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Imams (As) In Taqiyya ?

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From time to time on Sunni forums I come across the response that our Imams (as) did/said/acted certain ways on certain topics due to them being in taqiyyah.

Is this true?

I've always been taught/read that Imams (as) stood firm even in the face of peril and never bent their ways into taqiyah for the sake of having the truth spread to their followers. Why would they have been imprisoned and eventually martyred if they had the option of taqiyah to use?

Its something I see all the time on Sunni forums/websites.

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A lot of people who lived in our Imams (as) times except for their Shia did not actually know about their status and public ally displaying it to everyone was not going to be a smart idea. Imagine an Imam claiming what we claim now in public and people supporting him. You think everyone would be cool to know that the first 3 were thieves and that the Khalifa belongs to Ale Muhammad (as)? The Abbasids and Bani Umayyah would of been pretty pissed to say the least. There would be a civil war.

Yes, they used to Taqiyyah. For Example, if someone came to Imam as-Saddiq (as) and asked him a question, if he was a Shia he would give him his (as) verdict or fatwa. If he was from the non-Imami's he would give him his (as) and all the fatwas and opinion of scholars or people of that area and let them decide for themselves. However, if an opponent, a person know for his opposition and hatred for the Shia came to him he would give him his sects opinion and not give his (as). The Imams were happy just to see the people praying, giving them more than what they could handle wouldn't be the best thing to do and as a result it would put the Shia's lives in danger.

There is a hadith where one of the Imams got angry at one of his Shia who said Salaam to him in public. I cannot recall which Imam it was but that goes to show what type of Taqiyyah they were using. He didn't want the people to see that this man was actually an associate of the Imam. It was safer for them to pretend they didn't know the Imams. Our Imams (as) were extremely cleve and this type of Taqiyyah worked. To this day Sunni's still think the Imams (as) were from Ahlul-Sunnah and we 'made up' shi'ism.

If they do taqiyya, how can they be relied on for us to take our religion from?

You have to understand the context of it all.

They did Taqiyyah as an exception. It wasn't 24/7. Some Imams did things and acted differently to others depending on the situation they lived in.

We can rely on them because of the knowledge they taught to their Shia and the narrations we have now. Scholars are able to distinguish which narrations were said in Taqiyyah and which were not, majority of the time. For example one man who worked for the Abbasids became an Imāmi and sent a letter to ask Imam al-Kadhim (as) how to pray and the Imam responded in a letter but in the letter the Imam said to wash his feet and not wipe. So when the man went to do wudhu he opened the letter and was confused as he was sure he and to wipe and do it slightly differently, that's why he asked the Imam. But whilst he was washing his feet people who worked for the Abbasids were watching him as he had been seen associating with people who were Shia so they thought he may have become a Shia but when the man performed wudhu he obeyed what rhe Imam said and washed his feet, thus the mans job and life was safe because of Taqiyyah of the Imam (as).

When you understand this you will appreciate the Imams and their Imamah a lot more, trust me ;)

Everyone is under the assumption that the Imams were vocal about their rights. This isn't necessarily the case. If some speaks out against the government now and starts claiming things, what happens? They and those who support them are silenced. This is nowadays, imagine 1400 years living under the Ummayads and Abbasids. The Imams (as) were strategic and opted to protect themselves and their Shia.

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Here is an authentic hadith about taqiyyah:

Imam Al-Baqr (as) said: "Taqiyyah is from my religion and the religion of my fathers; whoever does not have Taqiyyah does not have iman.” (Al-Kafi, Chapter Taqiyyah, Vol. 2, p.219)

This is proof that taqiyyah is a must for us Shiah.

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How is taqiyah being linked back to the Quran?

Imam Al-Baqr (as) said: "Taqiyyah is from my religion and the religion of my fathers; whoever does not have Taqiyyah does not have iman.” (Al-Kafi, Chapter Taqiyyah, Vol. 2, p.219)

A vague hadith which will justify many to have a licence to do taqiyah at their own discretion. Al-Kafi has it's issues, even Shias admit to this.

Edited by Ugly Jinn

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How is taqiyah being linked back to the Quran?

A vague hadith which will justify many to have a licence to do taqiyah. Al-Kafi has it's issues.

bro Allah has given us intellect. If you dont use it to save your life, you should be burned in hell.

Quranic verse: "Let not the believers take for friends or helpers

unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, (they) shall have no

relation left with Allah except by way of precaution ("tat-taqooh"), that

ye may guard yourselves ("tooqatan") from them....[3:28]"

NOTE: The two words "tat-taqooh" and "tooqatan," as mentioned in the Arabic

Quran, are BOTH from the same root of "al-Taqiyya."

"Any one who, after accepting Faith in Allah, utters unbelief,

EXCEPT UNDER COMPULSION, his heart remaining firm in faith -- but such as

open their breast to unbelief, -- on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs

will be a dreadful Chastisement [16:106]

Edited by pureethics

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How is taqiyah being linked back to the Quran?

A vague hadith which will justify many to have a licence to do taqiyah at their own discretion. Al-Kafi has it's issues, even Shias admit to this.

Vague? It's quite clear, clear enough for our greatest scholars to say that it is obligatory. Shaikh Al-Sadooq (ra) said that the one who leaves taqiyyah is in the same position as the one who leaves prayer.

(wasalam)

Edited by Crescent

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