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Sunnis And Shias- Can We Just Unite...?

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10 minutes ago, power said:

Historically fitnah had begun soon  after Rauslillah  (pbuh@hf) demsie. And unfortunately it still rages on because  of what the fitnah mongers had started 1400 years ago. And as for unity, which branch of Sunnism are calling for unity?? For the 12vrs  unity is not a problem, It's more of a problem for the Sunnis. I strongly believe if any sect from sunnism call for unity they will be strongly reprimand by the other sects of Sunnis, They may denounce such sect from Sunni who want to unite with the Shia's.

For those who are calling for unity whether it be a Shia or a Sunni, what would be the basis of process of unity?? 

 

(6:57) Say: 'I take stand upon a clear evidence from my Lord and it is that which you have given the lie to. That which you desire to be hastened is not within my power. Judgement lies with Allah alone. He declares the Truth, and He is the best judge.'

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3 minutes ago, SunniBrother said:

(6:57) Say: 'I take stand upon a clear evidence from my Lord and it is that which you have given the lie to. That which you desire to be hastened is not within my power. Judgement lies with Allah alone. He declares the Truth, and He is the best judge.'

The basis is very evident and clear brothers. It is "Stand against the Enemy UNITED". Stand against the Imperialistic powers, Israel, America, Saudi Arabia, Britain and others who are creating a havoc for the Ummah.

Stand Together and fight them on all ground. Otherwise forget about the Reappearance of Imam Mahdi (ajfs) (as we Shias have a firm belief on this).

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31 minutes ago, SunniBrother said:

(2:141) They were a people who have passed away and they shall be repaid for what they earned and you for what you earn: you will not be questioned as to what they did.

Surah Ya Seen, Verse 12:
إِنَّا نَحْنُ نُحْيِي الْمَوْتَىٰ وَنَكْتُبُ مَا قَدَّمُوا وَآثَارَهُمْ وَكُلَّ شَيْءٍ أَحْصَيْنَاهُ فِي إِمَامٍ مُّبِينٍ

Surely We give life to the dead, and We write down what they have sent before and their footprints, and We have recorded everything in a clear writing.
(English - Shakir)

Following the footprints of those who err is not a good idea brother.

Edited by Salsabeel

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Having read all the comments, so far: I would say that Tolerance, as opposed to Persecution, is The Key, here! Despite the differences between Shia and Sunni: I still say that we should not be fighting! Because this is what Non-Muslims want us to do!

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1 hour ago, Waseem162 said:

Stand Together and fight them on all ground. Otherwise forget about the Reappearance of Imam Mahdi (ajfs) (as we Shias have a firm belief on this).

Can you explain from where you have brought this thing? Is the reappearance of Imam Mahdi (atfs) dependent upon unity with sunnis?

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34 minutes ago, Salsabeel said:

Surah Ya Seen, Verse 12:
إِنَّا نَحْنُ نُحْيِي الْمَوْتَىٰ وَنَكْتُبُ مَا قَدَّمُوا وَآثَارَهُمْ وَكُلَّ شَيْءٍ أَحْصَيْنَاهُ فِي إِمَامٍ مُّبِينٍ

Surely We give life to the dead, and We write down what they have sent before and their footprints, and We have recorded everything in a clear writing.
(English - Shakir)

Following the footprints of those who err is not a good idea brother.

Yes i agree

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1 minute ago, SunniBrother said:

Yes i agree

Then you also agree with the need of knowing those who do not err! 

And it also originates the need to know & keep in mind those who err in past so that we may not follow their footprints unknowingly.

And there has to be some protected ones who are protected by Allah & who do not err.

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1 hour ago, SunniBrother said:

(6:57) Say: 'I take stand upon a clear evidence from my Lord and it is that which you have given the lie to. That which you desire to be hastened is not within my power. Judgement lies with Allah alone. He declares the Truth, and He is the best judge.'

Relevance of this verse with unity?

 

1 hour ago, SunniBrother said:

(22:69) Allah will judge between you concerning that about which you differ".

Will Allah swt question those who are on haq?

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11 minutes ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Can you explain from where you have brought this thing? Is the reappearance of Imam Mahdi (atfs) dependent upon unity with sunnis?

Reappearance of Imam Mahdi depends upon the fight against oppression and the steadfastness of the entire Muslim Ummah to fight the oppressors together. Imam will not come just for Shias. He will come for the entire humanity especially for Muslim Ummah.

If you want to let go off the fight, then keep chilling on your sofa and keep praying for his (a.s) reappearance in your Salah without taking any fruitful social measure.

Unity within the Muslim Ummah is the solution to fight against all the Global Arrogant Powers, Once the Muslims are ready to fight against the oppressor under one Name, the Imam will come InshaAllah to guide us all to salvation.

This is what has been told to us by our Marajes. This is why they are calling for Unity. Its for Imam. Its for Salvation of Mankind.

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1 minute ago, Waseem162 said:

Reappearance of Imam Mahdi depends upon the fight against oppression and the steadfastness of the entire Muslim Ummah to fight the oppressors together. Imam will not come just for Shias. He will come for the entire humanity especially for Muslim Ummah.

If you want to let go off the fight, then keep chilling on your sofa and keep praying for his (a.s) reappearance in your Salah without taking any fruitful social measure.

Unity within the Muslim Ummah is the solution to fight against all the Global Arrogant Powers, Once the Muslims are ready to fight against the oppressor under one Name, the Imam will come InshaAllah to guide us all to salvation.

This is what has been told to us by our Marajes. This is why they are calling for Unity. Its for Imam. Its for Salvation of Mankind.

That's what I'm asking where did you brought this 'Unity is for reappearance of Imam Mahdi (atfs)' thing. Provide me with ahadith because you have made a big claim. 

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1 hour ago, SunniBrother said:

(2:141) They were a people who have passed away and they shall be repaid for what they earned and you for what you earn: you will not be questioned as to what they did.

Are you suggesting i shouldn't speak against the atrocities that was carried out by Yazeed (lan)? Or those criminals  who had killed the innocent Muslims? Is that what you are implying? 

Edited by power

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1 hour ago, Waseem162 said:

The basis is very evident and clear brothers. It is "Stand against the Enemy UNITED". Stand against the Imperialistic powers, Israel, America, Saudi Arabia, Britain and others who are creating a havoc for the Ummah.

What about the enemies of Ahlulbayt? What about the first people (i.e. "respected figures of sunni brothers,") who created havoc among the Ummah? Do we shut up about them for the sake of Unity?

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