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[MERGED] Eid and Moon Sightings

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السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته - Peace be upon you as well as Allah's Mercy and Blessings...

و الصلاة و السلام على خير خلق الله و حبيب قلوبنا، الرسول محمد، و آله الطيبين الطاهرين - And may the Prayers and Peace be upon the Best of Allah's Creations, the beloved of our hearts, the Messenger Muhammad as well as his Generous and Pure Family...

و لعنة الله الدائمة على أعداءهم و ظالميهم و التابعين على ذلك من الأولين إلى الآخرين - And may the permanent curse of Allah be upon their enemies and their oppressors and those who follow the trend from the first ones to the last ones...

This is one of the days of the year i don't like 'cause some are celebrating Eid while some like me are still fasting, not knowing which one is right. Im from Toronto, and our takiyya Khana here announced Eid but said nothing about moonsighting, velayat TV channel says its on wednesday. Missing one day of ramadhan isn't good, fasting on Eid isn't any good either. What to do?

Follow your marjaa ruling about the way to "declare" or "not declare" eid on the evening of doubt...

When were you supposed to have "officially" started the month of Ramadhan according the rulings of your marjaa?

Count 29 days from there, then on the 29th day of the holy month, (30th day eve) in the evening, check up if you see the crescent according to your marjaa rulings or if there is any other correct way to determine eid (news from at least 2 TRUSTFUL MUSLIM SHIA TWELVER PRACTICING brother)...

If in any case you come to really doubt, travel with the niyya of visiting a place which is 30 kms out of the limits of your city (or the limits of your city suburbs), STARTING IN THE MORNING (which is BEFORE ZUHR TIME)! Then once you arrived, break your fast... And then come back home...

Please brothers and sisters, correct me if i'm wrong...

و عليكم السلام و رحمة الله و بركاته - And upon you be Peace as well as Allah's Mercy and Blessings...

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why does this site http://iecoc.org/

say its eid according to sayed khoei if the other site from sayed Khoei says its not?

this made my family confused :(

either way mubarak to all no matter when you celebrate <3

Allah Bless

Not just you lol, stuffed me up as well :blush: :angry: lol

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Message from Imam Khoei Islamic Centre regarding the moon sighting

In the name of Allah, The compassionate, The merciful

Some reports about sighting of the new crescent moon of the month of Shawal 1432 AH have been circulated claming that they match the Fatwa of Grand Ayatullah Khoei.

We hereby declare that there is no basis for the above circulation and that such reports have not been found to satisfy the criteria concerning the method of moon sighting according to Imam Khoei.

Therefore, those who remain on the Taqlid of Imam Khoei will celebrate Eid on Wednesday 31st August 2011

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From the website: http://www.alkhoei.o...8384944&nid=915

Edited by WhiteSkies

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Is it going to 2 eids again?

Or all are having eid tommorrow?

The Eid is on Wednesday (most probably). The people will be looking for the new moon in the evening of Tuesday. In the next couple of hours, they will probably go to sight the moon in najaf, Iraq. And you will probably hear something from the office of Sistani, InshaAllah.

I just want to add that, that the Eid could also be on Thursday for some of you because there is a possibility that the moon may not sighted in some of the European countries (I am basing my view on the moon sighting site).

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why does this site http://iecoc.org/

say its eid according to sayed khoei if the other site from sayed Khoei says its not?

this made my family confused :(

either way mubarak to all no matter when you celebrate <3

Allah Bless

Not just you lol, stuffed me up as well :blush: :angry: lol

So there is some confusion over this, and I know some people that inquired. First of all, it's not based on something from the late Sayed Khoei's office or representatives. It's only based on his fatwa as applied to North and South America. Moreover, this view isn't unanimous as some other shia groups in Orange County (such as IMAM, which unofficially represents Sayed Sistani and also Sayed Khoei on some matters) are saying that the sighting in Chile is either unreliable or others not sufficient based on Khoei's fatwas on the matter of moon sightings. I don't live in Orange County, so I am fasting today, but I know many shi'a who do live there and they seem to be split; some are fasting today and some aren't. As for following what IECOC issued, you should only do so if you have itminan that they are right based on your own marja (or if you have an educated reason to use different moon sighting criteria than those used by your marja, and your marja allows selectively following different marjas on certain issues with good reason). Were I to live in Orange County, I'm pretty sure I would be fasting today regardless (at least based on the research I've done).

I hope that helps clarify things at least a little bit.

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Even this site has published a note on Eid based on Chilean sighting. http://www.ksmnet.or...432ah-confirmed

Hilal Advisory Statement: 1st Shawwal 1432AH confirmed

emailButton.png printButton.png 200x143-images-stories-crescentsighting-new-moon.jpgHilal Advisory confirms Tuesday 30th August 2011 is 1st of Shawwal 1432 for followers of Marhoom Ayatullah Al Khoi (ra).

The above is based on credible reports of sighting from Santiago in Chile.

We would like to Wish Eid Mubarak to all followers of Marhoom Ayatullah Al Khoei (ra).

Secretariat

but this site has a more correct info http://isia-ottawa.com/

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Monday 29th August:

According to the astronomical data, on Monday, 29th of August 2011, sighting of the crescent is not possible at all in North America, so tomorrow is out of question based on the criterion of regional sighting as per the fatwa of Ayatullahs Sistani, Khamena’i and Nasir Makarim Shirazi.

There is a possibility of sighting the crescent in south-west of South America (Argentine and Chile) on Monday 29th August, and if there is a confirmed sighting from that area, then for the muqallidin of the late Ayatullah Khu’i, tomorrow 30th of August, would be the day of eidul fitr.

Tuesday 30th August:

On Tuesday, 30th of August, the possibility of sighting the crescent is very good for the entire North America. Based on confirmed sighting, on Tuesday, anywhere is North America, Wednesday 31st of August, will be the day of Eid-ul-Fitr for all.

Edited by Zareen

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There is a total eclipse tonight in UK according to the charts ive looked at.

I thought eclipse is at the mid of the lunar month. How come you have an eclipse at the end of the month?

:donno:

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Even this site has published a note on Eid based on Chilean sighting. http://www.ksmnet.or...432ah-confirmed

Looks like al-khoe'i foundation in the US https://www.al-khoei.org/Home.aspx and London http://www.alkhoei.o...8384944&nid=915 don't personally know any Shia in Chile, so although moonsighting.com proved that it will be seen in South America, lack of known Shia feet on the ground there meant that they declared it Wednesday unlike the other muqalladin of Sayyid Khoe'i who do know people there, which is why they declared it Tuesday.

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(salam)

For Sayyid Sistani (HA) when is eid?? I am living in Canada

Astronomically, the natural day would seem to be Wednesday. But I'm sure someone will find a reason to obstinately insist on Thursday, due to today being the 29th and due to there so often being clouds at this time of year.

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Hope this helps

Hilal Advisory Team Statement- 1st Shawwal 1432AH confirmed

150x109-images-stories-crescentsighting-new-moon.jpgThe Office of His Eminence Ayatullah Seyyid Ali Al Hussaini Al Sistani in Najaf, declares to Momineen. That it has been established to His Eminence – Daama Dhilluh _ T omorrow Wednesday is the 1st of Shawwal in Iraq, and all the arab nations and all Islamic nations such as iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, Also India, Thailand, Australia, New Zealand, USA, and Central America

However, in most of Europe, such as United Kingdom, France, Germany Holland, Belgium, Scandinavian Countries and Canada, day after tomorrow Thursday will be the blessed Eid ul Fitr.

May Allah make this a blessed day for all the Muslims

Office of His Eminence in Najaf

Eve of Wednesday 1st Shawal 1432

http://www.coej.org/

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