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Simply Love This ^_^

I love This but had to stop listening to it cos when I was praying and said "assalamu alayk etc.." I would always nearly say "assalamu Alayk Ya Aba 3abdillah" :donno:

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(salam)

These ones are good:

(Ignore the stupid title on this one, it's a good laugh though) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kf1M9Am1cM

One of the best non-taqiyyah videos I've seen in a while, backed by authentic ahadith:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjcoOZAjR8s

Give a tribute to the best Iranian Salafi there is! LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_trzNlavmg

Sibsorkhi and Mokhtari (my role model :D jks)

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  • Veteran Member
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^ wow, i thought it was going to end with a shot of her knocking back her daily cocktail of meds.

Heres a clip that had me chuckling today, its from a David Attenborough docu and shows a v sneaky penguin stealing another nest:

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Why do you feel the need to mock people?

Why do you feel the need to judge people? i was mocking the style of the content, obviously i dont believe for a second that she believes what she is saying, to do that would be more offensive.

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Why do you feel the need to judge people? i was mocking the style of the content, obviously i dont believe for a second that she believes what she is saying, to do that would be more offensive.

Who made you the niyyah police?

Don't assume everyone in the world thinks like you.

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Who made you the niyyah police?

Don't assume everyone in the world thinks like you.

I dont apologise for crediting people with intelligence; to assume that the people who made that propaganda video are naive or simple enough to believe such ridiculousness, when they are living in the RW when the script stops, is insulting. What was your reason for posting it?

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I dont apologise for crediting people with intelligence; to assume that the people who made that propaganda video are naive or simple enough to believe such ridiculousness, when they are living in the RW when the script stops, is insulting. What was your reason for posting it?

You have made it clear that you don't know anything about the DPRK beyond your limited Western lens!

I will respond soon, with a very long post inshallah, which will destroy your nonsense thinking.

My reason for posting it: I like DPRK television. It has a certain purity to it.

(BTW only about a million and a half North Koreans own a television, so don't think that this stuff is aimed at the masses in North Korea. I am guessing that it's more for ethnic Koreans in Japan.)

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Why do you feel the need to judge people? i was mocking the style of the content, obviously i dont believe for a second that she believes what she is saying, to do that would be more offensive.

I dont apologise for crediting people with intelligence; to assume that the people who made that propaganda video are naive or simple enough to believe such ridiculousness, when they are living in the RW when the script stops, is insulting. What was your reason for posting it?

Salaam aleikum to everyone

I said that I would write a post in response to Ruqayah's false slanders.

That time has come.

First, using the two posts above, we should make bullet points on Ruqayah's view of the DPRK (North Korea):

1) People in DPRK could only express positive views of their country through force

2) For them to express positive views of their country is unintelligent; assuming point #1 to be correct is to respect their intelligence

3) The "real world" in the DPRK conflicts with the "scripted world" that exists only in fantasy

These views happen to coincide with the Western narrative on the DPRK.

With regards to the first point, a few issues should be noted:

- There were not many defectors from the DPRK prior to the 1994-1998 famine

- Those who did defect, tended to be state apparatchiks who fell out of favor

- The KCIA (South Korean intelligence service) gave defectors scripts to read from, so their testimony was often unreliable

Bradley Martin, who himself wrote the most comprehensive work which draws heavily from defector testimony, concedes the shortcomings of relying on it for information. Martin further qualifies: "Consider also that the defectors were among the tiny minority of citizens who had found the situation back home so intolerable they were moved to risk their lives to escape. … Those who stayed behind would have tended to be, if anything, even more devoted." Because we can assume that the information given by these defectors – if skewed – would be skewed not in North Korea’s favor, any common thread between all the defectors which reflects positively on North Korea can be trusted as accurate.

And what one takes away from defector testimony as a whole is that the defectors were all once faithful followers of Kim Il-sung, and that many of them even continue to revere Kim long after defecting. Choi Jin-sok, an unwilling deserter from the anti-Japanese guerrilla forces (from when Korea was fighting for its independence from Japan; He was captured in 1940 by the Japanese and forced to fight against Kim and the Korean forces), was sentenced to ten years of jail after Korea gained its independence. After he finished that sentence, he lived in exile; in the Soviet Union. In spite of his unfavorable treatment by the North Korean government, he said of Kim: "I respected him before 1940 and I am proud of him even now [in 1993]." Defector Kim Jong-min was unable to bring himself to denounce Kim Il-sung after arriving in South Korea, and added: "There is no one in North Korea who would say Kim Il-sung is bad." Another defector – who was also hesitant to give an answer as to whether he had abandoned his worship of Kim – confirms this view: "To be able to have this conflict with the United States means Kim Il-sung has something to rely on: the support of the people," reasoning: "Now they’re having two meals a day, they’re overworked, but still there’s no uprising." Kim Kil-song recalls his parents telling him, "You have to be faithful to Kim Il-sung," and teaching him to bow before Kim’s portrait in thanks for any clothes, snacks, or toys that his father brought home for him. Kim Tae-pom recalls that although he had criticisms of the government, he "never felt any dissatisfaction toward Kim Il-sung himself." Defectors even cried at the news of Kim Il-sung’s death.

Sources:

Bradley K. Martin, Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader: North Korea and the Kim Dynasty (New York: Thomas Dunne Books, 2004): pp. 708-710, 375, 44, 375, 381, 408, 418-419.

John Feffer, North Korea/South Korea: US Policy at a Time of Crisis (New York: Seven Stories Press, 2003): p. 59

That's all I have to say about the defector issue. There are many more layers to this issue which inshallah I will address again soon.

I don't care if nobody is reading this (which I know nobody is). People need to learn a lesson of not talking without thinking beforehand.

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