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Abul Hussain Hassani

Ayatollah Shaykh Hossein Al-Mo'ed Becomes Sunni

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Shia Marja Ayatollah Shaykh Hossein al-Mo'ed converts to Sunni Islam:

Compare this man to Tijani

(Note: I am not using this video to prove that Sunni Islam is the true Islam).

Edited by Abul Hussain Hassani

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Salaam bro, I'm very interested in his arguments for this. Especially how he thinks about hadith thaqalayn and how he thinks about hadith of the 12 leaders...

Also I'd like to know his thinking on AbuBakr being the first caliph and not Ali...

Thanks.

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Oh this guy.. I don't know whether he's actually converted to being a full out Sunni now or not, but for a long time he's been someone who would be talking about Islamic "unity" and trying to defend the first three, condemning cursing, etc. If you go to his site he'll even say السيدة عائشة عليها السلام... So if he's finally jumped ship completely, it's hardly a shocker.

Is he actually a marja?

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Oh this guy.. I don't know whether he's actually converted to being a full out Sunni now or not, but for a long time he's been someone who would be talking about Islamic "unity" and trying to defend the first three, condemning cursing, etc. If you go to his site he'll even say السيدة عائشة عليها السلام... So if he's finally jumped ship completely, it's hardly a shocker.

So, he was a closeted Sunni?

Thank God his true nature is exposed. Good riddance.

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Oh this guy.. I don't know whether he's actually converted to being a full out Sunni now or not, but for a long time he's been someone who would be talking about Islamic "unity" and trying to defend the first three, condemning cursing, etc. If you go to his site he'll even say السيدة عائشة عليها السلام... So if he's finally jumped ship completely, it's hardly a shocker.

even ayatullah khamanei - i think - says we should not publically curse the first 3 or ayesha.

it's not allowed because of disunity.

i'm a shia btw

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even ayatullah khamanei - i think - says we should not publically curse the first 3 or ayesha.

it's not allowed because of disunity.

i'm a shia btw

First, not many agree with that view and even those who follow him would take that Fatwa with a pinch of salt and take it to mean, don't go out into the street and start cursing them and would find no problem in doing La'an (curse may not be the right translation) on them privately as our Hadith explicitly tell us to do Bara'ah with those who usurped the right of the Imams. Also, even if we agree with that Fatwa, not doing La'an and actually saying Alaihis Salam are two completely different things so don't extend his fatwa to mean even this!

By the way, Sheikh e Macci, can't you look up which scholar gave him the permission for Ijtihad?

Also, a side question that came to my mind, can the permission for Ijtihad be revoked?

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مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْحُسَيْنِ عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ أَبِي نَصْرٍ عَنْ دَاوُدَ بْنِ سِرْحَانَ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ص إِذَا رَأَيْتُمْ أَهْلَ الرَّيْبِ وَ الْبِدَعِ مِنْ بَعْدِي فَأَظْهِرُوا الْبَرَاءَةَ مِنْهُمْ وَ أَكْثِرُوا مِنْ سَبِّهِمْ وَ الْقَوْلَ فِيهِمْ وَ الْوَقِيعَةَ وَ بَاهِتُوهُمْ كَيْلَا يَطْمَعُوا فِي الْفَسَادِ فِي الْإِسْلَامِ وَ يَحْذَرَهُمُ النَّاسُ وَ لَا يَتَعَلَّمُوا مِنْ بِدَعِهِمْ يَكْتُبِ اللَّهُ لَكُمْ بِذَلِكَ الْحَسَنَاتِ وَ يَرْفَعْ لَكُمْ بِهِ الدَّرَجَاتِ فِي الْآخِرَةِ

The Messenger of Allah (saw) said: “When you will find people of bidah (innovation) and doubt after me, do barah from them and increase in your insults to them, and oppose (them) and bring evidences against them so they may not become greedy in bringing fasaad (corruption) to Islam. You must warn people against them and do not learn their bid`ah (innovation). Allah will write for you good rewards for this, and will raise you status in the next life".

Source: 1. Al-Kulayni, Al-Kafi, Vol. 2, Pg. 375, H # 4

Grading: Al-Majlisi said this hadeeth is Saheeh (Authentic) Mir’aat al-Uqool, vol. 11, pg. # 77

Edited by RevisitingTheSalaf

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No big deal. Shias become sunnis and sunnis become shias. What I'd be interested in though is for those who leave shiaism behind, what status do they now give the Imams of Ahlul-Bayt ie. are they demoted to be in line with sahaba or is it some kind of sufi belief in their superiority, and someone who is at that level (whether a marja or not he must have knowledge) would hopefully be able to reasonably explain what led to the change.

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(bismillah)

People should be aware of the perils of a neo-Batri belief set and where it leads to. Thank God for Rafd.

آمين آمين ، اللهم لا تخلّط فينا اهل البدعة واهل التقصير والبترية وقنا من ضلالتهم

Be warned of Salafi-style rijalism and Butriyya Unity.

في امان الله

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He was way more shia scholar than Tijani ever was a sunni scholar. It seems his mindset didn't accept the shia versions from quite long time, ultimately he thought it is better to exit. Anyhow, for me, the one fine convert from Shi'ism to Islam was Nawab Muhsin ul Mulk, one of the greatest Muslim politicians of India.

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The man is an expert on Shia Hadith sciences and is well read in Tashayyu`,

Those of you searching for his name in english won't find it, search for his name in Arabic:

المرجع حسين المؤيد

he is quite famous and has some works including his last book "Ithaf al-Sa'el" in which he announces his rejection of divine Imamah.

Arabic forums provide some documents about him and his status and his ijazat:

http://www.dd-sunnah...t=157036&page=2

Old image from him delivering a sermon in the shrine of "Sayyidah ma`soumah" in Qum:

image002.jpg

He is a apostate anyone who rejects the Kufar of the enemies of the Ahlulbayt (a.s) is in fact a Kafir. Sheikh Sadooq (r.a) has include it in his famous works.

But this means all non-Twelver Shia are Kouffar... none of them reject Abu Bakr and `Umar and `Uthman amd `Aisha ect...

Edited by Ali al Redah

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Anyhow, for me, the one fine convert from Shi'ism to Islam was Nawab Muhsin ul Mulk, one of the greatest Muslim politicians of India.

There is no such thing as Shi'ism. The brother you mentioned merely change Schools of Thought.

I find your post quite offensive. There is is only One Islam, you know that better than anyone else.

We wouldn't be divided like we are today if the people obey the Prophet's (sawa) command and followed the Qur'an & Ahlul Bayt (as). It would really be lovely to believe everyone loved each other and held hands singing songs... But no, history paints a different picture.

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We wouldn't be divided like we are today if the people obey the Prophet's (sawa) command and followed the Qur'an & Ahlul Bayt (as). It would really be lovely to believe everyone loved each other and held hands singing songs... But no, history paints a different picture.

History books are highly influenced by the interests of people, since there was no methodology till Ibn Khaldun regarding what is reliable and what is not. Ibn Khaldun was the first to describe few rules regarding it. And the historians never ever cared for authenticity of the information in their books. Read the introduction to the history of Tabari.

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History books are highly influenced by the interests of people, since there was no methodology till Ibn Khaldun regarding what is reliable and what is not. Ibn Khaldun was the first to describe few rules regarding it. And the historians never ever cared for authenticity of the information in their books. Read the introduction to the history of Tabari.

I know that. I wasn't talking shot history books. I was talking about historical facts.

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I know that. I wasn't talking shot history books. I was talking about historical facts.

In the historical facts, you will not be able to prove your point that they had hatred for eachother. Believe me. And by the way, when Quran says they had love for eachother, the history books and historical facts lose all their value, if they had any.

If you tell me that history says sahaba fought eachother, I will say that Moses (as) dragged Aaron (as) from his beard, and this is mentioned in Quran. Now you will reply with explanation to it, so will I reply to the reasons behind why fights occured between sahaba. There are things, which if outwardly seen do sensationalize the topics, but if carefully observed, you will find that the looking at just the outward does mislead people. And this is what happened with the Shias. By the way, I say this was not the only reason why shias were misguided, rather there was a high level of negative thinking involved in it as well, that lead to their misguidance.

Edited by kalaam

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