Iraqi Minister: Jp Morgan Is Choking Our Economy

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Ousted Oil minister speaks about Trade bank of Iraq and how its implementing US administration sanctions on Iran

[Haji 2003]

He's the Electricity Minister.

But interesting video, thanks.

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Yes sry I meant elec. not oil

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

Said it once, said it a million times, US/NATO only brings 'deMOCKracy' if you sign the multinational organization contracts. Libya is the latest classic example.

They met with Jalil. He told them they'll get what ever contracts they want.

They then brought demockracy, they ousted their dictator, they armed the rebels, they shed them in great freedom fighting light in the media, they established a demockratic government, they even let the media into the country.

The only question that CAN'T be asked is, what were the arrangements with the multinationals before the ousting of Ghaddafi.

It's all about the contracts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7Fzm1hEiDQ

The government are merely representatives of the multinational businesses.

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Yes but I do think american policy would be ineffective if the people choose autonomy. For example, Iraqis and libyans are well capable of cutting relations with the west and go the independent route.

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

^ agreed, that's why it's incumbent upon us to tell them they're not needed by cleaning up our own house. Our biggest problem are traitors.

[Haji 2003]

Yes but I do think american policy would be ineffective if the people choose autonomy. For example, Iraqis and libyans are well capable of cutting relations with the west and go the independent route.

Cutting relations would be the only solution, but it's not going to happen.

The sacked minister talked about saving US$1bn off a US$2bn contract. Say whoever replaced him won't do these money saving deals in the future. That's US$1bn that foreign companies will have to potentially give in kick-backs. Even a fraction of that is a huge amount of money.

We're not just talking about one guy with a Swiss bank account getting a brown envelope, we're talking about entire ministries etc. being paid off in some shape or form. For some it will be paid attendance at "conferences" in the West, for others it will be training visits and so on.

This is almost impossible to stamp out, Western countries have an almost impossible job doing it, so I am afraid there is almost no hope for a colonies such as Iraq and Libya.

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Sometimes I dont feel too bad about it. All these parties that took control , daa3wa,maajlis etc got voted in largely because of their previous opposition to saddam's regime and were represenative of the shia majority. They ran on an Islamic agenda, and if they choose to align themselves with the west I guess we have to respect that.

Its alot like what we have here in the United States, I always hear how this country isnt a democracy but a 2 party system where the elite get voted in. Thats not exactly true though. If enough people fulfilled their responsibility (educating themselves and supporting the right candidates/parties), we wouldnt have the politicians we do today. But thats not happening because MTV and American Idol is more important to us than politics.

So yes, the people do have more power than they think not only in the US but Iraq, Libya and elsewhere.

[alimohamad40]

the world super powers have all the materialistic resources in their hand and hence they can bribe all the hungry

the only way to break loose of this is by stop being slaves to our desires

once we oust the biggest dictator of all namely our own desires we can be free and once we are free they can not influence us .

for example why are Iraqi government such slaves to the USA now? they are sick of poverty and war and they are chasing after prosperity which they think the US will give them

some advice to break loose from our main dictator

boycot of bad companies as much as possible

we dont need thier nestle or coca cola or mac donald

stop the wasteful lifestyle and lead a conservative life

this way we will stop being consumers and will start to be producers

implement systems which eliminate hunger and poverty of all types

Edited September 2, 2011 by alimohamad40

[Basra]

Colonialism today is truly sponsored by Western fatcat, mega corporations (like the usury doing evildoer bankster thieves at JP Morgan), this is truly Colonialism 2.0.

[Guest Zahratul_Islam]

The government are merely representatives of the multinational businesses.

The scope and extent of MNC influence is disheartening stuff.

Sometimes I dont feel too bad about it. All these parties that took control , daa3wa,maajlis etc got voted in largely because of their previous opposition to saddam's regime and were represenative of the shia majority. They ran on an Islamic agenda, and if they choose to align themselves with the west I guess we have to respect that.

Its alot like what we have here in the United States, I always hear how this country isnt a democracy but a 2 party system where the elite get voted in. Thats not exactly true though. If enough people fulfilled their responsibility (educating themselves and supporting the right candidates/parties), we wouldnt have the politicians we do today. But thats not happening because MTV and American Idol is more important to us than politics.

So yes, the people do have more power than they think not only in the US but Iraq, Libya and elsewhere.

It isn't that simple. We have poor in the United State who are not being properly represented, it isn't just a matter of them not caring about whether or not they get healthcare reforms or other social benefit packages because they are too fixated on American idol. They voted for these things despite the propaganda of the right wing and they were awarded with nothing more than another corporate sell out who promised one thing and did the exact opposite.

Then you have those who have become convinced that global capitalism and free market economies are the noble end goals of big business.. that this type of thing is necessary and ensures liberty in the long run. Those break-your-back workers who read too much Ayn Rand and decided that the only reason they are not as wealthy as a wall street banker is because they haven't quite earned it yet. Either way, people in this country are aware of its gross inequalities.. but they either choose to romanticize it or they try to change it and realize the system does work against their interests.

As for Iraq, I agree that we have to respect whatever decision that the Iraqi people make, provided they are the ones that are making them through free and fair elections. No one in the Middle East or the West has ever really care about our well being, so they can hold off on the well intentioned critiquing. That being said, I just can't rationalize how the Iraqi people suffered through wars, dictatorship, death, and hunger in order to become the mere pawns of multinationals.

It wouldn't require cutting relations entirely, a subtle move toward greater automony is just as effective as a middle finger to the powers that be, and the Iraqi government has shown that isn't entirely incapable of giving gentle hints about who is going to call the shots.

Edited September 8, 2011 by Zahratul_Islam