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Pak Imams Call For Jihad & Joining Turk-iran-china

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Is it a good time for Pakistan to leave the ranks of puppets (Saudi, Bahrain, Emirates etc..) and join countries like Iran and Turkey or after it's invaded and its nuclear arsenals looted? Act more independent and less harmful to its neighborhoods and Muslim countries? The sooner, the better~~~~~~~~~! Once invaded, the entire puppet circles will stand by the masters, not the fellow ex-puppet.

Pakistani Threat Escalates as Imams Call for Jihad

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The United States' strained relationship with Pakistan has grown more tense after 50 influential imams and religious leaders there threatened a jihad if the U.S. attacks the nuclear-armed country.

The threat came as Pakistan seemed to speak from both sides of the mouth. Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar insisted to the United Nations General Assembly on Tuesday that the government is part of the solution in Afghanistan.

"Pakistan is willing to do its best with the international partners and, most notably, the governments of Afghanistan and the United States, to acquit itself of this high responsibility (in Afghanistan)," she told the 193-nation assembly.

But her remarks came after Pakistan warned the United States to stop accusing it of playing a double game with Islamist militants and as it showered praise on China.

Now the U.S. must deal with the threat of a jihad that security analysts warn would create serious problems for the U.S. as it tries to end violence originating in Pakistan -- and the Pakistani government can't be trusted, even if there's no alternative.

The religious leaders threatening jihad are associated with the Sunni Ittehad Council (SIC), a coalition of local groups. According to Pakistani news reports, the council issued a press release declaring that it is illegitimate to call the U.S. a superpower because only Allah deserves the title.

The scholars urged the Pakistani government to end the country’s role in the war on terrorism and to try to establish a new international bloc made up of China, Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.

An analyst told FoxNews.com that the threat should be taken seriously.

“This must not be discounted,” the analyst said. “This is 50 very influential Imams and religious leaders who want a holy war against the U.S. …and they call for scholars, religious leaders to start urging the military rank-and-file to participate or prepare for jihad or holy war against the U.S. Use of Trojan horses or insiders like we have seen with the CIA will likely increase. “

Walid Phares, a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and an expert on Middle East history, told Fox News that the call by so many clerics is unusual, which means that a significant political force is behind this open call.

He said that the fatwa is linked to attacks on Pakistan, which could mean that figures in intelligence circles could be behind it, too. He noted that it comes as jihadi and Taliban attacks are escalating, which could show coordination between cells on the ground and clerics.

Last week, Adm. Mike Mullen, the outgoing chairman of the U.S. military's Joint Chiefs of Staff, linked the Haqqani network, the most violent faction among Taliban militants in Afghanistan, to Pakistan.

“The Haqqani network, for one, acts as a veritable arm of Pakistan’s internal services intelligence agency,” Mullen said.

Pakistan officials have pushed back at allegations their intelligence service was behind the June attack on Intercontinental Hotel and, three months later, the U.S. Embassy in Kabul. U.S. defense officials, however, told Fox News they found the cell phones of the Haqqani network attackers who kept the Embassy under siege for 20 hours, and those phones showed the attackers were connected to the ISI.

The U.S government has stopped short of calling these incidents acts of war but the State Department is considering whether to list the Haqqani network on its terror list.

“Obviously, if the Pakistani government chooses not to take action, we would carefully have to consider how to proceed,” State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said. “But it is in our strong interest, we believe, and it is in Pakistan’s strong interest, and we will be most effective, if we can tackle this problem together.”

Instead, Pakistani officials invited the Chinese public security minister to Islamabad, sending a message to Washington that if the U.S. pulls back and cuts off aid, estimated at $5 billion a year, others will fill the vacuum.

Khar said that current tensions between Pakistan and its partners stemmed in part from the challenges they are all facing in their fight against terrorism.

"Given the volatility of the situation, it is perhaps understandable that there is a high level of anxiety and emotions," she said.

"But we must not lose sight of the goals," Khar added. "We must work closely and as responsible partners in a cooperative manner and not rush to judgments or question each other's intentions."

FoxNews

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Very irresponsible fatwa!!! What alliance are they talking about? Since when did China or Turkey become US enemies? Turkey is one of the most reliable allies US has and China is its biggest trading partner.

Y should Pakistan go to war with any country over some unruly thugs? What has Taliban given to Pakistan?

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^Fatwa might be irresponsible, but I don't see any problem for Pakistan to make new alliances! To make a new alliance, it does not have to be an enemy of the old alliance. It is just that Pakistan can stop depending on Western countries.. or limit its dependence and instead find alternatives. To find alternatives you are not required to declare a war. Pakistan is not going to war with any country. Some countries want to go to war with Pakistan.

These Imams do not belong to the Taliban movements, they are mostly anti-Taliban movements. Taliban is actually helping as a hypocrite/trap to facilitate Pakistan invasion. The same way Afghan Taliban did to Afghanistan.

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^Bro, alliance does not mean that you roundup a few people and build up a gang to attack others. It could be political, regional, economical-trades, military, intelligence-cooperation, investment...........and 100s of more! But, based on mutual respect and interests, unlike today, where a few Western countries paying Pakistan a few dollars and in return can ask anything to do the dirty works for them... even to the extend that they are taking the country closer to a civil war and a state of collapse.

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When US twists ISI's ear due to its Taliban activities, ISI taps into its religious account in pursuit of its demonic policies. Once again ISI uses and abuses religion. Sadly, the poor people of the region are going to pay for it.

I wouldnt trust any fatwa from these dollar scholars. Such opinions could only be genuine if and when it calls for destruction of the status quo in Pakistan- a real Iranian style Revolution.

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^A real revolution in Pakistan is something that we might never witness. But, out of needs if religion is used against those forces who always sided with Pakistan to abuse and misuse religion against the people of the region is one of the better options to witness if nothing else. It is much better to see religion is advertised against Israeli and Saudi agents in Karachi than to see them using religion in killing Shias (Iranian agents) or bombing civilian markets in Lahor and Islamabad in aiming to divide Pakistan.

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You know what i hope they do. So the U.S can do it right this time, bomb non stop for months and finally get ride of the Taliban. Total destruction = total loss in faith

Iran, Turkey, China wouldn't be stupid enough to join this war

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@Noha :Don't be too happy bro, i wouldn't trust the mullahs one bit. I don't want to slander someone and their might be a few within them who actually care about religion but the rest are just a lot of hot air. They scream anti-US slogans and when the time will come to defend the country, they would be the first ones running away.

Mullahs (non shia)are one of the biggest nuisance in Pakistan, if they were swept away from the country most of the problems might go away. They have trapped Pakistan in a disgusting oppressive culture. I feel nauseous when i see their faces!

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^A real revolution in Pakistan is something that we might never witness. But, out of needs if religion is used against those forces who always sided with Pakistan to abuse and misuse religion against the people of the region is one of the better options to witness if nothing else. It is much better to see religion is advertised against Israeli and Saudi agents in Karachi than to see them using religion in killing Shias (Iranian agents) or bombing civilian markets in Lahor and Islamabad in aiming to divide Pakistan.

I firmly believe that religion should be 'used' by religious men. In case of Pakistan its used by Mafia style organizations. It can not be good. They tried it once before and it gave us the Taliban. Compare that to Ayatollah Khomenei's WF.

The problem with the so called democratic state, the apparent government of the people, is that it can never be bad. How can it be bad if its, assumed or believed, made by the people... making people bad. Politicians can be corrupt, or dumb, or stupid, but the system is always right because afterall it is of the people. In such a system a Revolution would really be hard but not impossible. All it takes is simply the moral resistance of one moral man. A Gandhi or Khomenei or Mao is needed. But unfortunately ISI will always be there to make sure it doesnt happen.

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They're just calling for a change of masters. Like its a good idea to replace Christian America with non-Theist China. China may turn out to be even worse than the Americans. What we need to do is end dependency and reform the white elephant that is the Pakistan army. Otherworldly his nation will always be a pawn. The military runs Pakistan like an organization of mercenaries.

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Look at them with their panda eyes, its like they spend half the defense budget on booze.

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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Basically if you people see it is all the works of iblis. Now U.S is the worst thing happened to the earth. and the conditions aroused in pakistan are the faults of pakistanis itself if they were not upto mischief they wouldnot had been surrounded with so many problems as well now look at the condition of pakistanis very poor everyone knows and they still want somehow ''TARAQQI'' OF THE COUNTRY

i ask when five times a day you are given success why donot you go there

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Very irresponsible fatwa!!! What alliance are they talking about? Since when did China or Turkey become US enemies? Turkey is one of the most reliable allies US has and China is its biggest trading partner.

Y should Pakistan go to war with any country over some unruly thugs? What has Taliban given to Pakistan?

agreed. Not only that, the US isnt going to be attacking Pakistan anytime soon, thats not how you treat a country that youre trying to work with.

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I don't agree with Zaid Hamid's views entirely, but sometimes he makes some interesting and solid points...! A few recent clips from his trip to Iran related to current situations in the Muslim world.

Zaid Hamid - International Peace Conference Tehran 14th May 2011

Zaid Hamid on WAR ON TERROR on IRANIAN TV Channel..

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