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What Alternate Of Wilayat Ul Faqih You Have?

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(salam)

There are many people who say that Wilayat ul Faqih is non islamic norm and has no basis in Shia faith. I want to know what alternative they have for Wilayatul Faqih?

1. A secular Shia state where people are at liberty to perform their religious deeds? What about the public law in that state? That would be Shia law or some other law?

2. A religious Shia state ruled by secular regime where Shia scholars have no authority? How will be Shia law applicable there?

Looking forward for your valuable response.

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Some famous wali ul faqih in history have been Malik e Ashtar, Muhahhamd ibn Abu Bakr, Hazrat Muslim bin Aqeel, and the 4 famous naibeen of Imam Al Asr (atf) all appointed for certain areas by the Imam of that time in their own physical absence.

Those who oppose wilayat ul faqih want us to live like Sunnis (without any leadership, open to be pillaged and manipulated, fooled by every Lawrence of Arabias, OBL and Mullah Omer).

If wilayat ul faqih has no basis in Islam, then Imamat has no basis as well. Both are the one and same, one is appointed by Allah, other is appointed as proxy as stipulated in the Hadith of Masoom Imam (as). The later would become void once Imam of this time inshAllah is going to come and again physically appoint many many more wilayat ul faqihs to run the affairs of all parts of the globe just like during the physical governments of Imam Ali (as), Imam Hassan (as), and for a brief period of Imam Hussain (as) revolution.

To answer your question, in the absence of Imam (as), there is no other alternative of leadership other than the wilayat ul faqih.

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(salam)

There are many people who say that Wilayat ul Faqih is non islamic norm and has no basis in Shia faith. I want to know what alternative they have for Wilayatul Faqih?

1. A secular Shia state where people are at liberty to perform their religious deeds? What about the public law in that state? That would be Shia law or some other law?

2. A religious Shia state ruled by secular regime where Shia scholars have no authority? How will be Shia law applicable there?

Looking forward for your valuable response.

Brother are you honestly surprised?

These people are even against the implementation of Islamic criminal punishments in gheibat; what makes you think they would accept a strong, central, unitary leadership?

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You can elect the WF just as you elect the President, and it could be for a short term. Or you can have a council of scholars elected by the people that watch the government and make sure they don't do anything against Islam.

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Salam 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh

First of all I would like to say if I am wrong then someone please correct me so inshallah I learn from my mistake.

From what I know I think Wilayatul Faqih is all Shi'a following one person (Most Likely Sayyid Ali Khamenei) who then decides the religious rulings?

Wouldn't it be safer to do taqleed because there are some scholars who are thought to be more knowledgeable than others by certain people so why doesn't everyone follow him who they find most knowledgeable and if they are wrong then it is their fault?

Like I said at the beginning if I have gotten the concept of Wilayatul Faqih wrong then my mistake, please correct me.

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absence f that made the sunnis n all others..............

just go back to d time when d last imam(atf) went into major occultation; only den the muslim world became free of authority nd all these newly sects were formed, n one more imp. thing that before that sects were also formed even in dat peiod bt were busy in suppressing the imams cz f d fear f dcentralised authority amongst d guided muslims f the divinely guided imams.(pbut). so it was d wish f god that our last imam should go into occultation n world should b left wd no cantralised authority and people themselces should find out d right path after so many sacrifices made by d loved ones f god...........but v alwasys look forward for someone to guide us n d judgement varies..........

dis may not b an answer 2 ur question bt i found d answer thru this............

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From what I know I think Wilayatul Faqih is all Shi'a following one person (Most Likely Sayyid Ali Khamenei) who then decides the religious rulings?

^^ Following one person in matters relating to the administration of the Islamic country and general affairs of Muslims. While, every follower is obliged to follow his own Marja in absolutely personal issues.

In other words the issue of Wilayatul Faqih is more concerned with matters relating to the administration of the Islamic country and general affairs of Muslims AND not with personal fiqhi issues.

Wouldn't it be safer to do taqleed because there are some scholars who are thought to be more knowledgeable than others by certain people so why doesn't everyone follow him who they find most knowledgeable and if they are wrong then it is their fault?

Yes, regarding personal fiqhi issues people should find the most knowledgeable Marja and follow him.

absence f that made the sunnis n all others..............

just go back to d time when d last imam(atf) went into major occultation; only den the muslim world became free of authority nd all these newly sects were formed, n one more imp. thing that before that sects were also formed even in dat peiod bt were busy in suppressing the imams cz f d fear f dcentralised authority amongst d guided muslims f the divinely guided imams.(pbut). so it was d wish f god that our last imam should go into occultation n world should b left wd no cantralised authority and people themselces should find out d right path after so many sacrifices made by d loved ones f god...........but v alwasys look forward for someone to guide us n d judgement varies..........

dis may not b an answer 2 ur question bt i found d answer thru this............

^^ Before the beginning of Major occultation Imam (atf) directed us towards qualified scholars. So centralized authority still remained in the form of qualified fuqha.

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^^ Following one person in matters relating to the administration of the Islamic country and general affairs of Muslims. While, every follower is obliged to follow his own Marja in absolutely personal issues.

In other words the issue of Wilayatul Faqih is more concerned with matters relating to the administration of the Islamic country and general affairs of Muslims AND not with personal fiqhi issues.

Yes, regarding personal fiqhi issues people should find the most knowledgeable Marja and follow him.

^^ Before the beginning of Major occultation Imam (atf) directed us towards qualified scholars. So centralized authority still remained in the form of qualified fuqha.

thanks for d information...........i didnt knew dat.

can u please tell me d names of the scholars appointed by oue last imam(a.s)

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@Orion I see. Jazakallah for clearing up the confusion for me. I thought Wilayatul Faqih meant everyone does taqleed to the leader of the Islamic country which in this case would be Sayyid Ali Khamenei.

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(salam)

WF maybe one of the possible systems of running a Shia government out there but it's certainly not the only one, as people tend to believe.

The alternate is obvious and, logically makes more sense. There is no one supreme power, but rather several of them. A body of several top scholars would take the place of a single leader, thus minimizing the chances of any error on the leader's part. Whats wrong with such a system until the Imam (ajf) returns?

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can u please tell me d names of the scholars appointed by oue last imam(a.s)

During Minor occultation the following were Imam's (atf) directly appointed representatives.

1. Uthman ibn Sa'id al-'Amravi
2. Muhammad ibn Uthman 'Amravi
3. Abu'l Qasim Husayn ibn Ruh Nawbakhti
4. Abu'l Hasan Ali ibn Muhammad al-Simmari

During the stage of minor occultation the Imam (atf) disappeared from the public scene, but maintained his contact with his followers through his representatives who formed a connecting link between him and those who believed in his role as an Imam. These four persons performed the duties of his vicegerent in the above order. As and when one of them died, another was duly appointed by the Imam (atf) to succeed him.

The representatives were in contact with: the Shia. They carried their questions to the Imam (atf) and submitted their problems to him. They also conveyed the Imam's replies to his followers. The replies used to be mostly in writing and were occasionally verbal.

Al-Simmari was the last vicegerent. He announced the end of the stage of the minor occultation, the distinctive feature of which was the appointment of the particular representative. It was turned into the
Major occultation
after its object had been achieved and the Shia had gradually adapted themselves to the absence of the Imam. Following the major occultation, instead of being represented by a specially appointed vicegerent,
the Imam is now represented in a
general way
by the qualified
mujtahids
(eminent legists, capable of arriving at an independent decision on issues of religious law) having a keen insight into both the spiritual and temporal affairs.
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WF maybe one of the possible systems of running a Shia government out there but it's certainly not the only one, as people tend to believe.

The alternate is obvious and, logically makes more sense. There is no one supreme power, but rather several of them. A body of several top scholars would take the place of a single leader, thus minimizing the chances of any error on the leader's part. Whats wrong with such a system until the Imam (ajf) returns?

Having a council of scholars (shura), as you have said, is an option. But Its not a separate or alternative system but rather a part of the WF concept. In fact the Iranian constitution allowed the formation of a leadership council as an alternative if they fail to appoint a single faqih as the leader.

I had done some reading on the issue some time ago. Having a council of scholars (shura) is an option but its not the best option. Running an Islamic state under the guidance of a council of scholars has its own problems. For example:

-how will we justify a council according to quran and sunnah. I mean is there an example where Prophet or Imams made such a council or directed Shia to follow a council.

-who will be included in such a council, and who will be excluded. What I mean to say that we have some scholars who have followers (in taqlid) but these scholars are not recognized by some other scholars. So what will happen to them and their followers. We may end up causing more divisions among shia!

-If the council scholars differ on an issue (which they certainly will) how will they decide? consensus or majority vote?

-how will we justify making something wajib based on majority vote? the concept of taqlid is based on ilmiyat (being more knowledgeable) and not on vote.

-how would an scholar sign on a decision that he considers wrong according to his ijtehad?

-delays in decisions.

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I want to know what alternative they have for Wilayatul Faqih?

1) WF's powers confined to the country they serve.

2) WF elected by the citizens of the nation.

That'll be a good start.

Some famous wali ul faqih in history have been Malik e Ashtar, Muhahhamd ibn Abu Bakr, Hazrat Muslim bin Aqeel, and the 4 famous naibeen of Imam Al Asr (atf) all appointed for certain areas by the Imam of that time in their own physical absence.

Wrong. They were not WF, they never had absolute power over Muslims.

The only 2 fallible WF in Shia history are Khomenei and Khamenei.

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2 q's to uglyjin:

1. Who says current WFs have absolute power over muslims? I though it was only limited to political affairs.

2. Why the people appointed by a Masoom Imam (as) would not have the same absolute power over people by proxy as the Imam (as) himself has? Say 3rd Imam (as) is physically between Makkah and Madina and Muslim bin Aqeel (ra) taking oath on bahlf of 3rd Imam in Kufa.

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(salam)

I am not sure why people think that the only legitimate Shia Islamic Government system is Wilayah al-Faqih.

I would prefer a straight democracy where you don't need to be wearing a robe or be a member of a certain party to compete.

The clerics should have the freedom to be active politically but I am not in favor of giving them extra leverages in a political system.

Oh and I absolutely hate socialism/communism, monarchies or tribalism.

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(salam)

I am not sure why people think that the only legitimate Shia Islamic Government system is Wilayah al-Faqih.

I would prefer a straight democracy where you don't need to be wearing a robe or be a member of a certain party to compete.

The clerics should have the freedom to be active politically but I am not in favor of giving them extra leverages in a political system.

Oh and I absolutely hate socialism/communism, monarchies or tribalism.

Waliyat ul faqih = would you follow a person who follows partly the western culture, partly Islam, partly his culture, partly his biases OR would you follow a person who is known to be among those who are the most knowledgable and best followers of the life and sunnah of Prophet (pbuh?

I will chose the later and would feel safe and my interests secured under the person who is the perfect "Sunni" of the pure sunnah of Prophet and Imams (as).

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2 q's to uglyjin:

1. Who says current WFs have absolute power over muslims? I though it was only limited to political affairs.

2. Why the people appointed by a Masoom Imam (as) would not have the same absolute power over people by proxy as the Imam (as) himself has? Say 3rd Imam (as) is physically between Makkah and Madina and Muslim bin Aqeel (ra) taking oath on bahlf of 3rd Imam in Kufa.

Khomeini:

"When we say that after the Occultation, the just faqīh has the same authority that the Most Noble Messenger and the Imāms (‘a) had, do not imagine that the status of the faqīh is identical to that of the Imāms and the Prophet (‘a). For here we are not speaking of status, but rather of function. By “authority” we mean government, the administration of the country, and the implementation of the sacred laws of the sharī‘ah. These constitute a serious, difficult duty but do not earn anyone extraordinary status or raise him above the level of common humanity. In other words, authority here has the meaning of government, administration, and execution of law; contrary to what many people believe, it is not a privilege, but a grave responsibility."

(Imam Khomeini (AR), Hukumat e Islami, section 3)

Orion's post

http://www.shiachat....ost__p__2253121

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^^ the above quote clearly says: authority here has the meaning of government, administration, and execution of law. This means it has limitations as Br. Waiting for HIM has pointed out.

I am not sure why people think that the only legitimate Shia Islamic Government system is Wilayah al-Faqih.

I would prefer a straight democracy where you don't need to be wearing a robe or be a member of a certain party to compete.

The clerics should have the freedom to be active politically but I am not in favor of giving them extra leverages in a political system.

Oh and I absolutely hate socialism/communism, monarchies or tribalism.

In an Islamic government, sharia is the law of the land. And clerics are experts in sharia law. That is why the final decision making authority has to be with a qualified cleric.

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Orion! :D

^^ the above quote clearly says: authority here has the meaning of government, administration, and execution of law. This means it has limitations as Br. Waiting for HIM has pointed out.

You dare contradict Khomenei!? ^_^

"in his book al-Ba`y, Imam Khomeini stresses that the authority of wali-e faqih is unlimited."

http://rkhomeini.org...chstr=undefined

I'm sure you read his book.

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Orion! :D

You dare contradict Khomenei!? ^_^

"in his book al-Ba`y, Imam Khomeini stresses that the authority of wali-e faqih is unlimited."

http://rkhomeini.org...chstr=undefined

I'm sure you read his book.

Why are you, a goddamned Sunni entering a discussion which is supposed to be conducted among Shias only? Get lost. You're gonna get banned soon anyway.

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Why are you, a goddamned Sunni entering a discussion which is supposed to be conducted among Shias only? Get lost. You're gonna get banned soon anyway.

Awww...someone is mad on the internet :(

Unfortunately for you, I'm not Sunni. Don't try too hard next time.

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(bismillah)

(salam)

Unfortunately for you, I'm not Sunni.

Fortunately for me, your theory is against the mainstream belief of Shia school of thought so I'll let them discuss it with you. ;)

what not a bird sunni or a plane shia

ah get it super confused(hidthian jiddan) closet salafi/wahabbi also known as ahle hadith

(wasalam)

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During Minor occultation the following were Imam's (atf) directly appointed representatives.

1. Uthman ibn Sa'id al-'Amravi
2. Muhammad ibn Uthman 'Amravi
3. Abu'l Qasim Husayn ibn Ruh Nawbakhti
4. Abu'l Hasan Ali ibn Muhammad al-Simmari

Salam brother,

1. Is Khomeini and/or Khamenei directly appointed personally by the Imam Mahdi (aft)?

2. Who appointed Khamenei?

3. Who will appoint the successor to Khamenei?

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Awww...someone is mad on the internet :(

Unfortunately for you, I'm not Sunni. Don't try too hard next time.

Lying is a sin, stop ly--- wait... Aisha and Umar had a thing for lying as always. I guess it's natural to follow in the footsteps of your ancestors. I don't blame you.

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Lying is a sin, stop ly--- wait... Aisha and Umar had a thing for lying as always. I guess it's natural to follow in the footsteps of your ancestors. I don't blame you.

(bismillah)

(salam)

bro legio, ugly jinn(the nick is picture perfect) is not lying

he is not a sunni

he is a salafi/wahabbi/ahle hadith

these guys use the wrong understanding of taqiyya to portray themselves as sunnis.

(wasalam)

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Salam brother,

1. Is Khomeini and/or Khamenei directly appointed personally by the Imam Mahdi (aft)?

2. Who appointed Khamenei?

3. Who will appoint the successor to Khamenei?

(salam)

During Major occultation representatives are not appointed personally by the Imam Mahdi (aft). Any scholars who attain the qualities specified by the Masoomeen (as) are considered the general representatives of our Imam (atf). They are identified/appointed by Ahly Khubra. So to answer your questions:

1. Is Khomeini and/or Khamenei directly appointed personally by the Imam Mahdi (aft)?

No.

2. Who appointed Khamenei?

Majlis e Khabargan,

3. Who will appoint the successor to Khamenei?

Majlis e Khabargan,

Orion! :D

You dare contradict Khomenei!? ^_^

I am quoting what Imam Khomeini said from your own post. You should atleast read before you post something.

"in his book al-Ba`y, Imam Khomeini stresses that the authority of wali-e faqih is unlimited."

http://rkhomeini.org...chstr=undefined

I'm sure you read his book.

Yes, its unlimited BUT its unlimited in respect to government, administration, and execution of law. WF has no jurisdiction over individual fiqhi issues. In those matters people should follow their respective Marjas.

You see, in every country someone has the final authority. It could be the parliament, president, the chief justice of the supreme court or someone else. In an Islamic government final authority is with the WF.

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(salam)

I am not sure why people think that the only legitimate Shia Islamic Government system is Wilayah al-Faqih.

I would prefer a straight democracy where you don't need to be wearing a robe or be a member of a certain party to compete.

The clerics should have the freedom to be active politically but I am not in favor of giving them extra leverages in a political system.

Oh and I absolutely hate socialism/communism, monarchies or tribalism.

How a western type democracy run the country Islamically? Urdu Poet Iqbal Said "Juda Ho Dean Siyasat Sae Toe Reh Jatee Hai Changaizee" (If Politics is separated from religion then it becomes the rule of Changaiz Khan). Only religious authority knows what are the Islamic laws and how those laws should be implemented. Logically this rule is far better than dirty politics of secular politicians who obviously will follow western political principles instead of Islamic. For further security Wali e Faqih is elected by renown scholars and not by corrupt secular politicians.

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(salam)

WILAYAT AL-FAQIH

(Supreme Jurist Leadership)

The guidance of Ummah is a continuous process, which is needed even during the occultation of Imam Mahdi (ATF), so who will take the responsibility of leading and guiding the Ummah during this time? The answer to this question lies in the rule of just, pious and virtuous jurists so that we may faithfully follow them and seek guidance in the affairs of life. Our divine religion Islam has rules for every walk of life. There are laws for economic, social, civil, and spiritual affairs. These laws have not been put in suspension during the occultation of Imam (ATF), nor can we be assigned to an ignorant and corrupt ruler for leadership, so naturally there is genuine need for just, pious and learned men to lead Ummah. The obedience to these jurists by the people is as obligatory as it is to the Holy Prophet (SAW) and the Infallible Imam (as). We must also have in mind that adherence to full Islamic rules is not possible until there is an Islamic government. So the necessity of an Islamic government cannot be ruled out even during the occultation of Imam (ATF).

Now, there are a number of questions, which arise and must be answered:

Do the Muslims need some system of Government? Should an Islamic State be protected and defended or not? Should the lands be safeguarded? Should laws be promulgated in an Islamic State? Should the right of the oppressed be restored to him? Should or should not the voice of Islam reach every nook and corner of the world? Were the teachings of the Prophets and the Imams confined to their time only or were they applicable to all places and all times? If the answers to these, questions lie in affirmative. If we want to safeguard our land, resources, culture, faith from the onslaught of enemies of Islam. If the very structure and essence of Islam is to be protected, then surely we need an Islamic Government, which should be based on the lines of guidance from holy Quran and Sunna.

If the government is necessary then the ruler is also necessary, because the government cannot be run without a ruler. Therefore, since Islam needs a government for enforcing its laws, we should find out the qualifications of the ruler and know whether he has a deep understanding of the Divine commandments, is just and competent, and can appreciate and face difficulties. If it is necessary that the ruler should be a true Muslim, well informed, pious, virtuous and statesman, then that person must be a jurist, and his government will be called the government of the jurist.

Those, who do not believe in the concept of the guardianship of a jurist should study the following viewpoints and accept anyone of them:

(i) Islam is confined only to prayers, fasting, individual worship, moral values only and it does not envisage the solution of social problems, justice, political and economic problems.

(ii) Islam was only meant for the duration of the lifetime of the Holy Prophet only, and it was abandoned after him and now its important social problems are confined only in books.

(iii) Important social laws; should be enforced by the ignorant and wicked persons only.

If none of the above-quoted view-points is acceptable or appeals to reason, then we must accept the guardianship of the jurist, which means that the enforcement of Islamic laws and solution of difficult problems should be solved by eminent Muslim scholars and thus we must not think that the guardianship of the jurist is unjustifiable.

Is it not narrated from Imam Ja'far Sadiq (as) that: "In the Holy Qur'an all the individual and collective needs of the society have been described".

Hence, are the government, ruler, administration and various fields of human activities not included among the important needs of the society?

The Holy Prophet said, "I am grateful to Allah that I have described all the requirements of the Ummah before my death".

Imam Ali Reza (as) while dealing with the problem of guardianship says, "There is no nation which is without its leader and the social structure of a society is directly concerned with the leader and that people should manage the public treasury by keeping an account of its income and expenditure, organize the society, fight against the enemies and protect the society from internal dissensions and disunity. If there is not going to be any such leader, then the nation will break up into pieces and the Divine commandments and the teachings of the Holy Prophet will be tampered with at the command of despotic ruler".

You will note that the, question of leadership and the government has been stated to be the most important problem by Imam Ali Reza (as). It is obvious that for the benefit of the poor masses management of the public treasury, equitable distribution of wealth, struggle against enemies, administration of social institutions are not such that they are only concerned with the time of the previous infallible Imams and that the Ummah should be left to itself during the occultation of our living Imam Mahdi (ATF) that is to say, there should be no need of a government or a ruler during the period of occultation.

Thus Islam acknowledges the existence of the society and the necessity of the government and its ruler, but what is important is that we should know the conditions and qualifications of the ruler, and what type of the government it should be and how it should carry on the administration.

According to common sense and keeping in view the various Islamic narrations, the responsibility of the government should be laid on the shoulders of the just jurist. We reproduce here excerpts from some narrations:

(i). The Holy Prophet considered the jurists as his caliph.

(ii). The living Imam Mahdi (ATF) with his own hand wrote in reply to a letter: "You should refer to our narrators about your problems and difficulties for they are our argument and proof on you just as we are the argument and proof of Allah".

(iii) When Imam Ja'far Sadiq (as) was asked about the problems, which are referred to despotic administration for decision he said, "Referring to these departments is very bad because it is referring to the despot and if someone gets back his right from these despotic departments it becomes unlawful. On such occasions however, it is your duty to refer to those people who know our teachings and narrations fully well, because I declare them as the Qazi (Judge) for you. Thus you should remember that if this jurist has given you his decision and you consider it worthless it is as if you have considered the Divine command as worthless. If anyone disobeys these jurists, it is as if he has disobeyed us, and whosoever disobeys us, has in fact disobeyed Allah and this action amounts to polytheism".

(iv) The Holy Prophet (SAW) said, "Scholars are the successors of the Prophets". (Wasa'il, vol. XVIII, chapter 11)

(v) Imam Kazim (as) said: "Jurists are the fortresses of Islam". (Kitabal Bai', Ayatullah Khumayni)

(vi) Allah (SWT) has taken an assurance from the scholars that they would not pass over the gluttony and oppression of the despots in silence and would not ignore the hunger of the poor. (Nahjul Balagha)

Naturally in a society supporting the oppressed and crushing the tyrant do need a government or its operative agency.

(vii) In the Holy Qur'an we have been taught that in a society we should stick to justice. Can justice in a society be maintained without the existence of a government or a ruler?

(viii) Imam Hussain (as) says, "Discharging of the duties and the enforcement of laws should be in the hands of the scholars, God-fearing and pious persons. These are the people who do not make any changes in the Divine commands pertaining to lawful and unlawful things, and who are the custodians of trusts". (Tuhaful 'Uqul, p. 242)

(ix) Imam Ali (as) says, "Scholars are the rulers of the people". (Ghurarul Hikam, quoted from alHayat, vol. II, p. 293)

Thus it is deduced that in an Islamic society the head of the government should be a just jurist with all the prescribed qualifications. These very jurists are the authorized representatives of the infallible Imams during the period of the occultation of our living Imam Mahdi (ATF). If the authority and guardianship of the jurist is terminated, the despots would raise their heads and the Divine commandments will be altered.

Now after the above discussion we would like to ask few questions about the intentions and objectives of the persons opposing the concept of government by a just and righteous jurist:

● Do they say that for Muslims no government and no administration are necessary?

● Do they say that some system is necessary but there is no necessity of an administrator, ruler or guardian?

● Do they say that guardians and the rulers of the people should be those who have no concern with Islam?

● Do they say that the ruler should be a jurist and Muslim but it is not necessary that he should be just and pious?

● Do they consider that guardianship of the jurist is some sort of a dominating force? Is the jurist a representative of a particular group or class of people?

● Does the selfishness of the jurist not nullify his sense of justice and fair play by which his guardianship in the society will automatically cease to exist?

We would ask those who oppose the guardianship of the jurist as to whom they want to entrust the affairs of the Ummah? We ask whether the Muslims should not follow someone in their affairs or is their following restricted to worship of Allah only? Is there not the possibility of a lawful or an unlawful thing in matters of social problems such as strikes, rehabilitation, travels, disputes, agreements, pacts, appointments, dismissal etc.? Should we not follow some jurist in all those matters where there is a question of lawfulness and unlawfulness? Should the leadership of the Muslims be entrusted to an un-Islamic leader? Will it not be like handing over the administration of a medical college to a man who is not a physician himself?

Has the time not come when we should protect ourselves from false leadership, unscrupulous politicians and professional opportunists, we should come under the Islamic protection, and accept only that leadership, which is compatible with the standard laid down by Qur'anic revelations.

To run Islamic government we need the guardianship of Wilayat al-Faqih, Imam Khomeini in his book “Islamic Government” discusses the concept in details. According to him: “Wilayah means government, administration and leadership of the country… Wilayat al-faqih is a legal issue established by the Shari'ah. Just as the Shari'ah has made each one of us the guardian of his minor children, the duty of the guardian of the entire people does not differ from the guardianship of minors except in terms of quantity… Two qualifications must obtain in the Islamic ruler: he must be an expert of Islamic law and sciences and must be just. Without these two conditions no one may assume the office of the Imam of the Islamic State… It is not a system where the head of state enjoys absolute power, playing with the people's wealth and lives... It is a constitutional government, not in the ordinary known sense but in the sense that its functionaries adhere to a set of conditions and rules explained in the Qur'an and Sunnah, which make it imperative upon them to obey the system and apply the rules and laws of Islam. Hence the Islamic State is a realm of divine law. The difference between the Islamic government and the constitutional one, be it a monarchy or republic, lies in the fact that representatives of the people or the monarch legislate, while the authority of legislation (in the Islamic State) is confined to Allah alone… None, whosoever, is allowed to legislate and none has the right to govern with laws that do not enjoy Allah's sanction.”

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Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh) said "When two or more than two men of you go somewhere then appoint one of you as the LEADER"

Will it mean that the APPOINTED LEADER has taken the place of infallible Imam (a.s)?

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Who picks the members of Majlis e Khabargan?

People.

People select Ahly Khubra scholars from their respected communities and send them to Majlis as their trusted representatives.

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People.

People select Ahly Khubra scholars from their respected communities and send them to Majlis as their trusted representatives.

Salam brother,

Thank you for explaining the all of this.

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How a western type democracy run the country Islamically?

Logically this rule is far better than dirty politics of secular politicians who obviously will follow western political principles instead of Islamic. For further security Wali e Faqih is elected by renown scholars and not by corrupt secular politicians.

Are you aware that Iranian Presidents are elected through ballots? People have a right to decide who they want to govern them.

I never said the clerics couldn't compete politically. They have just as much right as anyone else to compete and hold offices.

What I am against is a political system that gives too much leverage to an individual/family, class, organization or party.

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