Muslim Ummah Finally Converts To True Shia Islam

[Aabiss_Shakari]

(salam)

We Shias are recognized for 1400 years for protesting against the oppression on Ahl ul Bayt a.s in Karbala. We Shias believe that arresting the women of the holy household of Prophet (pbuh) and imprisoning them in dark jail by Yazeed was a blasphemous and insulting act done by Yazeed and his army and we protest against it with full zeal and passion. On the other hand our counterpart Sunnis have principle stand on it that these processions and protests are against Islam and innovations (biddahs). Some of the Sunnis like Salafis and Wahabis are too strict in their action against Shias that they consider it halal to kill Shias for doing all these activities. But after the release of blasphemous film by the damned American producer and actors, the Sunnis have literally converted to Shia. We saw huge processions against this blasphemous film. People were found wearing black cloths and black ribbons around their arms. Many people had black ribbons around their arms in protest against the film. Now is it not biddah? No this is not because they now have understood that protesting against oppression is part of Islam and sometime even obligatory. We saw that our Sunnis brothers went to strike in Pakistan on 21st day of September. I saw many Sunni brothers asking others to not to open shops and not do work on that day because a strike was announced and before them it was haram to work in that day. Amazingly, when Shia says that working for gain on the day of Ashura is haram because it is mournful day because the whole family of Prophet (pbuh) was slaughtered in Karbala by the tyrant army of Yazeed our Sunni fellows have objection on it and they call it a biddah.

I am happy that at last our Sunni fellows have understood the true spirit of Shia faith and finally have converted to Shia by accepting Shia customs and traditions.

[Sonador]

Did you witness Sunnis beating their chests, cutting their heads with knives, kissing the hooves of ponies in these protests?

[Rasul]

Did you witness Sunnis beating their chests, cutting their heads with knives, kissing the hooves of ponies in these protests?

But Aisha had no problem with beating her face - so why not?

[Queen Yoda]

But Aisha had no problem with beating her face - so why not?

As well as introducing the concept of adult breasting

[Hot hot]

Did you witness Sunnis beating their chests, cutting their heads with knives, kissing the hooves of ponies in these protests?

Jealousssyyyyyy

[Haydar Husayn]

Amazingly, when Shia says that working for gain on the day of Ashura is haram because it is mournful day because the whole family of Prophet was slaughtered in Karbala by the tyrant army of Yazeed our Sunni fellows have objection on it and they call it a biddah.

What is the proof that it is haram to work on Ashura?

[Hot hot]

Will you work on the funeral day of your father?^

[Haydar Husayn]

Will you work on the funeral day of your father?^

Just because something is distasteful, or disrespectful, it doesn't make it haram. In order to say something is haram, you would need to prove it from the Quran and ahadith, not just make it up.

[Hot hot]

Just because something is distasteful, or disrespectful, it doesn't make it haram. In order to say something is haram, you would need to prove it from the Quran and ahadith, not just make it up.

Yes or no

[Haydar Husayn]

Yes or no

No, but it's not haram if I do, as far as I know.

[Queen Yoda]

You know Im getting awfully suspicious of these people that call themselves Shia but dont display a Shia attitude...

[Hot hot]

No, but it's not haram if I do, as far as I know.

So ethically do you Beleive that we shouldn't go on aashoora ? Then why are you asking such a question?

It's haram and every earned penny of that day is haram because it's the day of martyrdom of imam Husain as and his companions and as his followers we should not make any money on that day as the people of Karbala was thirsty and hungry and were killed mercilessly on that day.

It's really shocking that you want a justified reason to shut your business that day wow even Sunnis over here shut their business

Edited September 25, 2012 by Hot hot

[Haydar Husayn]

So ethically do you Beleive that we shouldn't go on aashoora ? Then why are you asking such a question?

It's haram and every earned penny of that day is haram because it's the day of martyrdom of imam Husain as and his companions and as his followers we should not make any money on that day as the people of Karbala was thirsty and hungry and were killed mercilessly on that day.

It's really shocking that you want a justified reason to shut your business that day wow even Sunnis over here shut their business

Oh great. Another one who either doesn't understand English, or isn't capable of rational thought.

Let me break it down for you. There is a difference between saying something should be avoided, and saying it is haram. In order to say something is haram, you need proof. In other words, you at least need need a hadith from one of the Imams, telling you that to work on the day if Ashura is haram, or a fatwa from a marja saying the same thing. Otherwise, you are just making it up.

Now, and this is the point you don't seem to get, asking for proof for something being haram is not the same thing as asking for a reason not to work on Ashura. Obviously if any Shia can avoid it, he isn't going to work on that day. However, you can't go around saying things are haram without proof. If it in fact isn't haram, and you make it so, then this is bidah without a doubt.

You know Im getting awfully suspicious of these people that call themselves Shia but dont display a Shia attitude...

And what is a Shia attitude according to you? Responding to things emotionally rather than intellectually?

[Queen Yoda]

Oh great. Another one who either doesn't understand English, or isn't capable of rational thought.

Let me break it down for you. There is a difference between saying something should be avoided, and saying it is haram. In order to say something is haram, you need proof. In other words, you at least need need a hadith from one of the Imams, telling you that to work on the day if Ashura is haram, or a fatwa from a marja saying the same thing. Otherwise, you are just making it up.

Now, and this is the point you don't seem to get, asking for proof for something being haram is not the same thing as asking for a reason not to work on Ashura. Obviously if any Shia can avoid it, he isn't going to work on that day. However, you can't go around saying things are haram without proof. If it in fact isn't haram, and you make it so, then this is bidah without a doubt.

And what is a Shia attitude according to you? Responding to things emotionally rather than intellectually?

There is no danger of you responding emotionally to anything. Discussing Ashura is an emotional issue for Shias - maybe you should realise that.

[Haydar Husayn]

There is no danger of you responding emotionally to anything. Discussing Ashura is an emotional issue for Shias - maybe you should realise that.

Maybe you should realise that emotions have nothing to do with what is halal and haram.

[Hot hot]

Oh great. Another one who either doesn't understand English, or isn't capable of rational thought.

Let me break it down for you. There is a difference between saying something should be avoided, and saying it is haram. In order to say something is haram, you need proof. In other words, you at least need need a hadith from one of the Imams, telling you that to work on the day if Ashura is haram, or a fatwa from a marja saying the same thing. Otherwise, you are just making it up.

Now, and this is the point you don't seem to get, asking for proof for something being haram is not the same thing as asking for a reason not to work on Ashura. Obviously if any Shia can avoid it, he isn't going to work on that day. However, you can't go around saying things are haram without proof. If it in fact isn't haram, and you make it so, then this is bidah without a doubt.

And what is a Shia attitude according to you? Responding to things emotionally rather than intellectually?

what a sudden change in tone whoever you are learn how to talk about the noble day of aashoora or I know much more better language then you actually it's not your problem oftenly people like you say all this when something effects your pocket anyways who cares whether you go or not

[Queen Yoda]

Maybe you should realise that emotions have nothing to do with what is halal and haram.

You have completely missed the point - taking time off at Ashura is not a Halal/Haram issue.

[Haydar Husayn]

You have completely missed the point - taking time off at Ashura is not a Halal/Haram issue.

Tell it to the OP:

"Amazingly, when Shia says that working for gain on the day of Ashura is haram because it is mournful day because the whole family of Prophet was slaughtered in Karbala by the tyrant army of Yazeed our Sunni fellows have objection on it and they call it a biddah."

[Queen Yoda]

Tell it to the OP:

"Amazingly, when Shia says that working for gain on the day of Ashura is haram because it is mournful day because the whole family of Prophet was slaughtered in Karbala by the tyrant army of Yazeed our Sunni fellows have objection on it and they call it a biddah."

I never said you were wrong for saying it is a Halal/Haram issue - I just think you should show some sensitivity towards your fellow Shias especially concerning Ashura.

Now lets not argue between ourselves so people like sonador can get off on it. Shias need to stick together.

[Goswami]

mateen josh a former non muslim has converted to shia islam. watch him at youtube. how he tells his story of conversion plus he said that i found shia people more knowledgeable than sunni people. :D

[Vigilare]

You know Im getting awfully suspicious of these people that call themselves Shia but dont display a Shia attitude...

Followers of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) should focus on following their teachings rather than those introduced hundreds of years later by sectarian based Mullahs.

[Logic]

Just because something is distasteful, or disrespectful, it doesn't make it haram. In order to say something is haram, you would need to prove it from the Quran and ahadith, not just make it up.

The Attention - You crave it.

Edited October 8, 2012 by Logic