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Possible To Know The Originator Of Magic/taweez ?

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A family member has been suffering from some unexplained medical symptoms, for two months. After consulting so many doctors, we consulted 3 or 4 different aalims (person with spirtual powers to heal magic or aweez). All four of them told us that the family member is under some taweez/spell/evil eye. The 4th one told us that the taweez was mixed in water and the family member unknowingly drank the water. He also gave some hints about the person behind those spells but did not mention him clearly. he said that he would be able to clearly mention the real culprit behind all these troubles after 1 day. He has to recite some prayers or whatever.

P.S.

This person is not greedy of money and helps people 'fi sabeel Allah' (free of cost).

Now my question is this: is it possible to know the real originator of a black magic spell or a taweez. Have anyone of you experienced such incident before and particularyl came to know the person behind it.

Another side question: if the answer to the above question is YES and you are also from Pakistan, can you privately tell me about the religious healer/spirtual healer who solved your problem.

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Brother from lahore.

I concur with brother hot hot (i never thought those words would come out of my mouth, mainly the term brother hot hot)

Can you explain what medical symptoms your family member has? maybe they need more specialist input/investigations. Also, there is no place for black magic in islam

Another thread here got me in a harry potter mood

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A family member has been suffering from some unexplained medical symptoms, for two months. After consulting so many doctors, we consulted 3 or 4 different aalims (person with spirtual powers to heal magic or aweez). All four of them told us that the family member is under some taweez/spell/evil eye. The 4th one told us that the taweez was mixed in water and the family member unknowingly drank the water. He also gave some hints about the person behind those spells but did not mention him clearly. he said that he would be able to clearly mention the real culprit behind all these troubles after 1 day. He has to recite some prayers or whatever.

P.S.

This person is not greedy of money and helps people 'fi sabeel Allah' (free of cost).

Now my question is this: is it possible to know the real originator of a black magic spell or a taweez. Have anyone of you experienced such incident before and particularyl came to know the person behind it.

Another side question: if the answer to the above question is YES and you are also from Pakistan, can you privately tell me about the religious healer/spirtual healer who solved your problem.

And then this healer will tell you things about you that he can't possibly know to make you believe him! then he will tell you that fulan fulan did it.. they name some relative usually that you don't trust much.. and then may be he will try to heal... but sooner or later it is all about money!..mostly women believe them but seriously people should stay away from these peer babas.. magic is not very common and everyone here in pakistan think that they are under spell! please keep consulting doctors i have seen people die all thanks to do number healers!

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It seems like some of the people here are not even Muslims. Black magic is very real and is in the Quran. It affects thousands of people daily. To brother Molaayi, yes it is possible to know who did this black magic.

black magic is real but it is not very common :mad: ! i don't have a single friend whose family is not under some spell! my phupo thinks my phupa died because of black magic.. my taimaa thinks her husband died due to black magic.. my cousin says she failed due to black magic! 6 out of 8 families in my lane are under spells :donno: .!! and they all have peer babas to confirm it!. and one friend of my mom told my her that the pain in her arm is caused by black magic and not frozen shoulder..ahahahaha.. seriously people wake up..

molaayi i am not stopping you from ruhani ilaaj but please keep consulting doctors because i know this man who died because healer was trying to heal his kidney failure! ahm ahm

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I know a lady here in America who seems paranoid and thinks almost everyone is under a spell. She even thought I was under some magic spell because I was fidgeting around while the Quraan was being recited on her laptop. I was there with 2 other guys. The lady had some older female friends with her, before we arrived to her home. One of the guys that I was with feared some jinn/magic had been done on him, so he wanted to see if she could help him. The 2 guys were both Hispanic reverts. It was just odd b/c the boys and I would look at each other like WTHECK, is it really supposed to take this long. We thought it would be an hour or less. It took more than 3 hours and still nothing happened. The dude that was getting worked on didn't believe it at all.

So, yeah, the lady was saying that I should come back b/c I may have a jinn or magic done on me b/c of my leg movement while the Quraan was playing. Well, duh, I was bored b/c nothing was happening. We were sitting for more than 3 hours. I was hungry. I didn't want to eat their Dominoe's pizza since they sell pork there, and najasah issues. I told my friend, afterwards, I didn't even talk while the Quraan was playing. I feel as if it is disrespect talking over the Quraan while it's playing. I would feel sinful. Alhamdulillah. I guess I have a good jinn in me, right? One that doesn't allow me to talk while the Quraan plays. I'm not saying I cannot have magic or jinn affect me, but I think she was wrong. Be careful of people who seek attention.

And, of course, I am not against people who work fee sabeelillah, but keep in mind that if one wants to get a large population sick, offer free samples of food/items. People love free stuff.

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I know a lady here in America who seems paranoid and thinks almost everyone is under a spell. She even thought I was under some magic spell because I was fidgeting around while the Quraan was being recited on her laptop. I was there with 2 other guys. The lady had some older female friends with her, before we arrived to her home. One of the guys that I was with feared some jinn/magic had been done on him, so he wanted to see if she could help him. The 2 guys were both Hispanic reverts. It was just odd b/c the boys and I would look at each other like WTHECK, is it really supposed to take this long. We thought it would be an hour or less. It took more than 3 hours and still nothing happened. The dude that was getting worked on didn't believe it at all.

So, yeah, the lady was saying that I should come back b/c I may have a jinn or magic done on me b/c of my leg movement while the Quraan was playing. Well, duh, I was bored b/c nothing was happening. We were sitting for more than 3 hours. I was hungry. I didn't want to eat their Dominoe's pizza since they sell pork there, and najasah issues. I told my friend, afterwards, I didn't even talk while the Quraan was playing. I feel as if it is disrespect talking over the Quraan while it's playing. I would feel sinful. Alhamdulillah. I guess I have a good jinn in me, right? One that doesn't allow me to talk while the Quraan plays. I'm not saying I cannot have magic or jinn affect me, but I think she was wrong. Be careful of people who seek attention.

And, of course, I am not against people who work fee sabeelillah, but keep in mind that if one wants to get a large population sick, offer free samples of food/items. People love free stuff.

Ahahaha :lol: :lol: :!!!: :lol: :lol:

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Statistics show that Pakistanis and Indians have a 99.9% chance of having black magic being done to them or one of their loved ones at some point in their lives. The reasons for the incredibly high occurrence of black magic on the subcontinent are not currently known, but it is thought to be linked to the superstitious nature of the people, and the fact that many apparently have more faith in the power of black magic than that of Allah to protect them.

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Statistics show that Pakistanis and Indians have a 99.9% chance of having black magic being done to them or one of their loved ones at some point in their lives. The reasons for the incredibly high occurrence of black magic on the subcontinent are not currently known, but it is thought to be linked to the superstitious nature of the people, and the fact that many apparently have more faith in the power of black magic than that of Allah to protect them.

You're a funny boy :P

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black magic is real but it is not very common :mad: !

How could you possibly know how common it is? Do you have some kind of statistics? I have seen from working closesly with many sheikhs who deal with black magic that it is very common in the Mideast and even more common in South Asia. In fact there was a mental hostpital in Russia that had two shiekhs go in and try to cure everyone and almost half the hostpitals patients got better as they were suffering from black magic, so spare me your skeptical superstitious BS.

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How could you possibly know how common it is? Do you have some kind of statistics? I have seen from working closesly with many sheikhs who deal with black magic that it is very common in the Mideast and even more common in South Asia. In fact there was a mental hostpital in Russia that had two shiekhs go in and try to cure everyone and almost half the hostpitals patients got better as they were suffering from black magic, so spare me your skeptical superstitious BS.

I suppose gullible superstitious BS is better?

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I suppose gullible superstitious BS is better?

Brillaint. I was losing hope in our school of thought, and you have restored my faith in this fiqh. So many supersitous people belieivng in Black Magic.

There is no such thing as 'black magic'. Any bad that happens is a test from Allah swt. Anything good that happens is a test. Allah swt has created physical laws, the law of cause and effect, and given us the beauty of free will to effecively shape how our lives would be.

Black magic is seen as wrong because you beleive you can call upon a power other than Allah swt to help you i.e magic. I think it's a sin because you'd have to be guillible it exists, because Allah would have had to create it in the first instance.

I feel so sorry for all the people who will ask Mawlana's to recite Dua's to ward 'black magic' instead of giving people the required medical, emotional, and physcological help.

With the age of the internet, these superstitious beleifs will surely be eradicated, by any means neccesary.

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How could you possibly know how common it is? Do you have some kind of statistics? I have seen from working closesly with many sheikhs who deal with black magic that it is very common in the Mideast and even more common in South Asia. In fact there was a mental hostpital in Russia that had two shiekhs go in and try to cure everyone and almost half the hostpitals patients got better as they were suffering from black magic, so spare me your skeptical superstitious BS.

ooohh another one.. i recommend you TALIAN WALA BABA... very popular here in Sialkot... ;)

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You could try this:

39-3 Muhammad ibn Musa al-Mutawakkil - may God be pleased with him - narrated that Ali ibn Ibrahim ibn Hashem quoted on the authority of his father, on the authority of Yasir - the servant, “When Ali ibn Musa Al-Reza (s)[238] entered the palace of Hamid ibn Qahtaba he took off his clothes and handed them to Hamid. Hamid handed them to his maid to wash. Shortly later the maid returned with a sheet of paper and said that she had found it in Abil Hassan Ali ibn Musa Al-Reza’s attire. She handed it to Hamid. Hamid said, “May I be your ransom! The maid found this paper in the pocket of your shirt. What is it?” He said, “O Hamid! This is a charm which I never separate from myself.” I said, “Could you honor me with it?” He (s) said, “This is a charm. Calamities will be warded off from whoever has it in his pocket. He will be secured from all calamities. It is a protection for him against the evils of the damned Satan (and from the King).” He then dictated the charm to Hamid. It is as follows, “In the Name of God the Beneficent, the Merciful. In the Name of God. I take refuge in the Merciful from you - whether you are pious or not. By God - the One who hears and sees all - I shut off your ears and eyes. You have no power over me, my ears, my eyes, my hair, my skin, my meat, my blood, my brain, my nerves, my bones, my family, my property, and the daily bread that God bestows upon me. I draw a veil between me and you - a veil of the Prophets by which God’s Prophets protected themselves from the Kings of the Pharaoh. Gabriel is on my right side, Michael is on my left side. Israfil is behind me. And Muhammad (s) is in front of me. God is informed about me, and will protect me from you and from Satan. O my Lord! May not Satan’s ignorance overcome Thy Patience so as to make me frightened and belittled. O my Lord! I take refuge in Thee. O my Lord! I take refuge in Thee. O my Lord! I take refuge in Thee.”

This was what is written on the 'charm'

بِسْمِ اللَّهِ الرَّحْمنِ الرَّحِيمِ بِسْمِ اللَّهِ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِالرَّحْمنِ مِنْكَ إِنْ كُنْتَ تَقِيّاً أَوْ غَيْرَ تَقِيٍّ أَخَذْتُ بِاللَّهِ السَّمِيعِ الْبَصِيرِ عَلَى سَمْعِكَ وَبَصَرِكَ لا سُلْطَانَ لَكَ عَلَيَّ وَلا عَلَى سَمْعِي وَلا عَلَى بَصَرِي وَلا عَلَى شَعْرِي وَلا عَلَى بَشَرِي وَلا عَلَى لَحْمِـي وَلا عَلَى دَمِيوَلا عَلَى مُخِّي وَلا عَلَى عَصَبِي وَلا عَلَى عِظَامِي وَلا عَلَى مَالِي وَلا عَلَى أَهْلِي وَلا عَلَى مَا رَزَقَنِي رَبِّي سَتَرْتُ بَيْنِي وَبَيْنَكَ بِسِتْرِ النُّبُوَّةِ الَّذِي اسْتَتَرَ بِهِ أَنْبِيَاءُ اللَّهِ مِنْ سُلْطَانِ الْفَرَاعِنَةِ جَبْرَئِيلُ، عَن يَمِينِي وَمِيكَائِيلُ، عَن يَسَارِي وَإِسْرَافِيلُ مِنْ وَرَائِي وَمُحَمَّدٌ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَآلِهِ أَمَامِي وَاللَّهُ مُطَّلِعٌ عَلَيَّ يَمْنَعُكَ مِنِّي وَيَمْنَعُ الشَّيْطَانَ مِنِّي اللَّهُمَّ لا يَغْلِبُ جَهْلُهُ أَنَاتَكَ أَنْ يَسْتَفِزَّنِي وَيَسْتَخِفَّنِي اللَّهُمَّ إِلَيْكَ الْتَجَأْتُ اللَّهُمَّ إِلَيْكَ الْتَجَأْتُ اللَّهُمَّ إِلَيْكَ الْتَجَأْتُ

Uyun, vol. 2

http://www.maaref-fo...glish/index.htm

Or from the site of sayed al-Hakeem:

Q [2] I suspect that a magic or sorcery has been cast on me. I started getting angry about two months ago and always feel agitated. I also noticed signs in the genitalia area along with obsessive desire which i ignored at first. Please could you check if my suspicion is right, and if so what I should do?

- We advice you to refrain from such fictions and fantasies. It is known that "Ayatol kursi" 2:255 is useful to defeat satins. You should recite it constantly and ignore these illusions and not concentrate on them.

Q [3] I read the supplication against black magic. It is stated that write this supplication on deer's skin.

My question is that can I use something else to write that because it is hard to find deer's skin.

- There were some narrations that to void magic, one can recite what Allah said: "That which you have brought is magic. Allah will make it vain. Allah upholds not the work of mischief-makers"10:81.

http://english.alhak...es.php?Where=35

Edited by Ali_Hussain

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So doctors can't find a health problem - oh it must be an evil magical spell. It could not possibly be an undiagnosed condition, a mental health issue which people suffer all over, no, it must be an evil eye.

God creates evil spirits in people who can cast wicked evil spells on you.

If ill, please do not seek medical help. Please repeat verses of arabic or slide graphite on paper into unrelated words and put it in water, then drink it.

I disagree with Richard Dawkins in terms of pure islamic religion, but in terms of other non islamic supersitious pathetic practises, i agree 100%. It's ridiculous.

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Im disappointed with some of these so called alims, and So called shias on here, denying black magic, its been clearly, stated in the Quran and Sunnah, and provin, I dont think that was Shia Alim would really call black magic a fiction and fantasy. Whoever denies any part of Quran and Sunnah is has commited bidah, is an innovater and a fraud! case dismissed!

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Let's quote the Fatwa of S.Sistani if no-one believes me.

http://www.sistani.org/index.php?p=616687&id=1138

Question:

My wife fell into a deep coma. She was very healthy, and just carrying some water and then all of a sudden she collapsed while talking. She was rushed to the hospital immediately and it was found that her blood pressure was very low and due to this her brain did not receive oxygen for 2 hours. The doctors are unable to explain how she has fallen ill and I am also a doctor and also I can not explain how this has happened. Is she suffering from some sort of black magic?

Answer:

You must take her to a specialist. Do not engage your mind thinking about black magic or things like that. All things are in Allah's hand.

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Magic exist, and like u go to the Doctor for your physical ailments, you need to go to spiritual doctor for your spiritual ailments. However to find a bonafide spiritualist is hard work. Most tell you the problem but can not cure the problem. Bonafide spiritual healers can tell who done the evil magic on you but they usually don't and just give you hints if you persist wiv them.

I was effected by Black magic and Alhumdillah I'm cured as I managed to find the set of instructions in a dolls body burried in a grave, through the Spiritualist. If You get rid of the evil instructions the symptoms go. But if them symptoms have been with you for a while they usually leave damage and that's wen you need to cure them by going to a physical Dr. For every disease their is a cure.

Here is a very informative video on black magic/witchcraft by Sayed Ammar Nakshwani.

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Brillaint. I was losing hope in our school of thought, and you have restored my faith in this fiqh. So many supersitous people belieivng in Black Magic.

There is no such thing as 'black magic'. Any bad that happens is a test from Allah swt. Anything good that happens is a test. Allah swt has created physical laws, the law of cause and effect, and given us the beauty of free will to effecively shape how our lives would be.

Black magic is seen as wrong because you beleive you can call upon a power other than Allah swt to help you i.e magic. I think it's a sin because you'd have to be guillible it exists, because Allah would have had to create it in the first instance.

I feel so sorry for all the people who will ask Mawlana's to recite Dua's to ward 'black magic' instead of giving people the required medical, emotional, and physcological help.

With the age of the internet, these superstitious beleifs will surely be eradicated, by any means neccesary.

Magic is mentioned in the quran. So there is magic. You can call it black, yellow, blue, white etc... But it exist. Refer to story of Suleman (a.s) or Musa (a.s) How can you say there is no such thing as black magic? There IS. It's called "sihr" and it's a well known sin in Islam.

"Everything good that happens to you (O Man) is from God, everything bad that happens to you is from your own actions".

(Quran 4:79).

Allah does not wrong anyone by as much as an atom's weight.

(Quran 4:40)

Indeed Allah does not wrong the people at all, it is they who wrong their own selves.

(Yunus 10: 44)

It has been made clear that everything is from Allah but what comes to us of good is verily from Allah and what comes to us of evil is from our own selves (our actions).

Good and evil, blessings and punishment, are from Allah, but no distress afflicts a man unless he earns it by his own mistakes or blunders. Like bounties and blessings, misfortune also comes from the Lord but is earned by man through his own wrongdoing.

You can plot and plan to Create events to ruin someone's life, out of enmity, envy, justice or just pure revenge. Your plot may fail and that is destiny in Allahs wisdom!

They will still be accounted for any wrong actions they do in executing their plans. Wether they fail or succeed in the plan!

If Allah allows the plan to succeed then that is our test, in how we react to the difficulties / afflictions. We can be patient and do things the halal way and find a halal route or we can take the haram route!

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Magic is mentioned in the quran. So there is magic. You can call it black, yellow, blue, white etc... But it exist. Refer to story of Suleman (a.s) or Musa (a.s) How can you say there is no such thing as black magic? There IS. It's called "sihr" and it's a well known sin in Islam.

"Everything good that happens to you (O Man) is from God, everything bad that happens to you is from your own actions".

(Quran 4:79).

Allah does not wrong anyone by as much as an atom's weight.

(Quran 4:40)

Indeed Allah does not wrong the people at all, it is they who wrong their own selves.

(Yunus 10: 44)

It has been made clear that everything is from Allah but what comes to us of good is verily from Allah and what comes to us of evil is from our own selves (our actions).

Good and evil, blessings and punishment, are from Allah, but no distress afflicts a man unless he earns it by his own mistakes or blunders. Like bounties and blessings, misfortune also comes from the Lord but is earned by man through his own wrongdoing.

You can plot and plan to Create events to ruin someone's life, out of enmity, envy, justice or just pure revenge. Your plot may fail and that is destiny in Allahs wisdom!

They will still be accounted for any wrong actions they do in executing their plans. Wether they fail or succeed in the plan!

If Allah allows the plan to succeed then that is our test, in how we react to the difficulties / afflictions. We can be patient and do things the halal way and find a halal route or we can take the haram route!

This simply is not true at all. You can't give 'evil eyes' or use 'spells'. There is no proof whatsoever of any of that. It's a superstituos non islamic belief.

Islam and the Quran mention black magic, they mention idols, and a lot of things too. If a book 'mentions' it, it by no means is indicative of it's validity.

Black Magic is shunned because it is shirk - a little like idol worship. Both are useless, but people ask on others apart from God. They also do the idiotic think of having envy and jealousy, and calling on 'evil' which doesn't exist in the first place, to harm another person.

The only person you harm is yourself, and the envy will eat your inside up(metaphorically).

Now anyone planning to beat their grand mothers because they have a 'jinn' in them needs to reconsider what religion they are following.

If 'black magic' exists, God has invented it in the first place. But no such thing exists.

The Atheist will automatically reject Islam if any of you spread this lie. You will be held accountable for misleading people.

I am no scholar, so read what S.sistani says

http://www.sistani.org/index.php?p=616687&id=1138

Question:

My wife fell into a deep coma. She was very healthy, and just carrying some water and then all of a sudden she collapsed while talking. She was rushed to the hospital immediately and it was found that her blood pressure was very low and due to this her brain did not receive oxygen for 2 hours. The doctors are unable to explain how she has fallen ill and I am also a doctor and also I can not explain how this has happened. Is she suffering from some sort of black magic?

Answer:

You must take her to a specialist. Do not engage your mind thinking about black magic or things like that. All things are in Allah's hand.

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Magic exist, and like u go to the Doctor for your physical ailments, you need to go to spiritual doctor for your spiritual ailments. However to find a bonafide spiritualist is hard work. Most tell you the problem but can not cure the problem. Bonafide spiritual healers can tell who done the evil magic on you but they usually don't and just give you hints if you persist wiv them.

I was effected by Black magic and Alhumdillah I'm cured as I managed to find the set of instructions in a dolls body burried in a grave, through the Spiritualist. If You get rid of the evil instructions the symptoms go. But if them symptoms have been with you for a while they usually leave damage and that's wen you need to cure them by going to a physical Dr. For every disease their is a cure.

Here is a very informative video on black magic/witchcraft by Sayed Ammar Nakshwani.

salaam

If you are in Pakistan, where are you located? where can I find that spirtual healer. can you contact me through PM or email.

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