists and their puppet Wahabi Gulf-states.. Now Libya is in a big mess (if you knew anything about the current situation of the country).

And 'Assad wears suit/tie and it is a sign of slavery? You need to think and discuss as an adult, if you want me to reply to you again. Thanks

  • Advanced Member
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Syria will never be the way it was under Assad before the revolution. At best Assad will keep control of the parts of the country he has now, and be in a much much weaker position than he was 2 years ago.

  • Veteran Member
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^Of course it is not going to be the same... it is going to be much better for Syria and its allies, where hundreds of thousands of monafiqeen either killed, or runaway from the country...

Syria will be a turning point against Salafi-domination.. it is going to be very different from now on.

At first the events in Syria disturbed me, now I believe it is all for greater good.

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You should not be disturbed by the events in Syria, they are defiantly a good news. A lot of masks fell, and things became much clearer for everyone.

Thinking the situation will be better for Iran/hizb and their allies are just hopes and dreams, and days will confirm this.

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You should not be disturbed by the events in Syria, they are defiantly a good news. A lot of masks fell, and things became much clearer for everyone.

Thinking the situation will be better for Iran/hizb and their allies are just hopes and dreams, and days will confirm this.

Yes, the masks belonging to Saudi-Zionists fell with a bunch of sellouts running and turning against the region and begging for NATO intervention... while elsewhere complaing about them.

We'll see what is going to be better to what party, time will tell!

  • Veteran Member
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Is the war on Syria

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A very good news today was reported by Zionist backed Alarabiya!

Syrian army seizes strategic town near capital

tahmasebi20130227232821830.jpg

Syrian forces loyal to President Bashar al-Assad seized a strategic town east of Damascus on Wednesday, breaking a critical weapons supply route for the rebels, activists and fighters said.

(salam) This looks like a publicity photo. Look how clean the trucks are.

  • Advanced Member
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Yes, the masks belonging to Saudi-Zionists fell with a bunch of sellouts running and turning against the region and begging for NATO intervention... while elsewhere complaing about them.

We'll see what is going to be better to what party, time will tell!

The masks of Iran and Hizballah, and their claims of unity and "resistance". Now, they both lost popularity among the Sunni, before they, especially in 2006 they were popular.

I am glad to see the tens of billions of dollars Iran spent on Hamas and other agents throughout the Arab world to gain popularity disappear. Even Hamas has desserted them.

I guess when Ayatollah Khamenie said it will be an "Islamic" Arab Spring he didn't realize ti will be an Islamic Sunni one.

  • Veteran Member
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The masks of Iran and Hizballah, and their claims of unity and "resistance". Now, they both lost popularity among the Sunni, before they, especially in 2006 they were popular.

I am glad to see the tens of billions of dollars Iran spent on Hamas and other agents throughout the Arab world to gain popularity disappear. Even Hamas has desserted them.

I guess when Ayatollah Khamenie said it will be an "Islamic" Arab Spring he didn't realize ti will be an Islamic Sunni one.

S…rew the Sunni world all together with its popularity nonsense... being popular amongst Sunnis never benefited us in any way...not a single Shia community ever had any gain with the so called popularity amongst Sunnis..

I am so glad that the Takfiris in Palestine exposed themselves... because even 5-6 years ago I personally came to conclusion that all the Sunni political movements including Hamas are sellouts and a bunch of puppets... As you said it was all waste of money and waste of time to express sympathy to a bunch of Muhawiya followers, Shia haters and a bunch of losers who never understand what is good or bad for them!

What Sunnis ever did anything good for Sunnis that we Shias are left behind? The Sunni world has been in a mess for centuries!!! especially in modern times you have nothing, but eating each other alive!

NOW, the result is VERY GOOD and interesting. WE WANT A SHIA PROJECT, not a Muslim project to include (sectarian Sunnis) and waste resources and take sides clashing even with world powers over these coward Sunni groups... WE want a Shia influenced Syria, Iraq, Gulf, Yemen, and many more states... instead of spending on Takfiris, now Iran will have no choice, but to empower Shia groups, and come up with groups such as Hizbullah in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and other states, instead of counting on Nasibies...!

Palestine/Quds is your problem, not ours... and I hope any Shia leader in Iran or elsewhere who keeps repeating this garbage Palestinian cause is assassinated or removed out of power by some hardcore Shias!

  • Veteran Member
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The masks of Iran and Hizballah, and their claims of unity and "resistance". Now, they both lost popularity among the Sunni, before they, especially in 2006 they were popular.

I am glad to see the tens of billions of dollars Iran spent on Hamas and other agents throughout the Arab world to gain popularity disappear. Even Hamas has desserted them.

I guess when Ayatollah Khamenie said it will be an "Islamic" Arab Spring he didn't realize ti will be an Islamic Sunni one.

If you think the resistance is doing all this for popularity then that shows your blind hatred and lack of understanding in politicts. Also what arab sunni spring are you talking about egypt, Libya, yemen, iraq, tunis, etc are all in a crisis . Once you wake up from your dreams and come back to reality you will see the syrian crisis over and Islamic republic of Iran and HizbAllah victorious once again. Your just mad that hizbAllah is undefeated and the only one on earth to ever defeat Israel. Anyone who speaks ill about hizbAllah is either ignorent, coward, jealous, traitor, Zionists or all of the above.

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To me Zionism, Salafis and there mindless Sunni sheep along constant American intervention and ignorance is the reason for terrorism. And again I'll make the same statement again. Saddam, Hafez Al Assad and all the other secular Arab governmensand leaders warned of of tbe groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and the jihadi groups. And they felt the full force of there against the citzens of the countries. Yeah Saddam killed a lot of people, so what they were far better off then now with all the Sunni vs. Shia violence and killing Christians. To me that will never be right killing based on religion. And thats what these Salafi groups want. The West backs them up too they all want Muslims killing Muslims and then Muslims killing everyone else. The region needs strong rulers like Bashar Al Assadas for Saddam I don't care what people say about him he ruled a land where its kill or be killed you live by tribal law and Islam and you let no one destroy your country be it though sectrainism or outside influence. This terrorist are mence and I have no simpathy for what happens to them by the boot of the Syrian government. These Salafi/Jihadist are savages period. Any Muslim would agree. Personally don't see how these salafist get Islam so messed up. There is plenty of right information out there on Islam and Sharia law expecially on Jihad and womens rights.

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S…rew the Sunni world all together with its popularity nonsense... being popular amongst Sunnis never benefited us in any way...not a single Shia community ever had any gain with the so called popularity amongst Sunnis..

I am so glad that the Takfiris in Palestine exposed themselves... because even 5-6 years ago I personally came to conclusion that all the Sunni political movements including Hamas are sellouts and a bunch of puppets... As you said it was all waste of money and waste of time to express sympathy to a bunch of Muhawiya followers, Shia haters and a bunch of losers who never understand what is good or bad for them!

What Sunnis ever did anything good for Sunnis that we Shias are left behind? The Sunni world has been in a mess for centuries!!! especially in modern times you have nothing, but eating each other alive!

NOW, the result is VERY GOOD and interesting. WE WANT A SHIA PROJECT, not a Muslim project to include (sectarian Sunnis) and waste resources and take sides clashing even with world powers over these coward Sunni groups... WE want a Shia influenced Syria, Iraq, Gulf, Yemen, and many more states... instead of spending on Takfiris, now Iran will have no choice, but to empower Shia groups, and come up with groups such as Hizbullah in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and other states, instead of counting on Nasibies...!

Palestine/Quds is your problem, not ours... and I hope any Shia leader in Iran or elsewhere who keeps repeating this garbage Palestinian cause is assassinated or removed out of power by some hardcore Shias!

I agree with you on many things.

Iran is giving a lot of its many to groups that hate it, and continues to do so, while its people starve due to the sanctions.

Hizb can't stop talking about Quds, and it is trying to maintain its popularity. If you don't need such popularity, I don't know why your leaders spent billions on it, can't they think? Anyhow, I am glad it is lost.

Quds is our problem. You have Karbala, Najf and Qom, and we have the three mosques.

I don't see Iran anytime soon cutting funds, maybe now that it lacks the money it had.

But soon enough, we will see how this Syria crisis unfold. One thing is for sure, Iran, Hizb and the Syrian regime are much weaker today than they were at the begining of this conflict. Sanctions, and such conflicts will weaken Iran.

If you really think Shias in the gulf that barely make up 10% of the population can rule the region, you are dreaming.

Anyhow, as you said it, you have your project and we have ours.

If you think the resistance is doing all this for popularity then that shows your blind hatred and lack of understanding in politicts. Also what arab sunni spring are you talking about egypt, Libya, yemen, iraq, tunis, etc are all in a crisis . Once you wake up from your dreams and come back to reality you will see the syrian crisis over and Islamic republic of Iran and HizbAllah victorious once again. Your just mad that hizbAllah is undefeated and the only one on earth to ever defeat Israel. Anyone who speaks ill about hizbAllah is either ignorent, coward, jealous, traitor, Zionists or all of the above.

Sure everyone except hizb and Iran are zionists.

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I agree with you on many things.

Iran is giving a lot of its many to groups that hate it, and continues to do so, while its people starve due to the sanctions.

Hizb can't stop talking about Quds, and it is trying to maintain its popularity. If you don't need such popularity, I don't know why your leaders spent billions on it, can't they think? Anyhow, I am glad it is lost.

Quds is our problem. You have Karbala, Najf and Qom, and we have the three mosques.

I don't see Iran anytime soon cutting funds, maybe now that it lacks the money it had.

But soon enough, we will see how this Syria crisis unfold. One thing is for sure, Iran, Hizb and the Syrian regime are much weaker today than they were at the begining of this conflict. Sanctions, and such conflicts will weaken Iran.

If you really think Shias in the gulf that barely make up 10% of the population can rule the region, you are dreaming.

Anyhow, as you said it, you have your project and we have ours.

Sure everyone except hizb and Iran are zionists.

Their not doing it for popularity but because they belive its a religous duty. And not everyone but the majority are.

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I agree with you on many things.

Iran is giving a lot of its many to groups that hate it, and continues to do so, while its people starve due to the sanctions.

Hizb can't stop talking about Quds, and it is trying to maintain its popularity. If you don't need such popularity, I don't know why your leaders spent billions on it, can't they think? Anyhow, I am glad it is lost.

Quds is our problem. You have Karbala, Najf and Qom, and we have the three mosques.

I don't see Iran anytime soon cutting funds, maybe now that it lacks the money it had.

But soon enough, we will see how this Syria crisis unfold. One thing is for sure, Iran, Hizb and the Syrian regime are much weaker today than they were at the begining of this conflict. Sanctions, and such conflicts will weaken Iran.

If you really think Shias in the gulf that barely make up 10% of the population can rule the region, you are dreaming.

Anyhow, as you said it, you have your project and we have ours.

Dreaming is always good... you dream in Khelafa in Syria & Palestine as well...

And btw: Hizb has no choice but to cut its ties with Palestinian groups and stop Quds chants..... it is either/or! Enough is enough!

No, you don't have any project... Show me any solid project except 'Wahabi project' ran by Saudi backed by the Zionist states to destroy Muslim countries in general from Afg-Pak to Syria to Libya! Sunnis are failed and there is no such front to have a project for/by... There is nothing being done to serve Sunnism or Sunni cause... If Britain or the US or some other powers implement an agenda, then Saudi (head of the Sunni world) or Turkey (and nowadays Qatar) or the ISI in Pakistan or Ikhwan/Salafi/Alqaida or likes of these puppets come to the front to fight, or do the politics for those who are behind them.

Shias led by Iran been playing a major role in serving their sects and/or serving the region without any influence from the west or the Zionists!!! And I am sure you know the difference in the projects very well... but bindly want to defend ur Sunnis and accuse Shias equally!

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Dreaming is always good... you dream in Khelafa in Syria & Palestine as well...

And btw: Hizb has no choice but to cut its ties with Palestinian groups and stop Quds chants..... it is either/or! Enough is enough!

No, you don't have any project... Show me any solid project except 'Wahabi project' ran by Saudi backed by the Zionist states to destroy Muslim countries in general from Afg-Pak to Syria to Libya! Sunnis are failed and there is no such front to have a project for/by... There is nothing being done to serve Sunnism or Sunni cause... If Britain or the US or some other powers implement an agenda, then Saudi (head of the Sunni world) or Turkey (and nowadays Qatar) or the ISI in Pakistan or Ikhwan/Salafi/Alqaida or likes of these puppets come to the front to fight, or do the politics for those who are behind them.

Shias led by Iran been playing a major role in serving their sects and/or serving the region without any influence from the west or the Zionists!!! And I am sure you know the difference in the projects very well... but bindly want to defend ur Sunnis and accuse Shias equally!

I know the differences very well.

Hizb has a choice, and lately they have been making the wrong strategic decisions, which will affect them in the future.

Don't give me the zionists chant, it is really overused.

Your only Shia power is getting weaker, Iran is struggling due to internal sources and external ones.

The sanctions, are a problem, but they are not the biggest one. The increase in corruption, and internal splits between political groups in Iran is not very good for the country at all.

The president is accusing the head of parliament of corruption and vice-versa. Internal splits has deepend, and they will affect the country negatively in the future. The Syrian revolution is the first nail in your project's casket.

I don't dream in Khalafa. What I dream of is in effective democracy and development plans in the Arab Spring countries in specific. I don't want them to be like Iran where its citizens are starving and billions are being given to its enemies.

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I know the differences very well.

Hizb has a choice, and lately they have been making the wrong strategic decisions, which will affect them in the future.

Don't give me the zionists chant, it is really overused.

Your only Shia power is getting weaker, Iran is struggling due to internal sources and external ones.

The sanctions, are a problem, but they are not the biggest one. The increase in corruption, and internal splits between political groups in Iran is not very good for the country at all.

The president is accusing the head of parliament of corruption and vice-versa. Internal splits has deepend, and they will affect the country negatively in the future. The Syrian revolution is the first nail in your project's casket.

I don't dream in Khalafa. What I dream of is in effective democracy and development plans in the Arab Spring countries in specific. I don't want them to be like Iran where its citizens are starving and billions are being given to its enemies.

Hizb made many wrong choices to go along with Sunni and Palestinian groups. That is what I think was wrong. Now it needs to wake up and face the reality that it always been a Rafidhi group in the eyes of the haters and all were jealous of its progress. We are not one Ummah and we never been one Ummah!

The Zionist chant is old for you because you are so used to it, that is why! Not a single Sunni country can live without their blessing, it is part of your life now.

Iran always been struggling, Iran has been under attacks, sanctions and trouble makers from the within are emerging since the revolution days... this is not something new.

And of course not, no Arab country or so called Spring going towards windy winter will ever become like Iranian revolution. I hope not. Libya is gone, it is 100 times worse than it was under so called dictator-Gaddafi. Egypt is counting its days before the civil war and group fightins hits it...there was no achievement in Egypt at all, Mubarak is gone, another puppet is taken control. Tunisia, the so called Sunni groups already lossed and the government is changed 3 times already with killing and backlash agains tthe so called revolution...

Rule number one is that a revolutionary country CANNOT become puppet the next day! NATO went to enter Libya to bring revolution for you and that is a big shame for you, and Qatar funded the entire drama in Egypt, while Saudi-Turkey-Qatar and western states including your own enemy-Israel are sponsoring the war in Syria for you! With Ikhwan, Alqaida, terrorist networks, and Salafis activated in every single country and taking charge.... You Tell Me, Arab Spring, Effective Democracy and Development Plans? Joke of the century!

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Hizb made many wrong choices to go along with Sunni and Palestinian groups. That is what I think was wrong. Now it needs to wake up and face the reality that it always been a Rafidhi group in the eyes of the haters and all were jealous of its progress. We are not one Ummah and we never been one Ummah!

The Zionist chant is old for you because you are so used to it, that is why! Not a single Sunni country can live without their blessing, it is part of your life now.

Iran always been struggling, Iran has been under attacks, sanctions and trouble makers from the within are emerging since the revolution days... this is not something new.

And of course not, no Arab country or so called Spring going towards windy winter will ever become like Iranian revolution. I hope not. Libya is gone, it is 100 times worse than it was under so called dictator-Gaddafi. Egypt is counting its days before the civil war and group fightins hits it...there was no achievement in Egypt at all, Mubarak is gone, another puppet is taken control. Tunisia, the so called Sunni groups already lossed and the government is changed 3 times already with killing and backlash agains tthe so called revolution...

Rule number one is that a revolutionary country CANNOT become puppet the next day! NATO went to enter Libya to bring revolution for you and that is a big shame for you, and Qatar funded the entire drama in Egypt, while Saudi-Turkey-Qatar and western states including your own enemy-Israel are sponsoring the war in Syria for you! With Ikhwan, Alqaida, terrorist networks, and Salafis activated in every single country and taking charge.... You Tell Me, Arab Spring, Effective Democracy and Development Plans? Joke of the century!

It is old because conspiracy theorist have bugged us with it.

You are right we have never been one Ummah.

Anyhow if you think Iran is going through the same things as it did before, you are mistaken.

Change is happening there, you can choose to blind yourself to it, but soon enough you will see it.

Let's just end this nice discussion. I truly enjoyed it.

Only days will tell us what is ahead.

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It is old because conspiracy theorist have bugged us with it.

You are right we have never been one Ummah.

Anyhow if you think Iran is going through the same things as it did before, you are mistaken.

Change is happening there, you can choose to blind yourself to it, but soon enough you will see it.

Let's just end this nice discussion. I truly enjoyed it.

Only days will tell us what is ahead.

Well, there is nothing to suggest that for example Qatar or Saudi or Egypt or Turkey, and lets not forget Pakistan/Gulf states, or other Sunni states are not puppet states but it is a ran by 'conspiracy theorists' as you try to claim. It is a FACT. Many Sunnis including those whom I know from the media or in person, all agree on this. If you want to say no it is a theory, then nothing will be explained to you with reasons.

Iran has been changing since the revolution, the country never been the same from one year to the next year... it always had its ups and downs. The worst years that Iran had was during the war with Iraq where the entire west, including the USSR sided with Saddam and Iran with limited weapons and poor economy had to face all those challenges. I don't think Iran ever been that weak or will ever get that weak again that was during that war!

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The war years were bad on the people not on the regime. The regime was able to eliminate all of its opposition during the war.

The US, Israel and USSR sold weapons to Iran. Syria has also helped Iran immensely in that war.

Now, Iran is poorer than ever, with a large youth population. Every month thousands enter the job market coming out of university/schools. But the economy is losing jobs every month, not gaining them.

Having an external enemy is much easier than having internal fraction and unrest.

You can easily see how Iranian politics is becoming more and more fragmented, when the president and the head of parliament accuse each other of being corrupt. Poverty is at it highest levels in Iran, as well as corruption.

The next decade is very decisive for the Middle-East.

  • Veteran Member
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The war years were bad on the people not on the regime. The regime was able to eliminate all of its opposition during the war.

The US, Israel and USSR sold weapons to Iran. Syria has also helped Iran immensely in that war.

Now, Iran is poorer than ever, with a large youth population. Every month thousands enter the job market coming out of university/schools. But the economy is losing jobs every month, not gaining them.

Having an external enemy is much easier than having internal fraction and unrest.

You can easily see how Iranian politics is becoming more and more fragmented, when the president and the head of parliament accuse each other of being corrupt. Poverty is at it highest levels in Iran, as well as corruption.

The next decade is very decisive for the Middle-East.

Well, I don't think you know much about the times of wars...and the problems Iran had to face.... You are refering to the propaganda reports such as Iran eliminated its oppositions, Iran bought weapons from Israel, and etc... These are not facts, just part of political propaganda against any regime! Iran had problems more than ever and more than the present times, that is a fact..

What Iranian president or the speaker are saying are also part of internal propaganda.... these things happen in every country in order to maintain a control on majority of the populaton... same stuffs happen all the time in the US with Dems and Repubs playing and throwing accusations in public...

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Well, I don't think you know much about the times of wars...and the problems Iran had to face.... You are refering to the propaganda reports such as Iran eliminated its oppositions, Iran bought weapons from Israel, and etc... These are not facts, just part of political propaganda against any regime! Iran had problems more than ever and more than the present times, that is a fact..

What Iranian president or the speaker are saying are also part of internal propaganda.... these things happen in every country in order to maintain a control on majority of the populaton... same stuffs happen all the time in the US with Dems and Repubs playing and throwing accusations in public...

So Iranian politicians are just as corrupt and are propaganda makers as American ones?

That is bad news.

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So Iranian politicians are just as corrupt and are propaganda makers as American ones?

That is bad news.

It is not always about corruption, it has to be done sometimes to maintain country's unity and to scan and look-out for the trouble makers...especially in countries like Iran who has been the target of many different countries and groups.

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It is not always about corruption, it has to be done sometimes to maintain country's unity and to scan and look-out for the trouble makers...especially in countries like Iran who has been the target of many different countries and groups.

Look at Iranian media in recent years, such splits are getting deeper and deeper, and the economy keeps getting worst.

The extent of the political split in Iran is much larger than the average country. It is true that the power is all with the supreme leader. So, such fighting will not be very destructive. But, it is a symptom of a deep split within the Irania society. Especially the conservative, that are loyal to the regime, which the president, speaker of the house and other top politicians represent.

This is not to ignore that many scholars have repeatdly criticised Ahmadi Najad for his constant statements of being the government of Mahdi, and all that talk, which is upsetting a lot of conservative scholars.

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