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QUETTA: Four bomb explosions took place in the provincial capital on late Thurday, leaving at least 56 people dead and 163 others injured, DawnNews reported.

Eight of the dead are reported to be police officials. A cameraman from a private television channel was also killed, along with four Edhi workers.

Two explosions took place at Alamdar road, two more explosions took place near Airport road, according to reports.

Two bombs exploded minutes apart at a billiards hall near Alamdar road, AP reported.

One of the bombs exploded inside the billiards hall, while another explosion took place outside when rescue services reached the site of the blast.

The injured have been rushed to local hospitals. Police said the bombings disrupted power supplies and plunged the area into darkness.

The Hazara Democratic Party announced three days of mourning in response to the attacks.

Earlier on in the day, 12 people were killed after a blast that took place near Quetta’s Bacha Khan chowk.

http://dawn.com/2013...people-injured/

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KARACHI: At least 21 people were reported dead and 70 others were injured on Thursday when an explosion ripped through a religious centre in Swat in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province.

The blast targeted the Tableeghi Markaz on Takhtaband Road on the outskirts of Mingora town.

“We have received 21 dead bodies from the site of the blast,” Dr Jamil, In-charge Casualties at the DHQ Hospital Mingora, told Dawn.com.

“The death toll may rise as some of the injured are in critical condition and we are receiving more and more injured people,” said Dr Niaz Mohammad had told Reuters.

Mystery shrouded the nature of the explosion, as some officials said the blast was caused by a bomb or explosive device, while others said it was result of an exploding gas cylinder.

Mohammad Hanif Khan, the Station House Officer (SHO) at the local police station, said that there was no smell of explosives from the site, and that the building had also remained intact which showed that the blast may not have been caused by explosives

He added that some elders had said that a number of cylinders were lying at the religious centre.

However, an injured man said no gas cylinders were nearby.

“There was no cylinder where the blast took place. We all know that gas cylinder does not kill so many people,” said another one of the injured, Mohambar Khan.

However, he said that police had sent the evidence collected from the spot for further investigation and would be giving the final version after a comprehensive assessment.

Earlier, Bomb Disposal Squad (BDS) official Qayyum Shah had said that a bomb, in the shape of an improvised explosive device, was planted inside the centre.

The explosion took place at a weekly meeting of the local Tableeghi Jamaat (preachers’ party) at its primary centre in the outskirts of Mingora, the main town in the district, regional police chief Akhtar Hayat said.

There were around 1,500 people listening to the speech of a Muslim cleric at the centre when the blast occurred.

The centre is located at least 10 kilometres away from Mingora, the main town in Swat district.

The area was once under the control of militants and had set up check posts before the army undertook an operation in 2009 to rid the area of Taliban-linked groups.

Takhtaband road, which is the main link road in the region, was the site of several suicide blasts and attacks on military personnel during the operation.

The religious centre, however, is known to belong to the Tableeghi Jamaat (congregation for spreading faith), which is not linked to any militant organisation.

http://dawn.com/2013...ligious-centre/

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Was it to target Shias?

^ Ya

No, not all. read the last 3-4 lines of the second article. It was targetting the Tableeghi Jamat headquaters (they are mostly sunni hanafis, again who differ from wahabis). And the blasts of the first article was targetting everything, not just the shias (but certain shia centers were targets).

Not every bomb blast in pak is targetting shias only, but every peace loving person who differs from wahabi ideology which is only practiced by a small percentage in pakistan. there was an article recently showing how Saudi has recently invest millions of dollars to these terrorist groups inside pak to kill many shias AND sunnis belonging to sects that oppose wahabi-ism. They are a huge fitna and the pak goverment needs to grow some b@ll$ and take a stand against Saudi Arabia

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115 now

Wahabi\Salafi Taliban Solider dies and goes to hell then he says "oh why? I prayed, fasted , memorized Quran, whats wrong?!!" Then inshallah he will hear "You killed Shias of Ali(as)"

My point, may their killers go straight to hell!

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No, not all. read the last 3-4 lines of the second article. It was targetting the Tableeghi Jamat headquaters (they are mostly sunni hanafis, again who differ from wahabis). And the blasts of the first article was targetting everything, not just the shias (but certain shia centers were targets).

Quetta double-bomb targetted Shias. It was on Alamdar Road near the Imambargah. There are lots of Shia there. Faithful assemble outside Imambargah every Thursday for a recitation of the Dua Kumayl. They were gathering up last night when the bomb exploded. Then when the helpers came in, ordinary people, relatives, friends and security personnel, a sinister terrorist hiding around blew himself up. Death toll is around 100 so far. A couple of my relatives were there but they were unharmed.

On the other hand the Swat blast took place at a apolitical, non-violent Wahhabi organisation. Even they are not sparing their own kind because the group that was attached isn't keen on taking guns and killing people.

Filthy terrorists attack _everyone_ who says a word against their Islam.

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Its tragic. I do not understand why target Shia Muslims?? What have we done?? We do not run around carrying guns in our hands and killing people for no particular reason. :(

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Its tragic. I do not understand why target Shia Muslims?? What have we done?? We do not run around carrying guns in our hands and killing people for no particular reason. :(

We need to know why they target shia's.

Perhaps it's because we curse their heroes i.e fulan fulan fulan and fulana ?

Perhaps we do tatbir and bring ridicule to islam?

Perhaps ya ali madad and shirky habits like that?

Whatever we do, there is NO justification for the massacare of so many people. No justification at all. But we need to look at what we are doing.

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Under these circumstances shouldn't Shias be allowed their own armed guards???

They are. They have. Imambargahs during Muharram and other majaalis-related events are guarded by Shia armed volunteer force made up of youth from different organisations who also man entrances to the congregations. But you see the problem is that the rats who come laden with bombs to kill Shias come to kill themselves too. How can you stop a walking bomb from exploding? They reach security cordons and blow themselves off there and then. There are always people around other than armed police and armed volunteers, and they get martyred. All such bombs this Muharram have exploded on the entrances. Casualties would have been far higher had they managed to get into middle of the congregations.

So that's where the non-existent and incompetent state comes in. It's the responsibility of the state security apparatus to apprehend those rabid terrorists before they put their bomb vests on. But hey, that's Pakistan we're talking about where even a petty thief is hard to find let alone a trained terrorists with links.

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Instead of trying to incite a civil war and failing, why don't you ask your Indian govt to intervene and help, if they believe in humanity?

We believe in humanity that's by we never go on exploding others like pak, Indian govt? You people hate and curse India and then expect it to help you? No one can help you people except yourself.

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Perhaps Imam Hussain, (as) was doing similar things that is why He was killed, perhaps other Aimma, (as) were committing something like that so they always faced opposition, perhaps Shias since centuries were responsible for their own murders?

Going by your logic one can only conclude that, that every madhloom is responsible for zulm being done to him, he needs to look for 'perhaps', and should look for fault in himself, not a zaalim.

There is no excuse for these killings sister. But take this example: when salman rusdhie wrote that book, ayatullah khomeini i think issued a death fatwah on him.

Similar to sunnis. When we curse their sahabah, call them very blashpemous names, they react like this. That's why it's harram to curse according to our scholars.

Again, let me make clear these murders are by barbaric people, they have no right to do this, but if someone asked me why shia's and not other groups, that's the answer i'd give.

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There is no excuse for these killings sister. But take this example: when salman rusdhie wrote that book, ayatullah khomeini i think issued a death fatwah on him.

Similar to sunnis. When we curse their sahabah, call them very blashpemous names, they react like this. That's why it's harram to curse according to our scholars.

Again, let me make clear these murders are by barbaric people, they have no right to do this, but if someone asked me why shia's and not other groups, that's the answer i'd give.

Why Shia not any other group? the reason is brother ,Shi'ism is haq, and baatil wants to damage it, simple theory, which is in action since centuries.Why were Masoomeen,(as), and their Shias persecuted? not anyone else specifically.

And insult or sub is haraam, not la'anah.

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Why Shia not any other group? the reason is brother ,Shi'ism is haq, and baatil wants to damage it, simple theory, which is in action since centuries.Why were Masoomeen, (as), and their Shias persecuted? not anyone else specifically.

And insult or sub is haraam, not la'anah.

although i do not agree that this is 100% the reason, as it is a complex issue, i certianly do accept that what you have just said does have a strong element of truth.

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@irrationalthinking

If they were so religious then they would be attacking brothels, heroine/cocaine dealers, alcohol breweries, night clubs. But they don't. In fact they finance themselves through heroin trafficking and your telling me they get angry because we say ya Ali Madad and do Zanjir?

Don't let your "rational" get too you, the rest of the people on this forum aren't Jahils either.

Here are some pictures.

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492555-QuettaHazaraShiaAFP-1357891102-351-640x480.jpg

quetta_blastvicitims_hazara_reuters_1_670.jpg?w=670&h=350

Most of the victims were in their 20-30's

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The problem with Pakistan is that there is no rule of rule law it,s by the gun and if the Shia's don,t start arming themselves they can keep on getting slaughtered like goats because if your government is that incompetent then you don,t have a choice.

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The problem with Pakistan is that there is no rule of rule law it,s by the gun and if the Shia's don,t start arming themselves they can keep on getting slaughtered like goats because if your government is that incompetent then you don,t have a choice.

Yup I agree. If there are a group like Hezbullah in Pakistan too, then they wouldn't touch Shias. Our Maula Imam Ali (as) was all about self defense he in fact said that if people defended themselves, there woudn't be any oppressors.

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The Shia community’s sit-in entered the second day as members members braved cold and rain as they sat in Quetta streets with coffins those killed in Thursday’s deadly bombings, demanding that the military seize control of the provincial capital and protect the Muslim minority community, Express News reported.

Shia leaders also told Reuters they would not allow the 82 victims of two bomb attacks in Quetta on Thursday to be buried until their demands were met.

One Shia Muslim leader publicly criticised Pakistani army chief General Ashfaq Kayani over the security in the country.

“I ask the army chief: what have you done with these extra three years you got (in office)? What did you give us except more death?” Maulana Amin Shaheedi, who heads a national council of Shia organisations, told a news conference. His statements highlighted Shia community’s frustrations with Pakistan’s failure to contain militant groups who have vowed to wipe out Shias.

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@irrationalthinking

If they were so religious then they would be attacking brothels, heroine/cocaine dealers, alcohol breweries, night clubs. But they don't. In fact they finance themselves through heroin trafficking and your telling me they get angry because we say ya Ali Madad and do Zanjir?

Don't let your "rational" get too you, the rest of the people on this forum aren't Jahils either.

Here are some pictures.

492578-shiacryingpakistanAFP-1357910958-519-640x480.jpg

492555-QuettaHazaraShiaAFP-1357891102-351-640x480.jpg

quetta_blastvicitims_hazara_reuters_1_670.jpg?w=670&h=350

Most of the victims were in their 20-30's

Brother, there is NO EXCUSE for what they do. I feel so sad for what has happened and we need to unite and use all our influence and power across the world to put an end to it.

But if you ask me why shia's and why not all the other groups, it's clear things we do clearly get them angry. Like cursing their revered figures ect

I want this to end. It's SICK. I am just trying to find solutions. Didn't Imam Hassan make a peace treaty with Muawiyah?

This issue is complex. Some people don't even need to have a reason to do this. Some men aren't looking for anything logical, they can't be bought bullied or negotiated with; some men just want to watch the world burn.

So we probably have a plethora of reasons for all this injustice. I really feel surreal seeing so many young people dead. I do. I want it to stop.

Although i do not agree with guns in america because there's a law , courts, good police,

you guys better start arming yourselves in pakistan, and getting a foot into politics and negotiations.

Who are behind these attacks? The taliban ?

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The terrorism crept into our society suddenly after the 9-11 false flag which enabled the foreign agents to enter into Afghanistan by arm twisting Musharraf.

There has been absolutely no development carried out in Afghanistan by the NATO which pretended to rebuild Afghanistan. It is well known that in the USA, when the govt wants to stimulate employment, it gives grants for education, research, and industry at the same time. The USA did not build any silicon single crystal growth plant, silicon refining plant, or plants for photocells in Afghanistan. All hands off of the foreigners from the RARE mineral resources of Afghanistan like Lithium, Niobium, Tantalum, Zirconium, Gold, etc. ONLY, they should be allowed to setup plants to REFINE silicon dioxide, ie SAND and dust of Afghanistan.

to make portable electricity generation cells.

Anyway, the terrorism did not exist before the false flag by the yanks misled by the neocon banksters of England.

Who is supplying the weapons and bombs to the Uzbeks caught with TATTOOOS of devils on their bodies?

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The TAMIL CYANIDE-CAPSULE-BITING amphibious suicide terrorists of Sri Lanka were invented in Israel and got their training there as VICTOR OSTROVSKY confessed in his book.

At the same time, someone must have lured or entered the MQM from india and spread hate into it like the ADAM GADAHN, the israeli agent who contacted Osama Bin Laden in afghanistan.

Can anyone deny the fact in the first para? can anyone give further comments?

When they find splits, or disagreements between two muslim parties, by spying, the third outside zionist parties then, go and kill one or blow the other, so that the two parties become more antagonistic to each other based on prior suspicion or even distant historical story.

This is the way, they intend to keep fanning and igniting new conflicts and INVENTING animosities between BROTHERS.

Then, they go and LAUGH behind our backs.

Its the ZIONISTS.

Kick them out of Afghanistan, and dont give any immunity. Karzai should sacrifice himself, but not sign on the immunity.

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P-a-t-i-e-n-t and c-a-r-e-f-u-l-lll investigation.

They have been barking about the "large population" of the muslims for a long time and their goal is to reduce by creating INFIGHTING.

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There is no excuse for these killings sister. But take this example: when salman rusdhie wrote that book, ayatullah khomeini i think issued a death fatwah on him.

Similar to sunnis. When we curse their sahabah, call them very blashpemous names, they react like this. That's why it's harram to curse according to our scholars.

Again, let me make clear these murders are by barbaric people, they have no right to do this, but if someone asked me why shia's and not other groups, that's the answer i'd give.

apostates are to be given death. salman = apostate. but thats another discussion.

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@Askari1

Please leave us and go fight Israel, we don't want your b.s propaganda. Shias have been killed in Pakistan way before 9/11

and you go back and report to your RAW headquarters.

Tell me, who is supplying sophisticated weapons and bombs and training to use them to these rag tag uneducated criminals?

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