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The Exorcism of Emily Rose (2005) - Your sister in faith recommended it. Thanks to her. It's a good horror movie to watch. Except that with events in this movie told as a 'true story', it sounds more like a believer's attempt to prove the truth of Christianity. Still, my like-o-meter rating 6/10.

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The Exorcism of Emily Rose (2005) - Your sister in faith recommended it. Thanks to her. It's a good horror movie to watch. Except that with events in this movie told as a 'true story', it sounds more like a believer's attempt to prove the truth of Christianity. Still, my like-o-meter rating 6/10.

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That is based on a true story. Loosely. A case of a woman named Anneliese Michel. I have heard recordings from the sessions. I know of an exorcist who has written a book on it (in Espanol). It was very controversial because she died during the course of the exorcism. The accusation was made that had she eaten or taken water only a few hours prior she would have lived. Her mouth ulcerated from malnutrition or dehydration.

That she died to me almost alone proves it a mistaken case of mental disorder. The things that have occurred in authentic cases, the things that have come out of them or that have been done to the body by the demons and yet they still lived. Most exorcists do not stop irrespective of how horrifically they contort the body or the things they make it do; turn colour, weigh more [sink into the mattress and bend the solid iron bed-frame as an actual example], dislocate parts, make others protrude and ectera. But there is much more to it to than that. There is actually a more accurate German-language film that portrays her story without the context of the postmortem court-battle.

You know, the film the Exorcist is based on two authentic cases that occurred in the United States in the twentieth century? One involving a fourteen year old boy in St. Louis. I have heard one of the Jesuits (a professor at the local university) who performed the exorcism speak about it. The other involved a woman. I am pretty certain the film (or the novel) is based in large measure on this case, but it is never said. A holy man, a Capuchin did it. It is by far the worst case I have ever heard of. Twenty two days. The things that occurred. It was done at a convent. The nuns moved after it was finished. It was also the strongest demon I have ever heard to possess a person. It was the second time I had heard of this demon possessing someone.

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That is based on a true story. Loosely. A case of a woman named Anneliese Michel. I have heard recordings from the sessions. I know of an exorcist who has written a book on it (in Espanol). It was very controversial because she died during the course of the exorcism. The accusation was made that had she eaten or taken water only a few hours prior she would have lived. Her mouth ulcerated from malnutrition or dehydration.

That she died to me almost alone proves it a mistaken case of mental disorder. The things that have occurred in authentic cases, the things that have come out of them or that have been done to the body by the demons and yet they still lived. Most exorcists do not stop irrespective of how horrifically they contort the body or the things they make it do; turn colour, weigh more [sink into the mattress and bend the solid iron bed-frame as an actual example], dislocate parts, make others protrude and ectera. But there is much more to it to than that. There is actually a more accurate German-language film that portrays her story without the context of the postmortem court-battle.

You know, the film the Exorcist is based on two authentic cases that occurred in the United States in the twentieth century? One involving a fourteen year old boy in St. Louis. I have heard one of the Jesuits (a professor at the local university) who performed the exorcism speak about it. The other involved a woman. I am pretty certain the film (or the novel) is based in large measure on this case, but it is never said. A holy man, a Capuchin did it. It is by far the worst case I have ever heard of. Twenty two days. The things that occurred. It was done at a convent. The nuns moved after it was finished. It was also the strongest demon I have ever heard to possess a person. It was the second time I had heard of this demon possessing someone.

Is it true that the voice of the possessed changes? Also are they able to perform telekinesis as it shows in the movies? I actually know someone who lived in an apartment that they believe was haunted with something evil......her husband always woke up with scratches and she did a few times too.Were these scratches a precursor to possession or just a way for the demon or sinister spirit to chase the couple out of its territory? Also how does a demon go about possessing someone? Is everyone vulnerable or just certain people?

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Is it true that the voice of the possessed changes? Also are they able to perform telekinesis as it shows in the movies? I actually know someone who lived in an apartment that they believe was haunted with something evil......her husband always woke up with scratches and she did a few times too.Were these scratches a precursor to possession or just a way for the demon or sinister spirit to chase the couple out of its territory? Also how does a demon go about possessing someone? Is everyone vulnerable or just certain people?

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That is based on a true story. Loosely. A case of a woman named Anneliese Michel. I have heard recordings from the sessions. I know of an exorcist who has written a book on it (in Espanol). It was very controversial because she died during the course of the exorcism. The accusation was made that had she eaten or taken water only a few hours prior she would have lived. Her mouth ulcerated from malnutrition or dehydration.

That she died to me almost alone proves it a mistaken case of mental disorder. The things that have occurred in authentic cases, the things that have come out of them or that have been done to the body by the demons and yet they still lived. Most exorcists do not stop irrespective of how horrifically they contort the body or the things they make it do; turn colour, weigh more [sink into the mattress and bend the solid iron bed-frame as an actual example], dislocate parts, make others protrude and ectera. But there is much more to it to than that. There is actually a more accurate German-language film that portrays her story without the context of the postmortem court-battle.

You know, the film the Exorcist is based on two authentic cases that occurred in the United States in the twentieth century? One involving a fourteen year old boy in St. Louis. I have heard one of the Jesuits (a professor at the local university) who performed the exorcism speak about it. The other involved a woman. I am pretty certain the film (or the novel) is based in large measure on this case, but it is never said. A holy man, a Capuchin did it. It is by far the worst case I have ever heard of. Twenty two days. The things that occurred. It was done at a convent. The nuns moved after it was finished. It was also the strongest demon I have ever heard to possess a person. It was the second time I had heard of this demon possessing someone.

Is it true that the voice of the possessed changes? Also are they able to perform telekinesis as it shows in the movies? I actually know someone who lived in an apartment that they believe was haunted with something evil......her husband always woke up with scratches and she did a few times too.Were these scratches a precursor to possession or just a way for the demon or sinister spirit to chase the couple out of its territory? Also how does a demon go about possessing someone? Is everyone vulnerable or just certain people?

@ Servidor, thanks for the interesting post. Besides where to find that German movie on the web, could you please be able to name the film and any English subtitles that may come with it?

@ ImAli, The following may interest you, and Servidor too.

I am witness to only one such alleged case of possession. The story that went around coupled with what I saw spooked me as a kid. It was my nanny who worked for our family since I was born till I was in early teens. She would exhibit three classic symptoms of demonic possession. 1) Change of voice, 2) display of extraordinary physical power and 3) taking on another persona.

Once in a while she would get sick with high fever and than speak in a rather manly voice, not like those double-toned voices you hear in movies, but with a grave man-like voice. It was also very difficult to control her physically. I never touched her in that state but those who did said that her grips feels like that of a wrestler. She was not particularly violent towards people nearby in that state but would speak as if in delusion, sometimes thinking of her as a gardener, and sometimes the king of the land.

She was never allowed to cook meat. It was rumoured that she immediately got those 'possession attacks' if she cooked any food involving meat and that the cooked meat would become sugar sweet if she did. Again, I never had a chance to eat her 'sweet meat'. But when things like this happen, many made up stories float around.

Having said that, I still think it was a case of some mental illness which could be explained in mundane terms without evoking the supernatural. The signs and symptoms exhibited by 'possessed' individuals are remarkably similar regardless of the religion/spiritual tradition they adhere to, which leads me to believe that it is a common mental/psychological problem across the human spectrum.

I have nothing to believe that demons, or whatever, are actually capable of 'entering' (so to speak) the body of a living human and taking charge of it, or possessing it, as the term is used. You may experience something supernatural in your life, but are there any demonic or Satanic forces, witches or jinns, souls of the wretched or those of the condemned, or any such sinister forces, with powers to actually enter and take charge of human body? Nope.

My nanny still lives but she still doesn't cook meat lol. But she is fine. Oh and for all those years she raised me, her "demon" never said anything to me :donno:

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Watched these over the few days..errm..nights.

Argo (2012) - A good movie, but with a lot of political hype, about the Iranian hostage drama in 1979/80. Rating: 7/10

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The Ninth Gate (1999) - A horror movie but without blood, gore and horrible looking demons. It's a quest of some collectors of rare supernatural texts bent on finding the puzzle to a rare treatise written in the 17th century whose 3 copies survive only. Excellent movie 9/10.

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Robin Hood (2010) - Based on the legend of the same name. Good movie to watch, like other good ones set in medieval Europe, like the famous Braveheart, albeit nothing remarkable about it. However Russel Crowe has been great. But this movie is a murder of historical accuracy, not least because Robin Hood is a legend more than one real man. There is no consensus among historians about who the real Robin was. 5/10.

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@ Servidor, thanks for the interesting post. Besides where to find that German movie on the web, could you please be able to name the film and any English subtitles that may come with it?

@ ImAli, The following may interest you, and Servidor too.

I am witness to only one such alleged case of possession. The story that went around coupled with what I saw spooked me as a kid. It was my nanny who worked for our family since I was born till I was in early teens. She would exhibit three classic symptoms of demonic possession. 1) Change of voice, 2) display of extraordinary physical power and 3) taking on another persona.

Once in a while she would get sick with high fever and than speak in a rather manly voice, not like those double-toned voices you hear in movies, but with a grave man-like voice. It was also very difficult to control her physically. I never touched her in that state but those who did said that her grips feels like that of a wrestler. She was not particularly violent towards people nearby in that state but would speak as if in delusion, sometimes thinking of her as a gardener, and sometimes the king of the land.

She was never allowed to cook meat. It was rumoured that she immediately got those 'possession attacks' if she cooked any food involving meat and that the cooked meat would become sugar sweet if she did. Again, I never had a chance to eat her 'sweet meat'. But when things like this happen, many made up stories float around.

Having said that, I still think it was a case of some mental illness which could be explained in mundane terms without evoking the supernatural. The signs and symptoms exhibited by 'possessed' individuals are remarkably similar regardless of the religion/spiritual tradition they adhere to, which leads me to believe that it is a common mental/psychological problem across the human spectrum.

I have nothing to believe that demons, or whatever, are actually capable of 'entering' (so to speak) the body of a living human and taking charge of it, or possessing it, as the term is used. You may experience something supernatural in your life, but are there any demonic or Satanic forces, witches or jinns, souls of the wretched or those of the condemned, or any such sinister forces, with powers to actually enter and take charge of human body? Nope.

My nanny still lives but she still doesn't cook meat lol. But she is fine. Oh and for all those years she raised me, her "demon" never said anything to me :donno:

I am not going to make any posts in detail on this. I will not therefore get into an argument over whether there is such a thing as diabolical possession at all either. I shall only say that with what I know - the fall-back position of "O there just must a priori be some unknown perfectly naturalstic cause of all this." requires a superior quality of credulity than belief in demons and also misunderstands what talk of natural laws actually involves.

I add as well that, as I stated once elsewhere, in cases of less vehement possession (for with vehement possession there just is no natural explanation for what occurs; there is not) both a physical and a psychological examination are mandatory before the bishop can authorize an exorcism. No exorcism in such cases proceeds without a qualified psychologist stating very clearly that in their professional opinion the person is compos mentis.

That it is common across peoples and regions does not prove it is therefore merely human. The exact opposite follows. It is the classic argument from consensus. Demons are ubiquitous in human experience (regionally and historically). So too is possession. It means demons are everywhere.

If you tell me the name of your nanny, I can pray for her.

The name of the film is Requiem. If you buy it from English-language Amazon, it will have English subtitles. It is again based on the case of Anneliese Michel and while more accurate in basic detail, the writer/s are of the opinion that she suffered from epilepsy coupled with guilt (if my memory serves) and Catholic bias. It is therefore not a horror film. I doubt you will like it.

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This is the last film I watched. Most recently. Today.

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Agora (2009) - A biopic of Hypatia, the first noted female mathematician and philosopher of classical antiquity. It's set in Roman province of Egypt. Once a banned cult, Christianity has become state religion and the paganism is on the decline. Much unrest ensues and the woman who stood for rationality and logic loses the battle against rising Christian dogma. This film is loyal to history and a very good watch for all those who like historical epics. (Please beware of some unnecessary nudity). 8/10

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A Dangerous Method (2012) - Based on a true story. It's about Sigmund Freud, the pioneer psychoanalyst, and his associate Carl Jung, who differed with Freud on the psychology of the unconscious. It involves a patient of Carl Jung's, who herself went on to become a fine psychoanalyst and who Jung had a romantic heist with. The film starts well but then loses it's plot around the middle. It's slow and intense. Not everyone's cup of tea. 6/10

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No it is not.

It's a relative thing. No dramatization is completely accurate. Movies do have a license to take liberty with details for the sake of drama and plot.

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I award this movie a 4/10. Do not ask me for a synopsis cz I ain't writing it.

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You gotta watch it on High Definition to appreciate the full extent of the visuals, which, as a Tim Burton work, is an integral part of the film. Just like Sweeney Todd was useless without its music and darkness.

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You gotta watch it on High Definition to appreciate the full extent of the visuals, which, as a Tim Burton work, is an integral part of the film. Just like Sweeney Todd was useless without its music and darkness.

I know what you mean but for me I don't know I was waiting for a "Wow factor" which did not happen.Was waitng for this movie in anticipation beacuse the trailer was exquisite. I did like the part when there is a fight between Mr.President and the vamps on the phony train with no silver. :D BOOO YAAA to the vamps. :D

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CM, thank you for the link to the site with lots of documentaries challenging the conventions. You are great!!

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I am watching Defamation by Yoav Shamir. It is quite like how Norman Finklestein wrote a book called "Holocaust Industry" detailing the abuse for political gain of the pain and suffering of so many who perished at the hands of the Nazis.

"What is anti-Semitism today?" Is it a real and continuous danger that requires eternal vigilance or a tactic used by right-wing Zionists to discredit and cow their critics?
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Nicija zemlja (No Man's Land) 2001 - It's a war drama by Bosnian director Danis Tanovic. It's set in Bosnia during the war of the 90s. Three soldiers, two Bosnian and other Serb are trapped in no man's land while neither side will allow the other to come and rescue them. Their problem is compounded as one of the injured Bosnian soldier is lying on a mine and it will explode if he moves. It's not full of action and doesn't have a convoluted plot if that's what you're looking for. Nonetheless, it's one of the most excellent war dramas I have seen. At times ridiculous and at times tragic, this film highlights just how the ultimate victim of war is humanity itself. 9/10 I must.

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Ararat (2001) - A group of Armenian-Canadians are making a fictionalised film to highlight the tragedy of Armenian genocide in 1915 which Turkey continues to deny to this day. In doing so their current problems come on the surface and they realise how deeply the Armenian tragedy affects them even to this day. The film drags and gets dull at too many places, especially the dialogue between the Canadian immigration officer and one of the characters is unreal. 5/10.

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Elizabeth - The Golden Age

Is that about the first one right? They also made a biopic for the current one in which she's played by Helen Mirren. Haven't had a chane to watch the latter though.

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Is that about the first one right? They also made a biopic for the current one in which she's played by Helen Mirren. Haven't had a chane to watch the latter though.

This one was with Cate Blanchett, very beautiful made movie. Yeah, the first Queen, the 'Virgin Queen'. Man, I was so impressed. Unfortunately I tuned in half way. Great plot, and great story. I'll try to watch the one with Helen Mirren from the start inshaAllah!

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Lakposhta parvaz mikonand (Turtles can fly)

Set in Ghobadi's native Kurdistan, close to the Turkey-Iran border. Soran is a 13-year-old boy who orders other children around as he installs an antenna for villagers keen to hear of Saddam's fall. Eventually, he falls for Agrin but is disturbed by her brother Henkov, who was left armless after he stepped on a landmine and who can now seemingly predict the future.

Really liked this movie, saw it a few years ago. Left me in tears.

http://youtu.be/ujnRHYERWOE

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Nicija zemlja (No Man's Land) 2001 - It's a war drama by Bosnian director Danis Tanovic. It's set in Bosnia during the war of the 90s. Three soldiers, two Bosnian and other Serb are trapped in no man's land while neither side will allow the other to come and rescue them. Their problem is compounded as one of the injured Bosnian soldier is lying on a mine and it will explode if he moves. It's not full of action and doesn't have a convoluted plot if that's what you're looking for. Nonetheless, it's one of the most excellent war dramas I have seen. At times ridiculous and at times tragic, this film highlights just how the ultimate victim of war is humanity itself. 9/10 I must.

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Good.

There is another film about a true story that you should watch. I have forgotten his name though. I am the worst for names at the best of times and I am not Serbian. :donno: His friend and neighbor was a Bosnian Muslim. He served in the Serbian army during the three way war [Croatia/Bosnia/Serbia]. When some Serbian soldiers rounded up villagers and found out that this one man, his friend, was Bosnian - they began to beat him. He stepped up and stepped in to stop them. They beat him so badly he died of his wounds. The Bosnian survived.

There is another one where a young girl [serbian] finds out her father was not killed fighting courageously in the war because she does not get a special discount on a field trip that other children got whose fathers did. She finds out her mother was raped during the war and she would not abort her.

I know a man who is in the desert in Egypt living in a cave who was there by sheer chance when the war broke out. He is from Australia. He was staying at a monastery in Serbia. "I came to see Orthodoxy not a war." He has many stories.

There are still some places in Eastern Europe that make the Middle East look like child's play.

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Robin Hood (2010) - Based on the legend of the same name. Good movie to watch, like other good ones set in medieval Europe, like the famous Braveheart, albeit nothing remarkable about it. However Russel Crowe has been great. But this movie is a murder of historical accuracy, not least because Robin Hood is a legend more than one real man. There is no consensus among historians about who the real Robin was. 5/10.

5/10 coming from you is still disturbing. It should be 4 or below. I've watched all Robin Hood movies, cartoons and what not and what this movie was is an insult in comparison, to both Robin Hood and Ridley Scott himself.

Erm, now, what I watched recently:

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(Thriller / Sci-Fi / Horror -- my rating is 7/10)

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Good.

There is another film about a true story that you should watch. I have forgotten his name though. I am the worst for names at the best of times and I am not Serbian. :donno: His friend and neighbor was a Bosnian Muslim. He served in the Serbian army during the three way war [Croatia/Bosnia/Serbia]. When some Serbian soldiers rounded up villagers and found out that this one man, his friend, was Bosnian - they began to beat him. He stepped up and stepped in to stop them. They beat him so badly he died of his wounds. The Bosnian survived.

There is another one where a young girl [serbian] finds out her father was not killed fighting courageously in the war because she does not get a special discount on a field trip that other children got whose fathers did. She finds out her mother was raped during the war and she would not abort her.

Thank you. It would be great if you could hunt down names. These sound very interesting. I'd love to watch them.

I know a man who is in the desert in Egypt living in a cave who was there by sheer chance when the war broke out. He is from Australia. He was staying at a monastery in Serbia. "I came to see Orthodoxy not a war." He has many stories.

What does it mean to see Orthodoxy? Would you please elaborate?

There are still some places in Eastern Europe that make the Middle East look like child's play.

I did not realise that until recently when I travelled in Eastern Europe and then went on a reading binge about that part of the world. And I haven't even been to the Balkans yet! Talking of which, I am reminded of a very good movie I watched not so long ago. Despite my criticisms of the underlying assumptions about the Balkans this movie perpetuates, I regard it as a mandatory watch to get an idea of how nearly impossible it is to stop the most violent human abuse when it is patronised by those in power, which is, sadly, the story of the Balkan countries.

What gives credibility to this movie is that it's based on a true story of Kathryn Bolkovac. Here's a short intro from wiki and the poster.

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"Kathryn Bolkovac is an American former police investigator from Nebraska. She worked as a U.N. International Police Force monitor.

Originally hired by the U.S. company DynCorp in the framework of a U.N.-related contract, she filed a lawsuit in Great Britain against DynCorp for unfair dismissal due to a protected disclosure (whistleblowing), and on 2 August 2002 the tribunal unanimously found in her favor. DynCorp had a $15 million contract to hire and train police officers for duty in Bosnia at the time she reported such officers were paying for prostitutes and participating in sex-trafficking. Many of these were forced to resign under suspicion of illegal activity, but none have been prosecuted, as they also enjoy immunity from prosecution in Bosnia." Weblink

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