Ahlulbait (as) Don't Die

[muhibb-ali]

(bismillah)

Salam.

Here are a few narrations reported with Tawaatur (Frequently) which show that Prophet Muhammad (saww) and the Imam's (a.s) don't die like normal humans die and that they can be present in the world even after their death.

Narration:1

ÍÏËäÇ ãÚÇæíÉ Èä Íßíã Úä ÇáÍÓíä Èä Úáì ÇáæÔÇ Úä ÇÈì ÇáÍÓä ÇáÑÖÇ Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã ÞÇá ÞÇá áì ÈÎÑÇÓÇä ÑÇíÊ ÑÓæá Çááå Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå åíåäÇ æÇáÊÒãÊå.

It has been narrated to us from Muawiya Bin Hakeem, from Al-Husayn Bin Ali Al-Washa, who has said:

Abu Al-Hassan Al-Reza (a.s) said to me in Khurasan, "I saw the Messenger of Allah (saww) over here and offered my Salam to Him."

[source: Basaair Al-Darajaat, Vol. 6, Chapter. 5, Hadees.1]

Hadees is Authentic (Saheeh) as per chain of narrators.

Narration:2

ÍÏËäÇ ãÍãÏ Èä ÚíÓì Úä ãÍãÏ Èä ÓäÇä Úä ÚãÇÑ Èä ãÑæÇä Úä ÓãÇÚÉ ÞÇá ÏÎáÊ Úáì ÇÈì ÚÈÏ Çááå Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã æÇäÇ ÇÍÏË äÝÓí ÝÑÚÇäí ÝÞÇá ãÇáßÊÍÏË äÝÓß ÊÔÊåì Çä ÊÑì ÇÈÇ ÌÚÝÑ Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã ÞáÊ äÚã ÞÇá Þã ÝÇÏÎá ÇáÈíÊ ÝÅÐÇ åæ ÃÈæ ÌÚÝÑ Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã ÞÇá ÇÊì Þæã ãä ÇáÔíÚÉ ÇáÍÓä Èä ÚáìÚáíå ÇáÓáÇã ÈÚÏ ÞÊá ÇãíÑ ÇáãÄãäíä Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã ÝÓÃáæå ÞÇá ÊÚÑÝæä ÇãíÑ ÇáãÄãäíä Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã ÅÐÇ ÑÃíÊãæå ÞÇáæÇ äÚã ÞÇá ÝÇÑÝÚæÇ ÇáÓÊÑ ÝÑÝÚæå ÝÅÐÇ åã ÈÇãíÑ ÇáãÄãäíäÚáíå ÇáÓáÇã áÇ íäßÑæäå æÞÇá ÇãíÑ ÇáãÄãäíä Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã íãæÊ ãä ãÇÊ ãäÇ æáíÓ ÈãíÊ æíÈÞì ãä ÈÞì ãäÇ ÍÌÉ Úáíßã.

It has been narrated to us from Muhammad Bin Isa, from Muhammad Bin Sinan, from Amaar Bin Marwaan, from Sama’at who said:

"I came to Abu Abdullah (a.s) and I was talking to myself when He saw me. He said: ‘What is it with you? Would you like to see Abu Ja’far (a.s) ?"

I said, "Yes"

He said, "Get up". He made me to enter a room, and there was Abu Ja’far (a.s).

He said, "A group of Shiites came to Al-Hassan Bin Ali (a.s) after the killing of Amir-ul-Momineen (a.s) . He (a.s) asked them: 'Would you all recognize Amir-ul-Momineen (a.s) if you were to see Him?"

They said, "Yes"

Abu Ja’far (a.s) said, "Al-Hassan (a.s) raised the curtain, They all recognized that they were with Amir-ul-Momineen (a.s), they could not deny it, and Amir-ul-Momineen (a.s) said: 'When one of Us is dead, He is not dead, and when one of Us remains, the remaining One is a Proof on you all."

[source: Basaair Al-Darajaat, Vol. 6, Chapter. 5, Hadees.4]

The chain of narrators would not be a problem here as there are multiple narrations with the same meaning (Matn) and hence would be accepted due to the Tawaatur (frequency) of the narrations, which prove that the AhlulBait (a.s) do not die like we humans die and they are very much alive.

The last part of the above narration is also said by Imam Ali (a.s) in a sermon in Nahjul Balagha.

Úóäú ÎóÇÊóãö ÇáäóøÈöíöøíäó Õ Åöäóøåõ íóãõæÊõ ãóäú ãóÇÊó ãöäóøÇ æó áóíúÓó ÈöãóíöøÊò æó íóÈúáóì ãóäú Èóáöíó ãöäóøÇ æó áóíúÓó ÈöÈóÇá

"From the Last of the Prophets (saww) who said, "He who dies from among us is not dead and he who decays from among us does not really decay."

[source: Nahjul Balagha Sermon: 86/87]

Narration:3

ÍÏËäì ÇáÍÓíä Èä ãÍãÏ Èä ÚÇãÑ Úä ãÚáì Èä ãÍãÏ Èä ÚÈÏ Çááå Úä ÈÔíÑ Úä ÚËãÇä Èä ãÑæÇä Úä ÓãÇÚÉ Èä ãåÑÇä ÞÇá ÂäÊ ÚäÏ ÇÈì ÇáÍÓä Úáíå ÇáÓáÇãÝÇØáÊ ÇáÌáæÓ ÚäÏå ÝÞÇá ÇÊÍÈ Çä ÊÑì ÇÈÇ ÚÈÏ Çááå Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã ÝÞÇá æÏÏÊ æÇááå ÝÞÇá Þã æÇÏÎá Ðáß ÇáÈíÊ ÝÏÎáÊ ÇáÈíÊ ÝÅÐÇ åæ ÃÈæ ÚÈÏ Çááå ÕáæÇÊ ÇááåÚáíå ÞÇÚÏ.

It has been narrated to me Al-Husayn Bin Muhammad Bin Aamir, from Moala Bin Muhammad Bin Abdullah, from Bashir, from Usman Bin Marwan, from Sama’at Bin Mahran who said:

I was with Abu Al-Hassan (as). I extended my sitting with Him.

He said, "Would you love to see Abu Abdullah (as)?"

I said, "I wish I could, by Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì."

He said: "Get up and enter into that room."

I entered into the room, and there was Abu Abdullah (as) sitting.

[source: Basaair Al-Darajaat, Vol. 6, Chapter. 5, Hadees.8]

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There are many such narration in Vol. 6 Chapter 5 of "Basaair Al-Darajaat".

The following word of Ziyarat-e-Jamiya also prove that the status/position/authority of the Imam's (as) remain the same even after their passing away:

ÃóÔúåóÏõ Ãóäóø åóÐóÇ ÓóÇÈöÞñ áóßõãú ÝöíãóÇ ãóÖóì æóÌóÇÑò áóßõãú ÝöíãóÇ ÈóÞöíó

"I testify that was was said earlier is for you in the past and will continue to be for your in the future."

Wassalam

Edited August 30, 2012 by muhibb-ali

[Logical Islam]

"And Muhammad is no more than a messenger, the messengers have already passed away before him, if then he dies or is killed, will you turn back upon your heels? And whoever turns back upon his heels, he will by no means do harm to Allah in the least, and Allah will reward the grateful." Allah, the Great, has told the truth [Holy Qur'an 3:144]

I know i will be given a tasfeer and a totally different interpretation of this verse which will confuse me even more as to what God writes is even what he means.

Edited August 30, 2012 by Logical Islam

[Crimson]

Isn't there a verse in the Quran which says every creation will taste death?

[Logical Islam]

we are right on the need to follow the ahlul bayt to preserve the sunnah

but then, in my own eyes, we take it to an extreme