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Strange you mention women raping men. I used to think this was a myth, as how could a man involuntarily do that? (thought me), but i read an article today about a woman holding a man at knife point and making him do that 3 times (o.O) and he went to the police to get her arrested for it. Seems very strange though, as i would imagine that if you were scared for your life and in a very stressed and axnious state, you wouldnt be able to feel aroused enough to have the necessary bodily occurances...occur.

If you didnt want to change your looks you could make yourself stink instead. Or make sure not to have eye contact with women who look from a distance like they might be aggressively sexual.

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I did mention an injection. I'm told it eliminates all the theoretical problems you thought of. And I am serious. The stink of those pros could not be masked with soaps and deodorants. You're not thinking at the correct level.

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I was there for shopping necessary items. I hate shopping.

And, no thanks but I don't want to hide in jail for decades from globally sponsored brain washed throngs of Hinda+Zulaikha clones, nor am I anything at all like Prophet Yusuf (as) (or any other Prophet for that matter) in any way. Those ugly semi-nude organic machines with legs do not seek or fall for extraordinary beauty, I don't think so. My instinct told me that the semi-nude girl following us around was actually either from a financially mediocre family or, as a disturbingly large number of girls today, was indoctrinated and simply prowling for her next meal.

How are people unable to imagine the degenerated possibilities of today's rotten and collapsing society is beyond me. If you live in the West and you get to deal with such things so much that its trivial for you then thats understandable, and you have my pity. Me, I'm supposedly living in an Islamic republic, and things were never this bad in the past. Never thought they would be.

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Doesn't the word souq, as it was known to the Arabs, encompass more than just being "any shopping establishment."

Does it?

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So, I was in a big city of my former residence during these Eid holidays. Since some time I have been noticing how shamelessly many females stare at me. It gives me very dirty and repulsive sort of vibes. However, I was shocked to behold almost half naked females in the city when I went shopping. Its like females are OUT TO GRAB men for a number of reasons. Females' world population was 54% and rising as compared to men according to a survey some years ago. Then there's the materialism and other things from globalization. I have reports of young females (in "Muslim" families no less) going Hinda for fun. Because, lets face it, people don't believe in / won't wait for the afterlife. And reports of gang rape of men, including a man I know, who got lured into the trap and found a team of "Muslim" female students with some sort of injection ready for him. He was lucky to survive without much harm.

Anyway, in a shopping mall frequented by upper classes, I came across a scantly clad girl pushing her empty trolley and stalking me and my brother in law, as well as sales rep girls chatting us up too much, among others, even married ones who all had extremely shameless eyes, with faces and expressions that oddly remind of sex organs if you catch a glimpse, and that real dirty feeling of being in the vicinity of a (free) prostitute. I remembered this feeling from Cyprus, and it makes you feel icky, nausea and like taking a bath.

I don't want them to be able to stare at me and I want to cover my face. No, I don't think my little beard will help, and I don't want a big Jewish one or a caveman beard either. So either hijab or I should stay home and avoid big shopping centers of upper classes.

I realize that normal men are sitting on top a pile of dynamite here. There have been too many cases of false sexual harassment police cases here. When a woman goes to a police station after tearing up her own clothes and then blames a man who rejected her or who she wants revenge on for any reason for the deed. Its a alarming situation and all the madness is only going to increase exponentially as time passes according to my experience.

I think you need to stop watching so many horror movies..

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stay home, pretend ur married or in a deep relationship when some random chik comes to u and ofcourse if mutah is in ur dictionary. Get some mustahab points!

"There have been too many cases of false sexual harassment police cases here. When a woman goes to a police station after tearing up her own clothes and then blames a man who rejected her or who she wants revenge on for any reason for the deed. Its a alarming situation and all the madness is only going to increase exponentially as time passes according to my experience. "

Women in general like to run show. So hve ur own show ready. If she blames u, play it along. And the most important thing ever, get some good female friends .. ppl who can always back u up. while growin up in the west i hve always had more loyal and nice female friends than guy friends.

And no need for hijab. BE a MAN !

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The only nice and loyal female friends I have is my mother and my sisters. My wife might vouch for me too. But you're ignoring the 100% corrupt police and absence of a working justice system here. I got fined once for a small violation and being ignorant of its reality, I decided to plead not guilty. It cost me a small fortune in expenses (pay court staff (for nothing - all must pay), pay lawyer, pay lawyer's PA, pay for photocopies of latest proceedings, burn fuel to drive to court and attend so many times, leaves from work without salary, etc.) and about 30 months to finally win the case and that only after the judge got transferred away and a rookie boy judge took his place, finally heard us in full and gave the decision on the same day.

Seriously. Its just better to wear hijab with lots of improvised under paddings like pillows, and perhaps even a stink to deter throngs of materialistic secular-people-with-muslim-names interacting with whom only brings trouble. Especially strange women. They are already weak minded creatures. Then they are hyped too much and are used to attention and admiration. Then they are indoctrinated through globalization. Even a psychopathic niece of mine has a crush on me, for crying out loud. And if, heavens forbid, they choose to round up people instead of going to the police then I'll have to deal with a large angry mob of her "brothers" and "uncles".

I have made many predictions on SC before and they have come true, and I can tell now that this problem is going to get out of hand a hell lot sooner than we think. It'll be a part of the post-society-living-and-fine-zombie-apocalypse that is not far away now.

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Brother seriously i think your blowing things out of proportion. It all comes down to how you behave in public. Girls will only chat you up and stare shamelessly if you are giving them a chance to. Giving off vibes, or maybe even flirting with them. Do they stare at EVERY male or just you ?

I just think its funny because when i changed my attitude the way i dress, behave and look at people (from being a playboy to a "mo2min") i realised it all narrows down to your behavior !!!! If you wear muscle tight shirt and have your triceps bulging out, your hair gelled and wearing the latest of the latest, just go buy milk and maybe some noodles lol then dont be upset if you get girls looking at you, or even guys trying to fight you !

I personally found the best hijab for a male is his behavior and dress sense. You dont have to dress like a bum and you can still be neat without wearing latest of the latest. I dont know bro, i just think it all narrows down to YOU, because i found with my personal experience, when you ignore "them" they tend to ignore you too ...

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Its just that the young girls (and boys as well of course) being rolled out into the society these days have no sense of honor or shame and if you only observe their body language, expressions and behavior you can get easily disturbed if you're a conventional man living in an allegedly Islamic society. They're obviously Godless and believe in no-holds-barred for anything except self preservation. No, its not just me. I don't think I'm that special. I dress simply, not like a "cool dude" or a "handsome hunk" at all. I don't throw them bones either. Never have, never will. And thats also a reason to worry. Most people normally leave me be. No strangers ever attempt to provoke or confront me. I used to have long unruly hair and with my beard and looks people would get scared. I've never cared what people have to say or think about me either. But this "for sale" materialistic and secular behavior of females that I'm witnessing in a alarmingly increased frequency is something I find unacceptable.

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Brother seriously i think your blowing things out of proportion. It all comes down to how you behave in public. Girls will only chat you up and stare shamelessly if you are giving them a chance to. Giving off vibes, or maybe even flirting with them. Do they stare at EVERY male or just you ?

I just think its funny because when i changed my attitude the way i dress, behave and look at people (from being a playboy to a "mo2min") i realised it all narrows down to your behavior !!!! If you wear muscle tight shirt and have your triceps bulging out, your hair gelled and wearing the latest of the latest, just go buy milk and maybe some noodles lol then dont be upset if you get girls looking at you, or even guys trying to fight you !

I personally found the best hijab for a male is his behavior and dress sense. You dont have to dress like a bum and you can still be neat without wearing latest of the latest. I dont know bro, i just think it all narrows down to YOU, because i found with my personal experience, when you ignore "them" they tend to ignore you too ...

nice shot!

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Its just that the young girls (and boys as well of course) being rolled out into the society these days have no sense of honor or shame and if you only observe their body language, expressions and behavior you can get easily disturbed if you're a conventional man living in an allegedly Islamic society. They're obviously Godless and believe in no-holds-barred for anything except self preservation. No, its not just me. I don't think I'm that special. I dress simply, not like a "cool dude" or a "handsome hunk" at all. I don't throw them bones either. Never have, never will. And thats also a reason to worry. Most people normally leave me be. No strangers ever attempt to provoke or confront me. I used to have long unruly hair and with my beard and looks people would get scared. I've never cared what people have to say or think about me either. But this "for sale" materialistic and secular behavior of females that I'm witnessing in a alarmingly increased frequency is something I find unacceptable.

Yes brother but can you change it ? no you can not. Maybe you might be able to change one persons life and that may be enough for you to make a little difference in the world. Dont worry about the rest. Truth is bro your only noticing the females, because your interested in the females. Have you noticed how materialistic guys are these days ? how they are "for sale" and so forth ? Come on bro, the answer is simple

Ignore them and they will ignore you, when someone asks a question you answer it, if they want to know more you tell them more, if they dont listen then bad luck, just move on with your life. Unless your willing to become an assassin and take out all the head honchos in charge of hollywood, the media, the people in the drug trade, politicians, sex slavery, gambling, you name it what ever industry poisons society, then really you cant do much bro.

Just man up, get yourself a lady (or 4 if you can handle it), work hard, raise your kids so they dont become illusioned like the rest of society, then Inshallah if you do YOUR JOB and i do MY JOB and everyone on SC does THEIR JOB, then Inshallah we will have more then 313 people awaiting the Imam Mahdi a.s

As 2pac says in his long last words

1 n*gga teach 2 n*gga , 3 teach 4 n*ggas , and them n*ggas teach more n*ggas, and when we blast, it will the biggest blast you heard, and them is my last wordz !

nice shot!

why thank you lol

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Why are you guys handing out medals to each other by the way?

I did mention boys in that post you quoted. My target is our actually secular society. Our soulless and ritualized dedications. And our severely imbalanced and abominate cultural mutations. Its a delicate situation now the way. Its a result of our own doing. E.g., the way everyone has been feeding steroidal nourishments to things like feminism, eccentric rights etc. since many decades based on random reports of oppression towards them. We have drifted far, far away. Not every male or female are the same. Criticism doesn't necessarily mean hate. Its a disturbing and explosive mix accelerating unthinkably and we're all sitting on the top. In Japan, raping a woman is encouraged because their population is going down enough. What if tomorrow they say that its okay if a group of women rape a man. Because women are so extra special or different, although equal to men simultaneously somehow, and that there is also a new science discovery that says that its good for you. Anything goes.

For example, when you see a poster who is being stubborn, imbecile, a troll, with flawed reasoning, running amok, you think they're a troll, or atheist, or wahabi. I'm saying what if that person is only a member of the latest generation that can post. What if their brains have devolved and degenerated to that level? We're taking most things for granted.

No one on internet save real life friends and no one on SC know my true life identity because I like to remain anonymous. It benefits me greatly and I feel safe that way. Similarly, I feel I would be a lot less bothered in real life with a veil over my face. Secondly, I want to put all the modern secular scumbags to shame by doing THEIR job to fulfill the purpose of it.

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Its interesting you find it necessary to upset yourself with these thoughts. If youre serious they appear quite extreme in thier disturbance (unless youre exaggerating). Maybe you should try turning a few of them around, in my experience the majority of disturbance is happening within us as a product of our thinking, not an objective reality. You want to solve these 'problems', go to the ultimate source of your suffering - yourself - and stop telling yourself its about women who dont appear to you as you'd prefer. Changing that is hopeless, changing the way you think about it means you have a chance of ending it. Unless you have no interest in doing that.

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I can not allow predators or clowns around my children as they grow up watching them and possibly grow up to imitate or follow them under the illusion that its normal. I have numerous very natural reasons to be upset. Instead of wasting time trying to turn them, I would much rather very simply wear hijab in such places, and through that I'll put the better souls among them to shame and reflection, and make the wretched ones even more persistent by it. Any change as a result of that would feel like a victory to me.

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What if he was wearing green instead of black, had a beard, big eyes and "looked righteous" instead? Would that be called hijab as well? But what I want is a veil to cover my face - a proper sort of barrier for the sight, or hijab. Perhaps made of scalps sewn together to make it look masculine. :D

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I live near Lahore, Pakistan. You're right. Non-Muslim women (and men) must be generally a million times better in comparison for many reasons when it comes to such things. Since childhood, our men and women are "wanabe" western folk, who think it cool and wise and hip to imitate them and their ways but only end up becoming something revolting.

Kafir is always a lot better than Munafiq. That is what I like about Turkish people. No Munafiqs there. Only Kafir or Muslim. No claims no frauds and no reason to either.

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I live near Lahore, Pakistan. You're right. Non-Muslim women (and men) must be generally a million times better in comparison for many reasons when it comes to such things. Since childhood, our men and women are "wanabe" western folk, who think it cool and wise and hip to imitate them and their ways but only end up becoming something revolting.

Kafir is always a lot better than Munafiq. That is what I like about Turkish people. No Munafiqs there. Only Kafir or Muslim. No claims no frauds and no reason to either.

That explains everything....

Best of luck bro, but it hink you should be more worried about the taliban slaughtering shiites off a bus and blowing up local masjids, not how to stop women from looking at you, or sheilding your kids to the an extent that when they grow up they will NEVER know how to make decisions for themselves because daddy made all decisions for them

Salam bro

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DV bhai, that is some seriously immoral behaviour you're describing. I really don't know what to say. Though honestly, I haven't seen similar sort of behavior (from women) in Karachi, but the boys here are just as indecent as you think.

I just hope our children grow up in a better society than in which we live.

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Try going to a place like a new and hip huge multi-departmental store where they sell everything. Some place posh, perhaps in the cantonment, with the feeling of security and the right atmosphere and you'll be surprised about our women who can be just as indecent as those boys.

Only another intelligent parent can realize how concerning things are. I know about exploits of so many of my relatives, cousins, younglings (Seyyed + Shia) both men and women some of them who, even after marriage, are into all sorts of bad habits. All sorts we can think of even including pedophilia and bisexual activity. Boys and girls who became husbands, wives but are still at it. And it looks like now they just want to "taste" as many as they can, especially those they could never before. This one time I was at a gathering and in a semi-isolated place these four cousins of mine including three sisters, one married, and a married male cousin within a flash kissed each other and then one of them winked at me. I pretended as if I hadn't noticed, thanks to the night atmosphere. Some individuals do this as if its great thawab to spread this filth. They want everybody else to join in. Based on a lot of such experiences about the lower limit of people, I never ever let my children out of sight when any guests or relatives are about except a handful of trusted ones. I thank God for having kept me safe and pristine and I want my children saved as well.

Best of luck bro, but it hink you should be more worried about the taliban slaughtering shiites off a bus and blowing up local masjids, not how to stop women from looking at you

Thanks for your concern. This central Punjab area is among the safest in Pakistan. Moreover, God has granted me the means to not only protect myself but provide protection for others as well. So I took up the responsibility of organizing, planning and providing armed security with over a dozen to twenty other volunteer men under me each Muharram for our local community and whenever needed in between on specific dates when there are reports of threat. I always welcome and long for the highest honor of martyrdom though, and not afraid or concerned in that regard for my self.

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I can not allow predators or clowns around my children as they grow up watching them and possibly grow up to imitate or follow them under the illusion that its normal. I have numerous very natural reasons to be upset. Instead of wasting time trying to turn them, I would much rather very simply wear hijab in such places, and through that I'll put the better souls among them to shame and reflection, and make the wretched ones even more persistent by it. Any change as a result of that would feel like a victory to me.

When i said 'turn some around' i was refering to the statements youre making to yourself. Does calling people you know nothing about 'scumbag' make you feel like a good person? or does it make you feel more like a scumbag? the problem isnt them, the problem is your reaction to them, that is causing your suffering. Youre even inventing stories for your kids about how they'll be corrupted and living as if its true. This is insanity - youre arguing with reality (God). Do you think it shouldnt be this way? do you think people shouldnt be allowed to behave the way they do? do you think Gods creation is anything less than perfect? its perfect that they make theese decisions, how could they not? theyre living in their reality just like youre living in yours, except youre all in their business, making it all about them when your problems are all about you. Dont you see other ppl living int he same circumstances as you and not suffering like you do? raising healthy kids with smart heads on their shoulders? would you take your kids tests away from them? do you even think thats possible?

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I found your comment about how the population of women is growing interesting. I was reading about the time before and during imam Mahdi's rule and found this Hadith

The Messenger of Allah (S) said: “One of the signs of the Day of Resurrection is the decrease in the number of men and the increase in the number of women to such an extent that there will be one guardian for every fifty women.”[53]

[53] Tayalisi, Musnad, vol. 8, p. 266; Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Musnad, vol. 3, p. 120; Tirmidhi, Sunan, vol. 4, p. 491; Abu Ya‘li, Musnad, vol. 5, p. 283; Hilyah al-Awliya’, vol. 6, p. 280; Dala’il an-Nubuwwah, vol. 6, p. 543; Ad-Durr al-Manthur, vol. 6, p. 50.

http://www.al-islam.org/an-overview-of-mahdis-government-najimuddin-tabasi/7.htm

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When i said 'turn some around' i was refering to the statements youre making to yourself. Does calling people you know nothing about 'scumbag' make you feel like a good person? or does it make you feel more like a scumbag? the problem isnt them, the problem is your reaction to them, that is causing your suffering. Youre even inventing stories for your kids about how they'll be corrupted and living as if its true. This is insanity - youre arguing with reality (God). Do you think it shouldnt be this way? do you think people shouldnt be allowed to behave the way they do? do you think Gods creation is anything less than perfect? its perfect that they make theese decisions, how could they not? theyre living in their reality just like youre living in yours, except youre all in their business, making it all about them when your problems are all about you. Dont you see other ppl living int he same circumstances as you and not suffering like you do? raising healthy kids with smart heads on their shoulders? would you take your kids tests away from them? do you even think thats possible?

Sister its not about feeling good or feeding my emotions. There also exist other more evolved thought and feelings in peoples minds. As for scumbags, you know they don't need to paint themselves red with a sign over their forehead. Some things are obvious and clear enough sometimes. Funny, you think the problem lies with me while I haven't changed and its the changed secular Godless people increasing in number that alarms me.

As for kids, I've seen a lot of kids grow up and change to know better. How do you suppose globalization has over the decades changed too many morals, culture and values generation after generation. I can't but intervene when it comes to my kids because I happen to believe in accountability. I can't simply standby and let them decide in their teens to become servants of the devil, selling themselves freely on malls and in colleges, wearing the clothes of my traditional enemy, eating the junk they eat, and living a pointless life just for the sake of living. No believer or intelligent parent concerned for their future would like to see their kids take that route. Because that leads to the recycle bin. Through the history of mankind nothing good has ever come out of honorless garbage people with no integrity, characters or values to believe in. And no celebrities, pop stars and the likes don't stand out, not in history books. They're simply the surface of the heap of garbage. By educating them and eliminating the active intervention of evil people like child molesters, barbies and kens and what not, and early warning, I intend to make the learning process and the test easier for my children. Why does that need to be explained if you're also a believer.

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Sister its not about feeling good or feeding my emotions.

Please explain

There also exist other more evolved thought and feelings in peoples minds.

please explain

As for scumbags, you know they don't need to paint themselves red with a sign over their forehead. Some things are obvious and clear enough sometimes.

When you have your story about them, yes.

Funny, you think the problem lies with me while I haven't changed and its the changed secular Godless people increasing in number that alarms me.

So you dont change, have never changed? secular godless people are increasing in number? how do you know that? do you have the graphs? its funny, i thought this sort of information was Gods business.

As for kids, I've seen a lot of kids grow up and change to know better. How do you suppose globalization has over the decades changed too many morals, culture and values generation after generation.

and globalisation is changing morals...is that true? do different morals exist now than have ever existed? has globalisation invented new morals or have the same morals that have always existed exist now? and changing...for better/for worse, how can you make that judgement when theyre changing? how do you know that globalisation wont create better morals in a little while, if its affecting them at all? and with regards to who has the best morals, who has the worst, how would we know? we act according to our understanding and if our understanding is confused or we have limited understanding how can we do differently to what we're doing? instead you project a story about who they are, what they know and what they should be doing...who needs free will when we have you to tell us all what we should be thinking, how we should be acting etc, Quran is a book of guidence for everyone who can experience it, but maybe you should concern yourself with what Gods telling you about reality or truth through your own experience first before you try and usurp his position. That just a suggestion.

In terms of those % how would we know unless we're God? you seem to be making alot of assumpions here and making them very rigid, as if theyre facts, as if you really have all the information needed to make the final judgement, putting God right out of a job now.

I can't but intervene when it comes to my kids because I happen to believe in accountability. I can't simply standby and let them decide in their teens to become servants of the devil, selling themselves freely on malls and in colleges, wearing the clothes of my traditional enemy, eating the junk they eat, and living a pointless life just for the sake of living.

Yes, you'll teach them what you think is right, like everyone else does, and they'll go out and find out for themselves to see if they believe what youve taught them is true. Or do you intend to try and take that away from them too? would you prefer they be completely impaired and unable to think and act for themselves so you can make this easier on yourself? or would you rather they have every opportunity to decide for them selves and actually own it and receive any instruction or reward from that? would you take their rewards away also? you want to limit their chances to receive them it seems.

No believer or intelligent parent concerned for their future would like to see their kids take that route. Because that leads to the recycle bin. Through the history of mankind nothing good has ever come out of honorless garbage people with no integrity, characters or values to believe in. And no celebrities, pop stars and the likes don't stand out, not in history books. They're simply the surface of the heap of garbage. By educating them and eliminating the active intervention of evil people like child molesters, barbies and kens and what not, and early warning,

Thats a fabulous story, but how is it helping you? does it help you to be a kind person? to see the beauty of God perfection? to distract yourself? to be self righteous? what ever the truth of that is, maybe this is what you teach your kids.

I intend to make the learning process and the test easier for my children. Why does that need to be explained if you're also a believer.

and you could be the biggest test they ever face. But i understand, we all run on these fears we create, me too. Im a believer yes, just like you. I believe my stories too.

BTW, im not trying to convince you that these opinions you have arent true, im just asking if youve really investigated whether they are or not, have you investigated how some of these thoughts serve you, for better or worse, and whether or not its the way they serve you that is making them stick, rather than their veracity. Just an investigation.

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Salam brother, if you wear for example more modest clothing that is suitable for a man,it is forbidden for men to dress like women and niqab and face coverings are for women not men, unless to protect your face in a sandy desert storm or something, by wearing a turban and wrapping the left over peice of material over the face, but in Lahore I am not sure you would need to do that. I think partly you are being paranoid and partly you are experiencing something that is true, have you tried visiting some nearby cities in Pakistan where you could see how things are and whether it is any better, and maybe you could move there? on of the contributers to this thread has said that they live in Karachi, and as a shia this might be even better for you with the higher shia population there. Failing this, maybe you could learn farsi or arabic and go and live in Qum in Iran or Najaf in Iraq, which are religious and shia places, and although things are not perfect there, they are much less secular so you may find it easier. I don't think you should cover in hijab/niqab, as like I said, this is the dress of women, just adhere to the Islamic requirements of modesty in behaviour and dress and do your best, try and travel out and about with your wife and/or other female relatives, such as your mum.. Also, by covering yourself to such an extent, you could be mistaken for a transexual and I am sure you don't want that! Maybe you could wear one of those face masks like what they wear in china or japan in order to help stop them breathing polution etc? and just always wear loose clothing(I hate when men wear tight shirts and jeans etc, it is so inappropriate) and do not even look at women at all(sounds like you at least had a glimpse in order to even see these immodest women) and like others have said, only go shopping when you absolutely need to, as for more luxury items from large modern malls, how about online shopping? or go to another mall in another city where this isn't as much of a problem? for most food shopping the markets are probably better(I understand that these are mostly frequented by men and older married women?) There are so many ways you can deal with this without going to haram ghulat(extreme) of wearing a face veil that is traditionally associated with women. I hope Pakistan is not in as bad of a moral state as you are making out, and that this staring is not as widespread and open as you say. I also hope inshallah that your family is not as bad as you say with all this haram and evil things(especially the sexual immorality) are not as strong as you say it is. I hope too that you are trying to prevent other people and particularly other people's children from being harmed by the known peodophiles in your family. Is peodophilia illegal in Pakistan? if so you should report them for that, as for seeing married people kissing each other I am not sure Islamically whether you should tell their spouses or whether that is a criminal offense in Pakistan and that you could report them. It sounds like Pakistan is completely out of control.... I sure hope not

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