How Authentic Are The Narrations Of Our Hadith?

[Al-Hassan]

(salam)

How authentic and sound are the narrations of our hadith compared to the 6 books of Sunnism (Bukhari muslim)? Our Sunni brethren argue that the hadith books that we refer to are a bunch of fabricated myths and stories. They say that the narrations are not very sound and that none of them root back to the prophet through a solid continuous chain of narrators. Do their scholars actually spend years to study our hadith like our scholars do in Hawza? I doubt that they do but how can this claim be refuted? I find this issue with hadith very hard to refute because I have limited knowledge on the basics of the science of Hadith (ilm al hadith) and the science of narrators(ilm al rejal).

What do you guys think?

[Ethics]

we go right through the perfect source, the prophet and his family, where they go from one random to another

[OsamaHatum]

Some are Sahih, some are Hasan, some are weak, and we acknowledge them as such. Many Sunni hadiths however are mawdu (fabricated).

[Aquib Rizvi]

(salam)

They say that the narrations are not very sound and that none of them root back to the prophet through a solid continuous chain of narrators.

This is Wrong!! We have such narration with continuous and authentic chains till Prophet

حدثنا محمد بن موسى بن المتوكل - رضي الله عنه - قال : حدثنا علي بن إبراهيم بن هاشم ، عن أبيه ، عن عبد الله بن المغيرة ، عن إسماعيل بن مسلم السكوني ، عن جعفر بن محمد ، عن أبيه (محمد بن علي)، عن آبائه (علي بن الحسين) ، عن علي عليهم السلام قال : قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله

-Ma'ani al-Akhbar by Sheikh Sadooq,Pg 375,H 1

عدة من أصحابنا ، عن سهل بن زياد ، وعلي بن إبراهيم ، عن أبيه ، جميعا عن ابن محبوب ، عن ابن رئاب ، عن أبي حمزة ، عن جابر بن عبد الله قال : قال رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله

-Al-Kafi by Kulayni,Vol 2,Pg 57,H 7

Edited February 4, 2013 by aquibriz

[Yabnul_Taha]

(salam)

We have hadiths that are very authentic to fabricated. The difference is, we judge them. We don't just take a whole book and slap "sahih" on the cover.

[Naruto]

(salam)

We have hadiths that are very authentic to fabricated. The difference is, we judge them. We don't just take a whole book and slap "sahih" on the cover.

Salam, brother. Actually, we have done that. For example, Sheikh al-Seduq has said that his hadith book, Man La Yahdharuhul Faqeeh, which is one of the four books, is all Saheeh.

[Yabnul_Taha]

Salam, brother. Actually, we have done that. For example, Sheikh al-Seduq has said that his hadith book, Man La Yahdharuhul Faqeeh, which is one of the four books, is all Saheeh.

(wasalam)

"This book is not considered entirely authentic by Shia Usooli scholars."

I think that it is one of the most reliable, but it is not our version of Sahih Bukhari. You still have to grade the individual hadiths.

[Naruto]

(wasalam)

"This book is not considered entirely authentic by Shia Usooli scholars."

I think that it is one of the most reliable, but it is not our version of Sahih Bukhari. You still have to grade the individual hadiths.

Yeah, I know that others disagree with this view. I'm just pointing out that there are Shi'ahs who believe that some hadeeth books are 100% Saheeh.

[Yabnul_Taha]

Yeah, I know that others disagree with this view. I'm just pointing out that there are Shi'ahs who believe that some hadeeth books are 100% Saheeh.

Oh okay, thank you for pointing this out :)