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According to AP

The most likely candidate for the throne after Sultan is Prince Nayef. Abdullah has been seen as a reformer, making incremental changes to improve the position of women, for example, and to modernize the kingdom despite some backlash from the ultra-conservative Wahhabi clerics who give the royal family the religious legitimacy needed to rule. Nayef, for example, is often seen as closer to the clerics. :donno:

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According to AP

The most likely candidate for the throne after Sultan is Prince Nayef. Abdullah has been seen as a reformer, making incremental changes to improve the position of women, for example, and to modernize the kingdom despite some backlash from the ultra-conservative Wahhabi clerics who give the royal family the religious legitimacy needed to rule. Nayef, for example, is often seen as closer to the clerics. :donno:

Allah works in mysterious ways.

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According to AP

The most likely candidate for the throne after Sultan is Prince Nayef. Abdullah has been seen as a reformer, making incremental changes to improve the position of women, for example, and to modernize the kingdom despite some backlash from the ultra-conservative Wahhabi clerics who give the royal family the religious legitimacy needed to rule. Nayef, for example, is often seen as closer to the clerics. :donno:

According to AP

The most likely candidate for the throne after Sultan is Prince Nayef. Abdullah has been seen as a reformer, making incremental changes to improve the position of women, for example, and to modernize the kingdom despite some backlash from the ultra-conservative Wahhabi clerics who give the royal family the religious legitimacy needed to rule. Nayef, for example, is often seen as closer to the clerics. :donno:

would not the other prince try to get the crown after abdullah death? Even if Nayef gets the the crown i think other princes will go against him, for the crown.

Well, if the king dies too, they should replace him with a wise one.. because Saudiism seems to be in danger, they need to respect Shias rights in the country and in the Muslim world.

not going to happen brother wahabies and shias are 2 sides of the coin likes heads and tail

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not going to happen brother wahabies and shias are 2 sides of the coin likes heads and tail

No one is asking for their mercy... It is a demand, that may follow protests and struggles for freedom. No one gave Lebanese, Iraqi or Yemeni Shias their rights, same with Bahrain, they stood for it and sacrificed themselves and eventually will reach to their goals. The people in Saudi will eventually slap them hard.. even if they lose their lives.

The Wahabi brand of Saudi government is just some puppets, if they fund Shia Allawi in Iraq in order to gain access and influence there, then they will eventually make deals with their own Shia citizens in order to stay in power or without trouble.

They did enough dirty works in Bahrain against Shia Arabs, that really was the plan and that leaves no room for Shias of the region to ever trust or have peaceful approaches toward Saudi government.

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The entire family should die. Clueless for the better part of the 20th and 21st centuries. King Abdul Aziz, i.e the founder of Saudi Arabia and sometimes called "Bismarck of Arabia" was the only wise man in the entire family, from the 1973 onwards too much money went to their heads. They just sold away their country to foreigners, they woke up only after 2003, after the first cruise misiles started raining down on Baghdad, the real nature of their "all weather friend".

Btw isn't Nayef the Interior Minister ? He's a tough son of a [Edited Out] and you know in KSA the Interior Ministry is more powerful and efficient than the Military.

Edited by Professor Higgins

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The entire family should die. Clueless for the better part of the 20th and 21st centuries. King Abdul Aziz, i.e the founder of Saudi Arabia and sometimes called "Bismarck of Arabia" was the only wise man in the entire family, from the 1973 onwards too much money went to their heads. They just sold away their country to foreigners, they woke up only after 2003, after the first cruise misiles started raining down on Baghdad, the real nature of their "all weather friend".

Btw isn't Nayef the Interior Minister ? He's a tough son of a [Edited Out] and you know in KSA the Interior Ministry is more powerful and efficient than the Military.

The military of Saudi Arabia has only deployed basically once in modern history; that is recently to crush the unarmed Bahraini Shi'a Muslim protesters who had nothing but signs and Bahraini national flags in hand. The Saudi military is so pathetic, as they purchase overpriced US military hardware that they can never use because (putting aside that the US and "Israel" control the Saudi monarchy) the stupid Saudi military likely would not even know how to operate their own weapons. Insha'Allah the Islamic Republic of Iran would absolutely wipe the floor with the military of the Saudi monarchy (if Saudi didn't have the Amerikkkan Empire imperialists, Zionist "Israel", all of Europe, and others backing them up).

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The entire family should die.

Btw isn't Nayef the Interior Minister ? He's a tough son of a [Edited Out] and you know in KSA the Interior Ministry is more powerful and efficient than the Military.

Life is given and taken by God. Let him to decide on that. I hope they are guided and see the reality of the time and do something positive for themselves and for their country and citizens before it is too late.

On Nayef: It really doesn't matter who is going to take charge.. Be it Nayef or Tayef or X or Y... only time, right judgment and good politics will help them. What possibly a tough Saudi king can do that a weak cannot? It is not a boxing ring or some kind of wrestling competition that we need to expect the worse from a tough guy.

Same Saudi Arabia, with same military with same challenges and same power will have a different king.

One thing for sure might change in the benefits of oppositions if a Bush brand of America is replaced in Saudi (for example the so called tough Nayef), with stupid moves can doom the country and their family revenue once and for all.

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Life is given and taken by God. Let him to decide on that. I hope they are guided and see the reality of the time and do something positive for themselves and for their country and citizens before it is too late.

On Nayef: It really doesn't matter who is going to take charge.. Be it Nayef or Tayef or X or Y... only time, right judgment and good politics will help them. What possibly a tough Saudi king can do that a weak cannot? It is not a boxing ring or some kind of wrestling competition that we need to expect the worse from a tough guy.

Same Saudi Arabia, with same military with same challenges and same power will have a different king.

One thing for sure might change in the benefits of oppositions if a Bush brand of America is replaced in Saudi (for example the so called tough Nayef), with stupid moves can doom the country and their family revenue once and for all.

Nayef controls the Interior Ministry which means the Police, Internal security apparatus and Mukahbarat al Aamah, he is considered to be closer to the religious establishment, anti-America, anti-Iran, basicaslly your typical average close-minded conservative Najdi. He was also opposed to the US invasion of Iraq and also inviting foreign troops during First Gulf War. So I think there will be great friction and tension between US and KSA, I think Iran might team up with USA to attack Saudi, it will be really interesting if it gets to that, hehehe, becoz basically if Nayeg becomes King then you have another Saddam type ( i.e, both anti-Iran and anti-USA). I think Nayef should launch a purge or internak coup against the pro-USA elements of thee royal family by framing members of the royal family in a "plot" , and then exiling them or killing them, u know the same way Saddam purged the Baath party back in 1979 by using a public show trial, that was classic. Anyway if USA attacks KSA, Saudi will go back to Stone Age within 3 days , anyway that is better than being a lame US puppet, like Abdullah.

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Nayef controls the Interior Ministry which means the Police, Internal security apparatus and Mukahbarat al Aamah, he is considered to be closer to the religious establishment, anti-America, anti-Iran, basicaslly your typical average close-minded conservative Najdi. He was also opposed to the US invasion of Iraq and also inviting foreign troops during First Gulf War. So I think there will be great friction and tension between US and KSA, I think Iran might team up with USA to attack Saudi, it will be really interesting if it gets to that, hehehe, becoz basically if Nayeg becomes King then you have another Saddam type ( i.e, both anti-Iran and anti-USA). I think Nayef should launch a purge or internak coup against the pro-USA elements of thee royal family by framing members of the royal family in a "plot" , and then exiling them or killing them, u know the same way Saddam purged the Baath party back in 1979 by using a public show trial, that was classic. Anyway if USA attacks KSA, Saudi will go back to Stone Age within 3 days , anyway that is better than being a lame US puppet, like Abdullah.

I highly doubt Nayef is as anywhere near as allegedly "anti-US" as you claim. And if for some reason he was he will never get to be King while still holding such alleged views and the rest of the al-Saud "royal" family will make sure he never gets anywhere near the throne as they don't want the al-Saud family's gravy train from their US imperialist master's to end! For example in the past you had in the 1960s era the so-called "Free Princes Movement" of Saudi princes that supported Gamal Abdel Nasser in Egypt and had to go into exile living in Egypt for a time http://en.wikipedia....rinces_Movement.

Also Saddam was not "anti-US" lol, he was the imperialist Amerikkkan's long time puppet (going back to 1959 even http://www.informati...article2849.htm "Saddam Was Key In Early CIA Plot" again from all the way back in 1959 against the then pro-Soviet Iraqi leader Gen. Abd al-Karim Qasim who not only withdrew Iraq from the West's "Baghdad Pact" and was improving relations with the Soviet Union. Gen. Abd al-Karim Qasim also started allowing many domestic Iraqi Communists to occupy positions of real political power in the Iraqi government, something that deeply angered and scared the imperialist US regime as this was in the height of the "Cold War" and the "Red scare" against Communism in Amerikkka itself)! Saddam only became an enemy of the US after he made the critical mistake of thinking he had a US green light to invade the monarchy in Kuwait. Read on Saddam and April Glaspie's meeting in Baghdad in 1990 (the then US ambassador to Saddam's Iraq April Glaspie who trickingly told Saddam that the US regime "has no opinion on your Arab-Arab affairs" like those Saddam had with the monarchy in Kuwait at that time).

Edited by Basra

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