Advanced Member Dawud Miqdad al-Amriki Posted February 9, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (bismillah) (salam)Even if you disagree with the Sheikh, keep on topic, this thread isn't for bashing, make a bashing thread and I'll be happy to join you there.This thread is for his words in this clip inshallah.Sheikh Al-Habib, a Shia cleric from Kuwait, discusses Shia uprisings around the Gulf, encourages continuing uprisings in Bahrain, and talks about the Shia's desire for their own nation.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHtb1Y5OmFg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member bolbol Posted February 9, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Shiite Arabs do not have the thinkers, ideologues and leaders that Iran's Shiite community has. Their culture is underdeveloped and incapable of self emancipation. Demagogues like these as a result are willing to play the "Let's ask the British empire for another favour" card to get away from the absolutism their culture has created. Edited February 9, 2012 by bolbol Waiting for HIM, Professor Higgins and titumir 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Administrators Hameedeh Posted February 9, 2012 Forum Administrators Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (bismillah) (salam)What we need to do is ask Yasir Al-Habib on what basis is he qualified to speak on the beliefs of the Shia?The man went to Kuwait for a relatively short period of time and he came back to London wearing the garb of the Holy Prophet .As for taking what is good from his speeches, how are we to judge what is good and what is not?Lets rely on those scholars who are credible and not shady like Al-Habib. http://www.shiachat....aseer-al-habib/ (bismillah) (salam)Do you follow Ayatollah Sadiq Shirazi or Sheikh Yasir al-Habib? The majority of the Muslims think Yasir al-Habib creates fitna. He was so hateful in his speech against the Sunnis that Shias were killed, he was stripped of his Kuwaiti citizenship, and he went to live in the UK. Now in your video I see him suggesting to make a Mega Bahrain for Shias which will swallow up Kuwait and UAE. I guess he is mad he got kicked out of Kuwait and wants to somehow get back there and set up his office. Don't think this is going to happen. I don't think he is welcome anywhere except in the West. I wonder who pays him. Professor Higgins, Philip, Ali Musaaa :) and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mushu Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Shiite Arabs do not have the thinkers, ideologues and leaders that Iran's Shiite community has. Their culture is underdeveloped and incapable of self emancipation. Demagogues like these as a result are willing to play the "Let's ask the British empire for another favour" card to get away from the absolutism their culture has created.Keep your ridiculous theories to yourself. The reason Iraq hasn't flourished is because all our great leaders were killed. Both the Sadrs were martyred. Syed Khomeini was not, and was therefore able to set up a government. Even Syed Khomeini said that if it was Sadam ruling Iran and not the Shah, the revolution would not have been the amazing success it was. Dawud Miqdad al-Amriki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Dawud Miqdad al-Amriki Posted February 9, 2012 Author Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (bismillah) (salam) (bismillah) (salam)Do you follow Ayatollah Sadiq Shirazi or Sheikh Yasir al-Habib? The majority of the Muslims think Yasir al-Habib creates fitna. He was so hateful in his speech against the Sunnis that Shias were killed, he was stripped of his Kuwaiti citizenship, and he went to live in the UK. Now in your video I see him suggesting to make a Mega Bahrain for Shias which will swallow up Kuwait and UAE. I guess he is mad he got kicked out of Kuwait and wants to somehow get back there and set up his office. Don't think this is going to happen. I don't think he is welcome anywhere except in the West. I wonder who pays him. Both Sheikh Yasser al-Habib and myself do taqleed to Grand Ayatollah Sayed Sadiq ShiraziI guess you didn't read the part of my post which saidEven if you disagree with the Sheikh, keep on topic, this thread isn't for bashing, make a bashing thread and I'll be happy to join you there.I can see that you haven't met and spoken to Sheikh Yasser al-Habib, nor do you have any idea who he is. You clearly cut and pasted from that other thread about him, which is loaded with false information.Let me explain briefly, then if you want to discuss, make a new thread, don't carry the discussion on here please, Jazakallah khayra.Essentially, Sheikh Yasser al-Habib has studied in Howza for over 12 years, he was a student of Ayatollah Mujtaba Shirazi, and he has been authorized in ijtihaad, meaning that Sheikh Yasser al-Habib is a mujtahid, meaning that he isn't some unknowledgeable fraud like people accuse him of being.Sheikh Yasser al-Habib was put in prison in Kuwait for doing La'nat during a private khutbah, where someone recorded it and it was leaked. He was in prison for one year, when he was released, he fled the country with his family because they intended to put him back in prison for 10 years.He doesn't have a personal vendetta, he just is talking about the "Arab Spring" and wants to see it be fruitful and not wasted. Just as every respectable scholar and Muslim is hoping happens.As for who pays him, he isn't a follower of Khamenei so he isn't getting a huge flow of money for supporting wali al faqih and spreading their ideology. Sheikh Yasser al-Habib lives a very humble lifestyle and drives a beaten up vehicle, Fadak TV doesn't use any sponsors and doesn't show any commercials on their station, so they rely purely on donations to stay running, and it struggles to be honest, but alhamdulilah Allah provides.So rather than judging someone without any evidence, let's ask questions humbly seeking knowledge. BillyJo and Ismahan007 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member ImamAliLover Posted February 9, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Shiite Arabs do not have the thinkers, ideologues and leaders that Iran's Shiite community has. Their culture is underdeveloped and incapable of self emancipation. Demagogues like these as a result are willing to play the "Let's ask the British empire for another favour" card to get away from the absolutism their culture has created.Salam i agree. Iran had people like al-Mutahhari, al-Khumayni, Behshti: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8hZnwsyT1cAnd many others who had a high level of thinking and political awareness, in addition to being good/great scholars in Islam. i admit that i am ignorant about the scholars of the Khaleej but from what i've seen, i haven't really seen much that compares to the likes of Beheshti or the other brains and muscles behind the Islamic Revolution in Iran.i agree with Sheikh Yasir (which is very rare lol) that we need to have more nations unifying beyond borders, based on Islam, not based on b.s, made-up borders by the British and kept in place by the puppets of the enemies of Islam. But such a movement requires time, thought, and planning. An overnight revolution isn't going to do much. However, i don't like that he keeps bringing up the colonialist powers into this. Bringing the U.N to try and create some legitimacy is not a good start. i like Iran's independence and we should follow that model.And Allah(swt) knows best Edited February 9, 2012 by ImamAliLover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Mushu Posted February 9, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Salam i agree. Iran had people like al-Muttahari, al-Khumayni, Behshti: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8hZnwsyT1cAnd many others who had a high level of thinking and political awareness, in addition to being good/great scholars in Islam. i admit that i am ignorant about the scholars of the Khaleej but from what i've seen, i haven't really seen much that compares to the likes of Beheshti or the other brains and muscles behind the Islamic Revolution in Iran.i agree with Sheikh Yasir (which is very rare lol) that we need to have more nations unifying behind borders, based on Islam, not based on b.s, made-up borders by the British and kept in place by the puppets of the enemies of Islam. But such a movement requires time, thought, and planning. An overnight revolution isn't going to do much. However, i don't like that he keeps bringing up the colonialist powers into this. Bringing the U.N to try and create some legitimacy is not a good start. i like Iran's independence and we should follow that model.And Allah(swt) knows bestThere are plenty of great Arab thinkers.What about Shaheed Syed Baqir al-Sadr; Shaheed Syed Sadiq al-Sadr; Sheikh al-Yaqoobi; Syed Musa al-Sadr; Shaheed Syed Mohammed Baqir al-Hakeem?Unfortunately, they have all been martyred (except Sheikh al-Yaqoobi) or are 'missing' (Syed Musa al-Sadr). BillyJo, AlAbd AlThaleel, baradar_jackson and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member ImamAliLover Posted February 9, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) There are plenty of great Arab thinkers.What about Shaheed Syed Baqir al-Sadr; Shaheed Syed Sadiq al-Sadr; Sheikh al-Yaqoobi; Syed Musa al-Sadr; Shaheed Syed Mohammed Baqir al-Hakeem?Unfortunately, they have all been martyred (except Sheikh al-Yaqoobi) or are 'missing' (Syed Musa al-Sadr).Salam all of them were from Iraq (im not sure about which al-Ya'qoobi you're referring to), not the Gulf. i was specifically talking about the ones from the Gulf states (Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi, Bahrain, etc) Edited February 9, 2012 by ImamAliLover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Professor Higgins Posted February 9, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Shiite Arabs do not have the thinkers, ideologues and leaders that Iran's Shiite community has. Their culture is underdeveloped and incapable of self emancipation. Demagogues like these as a result are willing to play the "Let's ask the British empire for another favour" card to get away from the absolutism their culture has created.The guy even looks up to the Zionists' demand for a homeland from the British. LOL, the British did not grant the Zionists a farm on Arab land because they sympathised with them , but because they wanted to create mayhem and divisions in the Arab world forever. And even states like Kuwait, Jordan and UAE are basically British buffer states, to act as buffers between aggressive Najdi expansionism from Saudi and aggressive Arab nationalism from Bilad al-Sham. None of whoch were palatable to the British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Professor Higgins Posted February 9, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Salam all of them were from Iraq (im not sure about which al-Ya'qoobi you're referring to), not the Gulf. i was specifically talking about the ones from the Gulf states (Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi, Bahrain, etc)Iraqis are Arabs, bolbol was referring to Arab thinkers at large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mushu Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Salam all of them were from Iraq (im not sure about which al-Ya'qoobi you're referring to), not the Gulf. i was specifically talking about the ones from the Gulf states (Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi, Bahrain, etc)Yeah Sheikh al-Yaqoobi is Iraqi too.Okay coool. I thought you meant Arabs in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Khadim uz Zahra Posted February 9, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Salam i agree. Iran had people like al-Mutahhari, al-Khumayni, Behshti: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8hZnwsyT1cAnd many others who had a high level of thinking and political awareness, in addition to being good/great scholars in Islam. i admit that i am ignorant about the scholars of the Khaleej but from what i've seen, i haven't really seen much that compares to the likes of Beheshti or the other brains and muscles behind the Islamic Revolution in Iran.i agree with Sheikh Yasir (which is very rare lol) that we need to have more nations unifying beyond borders, based on Islam, not based on b.s, made-up borders by the British and kept in place by the puppets of the enemies of Islam. But such a movement requires time, thought, and planning. An overnight revolution isn't going to do much. However, i don't like that he keeps bringing up the colonialist powers into this. Bringing the U.N to try and create some legitimacy is not a good start. i like Iran's independence and we should follow that model.And Allah(swt) knows bestTrue that the likes of Ayatollah Khomeini, Ayatollah Behishti (I have, unfortunately, never ever read any of his books, heard any lecture of his and, literally, know next nothing about his life but just looking at his face makes me have a special affection for him), Ayatollah Muttahiri and Ali Shariati were some great people and illustrious leaders but I think Mushu makes a valid point that Iraq also had some very great personalities like Ayatollah Baqir us Sadr and others who would have, also, done quite well had the political circumstances they were in been more favourable. There are plenty of great Arab thinkers. What about Shaheed Syed Baqir al-Sadr; Shaheed Syed Sadiq al-Sadr; Sheikh al-Yaqoobi; Syed Musa al-Sadr; Shaheed Syed Mohammed Baqir al-Hakeem? Unfortunately, they have all been martyred (except Sheikh al-Yaqoobi) or are 'missing' (Syed Musa al-Sadr). Syed Musa al-Sadr was, from what I know, not really Iraqi. His family was from Lebanon who had later moved to Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawud. Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) Kitab Al-Kafi Vol. 8 Pg. 295 from Imam Abu Abdullah (as):"The leader of every flag 'in an uprising' that is raised before the rising of the Qaim is an evildoer who is worshiped (taghut) by the people for his daringness beside Allah."Kitab Al-Kafi Vol. 8 Pg. 310 from Imam Abu Abdullah (as):Five signs prior to the rising the Qaim: the cry, the Sufyani, the sinking (i.e. the land of Bayda), the killing of the pure soul (an nafs az zakiyya), and the Yamani. So I said, 'May I be made your ransom, if someone from your people of your house goes out (i.e. for Jihad) prior to these signs, do we go out with him? He (as) said, "No".Kitab Al-Kafi Vol. 8 Pg. 264 from Imam Abu Abdullah (as):"Do not leave taqwa (fear of) God, the One and without any partners, and watch over yourselves constantly. I solemnly declare that if someone has chosen a shepherd to care for his sheep, but afterward finds someone else who is more wise than the first one for the task, he will leave the first one and employ the services of the wiser one. By God, if you had two life-times, and you experimented with the first one, and were left with the second lifetime, then there would be no difficulty in utilizing the experience of the first lifetime. But the reality is other than this. Every person has no more than one self, for which, if it falls into peril, there is no possibility for repentance or return. Therefore, it is necessary for you to carefully evaluate and select the best way for your selves.Hence, if one among us came to you and called upon you to revolt, think carefully and find out for what purpose he has revolted. Do not simply say [to justify his revolt by saying something like:] "Well, Zayd b. 'Ali also had arisen before!" The reason is that Zayd was a learned and truthful person and had not called upon you to acknowledge his own leadership; rather, he was calling towards a person who would be acceptable and endorsed by the ahl al-bayt. Had he succeeded, he would have acted upon his promise and would have handed over the power to its owner. Zayd revolted against the government so that he could overthrow it. But what is the one who has emerged today calling you? Is he calling you towards a person who is acceptable and endorsed by the ahl al-bayt? No, absolutely not. I am calling you to bear witness that we are not pleased with this person's revolt. This man has not even reached power and he has already started opposing us. And when he does seize power and raises his flag, he would certainly not submit to us in obedience.Hence, accept the call of the one about whom all the descendants of Fatima are in agreement. That person is your Imam and your leader. When the month of Rajab dawns, come to the help of God. There is no problem if you wish to delay it until the month of Sha'ban. And, it is even better for you, if you wished to keep the fast of Ramadan with your family. If you need any signs, it is sufficient to remind yourselves about the rise of Sufyani"Kitab Al-Kafi Vol 8. Pg. 224-225 from Imam Abu Abdullah (as):From Yaqub Al Sarraj, 'I said to Imam Abu Abdullah (as), "When do your Shia get relief?" So he (as) said, "When there will be ikhtilaf (disagreement) with the children of Al Abbas about their authority and greed among them. And those who did not show interest in them will show interest. The Arabs will leave their reign lose, and whoever has a spur raises it. When the appearance of Al Shami, the drawing near of Al Yamani, the movement of Al Hasani, and the rose of the owner of this command (i.e. Al Qaim) from Al Madinah to Mecca with the legacy of The Messenger of Allah (saw)."So I (Yaqub Al Sarraj) said, "What is the legacy of The Messenger of Allah?" He (as) said, The Messenger of Allah's sword, his armor, his turban, his garment, his staff, his banner, his helmet, and his saddle. He (as) reaches Mecca, then he takes the sword from its sheth, and he wears the armor and hoists the banner. He dresses in the gown and turban, and he takes the staff with his hand, and seeks Allah's permission about his appearance. And he gets acquainted with few of his supporters, and Al Hasani comes and informs him of the news. So Al Hasani rushes to come out, but he is jumped by the people of Mecca, they kill him, and send his head to Al Shami. That is when the owner of this command (i.e. Al Qaim) appears, the people do bayah (allegiance) to him, and they follow him. Al Shami at that time sends an army to Al Madinah, and Allah destroys them before reaching it. On that day the children of Ali (as) will flee from Al Madinah to Mecca and stick witht he owner of this command (i.e. Al Qaim). The owner of this command (i.e. Al Qaim) will approach near Iraq, and he (as) will send an army to Al Madinah whose people will believe in him, and return to it (Al Madinah)" Edited February 9, 2012 by Dawud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imami Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Shiite Arabs do not have the thinkers, ideologues and leaders that Iran's Shiite community has. Their culture is underdeveloped and incapable of self emancipation. Demagogues like these as a result are willing to play the "Let's ask the British empire for another favour" card to get away from the absolutism their culture has created.Even though it is a quite polemical way of expressing oneself, I do to some extend agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forum Administrators Hameedeh Posted February 9, 2012 Forum Administrators Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 (bismillah) (salam)? I wasn't bashing Yasir al-Habib, just pointing everyone to a topic about him. Then I said that his speeches against Sunnis caused Shias to get martyred, which is a known fact by people who have been members of ShiaChat since August 2010. Seyyed Ali Khamenei's fatwa was posted at ShiaChat on September 30, 2010. Here is the link to it: http://www.icislam.c...34-05&Itemid=74In His Name, the Most HighThe leader of the Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei released a statement declaring it forbidden to defame the wife of the holy Prophet, the mother of the believers, Aisha. He also made it forbidden to attack the Islamic symbols of the Sunni schools in general. This came in an answer he gave to a question that he recieved from a group of scholars and professionals from the Ahsa province in Saudi Arabia in light of the latest insults from the Kuwaiti refugee in London, Yasser Al-Habib.When asked about his views on the subject, the leader of the Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei replied:In the Name of Allah, the beneficient, the merciful.Assalaamu Alaikum Warahmat Allah Wabarakatuh,It is not permissible to undermine the symbols of our Sunni brothers and moreso it is not permissible to accuse the wife of the Prophet [peace be upon him and his family] in what would dishonour her. This is something not permissible for all prophets including their master the holy messenger [peace be upon him]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mushu Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 True that the likes of Ayatollah Khomeini, Ayatollah Behishti (I have, unfortunately, never ever read any of his books, heard any lecture of his and, literally, know next nothing about his life but just looking at his face makes me have a special affection for him), Ayatollah Muttahiri and Ali Shariati were some great people and illustrious leaders but I think Mushu makes a valid point that Iraq also had some very great personalities like Ayatollah Baqir us Sadr and others who would have, also, done quite well had the political circumstances they were in been more favourable.Syed Musa al-Sadr was, from what I know, not really Iraqi. His family was from Lebanon who had later moved to Iran.Yeahh you're correct, he was Lebanese. Sorry, did I say he was Iraqi......nooope I said ARAB :D Khadim uz Zahra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member AlphaMale_ASAD Posted February 9, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Does the ethnicity even matter? I'm black. the original man. so your all descedants of my blood line. there now every scholar is african. Argument settled now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Khadim uz Zahra Posted February 9, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Does the ethnicity even matter? I'm black. the original man. so your all descedants of my blood line. there now every scholar is african. Argument settled now?Of course, race does not really matter but this discussion is much more concentrated whether certain geographical locations could manage to pull off a revolution like that in Iran rather being based on ethnicity or race. In any way, neither nationality/belong to a certain location nor race and ethnicity matter.By the way, Africa is the "cradle of mankind" according to Evolution and I don't really think it has much of an Islamic basis. I do realise, of course, that you were not serious in that post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member AlphaMale_ASAD Posted February 9, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Of course, race does not really matter but this discussion is much more concentrated whether certain geographical locations could manage to pull off a revolution like that in Iran rather being based on ethnicity or race. In any way, neither nationality/belong to a certain location nor race and ethnicity matter.By the way, Africa is the "cradle of mankind" according to Evolution and I don't really think it has much of an Islamic basis. I do realise, of course, that you were not serious in that post.Adam was a black man. Lets get that clear lol He wasnt many colors and yadadadaddadah. He was black. simple as that. And africa at that time was jointly together with hejaz and iraq etc all people were dark skinned. The mesopatimians were not light skinned people.Adam was a black man. Lets get that clear lol He wasnt many colors and yadadadaddadah. He was black. simple as that. And africa at that time was jointly together with hejaz and iraq etc all people were dark skinned. The mesopatimians were not light skinned people.nabi adam saws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Khadim uz Zahra Posted February 9, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Adam was a black man. Lets get that clear lol He wasnt many colors and yadadadaddadah. He was black. simple as that. And africa at that time was jointly together with hejaz and iraq etc all people were dark skinned. The mesopatimians were not light skinned people.nabi adam sawsDo you have any reference for this. Not that it matters because whether he whether he was black, blue or purple makes ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member AlphaMale_ASAD Posted February 9, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Do you have any reference for this. Not that it matters because whether he whether he was black, blue or purple makes ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENCE.[15.26] And certainly We created man of clay that gives forth sound, of black mud fashioned in shape.So yes it matters. Just like how all these [Edited Out] above for some reason mattered about gulf ppl etc. so yes it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Khadim uz Zahra Posted February 9, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Look, they were not trying to say that a person from Iran is better than someone from the Gulf or the other way round. They were just analysing whether there were any chances of a revolution, like that of Iran, happening in that region. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member AlphaMale_ASAD Posted February 9, 2012 Advanced Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Look, they were not trying to say that a person from Iran is better than someone from the Gulf or the other way round. They were just analysing whether there were any chances of a revolution, like that of Iran, happening in that region. That is all.Your marja has spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Khadim uz Zahra Posted February 9, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Your marja has spoken.This is about beliefs and not practical laws so I can disregard the position of my marja here! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5a49 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Shiite Arabs do not have the thinkers, ideologues and leaders that Iran's Shiite community has. Their culture is underdeveloped and incapable of self emancipation. Demagogues like these as a result are willing to play the "Let's ask the British empire for another favour" card to get away from the absolutism their culture has created.What do you call Sayed Hassan Nasrollah and the whole Shia community in Lebanon?Even the Bahranian community?Unfortunately, the Shirazi ideology does bash the ideology of resistance, and I blame them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waiting for HIM Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Salam,So this arm chair general Yasir Al Habib, WTH he is anti Ay. Khamenei and anti Iranian Islamic regime???True that a new ME should have Shia empowered Bahrain, Iraq, Kuwait, and independent Hijaz. But not by the word of those who routinely oppose an already established Islamic regime.I really wonder who pays him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahhabism4All Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yassir al-Habib: Iran is neither a Shiite government nor an Islamic onehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDLHHRHb6Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Noah- Posted February 10, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yassir al-Habib: Iran is neither a Shiite government nor an Islamic onehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDLHHRHb6QWhy you want to play the role of a hypocrite here? You support everyone who says anything against Iran, but now you don't support this guy? Because, now he demands the rights of Shias? Or you support him in his position against Iran and that is why you posted his video clip?Anyhow, he is right about Shias of Gulf states to fight for their rights and should slap you Takfiri Wahabis hard! Because, you people do not know anything but the language of force, just like Hizbullah, Sadrists, and Houthis who are fighting for their rights... no one will ever give the oppressed people any right until they take it themselves. Dawud Miqdad al-Amriki and Waiting for HIM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member baradar_jackson Posted February 10, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Yassir al-Habib: Iran is neither a Shiite government nor an Islamic onehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDLHHRHb6QThe biggest point against Habib and his followers: a Takfiri Salafi is using Habib's material, to propagate his own views. Praetorius and Waiting for HIM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahhabism4All Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) The biggest point against Habib and his followers: a Takfiri Salafi is using Habib's material, to propagate his own views.The only Takfiris I have seen on this site are the political pseudo-Shiites (PPS) such as yourself. This "takfiri" word is being played out, and if you look at posts, it is mostly the political pseudo-Shiites doing takfir against any Sunni opposing them by falsely labelling them many things.You are Iranian, so obviously you did not like the video and you negate it because I posted it. An interesting note regarding political pseudo-Shiites (PPS): Their opinions are not based on what is right and wrong according to their Imams, but rather who is supporting one side. I'm sorry, this is a very flawed interpretation of the world. Edited February 10, 2012 by Justice4all Professor Higgins and Dawud Miqdad al-Amriki 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member baradar_jackson Posted February 10, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 You are Iranian, so obviously you did not like the video and you negate it because I posted it. Hameedeh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahhabism4All Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 ^ It's not racist. Let's not play the race card. The video is al-Habib speaking against the Iranian regime, and you happen to be a hardcore Iranian who supports the regime, so it's not suprising you did not like it and tried to brush it off by linkage. Professor Higgins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member baradar_jackson Posted February 10, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 ^ It's not racist. Let's not play the race card. The video is al-Habib speaking against the Iranian regime, and you happen to be a hardcore Iranian who supports the regime, so it's not suprising you did not like it and tried to brush it off by linkage.Justice MonKKKey stop trying to hide your racist majoosi genocide agenda, LoL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Noah- Posted February 10, 2012 Veteran Member Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Their opinions are not based on what is right and wrong according to their Imams, but rather who is supporting one side. I'm sorry, this is a very flawed interpretation of the world.Childish--A--Z!Since when did you know 'what is right and what is wrong according to our Imams?' Now, you want to conclude that if anyone who agrees with YOU and your 'monafiq' ideas on Syria, like a few Shia users, they have right opinions and are right according to our Imams but when we have a different take on Syria, that makes us wrong according to our Imams? Especially, this comes from an anti-Shia individual. By definition and by logic, anyone that you support and that you think is right according to our Imams are those who are WRONG, because they are favored by a third party opposing site!btw: do you know what are these terms Kufur, Kafir, Takfir, Takfiri and ....? It seems you have no idea whatsoever! Waiting for HIM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahhabism4All Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 Childish--A--Z!Since when did you know 'what is right and what is wrong according to our Imams?' Now, you want to conclude that if anyone who agrees with YOU and your 'monafiq' ideas on Syria, like a few Shia users, they have right opinions and are right according to our Imams but when we have a different take on Syria, that makes us wrong according to our Imams? Especially, this comes from an anti-Shia individual. By definition and by logic, anyone that you support and that you think is right according to our Imams are those who are WRONG, because they are favored by a third party opposing site!No, I am talking about anyone who follows your Imams would understand the injustice that is happening when they see it. It's really not hard to grasp. Simple concept. The political pseudo-Shiites such as yourself will always look for an excuse when they see injustice happening, saying "Oh who cares about the dead! Zionists/Saudi/Qatar supports them!" The real Shiites know their Imams spoke about injustice whenever they saw it, not just of who was involved.btw: do you know what are these terms Kufur, Kafir, Takfir, Takfiri and ....? It seems you have no idea whatsoever!You're a Takfiri yourself, so I don't know why you are asking me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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