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Assalam Wa Alaikum

28th Safr marks the demise of Prophet (SAW) and the martyrdom of Imam Hassan (as).

May the curse of Allah be on the enemies of Muhammad (SAW) and his children, his sons, the kings of paradise.

There are many things to ponder over. Is the prophet no more amongst us? Has his role in our lives ended with his physical departure from this world? Muhammad is the Rasool of Allah, not "was". Also, at a time when the passion of Islam was still alive, the companions and their children existed, who killed Imam Hassan (as) and for what motives?

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A proposition is added to www.sdol.org

People ask that if use of waseela, tawassul, is an order of the Quran and people use Prophet (SAW) and the Imams (as) as a waseela, then did these people used waseela themselves?

Proposition 27: Waseela; A matter of Worship

Exact link: http://www26.brinkster.com/sdolshah1/prop28.html

wasalaam

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(bismillah)

(salam)

The Du'a' Tawassul which is found in Mafatih al-Jinan is the same supplication of tawassul which all Sunni narrators of hadith unanimously regard as sahih (authentic) and relate that the Prophet taught it to a blind man who recovered his eyesight by reciting it.[49]

Conclusion

Therefore, in conclusion we can state with authority the following points, since tawassul is an accepted principle in the life of a sincere and God-fearing Muslim, and whatever disputes that have been fanned are due to bigotry and lack of proper understanding of Islam:

Source: http://www.al-islam.org/mot/tawassul.htm#n42

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bismillah

salam

I don't know how Sunni people can not understand the meaning of tawassul.

Tawassul is asking the masters of human kind to do favour for us and they ask Allah (swt) to get us what we need.

Because we are unfortunately full of sin, so we need some one else to help us to achieve our goals. so who is better than the masters of human kind ( our prophet and his tribe (pbuh) )?

I remember when I was child one they I broke our window glass with a stone. when my father decided to punish me I ran and hide behind my mother. she told my father forgive him for my sake. and he forgave me for my mother's sake.

Shia hide behind their prophet and his tribe (pbuh) when perform a sin and asking them to ask Allah(swt) that forgive them for prophet and his tribe's sake.

Shia believe they can not do anything except with Allah (swt) permission . for example they can not cure the sick people or take us to heaven with themselves and etc... without Allah (swt) permission.

If we kiss their holy shrine (Zarrih) that means we love you deep in our heart not worship you instead of Allah (swt)!

THIS IS SO SO SIMPLE TO UNDERSTAND BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO ACCEPT IT!!!.

May Allah (swt) Guide them to the truth.

salaam

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Because we are unfortunately full of sin, so we need some one else to help us to achieve our goals. so who is better than the masters of human kind ( our prophet and his tribe (pbuh) )?

Where does this concept of being too full of sin to ask Allah (swt) directly come from? Certainly not the Qur'an.

And when My servants ask you concerning Me, then surely I am very near; I answer the prayer of the suppliant when he calls on Me, so they should answer My call and believe in Me that they may walk in the right way. [2:186]

And your Lord says: Call upon Me, I will answer you; surely those who are too proud for My service shall soon enter hell abased. [40:60]

Allah says to call on Him and will answer our prayer.

And when affliction touches a man, he calls on Us, whether lying on his side or sitting or standing; but when We remove his affliction from him, he passes on as though he had never called on Us on account of an affliction that touched him; thus that which they do is made fair-seeming to the extravagant. [10:12]

He it is Who makes you travel by land and sea; until when you are in the ships, and they sail on with them in a pleasant breeze, and they rejoice, a violent wind overtakes them and the billows surge in on them from all sides, and they become certain that they are encompassed about, they pray to Allah, being sincere to Him in obedience: If Thou dost deliver us from this, we will most certainly be of the grateful ones. Yet when He hath delivered them, behold! they rebel in the earth wrongfully. O mankind! Your rebellion is only against yourselves. (Ye have) enjoyment of the life of the world; then unto Us is your return and We shall proclaim unto you what ye used to do. [10:22-23]

So are we to believe that the mushrikoon were clean enough to pray to Allah directly, and He would help them, but we aren't?

By the way, how come we don't need intercession in salah when we are reciting Surah al-Fatiha, and making dua to be guided?

More verses from the Qur'an on this issue here for those that are interested:

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"O you who believe! Fear Allah and seek an approach unto Him..."

(Holy Qur'an 5:35)

...Had they, when they had wronged themselves, come to you and asked Allah's forgiveness and the Apostle had asked forgiveness for them, they would certainly have found Allah Most-Propitious, Most-Merciful. (Holy Qur'an 4: 64).

"and seek an approach unto Him" (5:35)

"Alike it is for them whether you seek forgiveness for them or seek not forgiveness for them; Never will God forgive them..." (63:6)

Think not of those who are martyred in the way of Allah as dead. Nay!

They are living, finding their sustenance in the presence of their

Lord." (Quran 3:169)

Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 5.551

Narrated Abu Huraira:

When Khaibar was conquered, a (cooked) sheep containing poison, was

given as a present to Allah's Apostle.

Sahih Bukhari Hadith: 5.713

... Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used

to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at

Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from

that poison."

So they should not be called dead since they are alive according to Quran.

Thus we can make Tawassul to them the same way that the Shia of Moses made

Tawassul to Moses:

"And he (Moses) went into the city at a time when people (of the

city) were not watching, so he found therein two men fighting, one

being of his Shia and the other being his enemy, and the one who was

of his Shia cried out to him for help against the one who was of his

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enemy" (Quran 28:15)

Quran tells us that there exists a means of approaching "al-Wasilah" for us

in each era, which is different than Allah and we should seek him if we

want to approach toward Allah. In fact, both Tawassul and Wasilah are from

the same root. When we make Tawassul, it means that we seek the Mercy of

Allah by resorting to a connection who was more obedient toward Allah and,

as a result, Allah answers his/her prayers faster than us. Allah may

forgive us for the credit and the honor of that man/woman. It is true every

where that doing a job (specially if it is asking for a big courtesy)

without any connection is difficult or might be impossible. Approving such

a courtesy needs credit, and the one without it should resort to the one

who has the credit and the connection. This credit has been acquired by

absolute obedience of Allah. Nonetheless, approving any intercession still

depends on Allah:

"Who can intercedes with Him except the cases that He permits?"

(Quran 2:255) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"They (i.e., prophets and Imams) do not say anything until He orders,

and they act (in all things) by His command. He knows what is

before them and what is behind them and they (i.e., those saints)

offer no intercession except for anyone whom Allah accepts, and they

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

are in awe and reverence of His (glory)." (Quran 21:27-28)

"When the death time of Abdullah Ibn Abbas (ra) approached, he said:

`O Allah! I seek to approach toward you by means of Wilayah (accepting

the mastery) of Ali Ibn Abi Talib.'" ^^^^^^^^^^^

Sunni references:

- Fada'il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p662, Tradition #1129

- al-Riyadh al-Nadhirah, by Muhibbuddin al-Tabari, v3, p167

- Manaqib Ahmad

Please note that Ibn Abbas died in 68/687 which was 28 years after the

martyrdom of Imam Ali (as). If resorting (Tawassul) to a dead was

considered association (shirk), then Ibn Abbas would not dare to say so,

and Ahmad Ibn Hanbal would not have recorded it.

As for resorting to alive, al-Bukhari reported that Umar used make Tawassul

to al-Abbas for rain:

Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 5.59

Narrated Anas:

Whenever there was drought, 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to ask Allah for

rain through Al-'Abbas bin 'Abdul Muttalib, saying, "O Allah! We used

^^^^^^^

to request our Prophet to ask You for rain, and You would give us. Now

we request the uncle of our Prophet to ask You for rain, so give us

rain." And they would be given rain."

Another related question is that: Is kissing the grave of the Prophet

Shirk (association)? Is honoring the belongings of Prophet association?

Sahih al-Bukhari tells us it is NOT Shirk:

Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 1.373

Narrated Abu Juhaifa:

I saw Allah's Apostle in a red leather tent and I saw Bilal taking the

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

remaining water with which the Prophet had performed ablution. I saw

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the people taking the utilized water impatiently and whoever got some

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

of it rubbed it on his body and those who could not get any took the

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

moisture from the others' hands. Then I saw Bilal carrying an 'Anza (a

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

spear-headed stick) which he planted in the ground. The Prophet came

out tucking up his red cloak, and led the people in prayer and offered

two Rakat (facing the Ka'ba) taking 'Anza as a Sutra for his prayer. I

saw the people and animals passing in front of him beyond the 'Anza.

Sahih al-Bukhari Hadith: 7.750

Narrated Abu Juhaifa:

I came to the Prophet while he was inside a red leather tent, and I

saw Bilal taking the remaining water of the ablution of the Prophet,

and the people were taking of that water and rubbing it on their

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

faces; and whoever could not get anything of it, would share the

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

moisture of the hand of his companion (and then rub it on his face).

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

As we see, the great companions were honoring the drop of water which had

touched the Prophet (PBUH&HF).

Sayyid Sharafuddin, a famous Shia scholar, went on pilgrimage to the

House of Allah during the reign of King Abdul Aziz Ibn Saud. He was one of

those who were invited to the King's palace to celebrate the Eid of al-

Adh'ha. When his turn came to shake the King's hand, he presented a leather

bound Quran to the King. The King took the Quran and placed it on his

forehead and then kissed it. Sayyid Sharafuddin said: "O' King! why do

you kiss and glorify the cover which is made of a goat's skin?!" The king

answered: "I meant to glorify the Holy Quran, not the goat's skin." Sayyid

Sharafuddin said: "Well said O' King! We do the same when we kiss the

window or the door of the Prophet's Chamber, we know that it is made of

iron, and could not harm or render a benefit, but we mean what is behind

the iron and wood, we mean to respect the Messenger of Allah in the same

way as you meant with the Quran when you kissed its goat's skin cover."

The audience was impressed by his speech and said: "You are right." The

King was forced to allow the pilgrims to ask for blessings from the

Prophet's relics, until the order was reversed by the successor of that

King.

The issue is not that they are afraid of people associating others with

Allah, rather, it is a political issue based on antagonizing Muslims in

order to consolidate their own power and authority over Muslims, and

history is the witness to what they have done.

http://www.al-islam....ot/tawassul.htm

http://www.al-islam....hapter6b/5.html

No intercessor can plead with Him except by His permission.[103]

Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His permission?[104]

On that Day, no intercession shall avail, except the one from whom Allah, the Most Gracious has given permission and whose word is acceptable to Him.[105]

And they cannot intercede, except for Him with whom He is pleased.[106]

None shall have the power of intercession except one who has received permission or a promise from Allah, the Most Gracious.[107]

Intercession with Him profits none except for those He permits.[108]

(The brothers of Yusuf) said, “O our father! Ask forgiveness from Allah for our sins. Indeed, we have been sinners.” He said, “I will ask my Lord for forgiveness for you.” Verily, He, and only He, is the Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.[109]

I will be interceding on the Day of Judgment for whoever has faith in his heart.[110]

Each prophet before me asked Allah for something which he was granted, and I saved my request until the Day of Judgment for intercession on behalf of my nation.[111]

My intercession will be for the people who committed the cardinal sins (al-kaba΄ir) except shirk and dhulm (polytheism and oppression).23

The Intercessors are five: the Quran, one's near relatives, trusts (amanah), your Prophet, and the family of your Prophet (the Ahlul Bayt).[112]

http://www.al-islam.org/shiism/9.htm

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Where does this concept of being too full of sin to ask Allah (swt) directly come from? Certainly not the Qur'an.

And when My servants ask you concerning Me, then surely I am very near; I answer the prayer of the suppliant when he calls on Me, so they should answer My call and believe in Me that they may walk in the right way. [2:186]

And your Lord says: Call upon Me, I will answer you; surely those who are too proud for My service shall soon enter hell abased. [40:60]

Allah says to call on Him and will answer our prayer.

And when affliction touches a man, he calls on Us, whether lying on his side or sitting or standing; but when We remove his affliction from him, he passes on as though he had never called on Us on account of an affliction that touched him; thus that which they do is made fair-seeming to the extravagant. [10:12]

He it is Who makes you travel by land and sea; until when you are in the ships, and they sail on with them in a pleasant breeze, and they rejoice, a violent wind overtakes them and the billows surge in on them from all sides, and they become certain that they are encompassed about, they pray to Allah, being sincere to Him in obedience: If Thou dost deliver us from this, we will most certainly be of the grateful ones. Yet when He hath delivered them, behold! they rebel in the earth wrongfully. O mankind! Your rebellion is only against yourselves. (Ye have) enjoyment of the life of the world; then unto Us is your return and We shall proclaim unto you what ye used to do. [10:22-23]

So are we to believe that the mushrikoon were clean enough to pray to Allah directly, and He would help them, but we aren't?

By the way, how come we don't need intercession in salah when we are reciting Surah al-Fatiha, and making dua to be guided?

More verses from the Qur'an on this issue here for those that are interested: http://www.shiachat....h-in-the-quran/

How would you interpret the below:

[Shakir 12:97] They said: O our father! ask forgiveness of our faults for us, surely we were sinners.

[Shakir 12:98] He said: I will ask for you forgiveness from my Lord; surely He is the Forgiving, the Merciful.

And why does Hazrat Yusuf (as) not pray for his fathers sight directly to Allah (swt) as opposed to the below:

[Shakir 12:93] Take this my shirt and cast it on my father's face, he will (again) be able to see, and come to me with all your families.

Edited by Kazmi_202

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