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Muslim Brotherhood in Bangladesh faces justice! The "murderers and rapists of millions" from Jamaate Islami will be hanged!

Hopefully Bangladesh will punish Muslim-Brotherhood affiliated groups with an iron fist. There are close to six million Shias in Bangladesh who will be in great danger if these anti-Shia Takfiri groups take power in the country. Just like Egypt and Syria they will ban Shias from practicing their own religion in their own mosques and houses and will declare Shias as enemies and will bow down to the ZioSalafis.

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Bangladesh deaths rise as Jamaat protest strike begins

At least 16 people have died in clashes in Bangladesh at the start of a strike called over a death sentence given to an Islamist party leader.

Delwar Hossain Sayeedi, of Jamaat-e-Islami, was sentenced on charges including murder, rape and torture during the war of independence in 1971.

Thursday's sentence sparked riots that have left about 60 people dead.

The Islamists say the tribunal is politically motivated, something the Bangladesh government denies. Jamaat-e-Islami called a two-day strike across the country, beginning on Sunday, in protest at the court ruling.

Troops were called in in the northern district of Bogra, where police said thousands of Jamaat activists armed with sticks and home-made bombs attacked police outposts early on Sunday.

The BBC's Anbarasan Ethirajan in the southern city of Chittagong says there has been no let up in the violence since the death sentence was issued.

Police have fought pitched battles with supporters of the Islamist party in many parts of the country.

The Bangladeshi government rejected the criticism, saying violence against civilians and police officers would not be tolerated.

One of the city's residents, Jahangir Alam, told the BBC he had seen a bus burning on the street.

"The police were trying to control the situation, but they were having stones and other objects throw at them," he said.

"People in the street are very, very afraid of Jamaat-e-Islam. I am scared. Evening time is the worst; from 7pm to 9pm it is very dangerous in the street."

Our correspondent says the intensity of the backlash against the sentences has surprised many in Bangladesh, and security forces are struggling to bring the situation under control as it is difficult to predict which districts the violence will spread to.

The streets of the capital remain largely calm as the strike takes effect, although roads are empty and businesses closed in many parts of the country, with people are staying indoors for fear of more violence, he says.

The special war crimes tribunal is trying those accused of collaborating with Pakistani forces and committing atrocities during the country's independence war in 1971.

Earlier this month, another Jamaat leader, Abdul Kader Mullah, was sentenced to life for crimes against humanity.

In January, former party leader Abul Kalam Azad was found guilty in absentia of eight charges of crimes against humanity and sentenced to death.

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Bangladesh verdict sparks deadly protests

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Bangladesh considers banning Jamaat-e-Islami after growing violence

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So they are Brotherhood?

That would explain the reasons why IkhwanWeb (MB of Egypt's official English account on Twitter) is calling on Bangaldesh to release the rapist/killer/mass murdering war criminal who was sentenced to hang?

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They should ban them before Bangladesh turns into another Pakistan.

They already freed themselves from Pakistan in 1971.

Delwar Hossain Sayeedi, sentenced to death recently was due to war crimes committed during Bangladesh's liberation war.

Hopefully next to liberate itself form Pakistan is Baluchistan.

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So they are Brotherhood?

That would explain the reasons why IkhwanWeb (MB of Egypt's official English account on Twitter) is calling on Bangaldesh to release the rapist/killer/mass murdering war criminal who was sentenced to hang?

Yea, they are everywhere... those who label themselves or others label them as 'Muslim Brotherhood' are mainly the followers of Hasanal Bannah and Sayed Jamaluddeen Afghani, and later on some other figures such as Sayyed Qutb also emerged to become a role-model for the Muslim Brotherhood worldwide.

Ohh and don't forget Mawlana Maudodi. In non-Arab countries usually they do not use the title 'Muslim Brotherhood' and instead they have local names.

Those figures and role-models though were some sane people in their times... In most parts they were non-sectarians, more bright and open towards Shias, Christians, Hindus and other non-Sunni, non-Muslim communities. They were just trying to establish 'Sunni Islamic system' and awake the masses to go back towards Islamic thinking and avoid the culture imported by western-eastern non-Muslim colonial powers in the last 3 centuries, and become more independent. More-like they were for justice and against oppression.

But, in later years, the west began to buy masses of MB starting from Afghanistan during the Russian invasion, to Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Pakistan, and other countries where MB had strong presence.

And Saudi in agreement with the west got involved in turning them (MB) in groups and sub-groups to avoid facing a strong MB danger in Gulf-States for the post cold-war project; where then the terrorist and separatist groups began to emerge from them in many countries who got allied with Salafis, like HizbutTaharir, Taliban, Alqaida, and 10s of other groups... And also those who remained within the same circles of old MB became more sectarian, tribalists, nationalists and more out of control, and more divided...over time!!!

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Go to hell the *** OP! You should be ashamed of yourself, you are a supporter of the Oppressors, and I sincerely pray that you go to Hell.

The *** government of Bangladesh is busy massacring its people, shooting dead women and children, setting fire to opposition homes, brutalizing anyone with beards on the streets, closing down ALL opposition, and you are happy about it? You bloody ***, you have no shame!

Here are some images of the "wunderfull" actions of the ruling regime in Bangladesh.

Police take away a dead protestor shot dead on the streets

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Your "Wonderful" government thugs burning down an opposition building:

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Protestors (Muslims, unlike some on this forum), protesting against the government wearing death shrouds:

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Pro-government thugs wearing police uniforms and attacking opposition:

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Your Wonderful government kills another protestor/random person on the street:

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Your friends:

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Look who Noah supports!

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I can understand now why Saddam had to do what he did to you guys, you guys are pathetic hypocrites, you just talk a lot about oppression and stopping oppression, but in reality you bloody [Edited Out] MUNAFIQEEN actually SUPPORT the worst most horrible oppressors, as long as they kill Sunnis! That is an unfortunate truth which I see from the posts on this forum.

Oh, and as for dreaming about seeing the judicial murder of Bangladesh's top Muslim leaders (none of whom have ever shown any hostility to Shias and none of whom have called Shias non-Muslms YET, but I would not blame them if they saw the opinions expressed on this forum), I say, anyone watching eagerly to see their murders carried out will be sadly disappointed - Awami League and ALL of its allies will be wiped out of the face of the Earth before that happens.

I will keep posting pictures of the regime that you support, and I sincerely hope that people will see you for the traitors, and liars, and hypocrites that you are in reality.

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^This is what your favoured regime did to opponents. Great to see the "followers of Imam Hussein (as) support these actions.

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^The martyrs of 28 February - May those who killed them AND especially those who support those oppressors, go to Hell.

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Your friends vandalizing "Islami Bank" - the largest private bank in Bangladesh, simply because it has "Islami" in its name. The bank is public limited company, meaning that no single party owns it (so that Noah the supporter of oppressors cannot make excuses that it belongs to Jamat). You Go Noah! Great Job! Why don't you fly over to Bangladesh with a huge stick and vandalize some more branches of "Islami Bank" - I'm sure that is what Imam Hussein (as) means to you!

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Go to hell the *** OP! You should be ashamed of yourself, you are a supporter of the Oppressors, and I sincerely pray that you go to Hell.

The *** government of Bangladesh is busy massacring its people, shooting dead women and children, setting fire to opposition homes, brutalizing anyone with beards on the streets, closing down ALL opposition, and you are happy about it? You bloody [Edited Out], you have no shame!

Here are some images of the "wunderfull" actions of the ruling regime in Bangladesh.

Police take away a dead protestor shot dead on the streets

Your "Wonderful" government thugs burning down an opposition building:

Protestors (Muslims, unlike some on this forum), protesting against the government wearing death shrouds:

- Calm down dude! I did not expect such a low-level language being used by you against any user here. If you have any argument or logical input, discuss like a sane person.

- Swearing and cursing is easy on online forums or chatrooms, but wish a Takfiri or Takfiri sympathizer curse or swear like this live... like two men (one on one) then I would teach you a lesson of your life.

- Jamaat Islami members are rapists and killers of millions of Bangladeshi people... They need to answer for their crimes against humanity! HANG THEM AND SENT THEM TO HELL where they meet their Takfiri daddies, Yazeed and Muhawiya.

- We had enough sympathy for your bearded-Salafi, Ikhwani, Nasibi folks... I had sympathy for these Shaitain-Brotherhood folks for most of my life, but after what they did to Shia communities from Iraq to Syria, from Yemen to Pak/Afg... I even do not lose any sleep even if the Zionist regime is slaughtering them.

They are a bunch of Nasibi and haters who prefer to stand by Zionists, Wahabi monarchs, suicide bombers, and demolish mosques from Bahrain to Syria and celebrate the killing of women and children. And call Saddam a martyr, Al-Zarqawi a martyr, and support the killing of innocent people daily in Iraq and Pakistan. We still remember the words of Muslim Brotherhood members worldwide when it came to Bahrain's revolution and the brutal oppression where they declared it a sectarian-Shia-majoosi revolt and prayed for the oppressor Ahle Khalifa and Ahle Saud.

*Mods: I hope you read and prevent the usage of vulgar language here!

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- We had enough sympathy for your bearded-Salafi, Ikhwani, Nasibi folks... I had sympathy for these Shaitain-Brotherhood folks for most of my life, but after what they did to Shia communities from Iraq to Syria, from Yemen to Pak/Afg... I even do not lose any sleep even if the Zionist regime is slaughtering them.

And when the oppressed masses of Bangladesh living under the most brutal torture of the Awami League reads the opinions of people like you, I will not blame them if they view Shias as their enemies!

To this day there has been no anti-Shia sentiment showed by the Jamat or any other mainstream party. Shias are allowed to join and be members of Jamat.

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Dear admins: - Look at the above picture and judge whether or not my language is deserved when someone defends the above actions.

"One must ask what is the point in a trial where the only acceptable result is execution": have politics irreversibly stolen fair and impartial justice from the victims of the 1971 War of Liberation?

I first visited Bangladesh in October 2010 and was greeted with a VIP red carpet reception at the Hazrat Shahjalal International airport in Dhaka. I was rushed from the airport to the Sonargoan Hotel to speak at an event hosted by the Bangladesh Supreme Court Bar Association on fair trial issues in war crimes trials. I was then taken to the old Supreme Court building that housed the International Crimes Tribunal and met the Tribunal Judges, two of whom have since resigned, and the Tribunal Registrar. This was my first visit to South East Asia and I was startled by the warm reception. I realised during this brief visit the enormity of my role. It was to save the leaders of the Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami, an Islamist political party with conservative Islamic views not favoured by the west. I remarked to one of my colleagues that this was a once in a lifetime opportunity for a young lawyer; I was not wrong.

The almost royal reception I received was short lived. The infamy that this case has brought has not diminished my status as an integral part of Bangladeshi politics – I am frequently recognised by members of the Bengali diaspora in East London and Manhattan taxis alike – I am not revered for any great achievement, I have become a thorn in the side of a government hell bent on destroying any political opposition.

The central problem in all of this is that the people of Bangladesh, a wonderfully warm and divergent population, are deeply divided by the issue of war crimes. Rational individuals lose all sense of reason when questioned about war crimes. Fair trial and due process rights have no place. All those accused of war crimes must be convicted and duly executed. Nothing less will suffice.

The demonstrations in Shahbagh epitomise the current political climate. The streets are filled with simply thousands of screaming supporters calling for death. Adults and children alike are sporting bandanas and T-shirts calling for the Islamist party leaders to be hung until dead. One must ask what therefore is the point in a trial where the only acceptable result is execution. One is reminded of the words of Justice Jackson, Chief Prosecutor of the International Military Tribunal, Nuremberg who stated:

If you are determined to execute a man in any case there is no occasion for a trial. The world yields no respect to courts that are merely organized to convict
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We must never forget that the record on which we judge these defendants today, is the record upon which history will judge us tomorrow. To pass these defendants a poised chalice is to put it to our lips as well. We must summon such detachment and intellectual integrity to our task, that this trial will commend itself to posterity as fulfilling humanity’s aspiration to do justice
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The present situation in Bangladesh is critical. The demonstrations in Shahbagh, that followed the first two convictions before the Bangladesh International Crimes Tribunal (hereinafter: the Tribunal) have been compared to the revolution that started on Tahrir Square in Cairo. However, there is little comparison to be drawn. The Egyptian revolution sought to overthrow a dictator and return the democratic vote. The demonstrations in Shahbagh are seeking the execution of the leaders of an Islamist political party, and ultimately seeking the abolition of a democratic political party due to its Conservative Islamic beliefs and due to its perceived anti-liberation position in 1971 by supporting a unified Pakistan. One simply has nothing to do with the other.

The danger in what is occurring on the streets of Dhaka today is that mob rule prevails and the country is descending dramatically and rapidly towards civil war. The current Government is doing little to stem the flow of violence. If anything, by supporting the protesters, it is throwing fuel on the flames of discontent. To this point, the Prime Minister, Sheikh Hasina Wajed, has been reported as saying in Parliament that she would talk to the judges to convince them to take the sentiments of the protesters into account in formulating their decisions. It is notable that one of the first judgments issued by the Tribunal referred to the ‘will of the people’ in reaching its decision clearly demonstrating the emotive manner in which these trials are now being conducted.

On 28 February 2013, the third accused, Maulana Delwar Hossain Sayedee, was convicted and sentenced to death following a trial that was characterized by prosecutorial and judicial misconduct, witness perjury, witness abduction and a flagrant denial of basic human rights standards. The call for death echoed by the Shahbagh demonstrators has seemingly dictated the course of events unfolding in the Tribunal in an atmosphere where defence witnesses are now too afraid to appear and where the judges have now been swayed by mob, anti-Jamaat sentiment. The big question is what would have been the response of the Shahbagh demonstrators had Sayedee not received the death sentence. It is clear that the Tribunal Judges were under such pressure to respond to the public calls for blood that, had they not responded as such, it is not inconceivable that it could have been their own blood spilt on Shahbagh. It has become a question of damned if you do damned if you don’t.

It is of course unquestionable that the nine-month liberation war that saw East Pakistan secede from the dominant rule in West Pakistan caused suffering on a massive scale. Figures ranging between 300,000 and 3 million are reported to have died during the conflict. Murder, rape and torture were prevalent. Millions of refugees were forced to flee to neighbouring India. It is therefore unquestionable that there should be a judicial response. In fact, immediately after the cessation of hostilities, the International Commission of Jurists opined that an international tribunal under the auspices of the United Nations should be established in order to bring to justice all those who bore responsibility for crimes of an international character. It was recognised that although the Pakistan Military leadership bore significant responsibility, crimes were committed on all sides and consequently an international response was required. These calls went unheeded. Little attention was given to Bangladesh and as a consequence a culture of impunity, which has pervaded Bangladesh politics ever since, was ignored for 41 years.

My involvement in this process over the last two years has taught me one thing; no one really cares about Bangladesh. I have to confess that is one of the saddest aspects of this whole process. How do you make people care? Why is this not front-page news in the western media? Is it the fact that there is no oil? Do we have no real interest in the future of Bangladesh? It would seem that unless we start paying attention, start listening and start thinking what it is Bangladesh now needs, and by Bangladesh I mean all the people of Bangladesh and not just the Government and its cronies, it is quite conceivable that Bangladesh will descend into bitter sectarian conflict. The leaders of Bangladesh, all leaders, must also start putting to one side their petty squabbles and also look to how this process can better serve a purpose of justice and accountability.

Violence and injustice

The Tribunal was established with the stated aim of bringing to justice those who committed war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide during the 1971 War of Liberation. The pursuit of justice for the victims of the undeniable atrocities that occurred during 1971 is indeed important. Sadly, the opportunity for Bangladesh to come to terms with its past has been missed. The manner in which the Government has attempted to influence the judicial process risks not only destroying Bangladesh’s opportunity to come to terms with its past, but it also risks creating a very dangerous precedent in international justice that could infect the attempts of its neighbours, including Burma and Sri Lanka, to bring an end to impunity.

On 21 January 2013 the Tribunal convicted Abdul Kalam Azad, the first accused, in his absence and sentenced him to death. Azad is believed to be in Pakistan, having fled shortly after the initiation of the investigation. A state attorney was appointed to represent him. His attorney had no prior experience in conducting a war crimes case. He had 3 weeks to prepare and called no evidence in defence of the charges. His closing speech, in what was the first case of Genocide in Bangladesh in 41 years lasted less than two hours. It is notable that the appointed lawyer was a student member of the current ruling Awami League Party.

The recent life sentence handed down by the Tribunal on 5 February 2013 against Abdul Quader Mollah has done little to quench the determination of the Bangladeshi government to see all of the accused executed. Far from respecting the Tribunal’s decision, a hastily arranged amendment was passed which would allow the State to appeal against the sentence – i.e. to ensure that Abul Quader Mollah will face the death penalty. This development follows shortly after last month’s death sentence passed in absentia. The judgments in both cases are guided by a distinctly pro-Bangladesh narrative and unashamed bias against those whose political ideologies conflicted with that of the current ruling party. The actual evidence against the two men was of secondary importance. Indeed, the judgment in Mollah states in the second paragraph that “the degree of fairness as has been contemplated in the [international Crimes Tribunal Act of 1973] and the Rules of Procedure…are to be assessed with reference to the national wishes.” This is a deeply disturbing statement to find in any legal judgment. There are numerous errors of law in both the Azad and Mollah cases that demonstrate a lack of understanding of complex principles of international humanitarian law and the elements required to establish crimes against humanity and genocide.

The Sayedee conviction and sentence represents the most disturbing display of manipulated justice. It should serve as a warning that the Government of Bangladesh is driving the country deeper into sectarian conflict, and that the violence on the streets of its major cities is likely to increase.

Other developments are of similar concern. In the case against one of the accused, Professor Ghulam Azam, one defence witness was recently threatened, apparently by a member of the prosecution, with facing charges for war crimes himself if he decides to testify on behalf of the defence. Another potential defence witness was recently arrested. This reflects a similar incident that received international attention in November 2012, when a prosecution-turned-defence witness was abducted by plain-clothed police officers outside the gates of the Tribunal on the morning of his testimony. In all instances, the police, the authorities and the judges were informed of the situation but did nothing.

The plethora of problems with the trials generally has been published widely both in Bangladesh and in the international media. Following last November’s leaked Skype conversations and emails, between the former presiding judge and Chairman of the Tribunal, Justice Md Nizamul Huq with an undeclared third party, revealed to be a Bangladeshi law professor residing in Belgium, the scale of the injustice that the accused face has become clear. It must be stated that in light of the exposed transcripts of these conversations and emails, it appears obvious that even the most basic standards of fairness and due process have been wilfully ignored.

What is also clear from the leaked conversations and emails is the overwhelming evidence of serious judicial and prosecutorial misconduct, and the collusion of the Government with members of the judiciary and prosecution to ensure quick convictions. Indeed, the exposure of these conversations was the validation of years of criticism of the Tribunal since its inception by prominent international bodies including the Bar Human Rights Committee of England and Wales, Human Rights Watch, the United Nations Working Group on Arbitrary Detention, Amnesty International as well as the UK House of Lords and US Ambassador for Global Justice, Stephen Rapp, to mention but a few.

Given the fact that all the cases have now reached the final stages and the accused, having not received a fair trial by any reasonable standard or observance, face imminent death upon conviction, the US and UK governments must take prompt and collective action to ensure that the rule of law and the fundamental human rights of the accused are observed. In particular, the evident violation of an accused person’s right under international law to a fair trial, as provided by Article 10 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and Article 14 of the International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights (to which Bangladesh is bound), is a major issue about which both governments should be very concerned.

Turning a blind eye to the injustice that is currently unfolding in Bangladesh is no longer an option. What is required now, is immediate and effective action to ensure that the trials of the accused before the Tribunal are suspended pending an independent, international investigation into the serious allegations of misconduct against members of the Tribunal including judges and prosecutors, as well as senior members of the Bangladeshi Government and undeclared third parties.

The perpetrators of the crimes committed during 1971 deserve to be punished and the victims deserve closure. However, only a fair trial before an impartial and independent panel of judges will enable Bangladesh, as a nation, to move past the lingering pain brought about by the legacy of war.

About the author

Toby Cadman is an established international criminal law specialist in the areas of war crimes, terrorism, extradition, mutual assistance and human rights law.

STATEMENT

The BHRC expresses grave concern at the verdict in the

Sayedee case. BHRC is opposed to the death penalty in all

circumstances.

Following its two statements of November 16th and December 14th 2012 in which the Bar

Human Rights Committee (“BHRC”) raised serious concerns as to procedural and

substantive flaws in the conduct of the trial of Delwar Hossein Sayedee before the

Bangladesh International Crimes Tribunal (“ICT”), the BHRC now expresses grave concern

at the verdict in the Sayedee case handed down yesterday by the ICT in which he was found

guilty on eight counts out of twenty counts. In respect of two of those counts, Sayedee has

been sentenced to capital punishment. The BHRC is opposed to the death penalty in all

circumstances.

The BHRC regrets that its earlier calls for a retrial in the Sayedee case have not been heeded.

This now leads to an untenable position in which the verdict is unalterably flawed through the

failure to comply with due process.

The BHRC acknowledges the deep-seated national desire for justice and accountability

amongst the Bangladeshi population which has led to major protest and unrest following the

first two verdicts of the ICT released earlier this year. The BHRC is supportive of a legal

process designed to bring an end to decades of impunity, but such a process must be fair,

transparent and in accordance with the rule of law. It is necessary for guilt to be determined

in the impartial, independent setting of a courtroom which is free from all outside

interference, be that governmental, political or by public behest.

Events leading up to this verdict, including the most recent retrospective changes in the law

to allow a prosecutor to appeal a life sentence in favour of a death sentence, suggest that the

legal process has been unduly influenced by external factors.

The credibility of the entirety of the ICT process has been compromised by the so-called

“Skypegate” disclosures at the end of 2012, following which the presiding Judge Nizamul

Chair: Kirsty Brimelow QC │ Vice-Chair: Sudanshu Swaroop

Bar Human Rights Committee of England and Wales (BHRC) | 57-60 Lincoln’s Inn Fields | London WC2A 3LS Tel: +

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Huq then resigned. Such allegations required an immediate and impartial investigation by the

Bangladeshi authorities which has not taken place. Instead, the court has purported to deal

with the criticism by effectively preventing any further public discussion of those disclosures,

both before judgment yesterday, and within it. Such an approach fails to acknowledge the

fundamental attack on the integrity of the ICT itself which results from those allegations.

Further, it taints not just the Sayedee trial with politicisation, but also both the preceding two

verdicts, as well as any subsequent trials. In order to ensure and restore public trust in the

independence of the ICT process, which is crucial for the mission of the tribunal, the

Bangladeshi authorities must fully and transparently respond to these very serious and

credible allegations of alleged collusion between the ICT Judges, the prosecutors and the

Bangladesh government.

The Sayedee trial itself has been beset with serious allegations including the alleged

kidnapping of a defence witness, the failure to produce prosecution witnesses to give live

evidence in court when it appeared that such evidence was in fact available and arbitrary

limitations on the ability of the defence to put its case properly, including restrictions on both

cross examination of prosecution witnesses and disproportionate restrictions on the defence

calling its own relevant witnesses which have not been dealt with properly within the

Sayedee judgment. The tribunal rightfully acknowledges that reliable testimony may be

difficult to achieve some forty years after the events themselves. However, as the BHRC has

already raised, this verdict has been reached by a panel of judges, none of whom have seen

and heard the entirety of that testimony and evidence themselves in any event. These

concerns go to the heart of a fair trial, which now cannot be said to have taken place. The

failure to deal with these inherent fairness concerns leaves the Sayedee verdict, and

subsequent death sentence, demonstrably unsafe.

The BHRC notes with alarm that the Sayedee verdict has been met with violent unrest in

Bangladesh, with rising numbers of people being killed in the protests. It calls for immediate

restraint on all sides. The BHRC considers that it is imperative that legal process be free from

political influence of all hues in order to ensure that the rule of law functions fully and

independently. Only in such conditions will the people of Bangladesh be able to have full

confidence in their legal system, and the confidence to know that legitimate verdicts have

been reached which provide proper accountability for the atrocities committed in 1971.

The BHRC also records that some of its concerns with the way in which the judgment in the

Sayedee case was reached were also pertinent to the two first verdicts of the ICT. In

particular, convictions appear to have been reached on evidence that is often unconvincing

and underwhelming both in its nature, strength and quantity. In conjunction with serious, and

disproportionate restrictions placed on the defence in both the Sayedee case and the Mollah

verdict, there are legitimate concerns as to the sustainability of at least part of those

judgments. In those circumstances, the application of the death penalty is particularly

concerning.

During the formation of the ICT, the Bangladeshi government stressed that the trials would

be compliant with international standards as to fair trials. Indeed, all three verdicts to date

have been concerned to point out how and why the tribunals are internationally compliant. It

is now abundantly clear that there has been grave failure to meet those international

standards. Accountability and rule of law must prevail despite a heightened public and

political climate which calls for retribution, irrespective of the rights of the accused. The

BHRC calls urgently upon the Bangladeshi authorities to respond immediately to these

Chair: Kirsty Brimelow QC │ Vice-Chair: Sudanshu Swaroop

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allegations and to suspend directly all ICT processes, decisions and verdicts pending an

immediate, impartial and independent inquiry into the serious concerns raised as to the

processes and procedures of the tribunal.

NOTES FOR EDITORS

1. The Bar Human Rights Committee of England and Wales (“BHRC”) is the

international human rights arm of the Bar of England and Wales. It is an independent

body concerned with protecting the rights of advocates, judges and human rights

defenders around the world. The Committee is concerned with defending the rule of

law and internationally recognised legal standards relating to human rights and the

right to a fair trial. The remit of BHRC extends to all countries of the world, apart

from its own jurisdiction of England & Wales. This reflects the Committee's need to

maintain its role as an independent but legally qualified observer, critic and advisor,

with internationally accepted rule of law principles at the heart of its agenda.

2. On November 16th 2012, the BHRC expressed concern that the International Criminal

Tribunal in Bangladesh (ICT) was failing to meet international fair trial standards. In

particular, following the alleged abduction of a defence witness, Shukho Ranjon Bali,

(“Bali”) in front of the International Crimes Tribunal on Monday 5th November 2012.

See statement

3. On December 14th 2012, following concerns raised by the BHRC on November 16th

as to the fairness of proceedings before the Bangladesh International Crimes Tribunal

(“ICT”), the BHRC urgently called for there to be a retrial in the case of Delwar

Hossein Sayedee. See statement

END

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I can understand now why Saddam had to do what he did to you guys, you guys are pathetic hypocrites, you just talk a lot about oppression and stopping oppression, but in reality you bloody [Edited Out] MUNAFIQEEN actually SUPPORT the worst most horrible oppressors, as long as they kill Sunnis! That is an unfortunate truth which I see from the posts on this forum.

NOW YOU SEE WHY?

And now you wonder why Hafizul Assad, a great hero of his time responded to your Takfiri calls and sent thousands of you into hell? For Saddam you got your reply with Hafizal Assad. Don't get so excited and show off on your murderer champions.

This is actually the official and unofficial position of the entire Sunnis when it comes to Shias’ killing. You support every tyrant against Shias, but in return you expect all sympathies from Shias when they are in need. And bring up the issue of Imam Hussain (as).

And when the oppressed masses of Bangladesh living under the most brutal torture of the Awami League reads the opinions of people like you, I will not blame them if they view Shias as their enemies!

To this day there has been no anti-Shia sentiment showed by the Jamat or any other mainstream party. Shias are allowed to join and be members of Jamat.

Yea, today the ones in Bangladesh are ok with Shias or other people because they are not in power, once they come to power like Afg, Pak, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia or even in Syria without coming to power massacring thousands of people, simply because they are Shia and without any crime they must be killed or declared Iranian-majoosi agents. We (Shias) should not and cannot repeat mistakes over and over again. From Hamas to Ikhwan, from Jamaat to Lashkare Jhangvi, you all go to hell. You are nothing but Zionists puppets and tyrants. From the times of prophet of Islam till today you hypocrites supported looters, rapists, murderers, and that is why you cannot stand the decision made in Bangladesh to bring to justice the members of Jamaat for their crimes against humanity.

btw: do NOT spam here..with long unrelated and stupid texts, phone numbers, and fake-picutres. Nobody is going to read all those.

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A look at the history of this criminal group in Bangladesh!

Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami, previously known as Jamaat-e-Islami Bangladesh, and Jamaat for short, is the largest Islamist political party in Bangladesh, though they have removed the phrase "Rule of Allah" from their party charter. A large number of members of the party have played a crucial role in the 1971 Bangladesh atrocities during the liberation war, such as in organized killing of intellectuals, genocide and violence against women.

Bangladesh Islami Chhatra Shibir

The student wing of this organization is the Bangladesh Islami Chhatra Shibir, a major organization at many colleges including the University of Chittagong, the University of Dhaka, Rajshahi University, and Jahangirnagar University. It is also pervasive in the madrassa system. a member of the International Islamic Federation of Student Organisation and the World Assembly of Muslim Youth, it is believed to have ties to a number of terrorist organizations in the area as well as to Pakistani Inter Services Intelligence, and it is reported to have recruited youth for the Taliban & Al-Queada in Taliban regime during its reign in Afghanistan. The ICS has been involved in violent clashes with other student groups.

Despite claims of legitimacy from the group, the ICS is undoubtedly a militant organization. The violence perpetrated by the ICS can generally be put into two categories. The first category involves inter-fighting between ICS and other student organizations on university campuses. The ICS's main rival on campuses is the Bangladesh Chhatra League (BCL), student wing of the Awami League, a political opponent of Jamaat-e-Islami. Clashes between the BCL and ICS have caused numerous deaths over the year, most notably in July 2000 when suspected ICS members killed 6 BCL activists in a shooting attack in Chittagong. The second category of violence includes general terrorism beyond the borders of educational institutions. The ICS has been blamed for numerous terrorist attacks throughout Bangladesh, including the bombing of an Awami League rally in July 2001 that killed over 20 people. Although an ICS activist was arrested in connection with the incident, the man was later released, and ICS was never directly implicated. wiki

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Al-Azhar who is known for its latest anti-Shia position and for its support for oppression, torture and crackdown of innocent people of Bahraini, comes out and demands the release of Brotherhood-criminals in Bangladesh.

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Al-Azhar Demands Release of Bangladesh Scholars and Preachers

Egypt’s Al-Azhar, Sunni Islam’s oldest and most revered seat of learning, urges the Bangladeshi government to stop the anti-Islamist crackdown and release Islamists unjustly tried for political reasons.

more http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=30706

One should ask these monafiq nasibis to since when they understand the terms 'unjustly' or justly!!?!

When it comes to Bahrain, they ask Iran to mind its own business and do not interfere in Arabs and Gulf States' affairs, but when it comes to Bangladesh, thousands of miles away, a non-Arab country, a non-ME country, they keep demanding and asking, and making statements? Hypocrites!

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i dont know about jamaat e islami bangaladesh but jamaat e islami pakistan are the biggest munafiqeen in pakistan.

are they same?

i mean jamaat e islami of both countries?

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i dont know about jamaat e islami bangaladesh but jamaat e islami pakistan are the biggest munafiqeen in pakistan.

are they same?

i mean jamaat e islami of both countries?

They were one, even under British-India and after that... the only difference is that Jamaat Islami Pakistan became only monafiq, but in Bangladesh both monafiq and extremists... where they in Bangladesh cooperated with Alqaida & Taliban directly as well.

In South Asia:

Jamaat-e Islami Bangladesh

Jamaat-e Islami Pakistan

Jamiyat-e Islami Afghanistan

Hizb-e Islami Afghanistan

(many Taliban members and commanders belonged to Ikhwanist group of Hizbe islami who after Russian invasion ended were then bought by ISI, Saudi and western agencies and transformed into the Taliban movement). Same thing with Haqqani network.

They all come from the same Ikhwanist background...though in Afghanistan, the two Ikhwani groups change sides every 2 years with new political and religious ideas..and in the last 20 yrs been more loyal to their ethnic/language than to their Islamic beliefs.

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The political commentary of this 'noah' guy is so simplistic and ridiculous our countries would be in havoc with his generalizing 'insights'.

And who the heck are you? I see your name for the first time on political forums.

Anyhow, welcome to ShiaChat, enjoy your stay and get ready to read more bad news on your fellow Takfiris worldwide ;- )

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Titumir, I'm also Bangladeshi and not a fan of the Awami League particularly, hesitant about this whole Shahbagh affair, and personally disliking of police brutality, but Jamaati Islami is hated amongst the overwhelming majority of Bangladeshis for the role of their leaders in our War of Liberation. However, I will admit the extreme politicization of the International Crimes Tribunal and even the judiciary swayed and unnerved, it seems, by the protesters and government. Here, I must also say that banning the Jamaat is somewhat unprincipled. I do think they have the right to remain a legal political party, but unfortunately all parties engage in terrible street violence and hartals.

Al-Azhar who is known for its latest anti-Shia position and for its support for oppression, torture and crackdown of innocent people of Bahraini, comes out and demands the release of Brotherhood-criminals in Bangladesh.

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Al-Azhar Demands Release of Bangladesh Scholars and Preachers

Egypt’s Al-Azhar, Sunni Islam’s oldest and most revered seat of learning, urges the Bangladeshi government to stop the anti-Islamist crackdown and release Islamists unjustly tried for political reasons.

more http://www.ikhwanweb.com/article.php?id=30706

One should ask these monafiq nasibis to since when they understand the terms 'unjustly' or justly!!?!

When it comes to Bahrain, they ask Iran to mind its own business and do not interfere in Arabs and Gulf States' affairs, but when it comes to Bangladesh, thousands of miles away, a non-Arab country, a non-ME country, they keep demanding and asking, and making statements? Hypocrites!

Lol I don't think Al-Azhar has much of any influence over Bangladeshi Muslims. Have all of Bangladesh's ulama dropped dead so that they need their expert opinion? It seems, they are protecting their ideological brethren.

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And who the heck are you? I see your name for the first time on political forums.

Anyhow, welcome to ShiaChat, enjoy your stay and get ready to read more bad news on your fellow Takfiris worldwide ;- )

Im a previously unregistered member of this forum. Im a shia, but i see you constantly make generalizations on sunnis and buffoonish commentary on islamic history. I've always hated bigotry in all its forms, particularly against us shias by the idiot salafis. You even comment on my own homeland iraq and tell us to become even more seperatist with our sunni compatriots, who the hell are you to comment on our internal affairs you sectarian idiot? The last thing we need is commentary from an adolescant zealot whose outlook on sunni-shia history is more foolish than the producers of 'innocence of muslims'. Let's not exhibit the same bigotry.

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Posted (edited)

Im a previously unregistered member of this forum. Im a shia, but i see you constantly make generalizations on sunnis and buffoonish commentary on islamic history. I've always hated bigotry in all its forms, particularly against us shias by the idiot salafis. You even comment on my own homeland iraq and tell us to become even more seperatist with our sunni compatriots, who the hell are you to comment on our internal affairs you sectarian idiot? The last thing we need is commentary from an adolescant zealot whose outlook on sunni-shia history is more foolish than the producers of 'innocence of muslims'. Let's not exhibit the same bigotry.

Yea, I knew you were one of those ignorant-fools, who go around the forums with thousands of nicknames and enter on personal attacks and insults instead of having a say on the topic of discussion. I told Iraqis to become even more separatists with their Sunni compatriots? And when was that?

And LOLLL @ of "comment on our internal affairs" :lol: :lol:

Slave-boy, this is a forum, and its title is Shiachat. You are a-nobody and I am not going to insult Iraqis because of a Mr. Monafiq Nobody-X on an online forum. I am not representing any country and neither you little Wahabi/Baathist-puppet. So stop pretending to be the spokesperson of some kind of government and like a little racist rat try to bluff your nationalism here. If you have a say on a topic then join the discussions, else you better exit Shiachat and do not interfere in the affairs of other people and countries.

And besides, if you little ignorant piece of garbage, if you had a little bit of info on Jamaat Islamic Bangladesh and how their dirty Jihadists served Alqaida and other Takfiris worldwide, including Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan, the same groups who chopped innocent people in general and Shias in particular, then you would have known what was going on here. At least go have some googling, and see and understand the world outside your little world and village.

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I despise Jamaat Islami, im more concerned with politics back home (iraq). You are a nobody little boy, stop acting like a keyboard warrior on shiachat and go do your homework; I dont use google unlike internet losers. If your semi literate rants about me (racist, nationalist etc) show anything, its that you cannot have a civilized discussion with someone with opposing views,

You just performed the same idiotic grouping of all islamist groups in one 'packaging', please just stop talking on subjects you have no knowledge about. The irony in all of this is that you're the ignorant piece of garbage here; you have no idea about the dynamics of the sunni world and all its sectarian and doctrinal disputes. You just make mindless generalizations.

And hilarious you talk about personal attacks when you do the same with your filthy tongue you hypocrite.

This is the topic im referring to: http://www.shiachat....ns/page__st__25

What im trying to say is you constantly rave on about "sunni takfiris", "sunni takfiris" in the same, monotone, nauseating voice. Who are you to judge what the protestors want? My only issue with your commentary is its profound sectarian mindset, not that you're foreign.

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Posted (edited)

I despise Jamaat Islami, im more concerned with politics back home (iraq). You are a nobody little boy, stop acting like a keyboard warrior on shiachat and go do your homework; I dont use google unlike internet losers. If your semi literate rants about me (racist, nationalist etc) show anything, its that you cannot have a civilized discussion with someone with opposing views,

You just performed the same idiotic grouping of all islamist groups in one 'packaging', please just stop talking on subjects you have no knowledge about. The irony in all of this is that you're the ignorant piece of garbage here; you have no idea about the dynamics of the sunni world and all its sectarian and doctrinal disputes. You just make mindless generalizations.

And hilarious you talk about personal attacks when you do the same with your filthy tongue.

So this is your civilized discussion, by the time you entered this topic you named 'Noah' and then started a personal topic? 'Go do your homework, my internal affairs', and all other nonsense?

Why you are here anyways? On Shiachat? Go be concerned with politics back home (Iraq). And leave us alone. You are just here to tell other people how good and bad they are?

If you thought this was a website for videogames or different nationalities to come and talk to their relatives back home or etc... then you might rethink. Go and check/read different sections of this forum (an Islamic-Shia forum) and then you may understand a bit.

Other than that, don't give me a headache... Because, you are the one who brought in the nationalism, sect, and all these kinds of unrelated issues and you said not a single word on the topic itself to refute anything.. just like a Monafiq.

I do not consider you an Iraqi or Shia or anything like that and I am not going to insult any nation, ethnic or sect, if that is what you planned for!!?! And I am going to discuss and post as many topics on IRAQ and Bangladesh and elsewhere on SHIACHAT as I want. Go to some Arabic or Bengali or Saudi or wherever you came from... join some local forums... and leave us alone.

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^^ I edited my previous post with more information. Perhaps we can start on new ground without the petty insults being thrown back at each other.

Oo le tehchee alaa bilaadee mithlil beghel, maa illek ey sheghul wiyyal watan.

I mean you almost always emphasize in EVERY topic you participate in (when its relevant) that 'they' are sunnis and 'we' must always have a seperatist mindset and have irrational fears about the general population of them. Call it sunniphobia if you will. Even in Palestine, but then again there are despicable salafis there who aren't worth a penny. Still you generalize.

Edit: I only insulted in retaliation after you associated me with takfiris in your first post towards me, and look at the crude language you used after that. Assess yourself first.

Anyway, back to the topic, I brought the issue of your sectarianism because in the case of bangladesh you're so blinded by your hatred of sunnis in general (not considering the changes, reforms, disputes) that you barely point a finger at the even worse enemy: the secularist fascists who are committing atrocities right now. The past is past with jamaat, let's be in the NOW.

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Posted (edited)

^^ I edited my previous post with more information. Perhaps we can start on new ground without the petty insults being thrown back at each other.

Oo le tehchee alaa bilaadee mithlil beghel, maa illek ey sheghul wiyyal watan.

I mean you almost always emphasize in EVERY topic you participate in (when its relevant) that 'they' are sunnis and 'we' must always have aseperatist mindset and have irrational fears about the general population of them. Call it sunniphobia if you will. Even in Palestine, but then again there are despicable salafis there who aren't worth a penny. Still you generalize.

The link you edited and provided the reference, there, I never said "Iraqis to become even more separatists with their Sunni compatriots."

Now you change your wordings and asking me who am I to say or discuss and explain protesters demands...

Dude, we are here to discuss, the guy who was arguing against me is not an Iraqi either, and many other people whose nationalities are not known.

And if you tell me why I label certain people 'Takfiris' then I can start a topic on that one, and then you are welcome to defend your Baathist-Takfiris allies.

We in Shia world, from Afghanistan to Pakistan to Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Yemen and Saudi undersand that amongst Sunnis, there are Takfiri groups who kill Shias reagardless. And nowadays, they are targeting Shias everywhere. Shia scholars and politicians, label them Takfiris and in many events in the last 2 years are often called by that name.

Anyhow, I don't understand your problem! Whatever you are, just try to avoid who Noah is, instead refute what Noah says.. "this guy is too much, this guy is not local, this guy wants separatists, this guy call people Takfiris"...and etc.. I am not for such kinds of discussions.. And don't waste my time, come to Iraqi topics and if your a banned member, come with this new username and then talk or discuss whatever you want over there about what I say or said about Iraq.

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Damn bro you always have to respond long before im editing XD alright ill go through what ur saying, give me a minute...

Yes I know takfiris exist, it is unfortunate that an open-minded sunni who had the gall to condemn muawiyah (i.e. Sayyid Qutb) started this whole dominos effect in the 60's. They must be fought, they had their predecessors right from Imam Ali's day: The Khawarij. However whats disconcerting is your quick labelling of any sharia-minded sunni as a 'takfiri' without any knowledge. How would you know? This is like the anti-Islamc movement in America which labels any outspoken defender of muslims as 'Hamas-linked', 'supremacist' or (the funniest one) a 'dhimmi' (should he be a non-muslim). Many sunnis, with Abu Hanifa at the forefront, oppose takfir and dont mind shias in an islamic state (but some of their idiots do believe we're dhimmis who should pay jizya, still thats not a call for genocide).

And youre doing it again! This is exactly the insult I said in my previous post which set my retaliatory insults into effect: your associating me with takfiris. And even worse, bathis! How dare you, my uncles were tortured and hanged by Saddam's regime for supporting the banned dawa party. Arab nationalism is a disease, im a proud supporter of the sharia.

Now what relevance my rant against you had to this topic, see my previous edited post.

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Posted

^Anyhow, lets just focus on Jamaat Islami and on the contents of the latest developments in Bangladesh under this topic... And that was my whole point anyways!

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Yes I know takfiris exist, it is unfortunate that an open-minded sunni who had the gall to condemn muawiyah (i.e. Sayyid Qutb) started this whole dominos effect in the 60's. They must be fought, they had their predecessors right from Imam Ali's day: The Khawarij. However whats disconcerting is your quick labelling of any sharia-minded sunni as a 'takfiri' without any knowledge. How would you know? This is like the anti-Islamc movement in America which labels any outspoken defender of muslims as 'Hamas-linked', 'supremacist' or (the funniest one) a 'dhimmi' (should he be a non-muslim). Many sunnis, with Abu Hanifa at the forefront, oppose takfir and dont mind shias in an islamic state (but some of their idiots do believe we're dhimmis who should pay jizya, still thats not a call for genocide).

And youre doing it again! This is exactly the insult I said in my previous post which set my retaliatory insults into effect: your associating me with takfiris. And even worse, bathis! How dare you, my uncles were tortured and hanged by Saddam's regime for supporting the banned dawa party. Arab nationalism is a disease, im a proud supporter of the sharia.

Now what relevance my rant against you had to this topic, see my previous edited post.

I label some of them as Takfiris, maybe because I have enough info on them (such as Jamaat Islami Bangladesh) and you don't? Simple! Maybe I know things and how the unrest is funded by Erdogan, Emir of Qatar Thani, and Bandar from Saudi in Sunni areas in Iraq, by backing terrorist networks through bombings and protests, and you don't? Then, it comes the discussion parts, where you present your points of views and I present mine...! And that is all about discussing a topic on a forum! And just because you are a local boy, that does not make you an expert on everything in your local areas.

Why I post Sheikh Imran Hussein clips who call these groups as Takfiris and paid terrorists who is also (a Sunni scholar who also demands Sharia)? There are thousands of Sunnis who do not have sectarian mindset or Takfiri affiliated groups and who want Islamic states and who are not puppets of the Zionists... But, today we are facing a wave of Takfiris backed by the WEST, and they are targeting Islamic nations, including the Sunni Mali, Sunni Libya, Sunni Somalia, Sunni Egypt and etc... I CALLED them Takfiris and terrorists in Libya as well, long before Syria.. while the opposition, the regime or the rest of the nation were also SUNNI... and there was no Shia involved. They DO TAKFIR on fellow Sunnis as well and kill them for such reasons.

I post in 2 other Sunni forums, where I call these groups Takfiris and the Sunni members did not have any problem with that term... If I discuss politics or religion in personal life, I use the same term with my Sunni friends, whom none of them ever accused me of anti-Sunni generalization. If the Sunnis themselves, many of them agree that majority of Sunni countries, politicians, scholars, and political movements in present times are Takfiris, puppets of western countries, corrupt, then I don't see what makes you think otherwise? We cannot hide the reality by stating that, yea, good and bad exist everywhere... and sectarians are everywhere... the limit of ignorance of many in Sunni world reached to the highest level... And that is a known fact.

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Posted

People who have never been to Bangladesh are speaking as if they are expert on Bangladesh affairs.

For me brother titumir is more credible because he is from Bangladesh.

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Posted

I use the same term with my Sunni friends, whom none of them ever accused me of anti-Sunni generalization.

LOL! Did you ever bother telling your imaginary sunni friends that "Palestinians are not oppressed muslims" ?

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LOL! Did you ever bother telling your imaginary sunni friends that "Palestinians are not oppressed muslims" ?

Yea, I told them that Saddam and AlZarqawi worshipers are not oppressed and also they will go to hell partying them over there.

And what part of ignored don't you understand? I told you that more than 10 times!

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