Temp. Marriage

[Mateen-k]

Assalam Alaykum,

I'm having a bit of a issue when determining weather you need parent's premission to do Mutah with a virgin girl.

Some sources state that it not required; i.e. Fadlallah

http://english.bayynat.org.lb/QA/1a.htm#Conditions%20of%20temporary%20marriage

or here http://realtashayyu.blogspot.com.au/2011/06/woman-doing-mutah-without-fathers.html?m=1

and ayatollah sistani http://www.sistani.org/stating that we should probaby ask father's permission.

ws

[Mateen-k]

I don't want to fall under Zina if i do Mutah with the girl. So, someone please enlighten me on this issue!

[coffee.and.books]

Book: Islamic Laws, English Version of Taudhihul Masae'l

According to: The Fatawa of Ayatullah AL Uzama Syed Ali AL-Husaini Seestani

Rule: 2386 (Page 439)

In the following situations, it will not be necessary for a womean to seek the permission of her father or paternal grandfather, before getting married:

(i) If she is not a virgin.

(ii) If she is a virgin, but her father or paternal grandfather refuse to grant permission to her for marrying a man who is compatible to her in the eyes of Shariah, as well as custom.

(iii) If the father and the grandfather are not anyway willing to partcipate in the marriage.

(iv) If they are not in a capacity to give their consent, like in the case of mental illness, etc.

(v) If it is not possible to obtain their permisssion because of their absence, or such other reasons, and the woman is eager to get married urgently.

I would personally not reccommed it:

Imagine this scenario,

A man comes to ask for her hand later on in life, his Mother takes her Mother aside and asks,

“Is she a virgin?”

The mother responds, “Yes, of course”

“All right, lets proceed..."

She would at some point – if she truly has love for Allah – will have to convey – either to her Mother – or to the man secretly – that she is not a virgin.

[Mateen-k]

Thank you.

ws

[Pedram]

don't rely on the fatwas of Fadullah

[coffee.and.books]

don't rely on the fatwas of Fadullah

Sadly, many people don't read his works, and thus he is highly misinterpreted.

Usually – the youth take advantage of any leniency he may have written – for sexual purposes only.

When asked, where did you read that? Or, have you read anything else of his work?

They cannot tell you: they’ve based their actions on hearsay and diffused their Islamic responsibilities on to him for their desires.

[kadhim]

^Yeah, I mean, just read the fine print on the Fadlallah link from above:

"It is allowed to conclude a temporary marriage with a virgin if she is an adult, since she has the right to wed herself without the permission of her guardian, but other considerations should be taken into account – like bad reputation the girl might acquire or that she might put herself in a dangerous situation, since it is illegal to endanger oneself in Islamic law even if it were in marriage."

[AlAbd AlThaleel]

Sayyed Muhammad Saeed al-Hakeem [ha]

Q [21] What women are permissible for Muta and does the woman require permission?

A: It is permissible to marry a virgin temporarily but it is unlawful to consummate the marriage without the permission of her father. If the woman lost her virginity by a religiously accepted marriage, then she is not required to seek the permission in order to consummate the marriage.

Source

(wasalam)

[Mateen-k]

Thanks all for clearing that up!

Permission it is! Hopefully this will finally clear this is up for anyone else that's looking into this matter.

[kadhim]

Thanks all for clearing that up!

Permission it is! Hopefully this will finally clear this is up for anyone else that's looking into this matter.

It's better that way. There's certainly, as I recall / understand it, textual basis for the notion that permission is not strictly required, but it is better.

[Pedram]

Sadly, many people don't read his works, and thus he is highly misinterpreted.

Usually – the youth take advantage of any leniency he may have written – for sexual purposes only.

When asked, where did you read that? Or, have you read anything else of his work?

They cannot tell you: they’ve based their actions on hearsay and diffused their Islamic responsibilities on to him for their desires.

Thats not my point sister

my point is about many of his fatwas which goes against the opinion of all other marjas

[aliasghark]

As someone shared in another thread recently, here's something to read to clear the rumors against Ayatullah Fadlallah: http://www.sheikhjehadismail.com/lies-targeting-grand-ayatollah-sayyed-fadlullah.html