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Salaam

We were quarreling about ibn Al-Khattab (Omar) and we became uncertain about him, so we travelled to Ahmad bin Isaac al-Qummi (Imam Hassan Al-Askari's companion) in Qum.

Is this Omar, the same Omar as being the 2nd Caliph? If so, it doesnt make sense how he is still alive during imam hassan al askari's (as) time?

A obvious fabricated hadeeth, which I hope all can see. Not only is it fabricated because of the sanad, the matn has many issues as well.

If what you say is true, are you thereby rejecting the eid zahra alltogether as being fabricated? Or are there other authentic proofs for this event?

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Salaam

Is this Omar, the same Omar as being the 2nd Caliph? If so, it doesnt make sense how he is still alive during imam hassan al askari's (as) time?

If what you say is true, are you thereby rejecting the eid zahra alltogether as being fabricated? Or are there other authentic proofs for this event?

Ali

Yes, Eid al-Zahraa is a fabrication with no Islamic basis. Celebrating it is a Bid'a.

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Assalam o alaikum...I think shia celebrate this eid because on this day Mukhtar sent heads of Ibne Ziyad and Umar ibne saad to Imam Zainul abideen(as) and Ahlebait ended their mourning period after 5 years..It has nothing to do with Umar bin Khattab because he got injured on 26 Zilhaj and died on 1st Moharram 24 A.H...Please eloborate more about this eid @Nader Zaveri

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Yes, Eid al-Zahraa is a fabrication with no Islamic basis. Celebrating it is a Bid'a.

Word bid'a is so badly programmed in your brain ,isn't it? Go get off your computer ,it's bid'a too, and what this name TOTEM is?, that is bigger bid'a.
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these days i see more and more people spewing out opinions as if they are God, without giving counter evidence.

that is great news! means the time is nigh!!! let's celebrate!!!

wonder why anybody would have a problem with celebrating victory of good over evil .. and victory of ahl bayt (for a change). instead of only focusing on martyrdom and sad moments.

it is quite upsetting! actually makes me feel like those people are upset at ahl bayt justice and hate what's coming! justice for all in sha Allah

Yes, Eid al-Zahraa is a fabrication with no Islamic basis. Celebrating it is a Bid'a.

shia wahhabi !

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Word bid'a is so badly programmed in your brain ,isn't it? Go get off your computer ,it's bid'a too, and what this name TOTEM is?, that is bigger bid'a.

Interesting, you have a very poor understanding of what Bid'a is. You're saying that Eid al-Zahraa is a part of Islam, and that it's Mustahab to celebrate it. You're innovating Islamic acts. That's Bid'a.

Using a computer has nothing to do with Islam.

Anyways, i'm just telling you what our Maraji' say. Can you find me a reputable Marji' who considers Eid al-Zahraa to be a valid Eid?

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best prove and disprove ourselves:

steps of proving / disproving:

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make hypothesis

2-

what claimed events did most likely happen on this day?

what claimed events did not most likely happen on this day?

how do we know? ( what counter/pro ahadeeth do we have )?

the art of science guys! it's beautiful :D

.. let's take it from there.

i think we are old enough to read ourselves. after all, the scholars use books, and we can read wAlhamdulilah

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.. in sha Allah

i forgot to mention:

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Discussion

may Allah s w t grant the promised success to His ahl al Bayt Allah soon in sha Allah Rabb el 3alameen alRa7man alRa7eem and may Allah s w t guide and forgive us all in sha Allah

(wasalam)

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Celebrating in the happiness of Mohammad o Aal e Mohammad,(saww) can never be a bid'a. In this way, you'll declare Ghadeer, mubaahila, everything as bid'a. Indeed, you have a poor understanding not only of bidah, but marifah of Ahlebait, (as) as well, Mawwadah is mandatory upon us, and when you love someone, you feel grief in their grief, and happiness in their happiness. When you think that you are using a computer for Islamic purposes, it will give you reward, it automatically becomes bid'a then if we use your methodology of deducing laws.

Can you find me any REPUTABLE marja who declares it bid'a?, and please quote someone other than Ay Yaqoobi too.

Iranians celebrate Nowroz,but maraji don't declare it bid'a even, and in every part of the world, Shias celebrate Birthdays of Aimma, (as), including Iran, Iraq, did any marja says its bid'a? They themselves take part in these occasions , it's all because of love of Ahlebait, (as) which has become so hard for some mindsets to understand.

Yes, but the point is that there is nothing to be happy about on Eid al-Zahraa. It doesn't exist. It's just a normal day. Today is the 25th of January, I can't just declare it Eid al-Hussain and start celebrating it.

No, again using a computer isn't Bid'a. If i'm using it to teach Islam, then i'm using it to communicate. That's what i'm getting the reward for. If I say that using a computer in itself is a good act Islamically, then it's a Bid'a.

I do understand your logic, and you're absolutely right - we are happy when they (as) are happy, and sad when they (as) are sad. But the issue is that Eid al-Zahraa does not exist at all. It's a made up celebration.

Other reputable Maraji'? Sure, how about Sheikh Muhammad-Hussain Kashif al-Ghitaa', who gave a two hour Khutba on how Eid al-Zahraa is a Bid'a - and he used stronger language than that. Sheikh Muhammad-Hussain Kashif al-Ghitaa' is a heavyweight by the way. Many of our Maraji' past and present see him as a role model.

Nowrooz actually has complicated reasons why it's not declared a Bid'a - which it is, by the way. Very few Maraji' declare it so out of Taqiyya.

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Yes, but the point is that there is nothing to be happy about on Eid al-Zahraa. It doesn't exist. It's just a normal day. Today is the 25th of January, I can't just declare it Eid al-Hussain and start celebrating it.

No, again using a computer isn't Bid'a. If i'm using it to teach Islam, then i'm using it to communicate. That's what i'm getting the reward for. If I say that using a computer in itself is a good act Islamically, then it's a Bid'a.

I do understand your logic, and you're absolutely right - we are happy when they (as) are happy, and sad when they (as) are sad. But the issue is that Eid al-Zahraa does not exist at all. It's a made up celebration.

Other reputable Maraji'? Sure, how about Sheikh Muhammad-Hussain Kashif al-Ghitaa', who gave a two hour Khutba on how Eid al-Zahraa is a Bid'a - and he used stronger language than that. Sheikh Muhammad-Hussain Kashif al-Ghitaa' is a heavyweight by the way. Many of our Maraji' past and present see him as a role model.

Nowrooz actually has complicated reasons why it's not declared a Bid'a - which it is, by the way. Very few Maraji' declare it so out of Taqiyya.

Well i don't want to indulge in the argument over other reasons, but one can't be denied anyhow, that it's the first day of Imamat of our Imam of the time, (as). Then the revenge thing is there in some traditions too. So, even if symbolically we celebrate the day of success of right over wrong, there is no harm in it, let alone when there are narrations about it, irrespective of their strength.

Yes, Ay.Kashif ul ghitaa is heavy weight, but not all those maraaji who do revere him, agree with this approach about Eid ul Zahra, (as). Secondly ,what is the point of Taqqiyah about Nowroz? Are zoroashtrians ruling Iran?, that Taqqiyah is needed there, i don't think ,they find Nowroz as bid'a, otherwise they would have declared so.

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Well i don't want to indulge in the argument over other reasons, but one can't be denied anyhow, that it's the first day of Imamat of our Imam of the time, (as). Then the revenge thing is there in some traditions too. So, even if symbolically we celebrate the day of success of right over wrong, there is no harm in it, let alone when there are narrations about it, irrespective of their strength.

Yes, Ay.Kashif ul ghitaa is heavy weight, but not all those maraaji who do revere him, agree with this approach about Eid ul Zahra, (as). Secondly ,what is the point of Taqqiyah about Nowroz? Are zoroashtrians ruling Iran?, that Taqqiyah is needed there, i don't think ,they find Nowroz as bid'a, otherwise they would have declared so.

Sister, I don't have an issue with people who celebrate the Eid - we have an Islamic academic difference of opinion. I sincerely hope that you don't get offended by anything I say, or take anything personally!

Now, the reason that it being due to the Imamate of Imam al-Mahdi (ATF) is illogical is because that is also the day of the Shahadat of Imam Hassan al-Askari (as). The reason that it being due to Fatima (as) being happy over the death of Umar is illogical because Umar died after Fatima (as).

Taqiyya about Norooz is more complicated, but I assure you that it does happen. Scholars from within the Hawza of Najaf explained this to me, and told me that it happens. Thing is, the Iranian Shia, though good and sincere Shia, do have a lot of cultural influence - as do people of other nationalities. Norooz is a huge deal to Iranians, so declaring it Haraam would cause massive impact, and the Marji' in question would lose many Iranian followers, and supporters. Not just that, but the Marji' could even be in danger as a result - as some Maraji' in the past have been in danger due to declaring Tatbir Haraam.

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Sister, I don't have an issue with people who celebrate the Eid - we have an Islamic academic difference of opinion. I sincerely hope that you don't get offended by anything I say, or take anything personally!

Now, the reason that it being due to the Imamate of Imam al-Mahdi (ATF) is illogical is because that is also the day of the Shahadat of Imam Hassan al-Askari (as). The reason that it being due to Fatima (as) being happy over the death of Umar is illogical because Umar died after Fatima (as).

Taqiyya about Norooz is more complicated, but I assure you that it does happen. Scholars from within the Hawza of Najaf explained this to me, and told me that it happens. Thing is, the Iranian Shia, though good and sincere Shia, do have a lot of cultural influence - as do people of other nationalities. Norooz is a huge deal to Iranians, so declaring it Haraam would cause massive impact, and the Marji' in question would lose many Iranian followers, and supporters. Not just that, but the Marji' could even be in danger as a result - as some Maraji' in the past have been in danger due to declaring Tatbir Haraam.

Brother,i am not taking anything personal, or offensive...i don't believe umar died on this date, and Imam Hasan Askari,(as)'s date of Shahadut is 8th rabi ul awwul not 9th. And the other reason of celebration is revenge of Karbala, not umar's death merely.

Secondly, even if taqqiyah is the case, i don't get it, if an Alim fears the loss of following, then he starts abiding by their desires, even if he finds them wrong, how can it be taqqiyah since it's a duty of our scholars not to follow someone's desires, but Shariaa strictly, moreover i believe if fire jumping sort of things aren't done, there is no harm in Nowroz even.

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There are plenty of things not harram, but not benifical either. Instead of making our mosques hubs for science, philosophy, finding solution to problems, self developtment, we have a myriad of days where we just celebrate and mourn. No offence, but if i ever am put in a position of authority, i would totally abolish certain practises and introduce much better ones.

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al-Marji` Grand Ayatulla al-Sheikh Nasir Makarim al-Shirazi in the holy city of Qum has warned about the increase in the amount of myths that are widely spread among the laypeople at the end of the month of Safar and the beginning of Rabi`-ul-Hijratayn, from them is what is known as "`Eid ul-Zahra'".

حذر المرجع الديني آية الله العظمى الشيخ ناصر مكارم الشيرازي في مدينة قم المقدسة من اتساع نطاق الخرافات المنتشرة بين العوام في نهاية شهر صفر وبداية شهر ربيع الهجريين ومنها ما يعرف بـ"بعيد الزهراء".

He added, that the likes of these innovated myths are invented by the laypeople and have absolutely no relation to the religion.

واضاف ان امثال هذه الخرافات المستحدثة هي من أختراع بعض العوام وليس لها أي صلة بالدين.

LINK: http://mail.taghribnews.ir/vdcaien6.49n0u1kzk4.html

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the umar(LA) being referred to is umar ibn saad not the other one from the time of Sayeda Fatima Zahra (sa)

it is said this was the day the head of umar ibn saad was sent to Imam Ali Zain ul Abideen (as). Maula Sajjad(as) then smiled for the first time since the massacre of Kerbala and He ordered the womenfolk of His household to change their clothes etc

W'Allahu Aalim

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al-Marji` Grand Ayatulla al-Sheikh Nasir Makarim al-Shirazi in the holy city of Qum has warned about the increase in the amount of myths that are widely spread among the laypeople at the end of the month of Safar and the beginning of Rabi`-ul-Hijratayn, from them is what is known as "`Eid ul-Zahra'".

حذر المرجع الديني آية الله العظمى الشيخ ناصر مكارم الشيرازي في مدينة قم المقدسة من اتساع نطاق الخرافات المنتشرة بين العوام في نهاية شهر صفر وبداية شهر ربيع الهجريين ومنها ما يعرف بـ"بعيد الزهراء".

He added, that the likes of these innovated myths are invented by the laypeople and have absolutely no relation to the religion.

واضاف ان امثال هذه الخرافات المستحدثة هي من أختراع بعض العوام وليس لها أي صلة بالدين.

LINK: http://mail.taghribn...49n0u1kzk4.html

(bismillah)

Salam.

http://www.jafariyanews.com/2k10_news/march/14naser_makarem_shirazi.htm

http://www.jafariyanews.com/2k10_news/march/1najaf_hauzaa_eid_az_zahra.htm

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^ We dont even need any traditions or hadiths to celebrate Eid Ul Zahra. We've just dedicated the whole week to renew our promises to dis-associate ourselves from the enemies of Allah. This year it happened to fall on the Iranian government's so called "unity week" which stirred a bit of controversy

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Allama Majlisi quotes from Zwaid al-Fawaid by Sayed Ibn Tawoos after quoting the long narration on Eid on the day of 9th of Rabi Al-Awwal:

نقلته من خط محمد بن علي بن محمد بن طي رحمه الله، ووجدنا في ما تصفّحنا من الكتب عدة روايات موافقة لها فاعتمدنا عليها، فينبغي تعظيم هذا اليوم المشار إليه وإظهار السرور فيه

"And we have found in what we read from the books several narrations in consent with this narration (about Eid on the day of 9th Rabi Al Awwal). We rely upon it. We should respect this day being referred to (9th Rabi Al-Awwal) and show/display happiness in it."

[source: Bihar Al-Anwar, Vol. 95, Pg. 351]

Sayed Ibn Tawoos says regarding 9th of Rabi Al-Awwal:

اعلم أن هذا اليوم وجدنا فيه رواية عظيمة الشأن، ووجدنا جماعة من العجم والإخوان يعظّمون السرور فيه، ويذكرون أنه يوم هلاك بعض من كان يهون بالله جل جلاله ورسوله صلوات الله عليه ويعاديه

"Know that for this day we have found great narration. And we have found a group from the Ajam(Persians?) and our brothers (in faith) who showed happiness in this day and they recalled that verily this is the day of destruction of few of those who humilated Allah (swt) and his Prophet (saww) and were hostile to Him."

[iqbal Al-Amal, Pg. 597]

Sheikh Abbas Qummi in Mufati al-Jinaan regarding 9th of Rabi Al-Awwal:

اليوم التّاسع : عيد عظيم وهو عيد البقر وشرحه طويل مذكور في محلّه وروي انّ من أنفق شيئاً في هذا اليوم غفرت ذُنوبه وقيل يستحبّ في هذا اليوم اطعام الاخوان المؤمنين وافراحهم والتّوسّع في نفقة العيال ولبس الثّياب الطّيّبة وشكر الله تعالى وعبادته وهو يوم زوال الغُموم والاحزان وهو يوم شريف جدّاً

"The 9th of Rabi Al-Awwal: It is a great Eid and it is the Eid of Al-Baqr (referring to the splitting open of stomach of Umar?) and its explanation is long and is stated in its required place and its narrated that verily one who spends (nifaaq) any thing on this day will have his sins forgiven and its is said that its Mustahab in this day to give food to the believing brothers and to make them happy and to increase the spending on ones household and wear clean clothes and thank Allah (swt) and worship Him and this day is the day of passing of distress and grief and it is very noble day."

[Mufati Al-Jinaan - Shikh Abbas Qummi]

Sheikh Muhammad Husain Najafi in his book "Jawahir Al-Kalaam" says:

وأما الغسل للتاسع من ربيع الاول فقد حكي أنه من فعل أحمد بن إسحاق القمي معللاله بأنه يوم عيد

لكن المعروف الآن بين الشيعة انما هو يوم تاسع ربيع ، وقد عثرت على خبر مسندا إلىالنبي ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) في فضل هذا اليوم وشرفه وبركته وأنه يومسرور لهم (عليهم السلام)

(فلعلنا نقول استحباب الغسل فيه بناء على استحبابه لمثل هذه الازمنة وسيما مع كونه عيدا لنا وأئمتنا (عليهم السلام

"And as for the Gusl for the 9th of Rabi-Al-Awwal, it has been narrated that it was the act of Ahmad bin Ishaq Al-Qummi , with the reasoning as it is the day of Eid."

"But it is famous till today among the Shias, that that is the day of 9th of Rabi-Al-Awwal. And it has been found in a narration reaching up to Prophet Muhammad (saww) about the virtue of this Day and its honor and its blessings verily it’s a day of happiness for Them (as)."

"And we say that the recommendation of Gusl on this day is based on the recommendation of it for such times (days) and especially with it being Eid for us and our Imam’s (as)."

[source: Jawahir Al-Kalam, Vol. 5, Pg. 43-44]

Sayed Ali Husaini Milani when asked regarding the narration of Eid (which is narrated by Ahmad bin Ishaaq) on the 9th of Rabi Al-Awwal says:

رواية أحمد بن اسحاق مقبولة عند العلماء

"Narrations of Ahmad bin Ishaaq are acceptable near the scholars."

http://www.al-milani...0038&itemid=339

Read what Sayed Sadiq Shirazi says: http://www.s-alshira.../1432/03/07.htm

http://www.marefatea...9-rabi-al-awwal

وبإسناده عن الحسين بن سعيد ، عن النضر ، عن يحيى الحلبي ، عن ابن مسكان ، عن إسماعيل الجعفي قال : قلت لابي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) : رجل يحب أمير المؤمنين ( عليه السلام ) ولا يتبرأ من عدوه ويقول : هو أحب إلي ممن خالفه ، فقال : هذا مخلط وهو عدو ، فلا تصل خلفه ولا كرامة إلا أن تتقيه

From Isma`il al-Ju`fi. He said:

I said to Abu Ja`far (as): A man who loves Amir Al-Mu'mineen (as) but does not do bara'a from his enemies, and he says: He [imam Ali (as)] is more beloved to me from those who opposed him.

So Imam (as) said: This is a confused (person) and he is an enemy, so do not pray behind him, not at all, unless you fear him.

Source: Man la Yahzarul Faqih Vol.1 Pg.380, Wasail-us-Shia Vol.8 Pg.309

http://al-shia.org/html/ara/books/lib-hadis/faqih-1/15.htm#link61

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Allama Majlisi quotes from Zwaid al-Fawaid by Sayed Ibn Tawoos after quoting the long narration on Eid on the day of 9th of Rabi Al-Awwal:

نقلته من خط محمد بن علي بن محمد بن طي رحمه الله، ووجدنا في ما تصفّحنا من الكتب عدة روايات موافقة لها فاعتمدنا عليها، فينبغي تعظيم هذا اليوم المشار إليه وإظهار السرور فيه

"And we have found in what we read from the books several narrations in consent with this narration (about Eid on the day of 9th Rabi Al Awwal). We rely upon it. We should respect this day being referred to (9th Rabi Al-Awwal) and show/display happiness in it."

[source: Bihar Al-Anwar, Vol. 95, Pg. 351]

Sayed Ibn Tawoos says regarding 9th of Rabi Al-Awwal:

اعلم أن هذا اليوم وجدنا فيه رواية عظيمة الشأن، ووجدنا جماعة من العجم والإخوان يعظّمون السرور فيه، ويذكرون أنه يوم هلاك بعض من كان يهون بالله جل جلاله ورسوله صلوات الله عليه ويعاديه

"Know that for this day we have found great narration. And we have found a group from the Ajam(Persians?) and our brothers (in faith) who showed happiness in this day and they recalled that verily this is the day of destruction of few of those who humilated Allah (swt) and his Prophet (saww) and were hostile to Him."

[iqbal Al-Amal, Pg. 597]

Sheikh Abbas Qummi in Mufati al-Jinaan regarding 9th of Rabi Al-Awwal:

اليوم التّاسع : عيد عظيم وهو عيد البقر وشرحه طويل مذكور في محلّه وروي انّ من أنفق شيئاً في هذا اليوم غفرت ذُنوبه وقيل يستحبّ في هذا اليوم اطعام الاخوان المؤمنين وافراحهم والتّوسّع في نفقة العيال ولبس الثّياب الطّيّبة وشكر الله تعالى وعبادته وهو يوم زوال الغُموم والاحزان وهو يوم شريف جدّاً

"The 9th of Rabi Al-Awwal: It is a great Eid and it is the Eid of Al-Baqr (referring to the splitting open of stomach of Umar?) and its explanation is long and is stated in its required place and its narrated that verily one who spends (nifaaq) any thing on this day will have his sins forgiven and its is said that its Mustahab in this day to give food to the believing brothers and to make them happy and to increase the spending on ones household and wear clean clothes and thank Allah (swt) and worship Him and this day is the day of passing of distress and grief and it is very noble day."

[Mufati Al-Jinaan - Shikh Abbas Qummi]

Sheikh Muhammad Husain Najafi in his book "Jawahir Al-Kalaam" says:

وأما الغسل للتاسع من ربيع الاول فقد حكي أنه من فعل أحمد بن إسحاق القمي معللاله بأنه يوم عيد

لكن المعروف الآن بين الشيعة انما هو يوم تاسع ربيع ، وقد عثرت على خبر مسندا إلىالنبي ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) في فضل هذا اليوم وشرفه وبركته وأنه يومسرور لهم (عليهم السلام)

(فلعلنا نقول استحباب الغسل فيه بناء على استحبابه لمثل هذه الازمنة وسيما مع كونه عيدا لنا وأئمتنا (عليهم السلام

"And as for the Gusl for the 9th of Rabi-Al-Awwal, it has been narrated that it was the act of Ahmad bin Ishaq Al-Qummi , with the reasoning as it is the day of Eid."

"But it is famous till today among the Shias, that that is the day of 9th of Rabi-Al-Awwal. And it has been found in a narration reaching up to Prophet Muhammad (saww) about the virtue of this Day and its honor and its blessings verily it’s a day of happiness for Them (as)."

"And we say that the recommendation of Gusl on this day is based on the recommendation of it for such times (days) and especially with it being Eid for us and our Imam’s (as)."

[source: Jawahir Al-Kalam, Vol. 5, Pg. 43-44]

Sayed Ali Husaini Milani when asked regarding the narration of Eid (which is narrated by Ahmad bin Ishaaq) on the 9th of Rabi Al-Awwal says:

رواية أحمد بن اسحاق مقبولة عند العلماء

"Narrations of Ahmad bin Ishaaq are acceptable near the scholars."

http://www.al-milani...0038&itemid=339

Read what Sayed Sadiq Shirazi says: http://www.s-alshira.../1432/03/07.htm

http://www.marefatea...9-rabi-al-awwal

وبإسناده عن الحسين بن سعيد ، عن النضر ، عن يحيى الحلبي ، عن ابن مسكان ، عن إسماعيل الجعفي قال : قلت لابي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) : رجل يحب أمير المؤمنين ( عليه السلام ) ولا يتبرأ من عدوه ويقول : هو أحب إلي ممن خالفه ، فقال : هذا مخلط وهو عدو ، فلا تصل خلفه ولا كرامة إلا أن تتقيه

From Isma`il al-Ju`fi. He said:

I said to Abu Ja`far (as): A man who loves Amir Al-Mu'mineen (as) but does not do bara'a from his enemies, and he says: He [imam Ali (as)] is more beloved to me from those who opposed him.

So Imam (as) said: This is a confused (person) and he is an enemy, so do not pray behind him, not at all, unless you fear him.

Source: Man la Yahzarul Faqih Vol.1 Pg.380, Wasail-us-Shia Vol.8 Pg.309

http://al-shia.org/h...1/15.htm#link61

(salam)

Nothing you quoted is a narration. A scholar saying that he believes in something is not reason enough to rely on it.

What Syed Sadiq al-Shirazi said is fine, but I struggle to see what relevance it has to the concept of Eid al-Zahraa?

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(salam)

Nothing you quoted is a narration. A scholar saying that he believes in something is not reason enough to rely on it.

What Syed Sadiq al-Shirazi said is fine, but I struggle to see what relevance it has to the concept of Eid al-Zahraa?

(bismillah)

Salam

The statement of the scholars are regarding the narration that has come on Eid-e-Zehra (sa) and hence are relevant. The very narrations which is quoted in the very first post of this thread

Do you have any narration from Masoom (as) against celebrating on the 9th of Rabi Al-Awwal?

Wassalam.

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Salam

The statement of the scholars are regarding the narration that has come on Eid-e-Zehra (sa) and hence are relevant. The very narrations which is quoted in the very first post of this thread

Do you have any narration from Masoom (as) against celebrating on the 9th of Rabi Al-Awwal?

Wassalam.

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No brother, the scholars are merely saying that THEY found authentic narrations and that THEY agree with the celebration. This is not a Daleel. In order to confirm the existence of Eid al-Zahraa, there must be actual narrations present.

I haven't come across any - but why should there be? Today is the 7th of February. Is it okay for me to say 'today is Eid', and then start celebrating it every year - and say that it is an authentic Islamic celebration?

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