Basic Members Is'haaq ibn Ahmad Posted April 28, 2012 Basic Members Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Salam to you all brothers and sisters i am a Muslim and i am originally from south of yemen the northern coast of Somalia.People like me who are from the northern coast belong to a Large Somali tribe Is'haaq , we believed that we are descendents and members of the Ahlul-Bayt.The founder of this tribe passed away in 727/Hijra /1327. Sheikh Is'haaq ibn Ahmad was a Arab scholar and was born in Madina and was raised Hadhramaut, his father was born in Madina al-Munwara, and his Grandfather Muhammad bin Hussein was born in Samara, Iraq.Brothers and Sisters, i am not the best in Arabic, but this is text off an old book which has information on Sheikh Is'haaq's grandfather i think.It'll be a great favour if you translate this:äÓÈ ÇáÓÇÏÉ ÇáÇÓÍÇÞííä Çæ Èäæ ÇÓÍÇÞÈÓã Çááå æ ÇáÕáÇÉ æ ÇáÓáÇã Úáì ÎÇÊã ÇáÇäÈíÇÁ .ÇÎæÊí ÇÞÏã áßã äÓÈ ÇäÓÇä ßÇä æ áÇ ÒÇá íÏßÑ Ýí ÇáÈÚíÏ æ ÇáÞÑíÈ ãä ãä ÚÑÝå ãä ÇÈäÇÆå Çæ ÈÇáÇÍÑì ÞÈÇÆá ÇÈäÇÆå ÇáãÊæÇÌÏæä Ýí Çáíãä æÇáÕæãÇá æßá ãßÇä Ýí ÇáÚÇáã ÇáßÈíÑÊÞÑíÈÇð æ áå ÇÎæÇä æÂá ÇáÈíÊ ßáåã Çåáå æ åæ ãäåã:äÓÈ ÇáÓíÏ ÇÓÍÇÞ åæ.ÇÓÍÇÞ Èä ÇÍãÏ Èä ãÍãÏ Èä ÍÓíä Èä Úáí Èä ÇáãØåÑ Èä ÚÈÏ Çááå Èä ÇíæÈ Èä ãÍãÏ Èä ÞÇÓã Èä ÇÍãÏ Èä Úáí ä ÚíÓì Èä íÍíì Èä ãÍãÏ ÇáÊÞí Èä Úáí ÇáåÇÏí Èä ãÍãÏÇáÌæÇÏ Èä Úáí ÇáÑÖÇÈä ãæÓì ÇáßÇÙã Èä ÌÚÝÑ ÇáÕÇÏÞ Èä ãÍãÏÇáÈÇÞÑ Èä Úáí Òíä ÇáÚÇÈÏíä Èä ÇáÇãÇã ÇáÍÓíä Èä Úáí ÓÈØ ÑÓæá Çááå Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã.åÌÑÉ ÇáÓíÏ ãÍãÏ Èä ÇáÍÓíä ÌÏ ÇÓÍÇÞ Èä ÇÍãÏ :ãä ÇáÚÑÇÞ Ýí ÓäÉ 498å æÝí ÚÕÑ ÇáÎáíÝå ÇáãÚÊãÏ ÈÇááå ÇáÚÈÇÓí åÇÌÑ ãä ãÏíäÉ ÓÑãä ÑÇÆ ÈÇáÚÑÇÞ ÑÍá åæ æ ÇÒæÇÌå æ ÇæáÇÏå æ ÇÍÝÇÏå Çáì ÇáãÏíäå ÇáãäæÑå áãÇ ÇÔÊÏÊ ÇáãÍä Úáíåã ÈÚÏ ÝÊäÉ ÇáãÚÊãÏ æ ÇÈä ÇáãÚÊÒ ÇáÚÈÇÓí æßÇä ÚÇÆÏÇð ÈÇááå Ëã ÈÌÏå ÑÓæá Çááå (Õ) Ëã ÓßäåÇ ÍÊì ÊæÝí ÝíåÇ æ ÏÝä ÝíåÇ ÓäÉ 505 åÌÑíÉ ÑÍãå Çááåæ Ýí ÓäÉ506 ÊÝÑÞÊ ÇÓÑÊå áÇÓÈÇÈ ãÇÏíÉ ÝßÇäÊ ÑÍáÇÊåã ßÇáÇÊí:The text is from a mansucript sealed in Yemen by the Ahlul Bayt over there.almost eight centuries ago, Mohammed Hassan Al- Basri in a short biography written some times during his return to Damascus from the horn of Africa wrote about the journey of Sheikh Is'haaq from Mukha to Zayla, in his manuscript titled ' Al-Asjad Al-Mandum Li-Taariikh Wal-Uluum' presently housed in the Al-Dahiriya historical library of Demescus, Al-Basri detailed the life of Sheikh Is'haaq both in Yemen/Zayla and later Mait where he eventually settled with his tow wives and children and where presently his tomb is located.This is where we live, persumably on the north and western coasts.The ratios or the lineage of Sheikh Isaaq are as follows:1. Isaaq1. ÅÓÍÇÞ2. bin Ahmed2. Èä ÇÍãÏ3. Bin Mohammed3. Èä ãÍãÏ4. Bin Hussien4. Èä ÍÓíä5. Bin Ali5. Èä Úáí6. Bin Mudhar6. Èä ÇáãØåÑ7. Bin Abdalla7. Èä ÚÈÏ Çááå8. Bin Ayup8. Èä ÇíæÈ9. Bin Mohammed9. Èä ãÍãÏ10. Bin Qasim10. Èä ÞÇÓã11. Bin Ahmed11. Èä ÇÍãÏ12. Bin Ali12. Èä Úáí13. Bin Eisa13. Èä ÚíÓì14. Bin Yahya14. Èä íÍíì15. Bin Mohammed Al Taqi15. Èä ãÍãÏ ÇáÊÞí16. Bin Ali Al Hadi16. Èä Úáí ÇáåÇÏí17. Bin Mohammed Al Jawad17. Èä ãÍãÏÇáÌæÇÏ18. Bin Ali Al Reda18. Èä Úáí ÇáÑÖÇ19. Bin Musa Al Kathim19. ãæÓì ÇáßÇÙã20. Bin Jafar Al Sadiq20. Èä ÌÚÝÑ ÇáÕÇÏÞ21. Bin Mohammed Al Baqir21. Èä ãÍãÏÇáÈÇÞÑ22. Bin Ali Zainal Al Abiden22. Èä Úáí Òíä ÇáÚÇÈÏíä23. Bin Imam Al Hussien23. Èä ÇáÇãÇã ÇáÍÓíä24. Bin Ali24. Èä Úáì25. Bin Abu Dalib25. Èä ÃÈæØÇáÈ26. Bin Abdulmuddalib26. Èä ÚÈÏÇáãØáÈ27. Bin Abdulmanaf27. Èä ÚÈÏÇáãäÇÝ28. Bin Hashim28. Èä åÇÔãMuch of the muslim world does not know of this tribe or people, it is like they have been hidden Wallahi. Me personally i have seen the prophet in a dream, in the dream he was standing infront of me not saying anything it was very hard to remember. But i remember that before i slept i sent salawat on him and his wives family companions and all the prophets before him.These are people who are in the Bani Isaaq family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member A true Sunni Posted April 28, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 are you related to the individual who came on here a few years ago with the same lineage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member A true Sunni Posted April 28, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 depends on the numbers and might just be an inner core who lost their identity due to dissimulation. I think they are 'forgotten shias'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Shia_Debater Posted April 29, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Yes it is possible, the lineage is passed down through the father. Many many sayeds now have had centuries of inter marriages, thats why you will find pakistani sayeds, iraqi sayeds, iranian sayeds, afghan sayeds, yemeni sayeds etc. As long as the man is a sayed then all of his children will be sayed too, and all of their children will be sayed too etc. regardless of whether they marry a woman who is a sayed or non sayed Whereas if a sayed woman marries a non sayed man then their children will not be counted as sayed though technically their lineage will go back to the Imams (عليه السلام) (through the mother) but they won't be called/recognised as sayeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Gypsy Posted April 29, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Where do you get that the bloodline of Sayyed goes through Male descendent?If that was the case then there would be no Sayyed in the world today because all the bloodline to the Prophet goes via Fatima (sa), a female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Shia_Debater Posted April 29, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Where do you get that the bloodline of Sayyed goes through Male descendent?If that was the case then there would be no Sayyed in the world today because all the bloodline to the Prophet goes via Fatima (sa), a female.Yes but after Fatima (sa) and Imam Ali (as) the bloodline of a Sayed only goes through the Male descendant.I don't know why but thats just how it is, I have heard it many times from different people, I don't think it's one of those cultural things I don't know but I'm pretty certain it only goes through the male descendants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Shia_Debater Posted April 29, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 At the time of Imam Ridha (عليه السلام) I think it was, the leader (I think Harun al-Rasheed (la) or maybe it was ma'mun (la)) I don't know I get mixed up with the names, anyway he was going to kill all followers of the Imam (عليه السلام) or something like that, now many of them were sayeds and also (either the sayeds or the shi'a can't remember which one) used to smell nice and had a certain fragrance about them but the Imam (عليه السلام) made duaa' for Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to remove it so they cannot be found so easily, he then told them they had 4 years till harun (la) or ma'mun (la) was going to kill them and he told them to flee and go as far as possible. They went as far as china towards the east and as far as north africa towards the west. Due to this the shi'a whom alot were sayeds were scattered all over the worlds in different places, and had children etc. and so now there are sayeds all over the world. It was something like that I heard in a lecture I can't exactly remember the story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member A true Sunni Posted April 29, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Going back to my point about 'forgotten shia' . You will note that each of the Shia Imams has his honorific added. Non imams have no honorifc. This seems to me to mean that historically the family recognised the importance of these Imams but became Sunni through dissimulation. imaan=faith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic Members Is'haaq ibn Ahmad Posted April 29, 2012 Author Basic Members Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Sheikh Ishaaq's grandfather Muhammad binu Hussein was from Iraq and he fled to Madina due to some difficulties with the Abbasids.Anyway traditionally my father has been passed his lineage from his father and he passed it to me, its a tradition thats how i memorized the names of my ancestors to Sheikh Isaaq, his auto-biogripher Muhammad Al Basri who was with him through his travels his book is in Damascus i wonder how i can get a hold of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member A true Sunni Posted April 29, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 (edited) Sheikh Ishaaq's grandfather Muhammad binu Hussein was from Iraq and he fled to Madina due to some difficulties with the Abbasids.Anyway traditionally my father has been passed his lineage from his father and he passed it to me, its a tradition thats how i memorized the names of my ancestors to Sheikh Isaaq, his auto-biogripher Muhammad Al Basri who was with him through his travels his book is in Damascus i wonder how i can get a hold of it.sounds like you were probably of Shia ancestory. You have a tradition of secrecy within your tribe that you do not share with outsiders. This is similar to the tradition of dissimulation in Shias.I would hazard a guess that your ancestors were Shia fleeing persecution from the Abbasides settled in somalia but kept their Shia identity secret due to fear of persecution. Over the course of hundreds of years you forgot your Shia roots and merged with the general population becoming Sunni. Your strict adherence to remembering the honorifics of the Shia Imams is an indication of this. There is evidence that this has ocured on the Indian sub-continent as well Edited April 29, 2012 by A true Sunni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic Members Is'haaq ibn Ahmad Posted April 29, 2012 Author Basic Members Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 So it is confirmed that alot of Sayyids or descendants fleed Iraq during the Abbasid rule?, Somalis are traditionally Sufis, we do dhikr and hadra and spiritual gatherings and that sort.Although it is impossible for me to hate Shia's, there's a place in my heart for Shia's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member A true Sunni Posted April 29, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 So it is confirmed that alot of Sayyids or descendants fleed Iraq during the Abbasid rule?, Somalis are traditionally Sufis, we do dhikr and hadra and spiritual gatherings and that sort.Although it is impossible for me to hate Shia's, there's a place in my heart for Shia's.Despite what the current leaders of the Sufi orders claim, they all came afterwards. With the exception of the Naqshbandi order all other Sufi orders trace their inspiration back to Hz Ali (as). This again makes me think that the original founders of the orders were Shias in hiding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member A true Sunni Posted April 29, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 how did you come to know about shia that they follow the 12 imams? both my parents are from Somaliland too, but have never heard of the imams almost all my life. did your family taught you anything about the imams or Ahlulbayt in general?oh, you didn't answer my Q above, I know you said you're Isa'aaq but what's your sub clan, maxa ka tahaay? am just very curious to know :)As I was saying 9/12 imams are in your family tree. Most of the Imams has been recognised by his honorific ie no 15Mohammed was the name Taqi is the honorific.15. Bin Mohammed Al Taqi15. بن محمد التقي16. Bin Ali Al Hadi16. بن علي الهادي17. Bin Mohammed Al Jawad17. بن محمدالجواد18. Bin Ali Al Reda18. بن علي الرضا19. Bin Musa Al Kathim19. موسى الكاظم20. Bin Jafar Al Sadiq20. بن جعفر الصادق21. Bin Mohammed Al Baqir21. بن محمدالباقر22. Bin Ali Zainal Al Abiden22. بن علي زين العابدين23. Bin Imam Al Hussien23. بن الامام الحسين24. Bin AliThis seems to indicate that your ancestors knew the significance of these individual but you have only remembered them as names ^yes I heard that too. sufi practices goes back to our imam A.S . I highly doubt sheikh Isha'q was a shia. he is widely believed to be a suffi follower tho.As I said dissimulation of belief to protect the followers. Ask the tribe why they have a culture of secrecy. They will have forgotten Worse then that they will have forgotten the secret as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic Members Is'haaq ibn Ahmad Posted April 29, 2012 Author Basic Members Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 how did you come to know about shia that they follow the 12 imams? both my parents are from Somaliland too, but have never heard of the imams almost all my life. did your family taught you anything about the imams or Ahlulbayt in general?oh, you didn't answer my Q above, I know you said you're Isa'aaq but what's your sub clan, maxa ka tahaay? am just very curious to know :)I'm Abdurahman (Awal) Sa'ad Musa.My parents respect Shias even though we are sufis, we watch ahlul-bayt tv, thats how we know. What about you and your family?Despite what the current leaders of the Sufi orders claim, they all came afterwards. With the exception of the Naqshbandi order all other Sufi orders trace their inspiration back to Hz Ali (as). This again makes me think that the original founders of the orders were Shias in hidingI still haven't given Bayah to a Shaykh yeah although i wish to follow the Qadiriyya or the Shahidilli orders since they are active i still engage in the practices of the Naqashbandi order its great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic Members Is'haaq ibn Ahmad Posted April 29, 2012 Author Basic Members Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 ^ I memorised my name until Sheikh Isaaq when i was around 10, now i need to memorise from Sheikh Isaaq to Prophet Muhammad (saw). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic Members Is'haaq ibn Ahmad Posted April 29, 2012 Author Basic Members Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Brother Im doing fine i am reconciling myself in considering to join the Shahidilli path which encourages in one sitting alone reflecting on his nafs and learning how to make it better. Perhaps the best explanation isJibril (a.s) came to the prophet and sahaba in human from dressed in the whitest of white his hair black and his beard black he asked "tell me about the perfection of faith (ihsan),” and the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) answered: “It is to worship Allah as if you see Him, and if you see Him not, He nevertheless sees you.”This is what we do, when we sufis walk, we feel as Allah as with us, when we say "Allahuma Sali Ala Sayidina Muhammad wa Ala Aalihi wa ashaabihi wa salim" we feel the spirit and energy of the prophet because the prophet said whoever sends blessings on me i will be there to send it to him back.What parts do i not fit in to Islam Ya Akhi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member siraatoaliyinhaqqun Posted April 29, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Its sad to hear you all are on the path of those who killed your ancestors and made you homeless.Feel free to learn about your ancestors' religion here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic Members Is'haaq ibn Ahmad Posted April 29, 2012 Author Basic Members Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Akhi wallahi one monday not too long ago i fasted for the sake of Allah and following the sunah of the prophet, the prophet used to fast on mondays, i fasted, i missed duhr prayer, i came back home, i missed asr prayer, i prayed maghrib and had iftar, i sent salawat on the prophet, i slept and i saw him in my dream standing , and he was taller then me, all i can remember is that he was standing infront of me, and my father gave me instructions in the dream " go and give the prophet so and so" and so i was dressed in these robes and a turban and i went down the stairs and i saw the prophet and i was standing infront of him, thats the last thing i remember, akhi if i am on the wrong path why didn't the prophet say so in my dream, some say the prophet will appear to you in different states depending on your level of Iman.I immensly love the prophet, day and night i walk around the house when im with my mother all i say is " the prophet used to do this, one day the prophet did this"i'm obsessed , and i cannot address Allah without sending salawat on him.regarding Shaykh isaaq, brother i told you there are manuscripts in Yemen and there is a book written by the man who was with him Muhammad Al Basri it is in the historical library in damascus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic Members Is'haaq ibn Ahmad Posted April 29, 2012 Author Basic Members Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 This is my lineage to Sheikh Ishaaq binu Ahmad bin Muhammad Al Hashimi1. *****2 *****3 *****4 *****5 *****6 *****7 *****8 *****9 *****10 Son of Gadīd11 Son of Yōnis12 Son of Nūḥ13 Son of Ismaʿīl14 Son of Jibrīl15 Son of Ḥusayn16 Son of Abubakr17 Son of Is'ḥaaq18 Son of Saʿad19 Son of Mūsa20 Son of Subayr21 Son of ʿAbdalraḥmān ( Awal)22 Son of Shaykh Isāq.A rough estimate way to calculate if this is correct, is to know that 33 years is the average year of a generation, i count 22 to Shaykh Ishaq, i should multiply 22 x 33 then subtract the result with 2012 and it should roughly give me the result of the century when Shaykh ishaq was alive.22 x 33 = 726726 - 2012 = 1286 , in 1286 Shaykh Ishaq was alive. Which confirms me as his descendant and Allah knows best.Now let me try the same thing with Imam Ali (a.s)I count 46 to Imam Ali (A.S) a generation could be 30, 31, 33, or even 40 years, it depends on how long the person lived, I will multiply 46 x 31 years46 x 31 = 14262012 - 1426 = 586 this was 12 years before Imam Ali (A.S) was born.You must remember that these are not exact but rather they are roughly and are an estimate, since i do not have full recordings of date and births of my ancestors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic Members Is'haaq ibn Ahmad Posted April 29, 2012 Author Basic Members Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 the prophet said whosoever has seen me in a dream has seen me and that shaydaan cannot take form of him.and also dreams are very important the first thing the prophet would ask his sahaba is what did you dream of.I am ahlulbayt but u must remember i am still a regular muslim, i strive to do things just as every other muslim, alot of shuyuukh in the past were great and they weren't ahlul-bayt, for example Uwais Al Qadri (R.A), Allah created mankind as equals one human is not above the other, Ahlul Bayt ofcourse are different because they carry the blood of the prophet, but i don't like it when they make it seems ahlul-bayt like some sort of monarchy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic Members Is'haaq ibn Ahmad Posted April 29, 2012 Author Basic Members Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 ^ Bro you should believe, If your fathers fathers fathers up to Sheikh isaaq believed why couldn't you have faith brother, appearance doesn't mean anythingwe heavily intermarried with the native population now we are somalis but our lineage to Ahlul-bayt doesn't dissapear, the malaysians and indonesians have ahlul bayt and look how far they live, we live just under Yemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Popular Post Abu Tufayl Posted April 29, 2012 Veteran Member Popular Post Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 (bismillah)Dreams are not hujjah for anything, really. You can't use dreams in a fiqh argument or an aqeedah argument.Anyway, Sufism in many things it does are not contrary to Islam. But the fact that this sort of "separate" mystical path was created is what is problematic. The Imams [as] did not teach people to seclude themselves from society and such. Yes, they taught about purification of the nafs, control, worship, fasting, etc, but these things were never separated from the Shari`ah and the Wilayah of Ahlulbayt [as]. Another more problematic aspect to us about Sufism is the bayy`ah to the non-Ma`sum. Bayy`ah to the non-Ma`sum is batil, it can only be given to the Wasi of the Prophet [sawa] from his Ahlulbayt [as], and in our era it is al-Qa'im [as]. I mean, these Sufis chains (silsalas) cannot be substantiated by anything and in fact they are many times very problematic. There are some chains that have hundreds of year gaps between 2 shaykhs and sometimes they have mysterious like al-Khidhr [as] in them. So...you can see how we already cast doubt on them, and overall reject it. We don't need to create anything new or create "spirituality" because the Imams [as] have already preserved that from the Prophet [sawa] and given it us. Also, remember that not everyone form the descendants from the Hasanain [as] is considered Ahlulbayt [as], only the 14 Infallibles (Prophet [sawa], Fatimah [as], the 12 Imams [as]). حسبنا كتاب الله وقول العترة الطاهرةSufficient for us it he Book of Allah [awj] and the Saying of the Pure Progeny [as].في امان الله تعالى Gypsy, Kamranistan, al-`Ajal Ya Imaam and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Ayeesha Posted April 4, 2013 Advanced Member Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) how did you come to know about shia that they follow the 12 imams? both my parents are from Somaliland too, but have never heard of the imams almost all my life. did your family taught you anything about the imams or Ahlulbayt in general?oh, you didn't answer my Q above, I know you said you're Isa'aaq but what's your sub clan, maxa ka tahaay? am just very curious to know :)I'm Isaaq Arab that's all I memorized :) Edited April 4, 2013 by Ayeesha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member A true Sunni Posted April 4, 2013 Veteran Member Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Rereading your family tree I think you will find that you have an error 15,16, 17. No 15 Imam Mohammaed Taqi alternative name is Imam Mohammed Jawad. (17)Rereading it and taking out 15 it appears you are descended from Imam Al Hadi. Interestingly enough the other individual who came on here had errors in his genealogy as well but when corrected had all 12 Imams named . He wrongly thought he was descended from the 12 Imam but it appears your family tree might be a little more accurate.Further evidence that your ancestors were in fact Shia Ithna Asheria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic Members Hassanfm Posted May 17, 2014 Basic Members Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 This is the correct lineage of Sh. Isahaq Binu Ahmed Al-Hashimi, the Sheekh migrated from Iraq due to wars against Ehlu Beyt and formally resided in the horn of Africa where his lineage are now living.1. Isaaq1. إسحاق2. bin Ahmed2. بن احمد3. Bin Mohammed3. بن محمد4. Bin Hussien4. بن حسين5. Bin Ali5. بن علي6. Bin Mudhar6. بن المطهر7. Bin Abdalla7. بن عبد الله8. Bin Ayup8. بن ايوب9. Bin Mohammed9. بن محمد10. Bin Qasim10. بن قاسم11. Bin Ahmed11. بن احمد12. Bin Ali12. بن علي13. Bin Eisa13. بن عيسى14. Bin Yahya14. بن يحيى15. Bin Mohammed Al Taqi15. بن محمد التقي16. Bin Ali Al Caskari16. بن علي العسكري17. Bin Mohammed Al Jawad17. بن محمدالجواد18. Bin Ali Al Reda18. بن علي الرضا19. Bin Musa Al Kathim19. موسى الكاظم20. Bin Jafar Al Sadiq20. بن جعفر الصادق21. Bin Mohammed Al Baqir21. بن محمدالباقر22. Bin Ali Zainal Al Abiden22. بن علي زين العابدين23. Bin Imam Al Hussien23. بن الامام الحسين24. Bin Ali24. بن على25. Bin Abu Dalib25. بن أبوطالب26. Bin Abdulmuddalib26. بن عبدالمطلب27. Bin Abdulmanaf27. بن عبدالمناف28. Bin Hashim28. بن هاشم Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member A true Sunni Posted May 22, 2014 Veteran Member Report Share Posted May 22, 2014 This is the correct lineage of Sh. Isahaq Binu Ahmed Al-Hashimi, the Sheekh migrated from Iraq due to wars against Ehlu Beyt and formally resided in the horn of Africa where his lineage are now living.1. Isaaq1. إسحاق2. bin Ahmed2. بن احمد3. Bin Mohammed3. بن محمد4. Bin Hussien4. بن حسين5. Bin Ali5. بن علي6. Bin Mudhar6. بن المطهر7. Bin Abdalla7. بن عبد الله8. Bin Ayup8. بن ايوب9. Bin Mohammed9. بن محمد10. Bin Qasim10. بن قاسم11. Bin Ahmed11. بن احمد12. Bin Ali12. بن علي13. Bin Eisa13. بن عيسى14. Bin Yahya14. بن يحيى15. Bin Ali Al Caskari15. بن علي العسكري16. Bin Mohammed Al Jawad16. بن محمدالجواد 17. Bin Mohammed Al Taqi17. بن محمد التقي18. Bin Ali Al Reda18. بن علي الرضا19. Bin Musa Al Kathim19. موسى الكاظم20. Bin Jafar Al Sadiq20. بن جعفر الصادق21. Bin Mohammed Al Baqir21. بن محمدالباقر22. Bin Ali Zainal Al Abiden22. بن علي زين العابدين23. Bin Imam Al Hussien23. بن الامام الحسين24. Bin Ali24. بن على25. Bin Abu Dalib25. بن أبوطالب26. Bin Abdulmuddalib26. بن عبدالمطلب27. Bin Abdulmanaf27. بن عبدالمناف28. Bin Hashim28. بن هاشم ASA just corrected your family tree it was innacurate. It does appear your ancestory is Shia Ithna Asheria. As you can see the honorifics are with the recognised Imams and then after the recognised Imams no more honorifics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic Members Hayatmohamed Posted October 9, 2015 Basic Members Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Where can I find the book about sheikh isxaaq? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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