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17:110 Yusuf Ali

Say: "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between."

why do pray in a low voice when quran says dont?

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17:110 Yusuf Ali

Say: "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between."

why do pray in a low voice when quran says dont?

Good question Brother/Sister. I have never noticed this before. I do not have the answer however so inshAllah a more knowledgeable Brother or Sister will answer :)

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Salaam

A few points when it comes to the tafsir of this verse. The general opinion amongst mufassirs is that it is concerning prayers (not duas, as salat may mean). However, there is a difference of opinion when it comes to the meaning of the "do not say it loud" and "do not say it in a low tone":

  • Option 1 (e.g. Tabatabai in al-Mizan) - he says that the more suitable meaning is that the seeking a middle way, is referring to not being loud in ALL prayers, and not being soft in ALL prayers; but being loud in some, and soft in others; and this is in line with the ahadith on the topic [and why Dhuhr/Asr is in a soft voice

  • Option 2 (e.g. Syed Fadlallah in min wahy al-Qur'an) - he says that the meaning is as you say i.e. you should not be loud or soft in any prayer. However, the particularities concerning Dhuhr and Asr [and I assume women's recitation of prayer] would come from using ahadith to particularise the quranic verse

Hope that makes sense

Thanks

Take care

Ws

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17:110 Yusuf Ali

Say: "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. Neither speak thy Prayer aloud, nor speak it in a low tone, but seek a middle course between."

why do pray in a low voice when quran says dont?

salam Alaikum

have you checked the tafseer of that verse?

that verse orders our holy prophet to say his prayers in normal voice.

so who would interpret the rules of Islam as it is?

our holy prophet...

so he said this verse orders menh to say their fajr and maqrib prayer in normal voice, but zuhr and Asr must be said silent.

plus we have a lot Ahadith and also the way of saying prayer that people have narrated from our holy prophet shows that he used to say fajr and maqrib and isha prayer normally and zuhrain silently.

so this is the rule of God as it's.

so if you have question why must be said silent or normal, that's another issue..

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i wont take any hadith which contradicts quran. saying zhurain silently and others loudly contradicts quran. sayid fadahlulah got it right!!

yes yes it says ka not kum so its for prophet only?

salam Alaikum

First of all you have to know that we have 4 srouces to take our Ahkam from: Quran, Sunnah (hadith), Aql and Ijma.

Second this rule in Quran is General and the Ahadith which says our holy prophet used to pray in this way, is the Muqayyad of this rule which clarifies the real rule,

Third: The actions and the way of acting our holy prophet is Hujjah for us ,both shia and sunni, so he prayed in this way. we have to follow him as he is the one was teaching Isam to people.

i wont take any hadith which contradicts quran.

Forth: Are you a Mujtahid that can extract Islamic rules from Ahadith and Quran?!

Either you must be a Mujtahid or follow a Mujtahid,

it's not your duty to get your ahkam from Ahadith, be sure a Marja Taqleed has seen these ahadith and knows something that you don't know.

and at last, Ahkam is either for all the people or it's special for the holy prophet.

like Salatullail is wajib for holy prophet while it's mustahab for others.

so in the holy Quran some Ahkam and rules are said directly to the holy prophet and some are said general (kum).

we must refer to tafasir and Ahadith to see whose this verse is ordering..

like the verse says: O the holy prophet. Fight with Kuffar and Munafeqeen...

so does it mean that you holy prophet fight Alone?!

no, using Ki or Kum in the Quran is not the reason for saying this rule is general or personal.

wassalam

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