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My friends been telling me about meditation and how he feels so great after it, does anyone meditated here? It seems weird to me .. some more info on it would be great

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o_O I see we shia's are very educated in this matter.

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LOOOOOL You deserve a award for that.

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Just be careful. A lot of meditation involves chanting Hindu and Buddhist mantras and sutras. This is not permissible. Some (wahabbi) scholars also say that meditation in general is haraam, but I dunno about any of the Ayatollahs.

Ahh, whenever I meditated, I just sat and focused on my breathing and tried to relax

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Prayers are best form of meditation. I was a big fan of meditation. Done lots of meditation, it is very effective in calming mind. Those days I was reading my prayer with out involving myself in it and was completely unaware of its healing and calming powers. But when I learned to involve myself completely in prayers, there was no match for it. Focus on every word and involve yourself in prayer completely and see what it can do to you.

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Just be careful. A lot of meditation involves chanting Hindu and Buddhist mantras and sutras. This is not permissible. Some (wahabbi) scholars also say that meditation in general is haraam, but I dunno about any of the Ayatollahs.

Yes. In general, Yoga is Pagan. Christians already know this. See video

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Malaysian Islamic clerics have also issued a fatwa against it. See article here.

Yoga is one of the 6 orthodox schools of thought in Hinduism and meditation forms an integral part of it. Wiki article for a gentle introduction here. If one wants to delve into deeper aspects of Yoga Philosophy, one should study and contemplate on the Yoga Sutras. But this may be irrelevant as pastors and clerics have already declared Yoga haraam.

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Meditate, maybe after salah sit on your prayer mat, sibha in hand and think about the after life. think about a certain surah or verse in the quran. think about what you can improve on in life. An hour worth of reflection is better than a thousand years of salah (or something like this).

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I have done a bit of research into meditation and related subjects, and the conclusion that I came to is that in a lot of cases meditation strenghtens the nafs, which will not bring you closer to Allah at all. Even though I am not a specialists in things like meditation I would say that there are shared themes to be found in meditation and salat, but also themes that make the two radically differ from eachother.

Things like meditation can be potentially harmful, especially if done without an experienced teacher. It can cause mental sicknesses, and even bring about numerous physical diseases if done without supervision. And then again, if you do manage an experienced teacher, then the problem is that this person is usually not aware/correctly informed about the stations of the soul, the way the different worlds are organised and how this correllates to your spiritual progress.

The main problem is that a lot of people start looking for things outside of their salat is because they do not reach the result that they desire from it. Often salat directly puts an effect in our beings, but we do not always witness it ourselves directly. It is possible that a person passes several stages without him/her being actually concious of undergoing certain stages.

We as Muslims living in the west always want quick and tangible results, but sometimes it is not in our benefit to gain results in this manner. Getting tangible results out of your salat sometimes takes many years, but the results that you gain with this are not lost as easily as with some forms of meditation.

Meditation can potentially yield quick results, but at the same time with the slightests change you will lose that what you have worked for very hard.

The best thing is probably to start paying attention more to adding nawafil prayers, if you are looking for more tangible results in your salat. I think that salat should be treated and considered as divinely revealed meditation rather than a text that should be repeated by us like a parrot. Most often we do not understand a single word of what you say, and neither do we have an understanding of a single thing of the movements that are included within our prayer. And also, most often than not we merely pray because we feel it is our obligation rather than something we feel attracted to spiritually.

I personally do not agree with meditation in order to reach some type of spiritual state unless it is something that is rooted in Islam. However, if the type of meditation is more focused on breathing and is mainly focused on strengthening the body, etc. then perhaps this should be considered as some type of upgraded physical excercise like ta'i chi. I personally do not see any real problem with the latter. But perhaps opinions differ here... :)

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Meditate, maybe after salah sit on your prayer mat, sibha in hand and think about the after life. think about a certain surah or verse in the quran. think about what you can improve on in life. An hour worth of reflection is better than a thousand years of salah (or something like this).

Salah is itself very powerful meditation. In Salah when you start feeling yourself belonging to Allah, feeling his greatness and beauty, lots of other feelings like this which can not be explained in words. Needs a little practice but it is worth more than anything you can possibly achieve in this world. There can be no feeling more tasteful than can achieve in Salah.

You compare this meditation to any ordinary meditation. Nothing possibly can be compared to these feelings.

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