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In Need Of Some Hadith Regarding Iblis And Jinns

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In The Name of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, The Most Beneficent, The Most Merciful.

Assalamualaykum wa RAHMATULLAHI WA BARAKATOH.

I hope you all are, INSHALLAH (God Willing), well and in the best of health and Faith (Imaan).

I remember once hearing a lecture whereby the speaker talking about the Jinns and the story of Iblis being ousted from Paradise. Now, the speaker had said before Adam (as) had been created, Jinns were already existing and that Allah (SWT) had sent a severe punishment on the Jinns for their disobedience but Iblis was the best of the Jinns who used to worship him a lot so Allah (SWT) has raised up to the seventh Heaven to live alongside Jibrail (as) when the Jinns were punished due to his high levels of worship. Then, the angels of the first heaven (sky) had come to know from Allah (SWT) that he was going to do something - I don't remember what exactly it was but it something that the angels got worried about. According to what he had said, the angels also have classes and levels and, so, the angels of the first heaven are inferior to those of the second heaven who, in turn, are inferior to those of the third heaven and so on while the angels of the seventh Heaven are the most superior.

So, the lecturer had said these first heaven angels started to panic that this bad thing - as I have said, I don't remember what exactly it was - which Allah (SWT) had mentioned may happen to them so they so went to the angels of the second heaven in order to ask them to intercede for them but these second heaven angels, themselves got worried about what if it was for them and they, in turn, went to angels of the third heaven and so until they all reached the four biggest angels until, at last, they all reached Jibrail (as) who also got worried and suggested they all go to Iblis and ask him to pray to Allah (SWT) because he was so special to Allah (SWT) that He had raised to live with Jibrail (as).

So, they all went to Iblis and asked him to pray on their behalf to which he agreed and then, Allah (SWT) punished Iblis which was his ouster because of his disobedience. Basically, the moral that this lecturer was trying to impart was that when you want to pray for material things like cars, money and their like, you should first pray for your friends, family neighbours etc...like the Ahlulbayt (peace be upon them all) used to do and then lastly for yourself but when it comes to praying for forgiveness and immunity from sin, then you must start with yourself and then go to the others. This is the mistake Iblis made whereby he prayed for all the angels but forgot himself so he was the one who suffered!

Regardless of the moral from this story, what I would like the respected members of this forum to do is, if they can, provide me references for this story IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER THE SOURCE IS SHIA OR SUNNI. :D

By the way, the lecturer was Maulana Sadiq Hasan (some of the oldies may know him as Sadiq Bapu) who is a very, very famous Urdu speaker so I would, most probably, trust his words and be assured that if he says something, then he must have some sources for it.

So, I am looking forward to get the source for this hadith. I am in urgent need of it so I would be very grateful if someone could provide me with a reference to this story! :D

May Allah (SWT) bless us all, our families and loved ones, may He guide us all with His Perfect Guidance and may He, The Forgiver of Sins and The Oft-Forgiving, forgive all our sins for, indeed, there is neither any refuge nor any respite for the sinners except in Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì.

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Im sorry bro, from what i know, Nahjul Balagha has a fair few of them !!! and the Quran itself !

Other then that, most of the "religious" members on here, only have hadiths for Mut3a !

Sorry bro, we suck i know !

Salams

You are wrong! They know about slave girl hadiths too!

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In The Name of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, The Most Beneficent, The Most Merciful.

Assalamualaykum wa RAHMATULLAHI WA BARAKATOH.

I hope you all are, INSHALLAH (God Willing), well and in the best of health and Faith (Imaan).

I remember once hearing a lecture whereby the speaker talking about the Jinns and the story of Iblis being ousted from Paradise. Now, the speaker had said before Adam (as) had been created, Jinns were already existing and that Allah (SWT) had sent a severe punishment on the Jinns for their disobedience but Iblis was the best of the Jinns who used to worship him a lot so Allah (SWT) has raised up to the seventh Heaven to live alongside Jibrail (as) when the Jinns were punished due to his high levels of worship. Then, the angels of the first heaven (sky) had come to know from Allah (SWT) that he was going to do something - I don't remember what exactly it was but it something that the angels got worried about. According to what he had said, the angels also have classes and levels and, so, the angels of the first heaven are inferior to those of the second heaven who, in turn, are inferior to those of the third heaven and so on while the angels of the seventh Heaven are the most superior.

So, the lecturer had said these first heaven angels started to panic that this bad thing - as I have said, I don't remember what exactly it was - which Allah (SWT) had mentioned may happen to them so they so went to the angels of the second heaven in order to ask them to intercede for them but these second heaven angels, themselves got worried about what if it was for them and they, in turn, went to angels of the third heaven and so until they all reached the four biggest angels until, at last, they all reached Jibrail (as) who also got worried and suggested they all go to Iblis and ask him to pray to Allah (SWT) because he was so special to Allah (SWT) that He had raised to live with Jibrail (as).

So, they all went to Iblis and asked him to pray on their behalf to which he agreed and then, Allah (SWT) punished Iblis which was his ouster because of his disobedience. Basically, the moral that this lecturer was trying to impart was that when you want to pray for material things like cars, money and their like, you should first pray for your friends, family neighbours etc...like the Ahlulbayt (peace be upon them all) used to do and then lastly for yourself but when it comes to praying for forgiveness and immunity from sin, then you must start with yourself and then go to the others. This is the mistake Iblis made whereby he prayed for all the angels but forgot himself so he was the one who suffered!

Regardless of the moral from this story, what I would like the respected members of this forum to do is, if they can, provide me references for this story IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER THE SOURCE IS SHIA OR SUNNI. :D

By the way, the lecturer was Maulana Sadiq Hasan (some of the oldies may know him as Sadiq Bapu) who is a very, very famous Urdu speaker so I would, most probably, trust his words and be assured that if he says something, then he must have some sources for it.

So, I am looking forward to get the source for this hadith. I am in urgent need of it so I would be very grateful if someone could provide me with a reference to this story! :D

May Allah (SWT) bless us all, our families and loved ones, may He guide us all with His Perfect Guidance and may He, The Forgiver of Sins and The Oft-Forgiving, forgive all our sins for, indeed, there is neither any refuge nor any respite for the sinners except in Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì.

In The Name of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, The Most Beneficent, The Most Merciful.

Assalamualaykum wa RAHMATULLAHI WA BARAKATOH.

I hope you all are, INSHALLAH (God Willing), well and in the best of health and Faith (Imaan).

I remember once hearing a lecture whereby the speaker talking about the Jinns and the story of Iblis being ousted from Paradise. Now, the speaker had said before Adam (as) had been created, Jinns were already existing and that Allah (SWT) had sent a severe punishment on the Jinns for their disobedience but Iblis was the best of the Jinns who used to worship him a lot so Allah (SWT) has raised up to the seventh Heaven to live alongside Jibrail (as) when the Jinns were punished due to his high levels of worship. Then, the angels of the first heaven (sky) had come to know from Allah (SWT) that he was going to do something - I don't remember what exactly it was but it something that the angels got worried about. According to what he had said, the angels also have classes and levels and, so, the angels of the first heaven are inferior to those of the second heaven who, in turn, are inferior to those of the third heaven and so on while the angels of the seventh Heaven are the most superior.

So, the lecturer had said these first heaven angels started to panic that this bad thing - as I have said, I don't remember what exactly it was - which Allah (SWT) had mentioned may happen to them so they so went to the angels of the second heaven in order to ask them to intercede for them but these second heaven angels, themselves got worried about what if it was for them and they, in turn, went to angels of the third heaven and so until they all reached the four biggest angels until, at last, they all reached Jibrail (as) who also got worried and suggested they all go to Iblis and ask him to pray to Allah (SWT) because he was so special to Allah (SWT) that He had raised to live with Jibrail (as).

So, they all went to Iblis and asked him to pray on their behalf to which he agreed and then, Allah (SWT) punished Iblis which was his ouster because of his disobedience. Basically, the moral that this lecturer was trying to impart was that when you want to pray for material things like cars, money and their like, you should first pray for your friends, family neighbours etc...like the Ahlulbayt (peace be upon them all) used to do and then lastly for yourself but when it comes to praying for forgiveness and immunity from sin, then you must start with yourself and then go to the others. This is the mistake Iblis made whereby he prayed for all the angels but forgot himself so he was the one who suffered!

Regardless of the moral from this story, what I would like the respected members of this forum to do is, if they can, provide me references for this story IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER THE SOURCE IS SHIA OR SUNNI. :D

By the way, the lecturer was Maulana Sadiq Hasan (some of the oldies may know him as Sadiq Bapu) who is a very, very famous Urdu speaker so I would, most probably, trust his words and be assured that if he says something, then he must have some sources for it.

So, I am looking forward to get the source for this hadith. I am in urgent need of it so I would be very grateful if someone could provide me with a reference to this story! :D

May Allah (SWT) bless us all, our families and loved ones, may He guide us all with His Perfect Guidance and may He, The Forgiver of Sins and The Oft-Forgiving, forgive all our sins for, indeed, there is neither any refuge nor any respite for the sinners except in Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì.

sorry brother i cant belive this hadith you just said because as it is know and us shia belive is that nor adam nor iblis nor any angel has been in heaven rather they have only been in temporary heaven

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