Shi'a Are Sunni - Sunni Are Shi'a

[Dawud Miqdad al-Amriki]

(bismillah)

Why do I say "Shi'a are Sunni - Sunni are Shi'a"?

Because we as Shi'a follow the Sunnah of Prophet (sawa) in order to be Shi'a, and being Shi'a is very difficult, most of us don't reach the standard to qualify. And anyone who calls themself a Sunni must also be a Shi'a or they're confused and not following the true Sunnah. To put simply, anyone who wants to follow the Sunnah of Muhammad (sawa) must actually know what his Sunnah is, and if `Ali ibn Abu Taulib (as) doesn't know then nobody on Earth knows, which is why we look to his narrations and from his pure lineage to understand the true Sunnah without corruption from certain people who either intentionally or unintentionally distorted it.

One who is ÔíÚÉ ÓõäøóÉ "Shi`atu Sunnah" is "Group of the Sunnah", I will explain these terms and why I've chosen to use this:

ÔíÚ -- Shi'a is an Arabic word spelled with the letters "Sheen, Ya, `Ayn"

It has various different contextual meanings and is used in the Qur'an in both positive and negative connotations. The word ÔíÚ appears 8 times in the Qur'an:

Pay particular attention to #6 & #8 below, which are from Chapter 28, verse 15 and chapter 37, verse 83 respectively. It refers to Musa's Shi'a, and Ibrahim as being Shi'a. So the other verses which appear to have negative connotation of this word do not have the same context, or else one who criticizes the use of the term Shi'a is foremost criticizing Allah's calling His Prophets and their loyal companions by this term.

1) Chapter 6, verse 65: Say: He has the power that He should send on you a chastisement from above you or from beneath your feet, or that He should throw you into confusion, (making you) of different parties (Shi'a); and make some of you taste the fighting of others. See how We repeat the communications that they may understand.

2) Chapter 6, verse 159: Surely they who divided their religion into parts (Shi'a) and became sects, you have no concern with them; their affair is only with Allah, then He will inform them of what they did.

3) Chapter 15, verse 10: And certainly We sent (messengers) before you among the nations (Shi'a) of yore.

4) Chapter 19, verse 69: Then We will most certainly draw forth from every sect (Shi'a) of them him who is most exorbitantly rebellious against the Beneficent Allah.

5) Chapter 28, verse 4: Surely Firon exalted himself in the land and made its people into parties (Shi'a), weakening one party from among them; he slaughtered their sons and let their women live; surely he was one of the mischief makers.

6) Chapter 28, verse 15: And he went into the city at a time of unvigilance on the part of its people, so he found therein two men fighting, one being of his party (Shi'a) and the other of his foes, and he who was of his party cried out to him for help against him who was of his enemies, so Musa struck him with his fist and killed him. He said: This is on account of the Shaitan's doing; surely he is an enemy, openly leading astray.

7) Chapter 30, verse 32: Of those who divided their religion and became seas every sect (Shi'a) rejoicing in what they had with them

8) Chapter 37, verse 83: And most surely Ibrahim followed his way (Shi'a).

When we say "Shi'atu" it means "the followers of..." thus Allah uses the term for the followers of Musa (as) in the Qur'an (28:15), and people used the term after the demise of Muhammad (sawa) to differentiate between Ameer al-Mumineen `Ali ibn Abu Taulib (as) and Abu Bakr.

Thus the groups (Shi'a) in the early days were referred to as "Shi'atu `Ali" and "Shi'atu Abu Bakr", and neither rhetorically meant anything negative, rather it was a difference of perspective on Islam between the two.

Now that one understands the brief background of the term "Shi'a" ÔíÚ we can inshallah discuss the term "Sunni" and "Sunnah"

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One who is ÔíÚÉ ÓõäøóÉ "Shi`atu Sunnah" is "Group of the Sunnah"

This implies that there is no "Sunni" and "Shi'a" separate from one another, rather you cannot be a Sunni without being a Shi'a, and you cannot be a Shi'a without being a Sunni; keeping in mind that "Sunni" is one who follows the "Sunnah" and "Shi'a" is one who belongs to the group of the Prophets. Thus the group of the Sunnah "Shi'atu Sunnah" are the Mu'mineen who adhere to the Qur'an and Sunnah, and maintain their love for the Prophets and the Pure Ahlul-Bayt of Muhammad Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå.

- Shi'atu Sunnah

The Lovers of RasoolAllah SAWA and the Ahlul-Bayt AS

Please visit the following facebook page to learn about "Shi'atu Sunnah"

http://www.facebook.com/ShiatuSunnah

The purpose of this group "Shi'atu Sunnah" is simply to share the words of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) and show the message of the Sunnah through their narrations; inshallah to remove the misconception that Shi'a are not Sunni and that Sunni are not Shi'a, this why these terms are not dividing, rather must be united. I cannot call one who disagrees with me a Sunni (adherent to the Sunnah of Muhammad (sawa)) because I must be a Sunni to be a Mu'min, and the one who disagrees with me cannot call me a Shi'a because they must be a Shi'a (group of Muhammad (sawa)) to be a Mu'min.

Insha'Allah this makes sense to everyone and has enlightened us as to the meaning of these terms and where they're used in the Qur'an.

[BillyJo]

Wonderful! Thanks for the info brother

[ImamAliLover]

Yea this is one of the reasons why i don't really like people attaching labels to themselves because it narrows people's focus and they miss the overall picture.

If you are a real Shia (and these are rare), then it means that you are following the Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh) insha'Allah.

And if you are realling following the Sunnah of the Prophet (pbuh) then you are really one of his Shia insha'Allah.

Too many times we get bogged down with names and labels and miss the big picture completely.

[Rocke]

Tashayyu defeats the purpose of being a one unified Ummah, so no... Sunnah (Adjective) is not Shia (Noun)

[mahdi usman]

shia and sunni (bakris according to ur shaikh) are far different version of islam .

Why do I say "Shi'a are Sunni - Sunni are Shi'a"?

when did u come in taqiyya mode ? ur shaikh call sunnis "bakris" and non muslims even worst than non muslims . if u have no tolerance than it does not matter u follow one Allah, one rasul, one quran.

[Dawud Miqdad al-Amriki]

Tashayyu defeats the purpose of being a one unified Ummah, so no... Sunnah (Adjective) is not Shia (Noun)

Not sure how that's relevant to my post, and the proper word to compare with Shi'a would be Sunni, not Sunnah.

shia and sunni (bakris according to ur shaikh) are far different version of islam .

I agree, never said anything about "Sunni Islam" as you're thinking of, I'm referring to the true Sunnah, we Shi'a are the true Sunnis, they have falsely claimed that for themselves.

when did u come in taqiyya mode ? ur shaikh call sunnis "bakris" and non muslims even worst than non muslims . if u have no tolerance than it does not matter u follow one Allah, one rasul, one quran.

I haven't used any taqiyyah in my post, I don't think you read what I wrote at all.

My Sheikh doesn't say Bakris are non-Muslims and worse than non-Muslims, my Sheikh says that Bakris are confused and it is up to us to guide them. Maybe you're referring to the term "Nasibi" which some Bakris are, but not all. Most people who call themself "Sunni" are just uneducated Shi'a, or brainwashed Bakri. That's all.

Shi'atu Sunnah is about showing that Shi'a are the true Sunnis (adherents to Sunnah), I thought my post was very clear on this. Never in my post was I saying we should join "Ahlul Sunnah wal Jamaah" or unite with them on falsehood. Please read my post.

[Rocke]

Not sure how that's relevant to my post, and the proper word to compare with Shi'a would be Sunni, not Sunnah.

Indeed, and Sunnah is supposed to unify the Ummah, not to create sects (Shiya'an)

[Ameen]

Tashayyu defeats the purpose of being a one unified Ummah, so no... Sunnah (Adjective) is not Shia (Noun)

Really??? You make statements but you never seem to explain them with any justification what so ever. If you want people to take you seriously then explain yourself and put up a convincing arguement.

[Dawud Miqdad al-Amriki]

Indeed, and Sunnah is supposed to unify the Ummah, not to create sects (Shiya'an)

Why do you always respond without reading the posts or using logic?

6) Chapter 28, verse 15: And he went into the city at a time of unvigilance on the part of its people, so he found therein two men fighting, one being of his party (Shi'a) and the other of his foes, and he who was of his party cried out to him for help against him who was of his enemies, so Musa struck him with his fist and killed him. He said: This is onaccount of the Shaitan's doing; surely he is an enemy, openly leading astray.

8) Chapter 37, verse 83: And most surely Ibrahim followed his way (Shi'a).

You're saying Ibrahim (as) and Musa (as) broke the faith into Sects?

I notice it's a trend of yours to oppose the Qur'an, contradict Allah, attack the religion of Islam... I honestly believe you do it out of ignorance, but I must point out that you should stop and reconsider your words and stance, inshallah.

[Ameen]

Indeed, and Sunnah is supposed to unify the Ummah, not to create sects (Shiya'an)

Absolutely! Then why do we have various sects within Ahle Sunnah????????????