Mournful Eid - Quetta

[Mullah_Habib_uDeen]

Sharing this sad news to raise awareness of shia sectarian violence on Hazaras

As Muslim are celebrating Eid all over the world today , Quetta (Pakistan) Mazloom Hazara Shias who have been victim of sectarian target killing over the past years in Pakistan and Afghanistan for decades are again mourning on Eid this year. :'(

Previous year in 2010 Hazaras were targetted on Jumah tul Widah - during the Al Quds demonstration , the whole city were mourning , almost each family had lost a loved one ...and this year again people were surprised with a massive bomb blast and brought to mourning on this day .

The bomb blast was very massive and felt on a distance , destroying many houses

Unlike as previous years the city has turned dead and there is no no sign of celebrations

Please remember the families of the martyrs may The qateels burn in hell !

Can't express my sadness , our neighbour and my cousin were martyrd :( ... Thank God the security didn't allow the suicide terrorist go further otherwise the number of victims would have been disastrous

http://english.aljaz...1666290129.html

Ten people have been killed and at least a dozen others wounded in a car bomb attack in the city of Quetta in southwest Pakistan, police have said.

The explosion occurred outside a mosque on Wednesday as hundreds of people were leaving after morning prayers, Abdul Jamil, a police officer told the AP news agency.

Jamil said the attack damaged 10 vehicles and several nearby buildings.

Worshippers were coming out of their congressional prayers marking Eid al-Fitr, the Islamic holiday that comes at the end of the fasting month of Ramadan, Al Jazeera's Kamal Hyder, reporting from Islamabad, said.

According to the Quetta police chief, a car packed with explosives had entered a parking lot, attempting to head for the mosque, Hyder said.

The police intervened to stop the vehicle from nearing the mosque, at which point the suicide bomber denotated the device, he added.

No group immediately claimed responsibility.

Baluchistan, the province of which Quetta is the capital, is home to both the Taliban and nationalists who have waged a decades-long fight against the government.

http://www.arynews.t...l.asp?nid=48603

A suicide car bomb blast killed at least 11 people on Wednesday and wounded 22 others celebrating Eidul Fitr in the southwestern city of Quetta, police said.

The bomb exploded in a car park next to a mosque where prayers marking the festival were taking place, senior police official Mohammad Hashim told AFP.

Quetta police chief Ahsan Mehboob said a bomb disposal team had concluded that it was a suicide car bomb, as he raised the official toll from 10.

“The death toll is 11 now as one of the wounded men died at the hospital,” Mehboob said.

“Remains of a badly mutilated body were found in the car. It appears that he was not wearing the explosives on his body but he had planted those in the car and detonated when he could not go beyond the parking lot,” Mehboob told AFP.

“Our security was alert, so he could not go beyond the parking, otherwise he might have caused a lot more casualties,” he said, adding that all the dead had been identified by relatives except the suicide bomber.

Quetta police official Hamid Shakil said two women and a seven-year-old boy were among the dead.

Several cars parked nearby caught fire from the blast and one house suffered blast damage, witnesses said.

Edited August 31, 2011 by maniaac

[sayedzeeshan]

Inna lilahe wa inna ilayhe rajeoon.

Very sad incident indeed. May Allah give patience to your family and peace to the shuhada. Ameen

[Mullah_Habib_uDeen]

[Marbles]

And the zulm continues without let or hindrance as the rulers bicker about who is going to get the fattest kick back. *sigh*

Inna lillahe wa inna alaihe rajeoon.

My condolences to the OP for losing a cousin and a neighbour. They are martyrs and in a better place than they were till today's morning. Inshallah.

May Allah give sabr to the family of the martyrs. Amen.

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

The dogs of Riyadh must be punished and their Terrorist ideologies annihilated.

[Hussien]

Hazaras demonstrating or rallying for Palestine is akin a homeless rallying for the millionaire CEOs that are about to get kicked out of their million dollar mansions. Its absurd. Palestinians are living in far better conditions than most Hazaras. The day Palestinians rally for Hazaras is the day Hazaras should rally for them.

My thoughts and prayers goes to the families of the fallen. May they rest in peace.

A piece of advice for the Hazaras in Quetta- stay away from politics of religion. Your Shias dont care about you. Your neighbors dont care about you. Your ummah dont care about you. Noone cares about you. Become the first to care about you. Rely on your two arms and faith and Allah will inshallah open many ways for you. With a population of few hundred thousand among 35 million Pashtuns you have no other choice but to rely on yourself. Stop wasting your time on shia politics.

Follow the Turkmany Hazara model- they are, economically speaking, one of the most well off clans in the entire Afghanistan. Numbering only around 25-30 thousands they managed to beat off the entire Wahabi terrorists in Kabul and their homebase was the only place in the entire Hazara areas of Afg that could not be taken by the Taliban. They are fierce. The secret to their success is their distance from religious politics and reliance on their own selves.

[The Green Knight]

The secret to their success is their distance from religious politics and reliance on their own selves.

The secret to their success is corpse totems and the famous "dead body dance" (spill some salt over the exposed spinal cord of a dead body with the head severed). That kind of attrition keeps away those coward Talib dogs. When they see the carcasses of their previous assailant Talib dogs rotting en-mass under the sun and being eaten by crows. Sadly, its not possible here in Pakiland (yet!).

But yes, Quetta is a base of international infiltration / terror operations against Iran with the Talib dogs as foreign mercenaries all stuffed in there. Its common knowledge. No army operation in Baluchistan since years and our puppet authority figures' submission to satanic forces its mercenary wahabi dogs is imminent as daylight. Shias should not make peaceful protests or rallies in its streets at least. Thats suicide.

Edited September 1, 2011 by Abu Dujana

[doobybrother]

Inna lilahe wa inna ilayhe rajeoon.

Blanket coverage from the Pakistani media. Geo News did not even bother to mention that the attack was sectarian in nature.

Once again our supposed leaders, Mr Sajid Naqvi and company keep mum.

[Mullah_Habib_uDeen]

I will reply to the above posted comments later .

These pictures speak for itself...

These peoples are not being targeted because they were taking part of demonstrations or because they were politically involved- innocent muslims celebrating EID!

I feel ashamed for the attitude of fellow shias for being so passive or unaware at all !

What was their fault ?

dirty blood of the suicide attackers

Edited September 1, 2011 by maniaac

[Aly ReZa]

Allaho akbar

Inna lillahe wa inaa elaihe rajeoon.

What the hell cops are doing over there are they gay or have weared bangles in their hand bloody.

Why our community only are suffering from this.

What are the ministers and politicions doing

How this has been started

Can anybody describe me the whole story shortly.

May Allah give patience to the members of the victims

And curse those bloody who did this.

Wassalam

[satyaban]

Hazaras demonstrating or rallying for Palestine is akin a homeless rallying for the millionaire CEOs that are about to get kicked out of their million dollar mansions. Its absurd. Palestinians are living in far better conditions than most Hazaras. The day Palestinians rally for Hazaras is the day Hazaras should rally for them.

My thoughts and prayers goes to the families of the fallen. May they rest in peace.

A piece of advice for the Hazaras in Quetta- stay away from politics of religion. Your Shias dont care about you. Your neighbors dont care about you. Your ummah dont care about you. Noone cares about you. Become the first to care about you. Rely on your two arms and faith and Allah will inshallah open many ways for you. With a population of few hundred thousand among 35 million Pashtuns you have no other choice but to rely on yourself. Stop wasting your time on shia politics.

Follow the Turkmany Hazara model- they are, economically speaking, one of the most well off clans in the entire Afghanistan. Numbering only around 25-30 thousands they managed to beat off the entire Wahabi terrorists in Kabul and their homebase was the only place in the entire Hazara areas of Afg that could not be taken by the Taliban. They are fierce. The secret to their success is their distance from religious politics and reliance on their own selves.

While considering my limited knowledge of the area I think there is much merit in what you say, of course I believe religion should stay out of politics accross that board. However I am not sure the attacks and general violence directed against Shias are driven by politics. Furthermore I don't think Kabul centered terrorists were needed to start this or inspire the violence.

[JimJam]

All you Quetta Hazara need to come to Karachi. Quetta is falling apart

[Hussien]

The secret to their success is corpse totems and the famous "dead body dance" (spill some salt over the exposed spinal cord of a dead body with the head severed). That kind of attrition keeps away those coward Talib dogs. When they see the carcasses of their previous assailant Talib dogs rotting en-mass under the sun and being eaten by crows. Sadly, its not possible here in Pakiland (yet!).

But yes, Quetta is a base of international infiltration / terror operations against Iran with the Talib dogs as foreign mercenaries all stuffed in there. Its common knowledge. No army operation in Baluchistan since years and our puppet authority figures' submission to satanic forces its mercenary wahabi dogs is imminent as daylight. Shias should not make peaceful protests or rallies in its streets at least. Thats suicide.

Bro the dance of the death is, to the best of my knowledge, enemy propaganda and excuse to portray the resistance in West Kabul under inhumane ligh and further justify their shameful defeat. However, cruelties of immense proportion did take place in both sides as one tried to one up the other. But whatever was committed by Hazaras had to happen as they were on the defensive side of the conflict. All wars were imposed on them as they were surrounded on all four sides by Wahabi terrorists and their allies.

The point I was trying to make was that when it comes to conflicts in Pakistan and Afghanistan, slogans are always religious and wars always racial. Hazaras being the only Asiatic race in both countries should always expect to find themselvs alone in their trenches. Expecting assistance based on religion or political ideology is as good as setting themselves up for far bitter disappointments.

[-SeeKeR-]

Inna Liila hai Wa innah ilayhe rajioon... :cry: .

The most worrisome thing for me is that how the enemy managed to penetrate a strong and safe shia strong hold like alamdar road. The shia really need to think about it.

A piece of advice for the Hazaras in Quetta- stay away from politics of religion. Your Shias dont care about you. Your neighbors dont care about you. Your ummah dont care about you. Noone cares about you. Become the first to care about you. Rely on your two arms and faith and Allah will inshallah open many ways for you. With a population of few hundred thousand among 35 million Pashtuns you have no other choice but to rely on yourself. Stop wasting your time on shia politics.

Whats the problem with haters like you?! How do you know no one cares? i am a non hazara shia and i care what happens to them and so do the others who have come a million times out on streets just to protest for Shia in Quetta. Why are you coming here trying to spread your hatred?! I don't understand why people here have such a destructive way of criticism. Protests are planned after Juma Prayers across the country. So kindly stop posting your baseless comments while sitting gazillion miles away in some western country.

See the poster below and tell me who cares and who doesn't?!

Protests are planned after Juma Prayers across the country. So kindly stop posting your baseless comments while sitting gazillion miles away in some western country.

Don't try to pitch people against each other. Hazara and non Hazara shia's are being killed alike. Right now shia in Pakistan need to stick together, not get divided along ethnic lines.

Edited September 2, 2011 by -SeeKeR-

[Marbles]

^

Sis, do you think he can read an Urdu ad? lol

These Western kids living safely and securely in the belly of the Great Satan are only good at ranting. The fact is that they have accepted to become part of the same society and system which wages wars from their taxes and appropriates the livelihood of poor across the world. They "love it", "absolutely love living there". And then they have the nerve to lambast Pakistan for supposedly being an American tool. Even Wahhabis in the Third World are more dignified. At least they stick to being who they are.

Edited September 2, 2011 by Marbles

[Mullah_Habib_uDeen]

^ What a biased thing to say i am at work so will keep my reply very short no offense but : may Allah guide your fingers away from your keyboard and change your biased way of thinking about some people so you can educate yourself instead of embarrasing yourself :P

[Marbles]

^ What a biased thing to say i am at work so will keep my reply very short no offense but : may Allah guide your fingers away from your keyboard and change your biased way of thinking about some people so you can educate yourself instead of embarrasing yourself :P

Nah man don't take it on heart. It wasn't directed at you and your ilk.

You aren't the one who hates democracy and at the same time reaps its benefits. You aren't the one who wishes destruction upon Pakistan so the Hindus next door and Iranians on the other side can become neighbours. You aren't the one to set plans for the Hazara of Pakistan about what they should or shouldn't do sitting in the United States.

Relax :D

Edited September 2, 2011 by Marbles

[Marbles]

I am your Royalty. I am a Turkman and the decendants of Mughuls. I am sure you are familiar with the person of Babur.My house is less than 3 kilometers from his resting place. I hail from the same clan. And I am sure that you know they had a big part in creating and enriching the Urdu language. So yes I speak and read the language. I also speak and can read Hindi. I further can read and write Sanskrit. And I am also sure that untill they had a say in the affairs of the region you lot were the ruling class and after them you have became little European subordiante terrorists. So have some respect.

Your little defence of that hell whole thats Pakistan is quite Ironic in this thread.

Irrelevant diatribe, yet again. Stick to being who you are: A runaway Afghan in some American city who pays taxes to the military industrial complex, living under an illusion of Royalty, which your very ancestors lost to the British like little sissies. Enough said.

So yes I speak and read the language.

No, you cannot.

Oh, perhaps you ran to Pakistan first, like millions of your ilk, lived here and learned the language before running away to the very US which turned your already karppy country into the biggest kraphole of the world?

Edited September 2, 2011 by Marbles

[Hussien]

Irrelevant diatribe, yet again. Stick to being who you are: A runaway Afghan in some American city who pays taxes to the military industrial complex, living under an illusion of Royalty, which your very ancestors lost to the British like little sissies. Enough said.

Reality is reality. With Mughuls you were lofty. Without them your are Terrorists.

No, you cannot.

Oh, perhaps you ran to Pakistan first, like millions of your ilk, lived here and learned the language before running away to the very US which turned your already karppy country into the biggest kraphole of the world?

I wont step in Pakistan EVER. I lived in India.

[Marbles]

Reality is reality. With Mughuls you were lofty. Without them your are Terrorists.

Yes, and you were the same sissies to have lost the country to the British. Too painful to accept that?

The problem with rhetoric (like my line above and all your posts) is that it only sounds good. It is devoid of substance otherwise. You should be the last person to talk about reality, dude. Have a reality check on you before you speak of reality.

I wont step in Pakistan EVER. I lived in India.

Ah excellent. And you are now loyally paying off all the crumbs you were fed. Nice one.

Did you try for the job of pundit with your Sanskrit skills? It pays well. Lots of gifts and its tax-free. :rolleyes:

Edited September 2, 2011 by Marbles

[Aly ReZa]

Well can anybody explain me the difference between hazara and non hazara shia.

Actually I have no idea abut that N juz want to know

Wassalam

[al-syedia]

@ aly reza all of the hazaras living in quetta are shias

the thing about them is that from their distinct looks they can be identified from a distance and are very easily picked up for sectariqn killings

[Hussien]

Well can anybody explain me the difference between hazara and non hazara shia.

Actually I have no idea abut that N juz want to know

Wassalam

Hazaras alongwith Sayyids and Qizilbash make up the shia community in Afghanistan. Although Hazaras account for the majority. In Pakistan Hazaras make a minority in Shia community. There are however a small Ismaeli and a very smaller sunni community among the Hazaras as well.

[Aly ReZa]

Salam actually I m sorry but I dunno what hazara means

I mean I live in india & never been to any holy country or city

So don't knw anything abut that can u plz describe me exactly what does hazara and non hazara means?

And how all did started in quetta

Thanx

Wassalam

[Hussien]

from their distinct looks they can be identified from a distance and are very easily picked up for sectariqn killings

exactly. when sectarian conflicts begin Hazaras become the sitting ducks while Sayyids and other shias are not recognized and pass as one of their own in the eyes of the salafis/sunnis

[Aly ReZa]

Hazaras alongwith Sayyids and Qizilbash make up the shia community in Afghanistan. Although Hazaras account for the majority. In Pakistan Hazaras make a minority in Shia community. There are however a small Ismaeli and a very smaller sunni community among the Hazaras as well.

Salam bro will u tell me what hazara mean

[Hussien]

Salam actually I m sorry but I dunno what hazara means

I mean I live in india & never been to any holy country or city

So don't knw anything abut that can u plz describe me exactly what does hazara and non hazara means?

And how all did started in quetta

Thanx

Wassalam

Hazaras are a mosiac of Turko-Mongolian tribes that settle mainly in Afghanistan and there is a small community in Pakistan. They differ from their Turkic cousins in their language which is a dialect of Farsi/Persian. They have been in Afghanistan as far back as the Kushans and as recent as 150 years ago.

Salam bro will u tell me what hazara mean

walikum a'sallam brother and eid mubarak.

Hazara does not mean anything in particular although Hazar means 1000 in Farsi. The name appeared in history in 17 and 1800s to the best of my knowledge.

Edited September 2, 2011 by Hussien

[Aly ReZa]

Hazaras are a mosiac of Turko-Mongolian tribes that settle mainly in Afghanistan and there is a small community in Pakistan. They differ from their Turkic cousins in their language which is a dialect of Farsi/Persian. They have been in Afghanistan as far back as the Kushans and as recent as 150 years ago.

walikum a'sallam brother and eid mubarak.

Hazara does not mean anything in particular although Hazar means 1000 in Farsi. The name appeared in history in 17 and 1800s to the best of my knowledge.

Salam

Eid mubarak 2 u also

Bro so do we have sum pepl shia in that hazara group

And non hazara mean pepl like us right??

[Hussien]

Salam

Eid mubarak 2 u also

Bro so do we have sum pepl shia in that hazara group

And non hazara mean pepl like us right??

Yes there is a very small sunni community maybe 2-4% approx. Hazaras are like punjabis, tamils, or balouch a community of people that have similiar language, looks, history, or religion. Other communities in Afghanistan are Pathans/Pahstuns, Tajiks, and Uzbeks. non Punjabis mean the rest of India and non Hazaras mean the rest of Afg which are Pathans, Tajiks and Uzbeks.

[Mullah_Habib_uDeen]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazara_people

Aly reza , you can check this link to read a little more about them...

[Aly ReZa]

Yes there is a very small sunni community maybe 2-4% approx. Hazaras are like punjabis, tamils, or balouch a community of people that have similiar language, looks, history, or religion. Other communities in Afghanistan are Pathans/Pahstuns, Tajiks, and Uzbeks. non Punjabis mean the rest of India and non Hazaras mean the rest of Afg which are Pathans, Tajiks and Uzbeks.

Ok but how all dis started in quetta and why all are doing this and what is the outcome??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazara_people

Aly reza , you can check this link to read a little more about them...

Salam Thanx 4 the useful link

[al-syedia]

@ aly reza brother

hazara is a community and a race

there is a vast majority oh them living in afghanistan as well they are the descendants of GHENGHIZ khan

in pakistan almost all of the hazara community is SHIA

[Mullah_Habib_uDeen]

^ They are not , It is a misconception that they are the descendants of Chengiz Khan - Hazaras used to serve in the army of Ghengiz Khan but are not from his lineage !

They were the first who converted to Islam before the Pushtuns , tajiks and Uzbeks

Edited September 3, 2011 by maniaac

[-SeeKeR-]

For haters who want to create divisions between shia in Pakistan and project their negativity on everyone. See the pictures below and do a tasbeeh of astaghfar for saying slanderous stuff about people you don't know 1% about!

http://www.islamtime...49niu1lzk4.html

http://www.htnews.tv...ls.aspx?ID=6239

exactly. when sectarian conflicts begin Hazaras become the sitting ducks while Sayyids and other shias are not recognized and pass as one of their own in the eyes of the salafis/sunnis

Seriously whats up with you? You think the enemy is so dumb that they kill people based on looks?! They have lists of all the shia households. Its' not just hazaras, you have any idea how many families have moved out of Pakistan just cuz they were *sitting Ducks*...AND do you have any idea how many people are still under threat and killed everyday? Why are you trying to create fitnah by saying stuff like no one cares about hazaras and its only hazaras that are being killed?!

Its a shia thing end of story not an ethnic tale!

Try reading this... :dry: : http://www.shaheedfoundation.org/imagegallery.asp?whichpage=1&pagesize=10&sqlQuery=SELECT+%2A+FROM+ShaheedPic+INNER+JOIN+SHAHEED+ON+ShaheedPic%2EShaheedId+%3D+SHAHEED%2EId+order+by+DateOfShahdat+desc

Edited September 4, 2011 by -SeeKeR-

[Hussien]

For haters who want to create divisions between shia in Pakistan and project their negativity on everyone. See the pictures below and do a tasbeeh of astaghfar for saying slanderous stuff about people you don't know 1% about!

Ignorance is your PROBLEM. I wrote a response to your post earlier but further deleted it for the sake of unneccessary negativity. You call me a hater because I criticize Pakistan as an entity thats harmful to Muslims in the same thread thats about sectarian killings in that British entity thats Pakistan. Could you be any MORE CONTRADICTORY?

The pictures bellow mean nothing when the other side is murdering and killing. When push comes to shove its weapons that matters and not slogan. Regardless, leave Hazaras out of this newfound Shia cause. Because it has been the shias that have harmed Hazaras the most.

When I say you are ignorant I dont mean it to be offensive but to state the obvious. You are not familiar with Hazara history and you do not know how the Hazaras got to Pakistan- In 1890 when the British decided to form Afghanistan as a state to block the the Russians advance in Central Asia as to save their Raj, the Pahtans were given immense amount of weapons to perform the task for them. The Pathans, using the opportunity, launched a nation wide Jihad against Shias that lasted for four years without any success. Although the Jihad was supposedly against Shias but Hazaras were the only one fighting. Eventually it was our own 'shias' that came in with Qurans as envoys of the Pahtans to make peace. They infact were the spies of the Pathan King. Once the peace was established and guards were down they attacked and massacared more 60% of Hazaras- killed their men and women, sold their daughters and sons to sex and labor slavery. They killed all their scholars and top figures and usurped Kandahar, Helmand, Uruzgan, Ghazni, Farah and other parts of southern Afghanistan that today is settled by Pashtuns but were originally Hazara lands. Hazaras were driven out to Quetta, Mehshad, Central Asia, Denmark, Austrlia, Syria, Iraq etc. This all would not have been possible without the so called shia.

Fast forward 100 years and the so called Shias sold Hazaras again in Kabul. It took 100 years for Hazaras to recover. In 1990s the salafis, the non Hazara shias, the tajiks/persians, and IRI once again joined in the murder and massacare of the Hazaras. Youtube or Google Afshar massacare or Yakawlang massacre. And once again this so called concerned shias were the first one to sell Hazaras in order to save their lives. And come tomorrow when there is another war all these little rallying wusses are going to be the first ones to sell Hazaras. Based on Hazara history and experience, when it comes to wars in the region- Slogans are always religious but wars always Racial.

So go on ahead and form your little shia fronts and raise your little hezbollah flags but for gods sake leave Hazaras out of it.

Learn before you speak!

You think the enemy is so dumb that they kill people based on looks?!

Yes the enemy is very dumb otherwise they would not have resorted to unnecessary murder.

^ They are not , It is a misconception that they are the descendants of Chengiz Khan - Hazaras used to serve in the army of Ghengiz Khan but are not from his lineage !

They were the first who converted to Islam before the Pushtuns , tajiks and Uzbeks

Hazaras were the ONLY ones that put a viable resistance against Chingiz Khan in Bamiyan. The great Khan was also wounded in that battle. That said there are sects within Hazaras today that are of Mongolian decent. Behsoodi Hazaras are of Mongolian origin for example. Behsood was/is i believe still a clan within both Mongolia and Afghanistan. Turkmany or Jaghori Hazaras or Bamiyani ones are not of Mongolian decent.