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Saudis and Indians and Turks interfering in Pakistani ELECTIONS trying to get the candidates of their INTEREST to Pakistan.

Neither YANKS, Nor Saudi-YAZIDIS, Nor Hindu zionists want Imran Khan to win the elections.

http://www.zemtv.com/2013/04/03/to-the-point-shaikh-rasheed-ki-khari-baatein-3rd-april-2013/

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If I am correct, he actually hates shi3a and only condemned the killings as a tactical way to receive more votes.

http://www.guardian....ghanistan-islam

http://jafrianews.co...-karcahi-rally/

Having a guy like him will only encourage the further mistreatment of shia and also promote British, not American, not Turkish, not Saudi and not Indian interests but British interests throughout the region. The British may be allies with the others, however they have their own methods and own ideas on what they want from Pakistan.

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If I am correct, he actually hates shi3a and only condemned the killings as a tactical way to receive more votes.

http://www.guardian....ghanistan-islam

http://jafrianews.co...-karcahi-rally/

Having a guy like him will only encourage the further mistreatment of shia and also promote British, not American, not Turkish, not Saudi and not Indian interests but British interests throughout the region. The British may be allies with the others, however they have their own methods and own ideas on what they want from Pakistan.

I do not follow your logic at all.

The Taliban (Pashtun) are the soldiers of Imam Mahdi. They are in the Khorasan. They accepted Islam without a war - unlike persians.

You can see the validity in these links

http://en.wikipedia....is_Abdur_Rashid

In Afghan tradition, Qais was born in the Ghor region of Afghanistan. Upon hearing about the advent of Islam, his tribe sent him to Medina in Saudi Arabia. He met the Islamic prophet Muhammad and embraced Islam there, and was given the name Abdur Rashid by Muhammed. He then returned to the region of Afghanistan and introduced Islam to his tribe. In legend the famous military leader and companion of Muhammed, Khalid ibn al-Walid, introduced Qais Abdur Rashid to the Prophet.

The Afghan historians proceed to relate that the
, both in
and in
, preserved their knowledge of the unity of
and the purity of their religious belief, and that on the appearance of the last and greatest of the prophets (
) the Afghans of Ghore listened to the invitation of their
brethren, the chief of whom was
, so famous for his conquest of
, and marched to the aid of the true faith, under the command of Kyse, afterwards surnamed "Abdul Rasheed".

I do not knwo the validity of the material at this link

http://www.biblesear...sisrael10.shtml

here two more

http://pashtunhistor...08_archive.html

http://www.pakhtun.c...origins?start=1

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The most thorough research (with references or citations) appears to be on this page

http://www.biblesearchers.com/hebrewchurch/primitive/losttribesisrael10.shtml

I know in the zeal of fundamentalism and some closed minded thinking, they did wrong things like to the shia. But, you also have criminals in Iran and Pakistan. And Zardari, and MQM people are many of them shia. So, lets not use an exception to make a rule.

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Our heart and minds begin to ponder as we remember that the Israelite Pashtuns are prophetically destined by the God of Israel to become a military force that will cause the nations to stumble while at the same time contain the forces of evil. Are the “nations that stumble” the same nations the will bring the forces of evil? Are we seeing a role reversal, where the allied powers of the west that claim to bring peace and freedom with democracy will actually be the forces of the Anti-Messiah called in Islam as the Dajjal? According to the Islamic messianic imagery of the world at the time of the end, the forces of evil will come from those global powers that are seeking to take all free will and independence away from all mankind so that they can no longer worship the Monotheistic God of the Universes.

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^ As always, and as usual with this scam called 'democracy', and regardless of the country, of course only the one with the most money will win the elections.

Pure and simple.

All the outsiders have to do is fund their particular party.

PML-N = Party belonging to Saudi (and hence US / NATO / OPEC).

PPP = Party always entertains the highest bidder.

The rest are mere speculations of basically orphaned parties of the lesser crooks and bigshots.

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Imran Khan supports the Taliban and simply condemns them for Shi'a killing for sympathy. Zardari is much more corrupt, but at least it won't be a blood bath for Shi'as if he stays in power. The best choice would be General Parvez Muharraf who will straighten up those Taliban-Jhangvi scum and boot them out of Pakistani soil.

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Hell with the election I just want a power to be with someone who will/can stop this massacre and make it a nation of peace, musharraf was the best.

Isnt Musharaf candidacy rejected?

However, the former president’s electoral future appeared to be growing bleaker as, earlier on Friday, the returning officer in Kasur, an agricultural and industrial town in Punjab province, rejected his nomination papers for the elections.

A local lawyer, Javed Kasuri Advocate, had raised objections over the Musharraf’s candidacy for the NA-139 constituency, arguing that he does not qualify to contest elections under Article 62, 63 of the constitution.

The returning officer, Mohammad Saleem, accepted the objections and rejected the former dictator’s nomination paper.

Aasia Ishaque, information secretary for Musharraf’s All Pakistan Muslim League, said the ruling would be challenged.

Musharraf had filed papers to contest the general elections from four seats, including Karachi, Islamabad, Chitral and Kasur.

Meanwhile, a Supreme Court lawyer Barrister Zafarullah, on behalf of the Pakistan Muslim League – Nawaz (PML-N) leader Ahsan Iqbal, has filed an application before the Election Commission seeking disqualification of Musharraf.

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Didn't know that there's election in Pakistan.

When would the result be out? Any prediction whose going to be the next President?

Pakistan has parliamentary system so the party that wins most seats then selects the prime minister to the head the government, like in Britain.

So far as predictions go, two parties will do better than the others. PTI headed by Imran Khan and PML-N headed by Nawaz Sharif. PPP and both afore-mentioned parties will have enough votes divided between themselves to not let either party win outright.

It's going to be a hung parliament, a minority government that'd need a junior partner to get through the House, and hence a pretty inefficient one, just like the one (PPP) that completed it's tenure in mid-March.

Elections are scheduled to be held on 11th May. If they aren't delayed you can expect the results a couple of days after the ballot is cast.

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The best form of government [and ELECTION PROCEDURE] for Pakistan is that of the Islamic Republic of Iran with its built in Spiritual Blessings and the ability to deal with the enemies in a very sophisticated manner.

Army rule is what got us into the 9-11 falseflag trap.

The media of Pakistan with women without Purdah is fundamentally the enemy of the notion I am suggesting and the one which is fighting it quietly.

There is one journalist who is doing a good job but I wont reveal his name.

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Allah's LANAT has descending on Pakistan in the form of Saudi-American-British-Dubai meddling and protection to corrupt election figures and the آوارہ media.

This retired judge is CORRUPT JERK. The corrupt is the executive and the judge says that executive will catch corruption.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7myYN0EZrI&feature=player_embedded

After 9-11 the yank bustards with YAZEEDI Saudis are trying to sacrifice PAKISTAN,PALESTINE,IRAN,SYRIA at the ALTER of the ZIONIST STATE, so that muslim power is ENDED for EVER.

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A sad news has come to my attention. PML-N is going to win the elections. It didn't say if it will slither into federal govt, provincial or both. Higher echelon elites and beurocrates (sp?) and officials are already renewing their oaths of allegiance to the bald devils.

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these election will be a tough call.

pmln is going to get highest votes,then ppp and pti and then local political parties like mqm,anp etc

for those who want musharaff to win,i am sorry guys he is out of election and facing jail over treason charges.(btw do u guys know when zia ul haq sent lashkar e jhangvi workers from jhang to gilgit baltistan to massacre shia community for GB,Musharaff then was brigadier in special forces group and he was ordered to carry out operation)

these guys do not care about shias at all.they care about their motives.

i do not have any piece of hope in my heart that these election or 100 elections like that in pakistan can bring change we need.

if shias has anybody to protect them,its their Imam and themselves and NOBODY ELSE.

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If I am correct, he actually hates shi3a and only condemned the killings as a tactical way to receive more votes.

http://www.guardian....ghanistan-islam

http://jafrianews.co...-karcahi-rally/

Having a guy like him will only encourage the further mistreatment of shia and also promote British, not American, not Turkish, not Saudi and not Indian interests but British interests throughout the region. The British may be allies with the others, however they have their own methods and own ideas on what they want from Pakistan.

please dont make false accusation, your logic is the same as that of americans. Speak against Afghan War then you are a terrorist

The Guardian and Jafariannews are not reliable sources. One portrays all muslims as terrorist, another says Iran is the solution to every problem.

Mistreatment of shia ? shias of pakistan are citizens of pakistan and they want rule of law,economic prosperity and patriotic politicians like everyone else. Imran Khan has said nothing against shias, this grand conspiracy theory of a small rate power like the British promoting an agenda is a joke. IF the british do anything they do it with america not alone.

Imran Khan has struggled for past 13 years against fuedal and westernized corrupt political classes and is on the crisp of a revolution.

Imran Khan was asked didnt say Afghan war is jihad, he said situation in afghanistan is one where taliban are fighting foriegn occupiers, whilst taliban in pakistan are just savages and no link to afghan taliban.

Its america which has been trying to drag pakistan into its afghan war.

^ As always, and as usual with this scam called 'democracy', and regardless of the country, of course only the one with the most money will win the elections.

Pure and simple.

All the outsiders have to do is fund their particular party.

PML-N = Party belonging to Saudi (and hence US / NATO / OPEC).

PPP = Party always entertains the highest bidder.

The rest are mere speculations of basically orphaned parties of the lesser crooks and bigshots.

Democracy cant work with out proper campaign finance laws but its the best system and ensures against abuse of power and protects transparency.

PMLN and PPP are the same, the only difference is PMLN and PPP market themselves differently. One claims to be liberal the other conservative in reality both have same economic and foreign policy. Nawaz Sharif is not even that religious its all a drama he does to get votes. However, PPP still has some patriotic people in the party and the preferred option to PMLN

Imran Khan supports the Taliban and simply condemns them for Shi'a killing for sympathy. Zardari is much more corrupt, but at least it won't be a blood bath for Shi'as if he stays in power. The best choice would be General Parvez Muharraf who will straighten up those Taliban-Jhangvi scum and boot them out of Pakistani soil.

oh so IK supports the taliban? have you actually heard IKs world view ? its nothing like the taliban. Imran Khan is a sufi and not deobandi not that anything wrong with either sect. The taliban hate IK and call his policies agaisnt islam. If Imran Khan wants shia support ? so what ? would you rather he didnt try to get support of as many communities as possible ? Imran Khan has a clear policy of calling the taliban actions non muslim and he has an economic policy and education policy to take away the pull of the jihadi maddressas. Zardari may not hate shias, but his corruption and bad governance is killing shias and sunnis alike.

You cant defeat terrorist through military operations, this is something Imran Khan understands, and zardari is actually stupid and only knows how to play politics he has no vision for nation or policy to deal with taliban or save nation from bankruptcy

couldn't control my laughter after "Hindu Zionist"

its not so funny, once you research RSS and look at Indian-Isreali strategic alliance

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Imran Khan is not an extremist, PTIs number two is actually the grandson of a major sufi saint in multan. So their is no ideological hatred of shias. Pakistan is not the arab world, society is not split along sects. Imran Khan was the only politician to go see the hazaras, others were too busy being corrupt. some say he did it for sympathy, but who are you to second guess someones intentions ?

Didn't know that there's election in Pakistan.

When would the result be out? Any prediction whose going to be the next President?

The aim is for a hugo chavez style revolution through ballot box, but less socialist and more entrepreneur driven as pak doesnt have oil but has talented human capital.

these election will be a tough call.

pmln is going to get highest votes,then ppp and pti and then local political parties like mqm,anp etc

for those who want musharaff to win,i am sorry guys he is out of election and facing jail over treason charges.(btw do u guys know when zia ul haq sent lashkar e jhangvi workers from jhang to gilgit baltistan to massacre shia community for GB,Musharaff then was brigadier in special forces group and he was ordered to carry out operation)

these guys do not care about shias at all.they care about their motives.

i do not have any piece of hope in my heart that these election or 100 elections like that in pakistan can bring change we need.

if shias has anybody to protect them,its their Imam and themselves and NOBODY ELSE.

how will PMLN get votes when the entire of south punjab doesnt like Nawaz Sharif and many others people miss the days of PMLQ governance. PMLN has lost major support in urban areas to PTI, so very little chance of PMLN government.

Zia ul haw and musheraff are two different people and 20 years apart. Zia was a fundamentalism, musheraff promoted englinted moderation . Zia had a pathological hatred of Shias and locked up opposition. Musheraff is a patriot and liberalized the media ( too much in my opinion) . Why would special forces be sent to kill civilians ? why not use other units.

no one cares about shias, because politcians are suppose to look out for nations not sects.

Islam says you should organise and become united with each other, not sit around do nothing, denounce everyone else as a kaffir and say only the imam will help us, we dont want to shake hands of someone trying to offer a hand of friendship.

look how quickly fragmentation of politics along sectarians lines has occurred in some arab countries. Politics should be based on ideas about how you would reform public policy education,energy etc not about which community you would promote or represent

if one shias believes in higeher taxes and another in lower taxes, no reason why they should vote for 1 party

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you didnt get my point.

if you consider me close minded because i think as a shia.i do not care.

i know what are the problems a shia is facing in this country.

i hope you do know the statistics of shia killings in last 30 years or so.

you should also talk about residents of gilgit baltistan and ask them what happened then?

Musharraf was captain then,he was sent to carry out mission with the help of lashkar e jhangvi safely.

you points are legit.but in the society of pakistan,they are'nt.

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A sad news has come to my attention. PML-N is going to win the elections. It didn't say if it will slither into federal govt, provincial or both. Higher echelon elites and beurocrates (sp?) and officials are already renewing their oaths of allegiance to the bald devils.

I like none of the parties top candidates, although they are smart people and cleverly render services to a competent superior. The MQM, just nono, even though their stated principles are good, but their hearts were not accomodating to the host ethnicity, nor the host ethnicity was particularly morally superior to drive them towards it.

Imran khan, has short term benefit but long term issues as the story of Sita White is undeniable now and perhaps, thats why providence may not allow him to reach power while he is the party head.

Regarding Musharraf, all hinges on his past sins, what he really did and did not do. There are 3 major allegations on him, the 4th being that he did his U turn.

The Nawaz group had the stoning of the supreme court. His party does the politics of BIRADARI, where the main is the Kashmiri Biradari, who exploit the poor of punjab in doing for example, child labor to weave carpets. The few kashmiris I have seen over long periods seem to have serious moral shortcomings, one way or another and did not contribute much to the moral progress of punjab. It is possible the rotten apples have stronger odor over the good ones and get noticed more.

They all have ill-gotten money, except maybe Imran Khan.

The barelvis with TUQ, or some of the mohajjirs with banks,insurance companies,chartered accountants have suddenly grown rich. Many of these had mercedes cars even in the 80s in Pakistan.

I cannot just be shia centric, I have to look at the whole picture since we are affected by everyone in this global society now. For those of you who cited the atrocities done to shias, for example in Gilgit and others, I urge you to bring more details, so I can be convinced of them myself and understand that according to my pre-existing conception, otherwise, it is very hard to believe anything these days in this age of deception, lies and dajjal and WAHAN. You cannot change anyone's worldview without presenting evidence and not by force, censorship or such things.

Anyone knows, how Dr TUQ supports his living style? what is his actual source of income?

Essentially TUQ asked IK to hand over his party to him during that demonstration and take a junior position. What I ask one of you in this forum is to establish yourselves and your knowledge and so we can give you our trust more easily, or have a reliable characterization of you. I have given it up for myself due to the frequent account cancellations here. But to function in an electronic society, we need reliable characterization of people as in the real world observations. Otherwise, no one trusts anyone, and no meaningful progress comes about.

you didnt get my point.

if you consider me close minded because i think as a shia.i do not care.

i know what are the problems a shia is facing in this country.

i hope you do know the statistics of shia killings in last 30 years or so.

you should also talk about residents of gilgit baltistan and ask them what happened then?

Musharraf was captain then,he was sent to carry out mission with the help of lashkar e jhangvi safely.

you points are legit.but in the society of pakistan,they are'nt.

sorry, I have no names or phone nos of anyone of them and even if I had, they wont trust me to give clear answer. A while ago I asked a cleric from Gilgit what his source of income was and he got so angry and gave phone to his son who started yelling abuses. Already I asked to meet him in person, but he insisted to ask over the phone, so I had no option but to ask the sensitive question over the phone. The people of Gilgit are very incendiary in this short experience. On the other hand, I asked the same question in the same polite manner to a Persian Tajik scholar, who answered it in the nicest manner but it was face to face.

However, I am still very interested in hearing positive or true account of their treatment in detail.

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Since Musharraf isn't running (he never had a chance anyways), I am having trouble seeing who will be the best for Shi'as. Nawaz Sharif is more corrupt than Zardari, and is a puppet of the U.S. Imran Khan supports the Taliban! This may mean he won't stop Shi'a genocide if the Taliban/Jhangvi/Taiba are let loose. Shi'as in Karachi, Quetta, Peshawar, Rawalpindi, and Parachinar will have hell on Earth.

And why do some people dislike the drone war in FATA which target Wahhabi terrorists? It's good that the U.S is killing those terrorists and the Pakistani Army doesn't have to kill the terrorists in FATA. Drone attacks on the Taliban are good!

you didnt get my point.

if you consider me close minded because i think as a shia.i do not care.

i know what are the problems a shia is facing in this country.

i hope you do know the statistics of shia killings in last 30 years or so.

you should also talk about residents of gilgit baltistan and ask them what happened then?

Musharraf was captain then,he was sent to carry out mission with the help of lashkar e jhangvi safely.

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you points are legit.but in the society of pakistan,they are'nt.

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Pakistan must not have help from outside countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran or India. These countries play their own interresser in Pakistan and this is not beneficial for the country. In particular, Iran is a bad example for Pakistan, since Iran does not comply with international safety rules. I very much hope that Pakistan (again) be managed by a strong Sunni wing, thereby ensuring stability in society that have previously been. Pakistan is a unique country in itself. It's free too violent wars between different factions and it is Islamic checked with a focus on spirituality and humanity.

Pakistan must be controlled very well again so that it can maintain its community! :excl:

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I think I am now able to see the greater scheme regarding Pakistan. PML-N will take power and Nawaz Sharif will assume the title of "Ameer ul Momineen". Kashmir and Afghan "jihads" via JuD (Jamaat ud Dawa) and other militant outfits will resume anew with the help of Saudi fundings. There will be untold atrocities against minorities at the signal of Saudia (USA, Israel, same thing). Every pathetic little intelligence agency in the world including the likes of KHAD/WAD will all create chaos and jointly conduct false flag ops as well to pave the way of foreign military intervention. Then, as a result, there will be Western military invasion after enough masses have died to the fanatics, and this will be two prong thrust in the shape of both marine landing on Karachi and invasion from Afghanistan. India will also join in and might end up doing something silly. Pakistan military and its nukes will become a part of history. China will take Gwadar and Gilgit. The rest will be torn apart by dogs.

P.S.: Wahabi militants will die like stuck pigs in the end. And that should be well worth everything. :D

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