What Happened To Ahmadinejad?

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

Just finished watching an interview with him on RussiaToday. He has COMPLETELY changed. You can tell from his body language he's grown impatient and very uncomfortable. At the end of the interview, he asked the presenter if he could add a few more sentences in, for which they concentrated on One-World Governance and Neo-Humanism.

Has he lost it? If it wasn't for the Guardianship of Wali il-Amr seriously, things would be really messed up. He's been acting and behaving very strange lately. Firing Mottaki and also Moslehi.

Can't the parliament call for a vote of no-confidence and try replace him with someone more trustworthy? I still believe Khatami is one of the best to have ever held that position, and find him very trustworthy (even though some say he's too 'liberal' but i disagree). Larijani is another great candidate.

Sorry to say, but all confidence in Ahmadinejad is lost. I'm almost convinced his interests aren't in the interests of the Revolution. How did he slip through?

[Schrodinger]

He finally dropped his mask. Imagine ... if you can fake it that long, why turn at the end at all? How DEEP do these people go?

Edited August 13, 2011 by Schrodinger

[ShiaBen]

Man you guys are seriously pathetic.

There's nothing wrong with him.

Just because he had conflict with a few belligerent hard-nosed ultra conservative mullahs, all of a sudden you guys are branding him as a "traitor".

Larijani, Ghalibaf, Khatami, will never be better than him. Maybe in international relations they may try and attempt to "appear better", but when it comes down to what each man does for the country, he's the best president Iran has ever had. Once he's out, we're about to see a bunch of incompetent and inexperienced presidents take his spot (sigh).

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

iSilurian, mind asking what it was that you disliked?

[Abbas.]

Link to the interview please..... And a link with english subtitles thx !

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

^ www.rt.com

It was a live interview, it just finished 15 minutes ago, it doesn't look like they've uploaded it yet. There was a live translator.

[Rothchild]

Just finished watching an interview with him on RussiaToday. He has COMPLETELY changed. You can tell from his body language he's grown impatient and very uncomfortable. At the end of the interview, he asked the presenter if he could add a few more sentences in, for which they concentrated on One-World Governance and Neo-Humanism.

Has he lost it? If it wasn't for the Guardianship of Wali il-Amr seriously, things would be really messed up. He's been acting and behaving very strange lately. Firing Mottaki and also Moslehi.

Can't the parliament call for a vote of no-confidence and try replace him with someone more trustworthy? I still believe Khatami is one of the best to have ever held that position, and find him very trustworthy (even though some say he's too 'liberal' but i disagree). Larijani is another great candidate.

Sorry to say, but all confidence in Ahmadinejad is lost. I'm almost convinced his interests aren't in the interests of the Revolution. How did he slip through?

Just look at that picture of him. He is making signs of the Devil (fingers shaped like horns). A lot of people think he has been possessed.

http://nationalinterest.org/article/ahmadinejad-vs-the-ayatollah-5441

[Schrodinger]

Larijani, Ghalibaf, Khatami, will never be better than him. Maybe in international relations they may try and attempt to "appear better", but when it comes down to what each man does for the country, he's the best president Iran has ever had. Once he's out, we're about to see a bunch of incompetent and inexperienced presidents take his spot (sigh).

Might be true, but you don't quite understand: he has a hidden agenda. He could not have pulled it off without granting Iran some benefit with his presidency.

Khamenei truly is a wise man.

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

He is making signs of the Devil (fingers shaped like horns).

Signs of the devil? erm, mind explaining please?

[Rothchild]

Just finished watching an interview with him on RussiaToday. He has COMPLETELY changed. You can tell from his body language he's grown impatient and very uncomfortable. At the end of the interview, he asked the presenter if he could add a few more sentences in, for which they concentrated on One-World Governance and Neo-Humanism.

Has he lost it? If it wasn't for the Guardianship of Wali il-Amr seriously, things would be really messed up. He's been acting and behaving very strange lately. Firing Mottaki and also Moslehi.

Can't the parliament call for a vote of no-confidence and try replace him with someone more trustworthy? I still believe Khatami is one of the best to have ever held that position, and find him very trustworthy (even though some say he's too 'liberal' but i disagree). Larijani is another great candidate.

Sorry to say, but all confidence in Ahmadinejad is lost. I'm almost convinced his interests aren't in the interests of the Revolution. How did he slip through?

He is probably under a lot off stress. I am sure he is worried that he will be charge for treason or "indemnity against God". Many people have been executed or hanged in Iran for this and Ahmadinejad is not immune from this.

Signs of the devil? erm, mind explaining please?

Look at his hands! He is making horns.

[Waiting for HIM]

Totally absurd conclusions. This is the old trick of imperialism, if you can not program the person or can not stop him, then make him look crazy. Even RasoolAllah (s) was accused of lunacy -majnoon and craziness (nauzobillah). And it's all documented in Quran.

Also remember quranic advice, whenevr a news comes from fasiq (most of western media today) than verify it yourself before making any conclusions out of it.

[Maula Dha Mallang]

Signs of the devil? erm, mind explaining please?

its some retarded christian conspiracy theory - if someone is making the "horns" sign with their hands it somehow means they are either summoning the devil or pledging their allehience to the devil. obviously this is because shaytaan looks like a goat standing on its back legs *rolls eyes*

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

^ LOL what the heck you're right, just google imaged it, they seem to be everywhere :blink: ?!!??

Looks weird, but pretty sure it's just coincidental though. Or they're just having fun lol

Interview's now been uploaded -> http://rt.com/news/rt-exclusive-mahmoud-ahmadinejad/

[Haji 2003]

The sign means different things in different cultures. See the BBC site for more details:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8687002.stm

Anyway.

1. AN may have been using it to ward off the evil eye.

2. Bush may have been doing it for the Texan Longhorns.

3. Clinton probally to say 'I am loving this gig'.

4. And his wife to show that she's a cuckold.

[ireallywannaknow]

If the thumb is out, it's sign language for "I love you." But I know that in America at least, it's(the hand thing w/o the thumb) what a lot of 'rock and roll'ers used to do and it had to do with the devil. *shrug*

[baradar_jackson]

Dear Brother Ya Aba Abdillah:

I didn't see the interview.

I know that there was a few cases of Ahmadi going against the leader's wishes, and the Western media went into a frenzy reporting that Ahmadi would be impeached within 3 days, but to the best of my knowledge the leader crushed the fitnah after he gave this speech:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWqSYLblypE

He dismissed the claims of a rift between president and leader as foreign propaganda lies.

Why would you want to see him be impeached? That would just validate all the fitnah-mongering propaganda.

As for Khatami, much of the cultural/ideological problems in Iran today are due to his government. Every cultural apparatus in Iran today has to be completely rebuilt and remolded because of the deviations that the Khatami government inserted into them.

In my opinion, the government that was most effective, most obedient to the leader, least corrupt, and most well-liked by the people, was the 3rd and 4th governments (Seyyed Ali Khamenei's two terms as president).

But of course, it would be impossible for him to be president today, because he is leader (tanx God).

Larijani seems like someone who would not rock the boat, which is good. The most important thing for an Iranian president is that he does his job, serves the people, obeys the leader, and doesn't become a face. But I think Iranian politics needs some young blood injected into it.

Edited August 14, 2011 by baradar_jackson

[skylight2]

Sorry to say, but all confidence in Ahmadinejad is lost. I'm almost convinced his interests aren't in the interests of the Revolution. How did he slip through?

Well that's kinda interesting, 'cause I been thinking the exact same thing about you Aba ... your posts used to be really good, and lately they've kinda gone seriously off the edge. Maybe you are projecting some your own issues on the President?

[south-lebanon]

I initially thought the reason for Moslehi resignation or sacking was due to the failure of preventing the Stuxnet computer worm which hammered Irans uranium enrichment facilities, so i thought ahmadinejad may have had a point, but later on i was disappointed with him because i learned he was at odds with the suprme leader and the members of the majlis when moslehi was reinstated.

however i agree with barader, Its not for us to jump to conclusions that he may be deviant or not, according to Khamenei their differences have been sorted out, the enemies of Iran like nothing more than to see trouble within the top leadership.

He is deffinetly acting differently now, maybe hes just keeping a low profile for a while till things settle down or hes just showing the signs of being put back into his place.

I must admit i miss the old Ahmadinejad, i was once a huge fan, remeber this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_3RUwAJ_MI

[JimJam]

Ahmadinejad is an ambitious and charismatic man I guess and he simply does not like being held back by a 'body of experts'. Hes seems to be like Bhutto

[freedom90]

if you see the photo carefully it is obvious that it is manipulated by photoshop. Dr. Ahmadinejad has never showed this sign. I thought this is a site for shias but it seems it's just a site for so-called leader's followers not shias.

[alimohamad40]

how can we reach conclusions by signs or weird things like that rather than analyzing his ideology?

they say one of the differences he has with the revolutionary guards is that he has a racist tendency and his close aid esfandyar rahim mashaei apparently proposed a "Persian islam" or something like that ....

If thats the case then definitely we have to stand against najad because the islamic revolution is not a racist or a Persian project but its an ideological and unity project

but comparing to musawi or khatami or karroubi he is way better and even less racist and has a strong personality and an ideologue.

the others suck up to the strong powers for worldly advantages and their slogan was shouting " no gaza no Lebanon my life is for iran" which projects their racism and divination from the Islamic project.

Edited August 14, 2011 by alimohamad40

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

I know that there was a few cases of Ahmadi going against the leader's wishes, and the Western media went into a frenzy reporting that Ahmadi would be impeached within 3 days, but to the best of my knowledge the leader crushed the fitnah after he gave this speech:

Fully agree with you bro. Imam Rahbar won't let any behind the scenes 'descent' becoming fodder for Iran's enemies, they'll sort it out properly. But just as you consider Khatami as having been a questionable president, same questions can be put forth to Ahmadinejad. But as long as the system is the way it is, it's protected :) , so not too worried.

[Ugly Jinn]

He was never a good savvy politician. I honestly don't think he has high IQ, just a nice humble background which people related too. I never liked him since Day 1.

I agree Khatami was probably the best Iran had in the modern era.

[repenter-gone4awhile]

^^ Wait what? Which Khatami?? The former president? You gotta be kidding me.

Khatami is in no way comparable to Ahmadinejad. Ahmadinejad has done some mistakes, and is tired and worn out, but in no way is he comparable to Khatami.

The changes and works he has done for Iran is far far far beyond what Khatami ever did.

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

^^ Wait what? Which Khatami?? The former president? You gotta be kidding me.

Khatami is in no way comparable to Ahmadinejad. Ahmadinejad has done some mistakes, and is tired and worn out, but in no way is he comparable to Khatami.

The changes and works he has done for Iran is far far far beyond what Khatami ever did.

Khatami kicked off Iran's nuclear project. It remained hidden under him till Ahmadenejad. He is also a true statesmen. He's also married to Mousa Sadr's :wub: niece.

[Gypsy]

(salam)

YaAba,

What actually did you see from the interview that made you lose confidence?

I read the transcript of the interview, there isn't anything there that can be consider controversial.

[Ugly Jinn]

Khatami kicked off Iran's nuclear project. It remained hidden under him till Ahmadenejad. He is also a true statesmen. He's also married to Mousa Sadr's :wub: niece.

Hidden? UN/US knew about it before Ahmedinijad took office. Khatami had to tackle this issue with UN/IAEA.

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

Hidden? UN/US knew about it before Ahmedinijad took office. Khatami had to tackle this issue with UN/IAEA.

You're correct. What i meant was they only found out about it, or at least, it came out in the open, in 2002, half way through Khatami's term. Which means the 'secrecy' of the initial stages of its development were done under his auspices.

[baradar_jackson]

Fully agree with you bro. Imam Rahbar won't let any behind the scenes 'descent' becoming fodder for Iran's enemies, they'll sort it out properly. But just as you consider Khatami as having been a questionable president, same questions can be put forth to Ahmadinejad. But as long as the system is the way it is, it's protected :) , so not too worried.

Ahmadi's problem is not ideological; it's just some of his mistakes/disobediences.

Khatami's problem is at the core, and that is this: he does not believe in Islamic government, in WF, or in Seyyed Ali Khamenei as a person and leader.

And one thing has been clear throughout history: when a president doesn't have any faith in the system behind the government which he leads, the system is doomed to failure.

Khatami kicked off Iran's nuclear project. It remained hidden under him till Ahmadenejad. He is also a true statesmen. He's also married to Mousa Sadr's :wub: niece.

Imam Musa Sadr's niece isn't necessarily anything special, just because she is his niece.

I can't even list all of the children of shohada who went green. (Just look at Hassan Khomeini.)

[Ugly Jinn]

Just viewed the interview, for once Ahmadinejad sounded reasonable. Wished he was like this since Day 1.

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

^^ khobi bro. If Rahbar trusts him to carry out his duties as president, then i trust him :)

[baradar_jackson]

^^ khobi bro. If Rahbar trusts him to carry out his duties as president, then i trust him :)

Haji the leader only intervenes in extreme circumstances.

And because liberals have become much bigger in number than before, Seyyed Ali's leadership has been characterized by much more caution than Imam Khomeini's.

But I remember specifically during Khatami's time, you couldn't go to a movie theater without watching a movie that showed hezbollahis in a bad light. Even today we have problems with this, but back then it was quite blatant and obvious.

I don't think such a hybrid system is possible, where the cultural and propaganda apparatus espouses beliefs that are opposed to the official ideology.

[repenter-gone4awhile]

First of all, Khatami didn't start the Nuclear Program, it existed before him, he did however cave in and stop it.

Secondly, Khatami should first stop touching non-mahram girls in public, then we can start discussing his political failures.

Thirdly, Ahmadinejad has done some mistakes, which is natural for everyone to do, his biggest one was some of his stubbornness towards Rahbar. However, even rahbar keeps saying that this government has done A LOT since it took place, and we should all be grateful.

If you list all the good programs Ahmadinejad started and actually finished, you will end up with a result that is far greater than all the other presidents combined, and he did so with great opposition.

I only wish he would put aside Mashai faster than he did.

[azmana786]

Nuclear program in Iran is as in the train which does not has a break and a reversed gear. The quotation from Ahmadinejad which I still can remember.

[baradar_jackson]

First of all, Khatami didn't start the Nuclear Program, it existed before him, he did however cave in and stop it.

Secondly, Khatami should first stop touching non-mahram girls in public, then we can start discussing his political failures.

Thirdly, Ahmadinejad has done some mistakes, which is natural for everyone to do, his biggest one was some of his stubbornness towards Rahbar. However, even rahbar keeps saying that this government has done A LOT since it took place, and we should all be grateful.

If you list all the good programs Ahmadinejad started and actually finished, you will end up with a result that is far greater than all the other presidents combined, and he did so with great opposition.

I only wish he would put aside Mashai faster than he did.

Did he stop the entire nuclear program? I think he just stopped uranium enrichment?