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With famine swallowing more areas in Somalia, the country is plunging into historically tragic proportions. More children are dying of hunger every day; international assistance is painfully slow and the international community is inexcusably oblivious of the dire straits threatening the lives of millions in the African country.

Among the most heart-rending stories regarding Somalia was the report that over 29,000 children under the age of five have perished over the past three months due to a lack of food and a severe drought that has 3.2 million people in its claws. The United Nations says 3.7 million people face starvation. To crown it all, the combination of drought, conflict and poverty has been conducive to the outbreak of famine. The current drought is the worst in more than half a century affecting the lives of 10,000 Somalis. Over 166,000 Somalis have fled for their lives to neighboring countries such as Kenya and Ethiopia.

Kenya and the United Nations have been severely lambasted for the continued closure of a multimillion-pound refugee camp left empty in spite of the crisis which is gradually bringing the African country to its helpless knees. The UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) is accused of evading striking a deal with Kenya to open up a camp that cost international donors $60m (£37m) to build and has been left unused and locked since last November.

"To the thousands of desperate Somalis arriving every day, the sight of a fully equipped refugee camp standing empty must be the ultimate rebuke," said Daniel Bekele, Africa director at Human Rights Watch. The New York-based watchdog has demanded that the Kenyan government immediately open up the extra camp adjacent to the existing Dadaab complex of refugee camps in northern Kenya, which now shelters 440,000 people, according to a report in The Independent.

The crisis is also exacerbated by piracy in the country.

"Absolutely, piracy is very much a concern and not abating at all," the African Development Bank's chief economist Mthuli Ncube told the Guardian. "It hampers the delivery of food aid. Some has to be flown in, which has an impact on cost, or it has to go to ports like Mombasa, Kenya, and then be driven overland, which takes time."

A new report by the African Development Bank (AfDB) reveals that piracy has long been a problem for aid efforts to Somalia as 80%-90% of food aid arrives by sea. The World Food Programme (WFP), the UN's food aid agency, reported in 2007 that the ships that could carry food aid had been cut by half because of the grave threat of the pirates in Somali waters.

The UN released a report on Wednesday and revealed that cereal prices had reached records high in the Horn of Africa, exacerbating an already precarious situation for the millions of the starving population.

The Food and Agriculture Organization also said that price of milk had reached a very high peak.

The images of the gaunt faces and twig-like bodies of Somali kids are enough to make every human eye wet with tears and every heart bleed with pain.

The US government is spending millions of dollars every day on its warmongering adventures in the region. Only in Libya, it is reportedly spending more than ten million dollars a day. Just imagine in the first four days of the US-led military strike on Libya, about 162 Tomahawk missiles were launched at Libyan targets in the Operation Odyssey Dawn which cost more than $1 million each. The F-15E fighter plane that was lost to mechanical failure cost about $30 million.

According to a report published in The Washington Post, experts from the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment released a study estimating that a limited no-fly zone such as the one established over the Libyan population areas could cost $30 million to $100 million a week.

The US has spent millions of dollars on its military escapades in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya. By indulging in different military adventures, the US government keeps lurching from one quagmire to another, leaving the country in debt and financial crisis. However, apart from the costs inflicted on the American citizens, it is also exacting a toll on the whole region by creating insecurity and crisis.

Isn't it time for the US government to be jolted into the bitter reality that instead of waging wars here and there in the world and playing havoc with the lives and fates of millions of people around the world and spending millions of US dollars, they could feed the starved Africans and help the global community and, say, be constructive rather than destructive?

Isn't it time for the international community to perceive the truth that they need to take speedy measures before it is too late to help the desperate people threatened by starvation in Africa and elsewhere?

Let us hope Somalia does not become another case of too little too late.

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Hey knucklehead

The US is spending money for famine relief in Somalia. The US just approved $105 million to help. US is the top donor to Somalia.

http://www.huffingto...d_n_921125.html

The US gives "tied aid" which is just backdoor subsidies for big Amerikkkan agri-business you imperialist supporting fool.

http://www.oxfamamer...searchterm=None

Quote- The tied aid "round trip"

Many countries tie their aid, but the US ties more of its aid than any other donor. When aid is tied, it makes a "round trip": US aid overseas is implemented by US companies using US consultants and US goods. Most of the value flows right back to the US instead of promoting growth abroad.

end quote.

Also from imperialist Amerikkka's own thieving "USAID" thugs; http://www.lobbywatc...e1.asp?PrId=165

Quote- The USAID website candidly states, 'The principal beneficiary of America's foreign assistance programs has always been the United States. Close to 80% of the USAID contracts and grants go directly to American firms. Foreign assistance programs have helped create major markets for agricultural goods, created new markets for American industrial exports and meant hundreds of thousands of jobs for Americans.' (See USAID and GM food aid)

end quote.

Why don't you educate yourself before you open your imperialist supporting mouth (Rothschild usury lover).

http://www.vexen.co....oreign_aid.html

http://www.vexen.co....es/charity.html

"[Americans] are regularly told by politicians and the media, that America is the world's most generous nation. This is one of the most conventional pieces of 'knowledgeable ignorance'. According to the OECD, the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, the US gave between $6 and $15 billion in foreign aid in the period between 1995 and 1999. In absolute terms, Japan gives more than the US, between $9 and $15 billion in the same period. But the absolute figures are less significant than the proportion of gross domestic product (GDP, or national wealth) that a country devotes to foreign aid. On that league table, the US ranks twenty-second of the 22 most developed nations. As former President Jimmy Carter commented: 'We are the stingiest nation of all'. Denmark is top of the table, giving 1.01% of GDP, while the US manages just 0.1%. The United Nations has long established the target of 0.7% GDP for development assistance, although only four countries actually achieve this: Denmark, 1.01%; Norway, 0.91%; the Netherlands, 0.79%; Sweden, 0.7%. Apart from being the least generous nation, the US is highly selective in who receives its aid. Over 50% of its aid budget is spent on middle-income countries in the Middle East, with Israel being the recipient of the largest single share"

"Why Do People Hate America?" by Ziauddin Sardar and Merryl Wyn Davies (2002)

"US aid, which acquired an increasingly military flavour during the Reagan years, is now concentrated on a relatively small number of countries of special political importance."

"Introduction to International Politics" by Heater & Berridge (1992)

http://www.fair.org/...x.php?page=2676

"In other words, it somehow isn’t fair to expect the U.S. to contribute the same percentage as other countries—because the U.S. is so much wealthier."

...

Given that Norway’s economy is less than 2 percent that of the U.S., it’s not surprising that its total foreign aid budget is not large in absolute terms. But it’s not true that Americans are privately more generous than Norwegians: Norway’s per capita private aid contributions are almost five times the U.S.’s, according to the Center for Global Development (12/29/04).

The Times’ editorial page (12/30/04) did give a context to U.S. aid giving, both for the tsunami disaster and for development in general, leading the page to call the U.S. “stingy.” Observing the difference between how Americans view their aid-giving and the reality, it said that “Bush administration officials help create that perception gap.” Selective reporting contributes as well.

end quote.

As for alleged $105 million that is a pathetic amount from the imperialist Amerikkkans (and, if it even is sent by the US government at all, it is again just backdoor subsidies for big US agribusiness who just want to make more money by oppressing the third world; again see tied "aid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tied_aid). Also the US spends $300 million a day to occupy and destroy the nation of Afghanistan; that is almost $200 million a day more than the figure you gave for what the US government (that also caused the problem of global warming, IMF/World Bank imperialist policies, and started and have perpetuated the war situation in Somalia by doing US drone bombings against the country and by having the Christian led US puppet crusader state of Ethiopia illegally invade and occupy Somalia back in 2006 under President Bush) alleged "giving" to Somalia (again just tied "aid" if anything).

Afghan war costs $300 million a day: Pentagon

(AFP) – Feb 14, 2011

http://www.google.co...zkuECkRJvsAlNkA

And from back in 2006 the war profiteering US military industrial complex was spending $2 billion a week to illegally occupy, strip mine, and destroy the nation and people of Iraq: http://www.boston.co...arly_2b_a_week/

Cost of Iraq war nearly $2b a week

September 28, 2006

end quote.

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The imperialist, murderous, thieving Amerikkkan Empire's massive military spending: http://www.yesmagazi...litary-spending

The US imperialist government also gives most of its "aid" money to the colonialist Zionist "Israeli" entity that continues to commit its land theft and genocide against the indigenous Palestinian people.

israel-aid.jpg

http://www.wrmea.org...-to-israel.html

Quote-Visitors will learn that in precisely the same 1949-1996 time frame, the total of U.S. foreign aid to all of the countries of sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean combined was $62,497,800,000--almost exactly the amount given to tiny Israel.

According to the Population Reference Bureau of Washington, DC, in mid-1995 the sub-Saharan countries had a combined population of 568 million. The $24,415,700,000 in foreign aid they had received by then amounted to $42.99 per sub-Saharan African.

Similarly, with a combined population of 486 million, all of the countries of Latin America and the Caribbean together had received $38,254,400,000. This amounted to $79 per person.

The per capita U.S. foreign aid to Israel's 5.8 million people during the same period was $10,775.48. This meant that for every dollar the U.S. spent on an African, it spent $250.65 on an Israeli, and for every dollar it spent on someone from the Western Hemisphere outside the United States, it spent $214 on an Israeli."

end quote.

On Somalia itself: http://www.hiiraan.c..._time_soon.aspx

Quote-

Meanwhile, dozens of humanitarian agencies are clamouring to make an appearance in Dadaab in order to raise funds for their own organisations. Dutch journalist Linda Polman calls it “The Crisis Caravan”.

In her book by the same name, Polman says that an entire industry has grown around humanitarian aid, “with cavalcades of organisations following the flow of money and competing with each other in one humanitarian territory after another for the biggest achievable share of billions.”

According to Polman, disasters like the one in Somalia attract an average 1,000 national and international aid organisations. This doesn’t include “briefcase” charities that collect funds through churches, clubs and bake-sales.

Much of the money raised goes to administrative and logistical costs of aid agencies, including the salaries of bright-eyed aid workers, such as the one described above, who drive big cars and live in nice houses, but tell people back home they live in hardship areas where they help starving Africans.

Are people starving? Yes. Should they be helped? Of course. But how much of the food that is supposed to be distributed will most likely be stolen by militia or find its way to shops where it will be sold?

Also obscured in the media hype is the real cause of famine in places such as Somalia. In a recent article, Michel Chossudovsky, professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and founder of the Centre for Research on Globalisation, argues that in the 1980s, agriculture in Somalia was severely affected by economic reforms imposed by the IMF and the World Bank. Somalia remained self-sufficient in food until the late 1970s despite recurrent droughts, he writes.The economic reforms, which included austerity measures and privatisation of essential services, destabilised the economy and destroyed agriculture. Wages in the public sector were drastically reduced, urban purchasing power declined dramatically and the cost of fuel, fertiliser and farm inputs shot up. This set the stage for the civil war in 1991, from which Somalia has yet to recover.

Famine and food aid became the norm, as hundreds of aid agencies set up shop to handle a crisis that was of their own making.

In short, Somalia became a “business opportunity” that provided jobs to hundreds, if not thousands of (mostly Western) aid agency employees.

Nicholas Stockton, a former Oxfam executive director, once called this phenomenon “the moral economy”.

Michael Maren, whose book, The Road to Hell, should be required reading for those who want to understand the politics and economy of food aid, shows how this aid suppressed local food production in Somalia, fuelled civil war and created a permanent food crisis.

This crisis and the lack of a strong, well-functioning central government have also resulted in a situation where aid agencies are zipping in and out of Somalia without any vetting by the government.

In effect, Somalia is being managed and controlled by aid agencies — the government is there in name only.

end quote.

The Famine in Somalia. The Use of Food as an Instrument of Warfare

U.S. and Ethiopia Kill Somalis With Food Weapon

by Glen Ford

http://www.globalres...xt=va&aid=25724

Somalia: the Real Causes of Famine

by Michel Chossudovsky

http://www.globalres...xt=va&aid=25725

Quote-

Concluding Remarks

While "external" climatic variables play a role in triggering off a famine and heightening the social impact of drought, famines in the age of globalization are man-made. They are not the consequence of a scarcity of food but of a structure of global oversupply which undermines food security and destroys national food agriculture. Tightly regulated and controlled by international agri-business, this oversupply is ultimately conducive to the stagnation of both production and consumption of essential food staples and the impoverishment of farmers throughout the world. Moreover, in the era of globalization, the IMF-World Bank structural adjustment program bears a direct relationship to the process of famine formation because it systematically undermines all categories of economic activity, whether urban or rural, which do not directly serve the interests of the global market system.

(for footnotes see Chapter in the Globalization of Poverty)

end quote.

Horn of Africa Famine: Millions at Risk in "Deadly Cocktail" of War, Climate Change, Neoliberalism

http://www.democracy...ine_millions_at

On Muslim nations giving aid (and more aid than imperialist "tied aid" doing Amerikkkan thieves)

"Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei has donated IRR 200,000,000 (roughly USD 20,000) to the famine-stricken people of Somalia."

http://www.presstv.i...ail/191716.html

"Iran says it plans to dispatch a second humanitarian aid convoy to Somalia to help the starving people in the crisis-hit East African country."

http://www.presstv.i...ail/191119.html

"Iran aid plane lands in troubled Somalia" (and the Islamic Republic of Iran is doing this giving of aid, while still under crashing imperialist Amerikkkan/Zionist backed sanctions)

http://www.presstv.i...ail/193519.html

"Saudi government grants $60 million aid to Somalia"

http://www.bar-kulan...aid-to-somalia/

From September 13, 2010 "UAE (United Arab Emirates) largest global aid donor in gross income terms"

http://www.zawya.com...A20100913035234

Quote- "Moreover, Arab aid is generally untied, and is offered without conditions or restrictions. Over time, Arab donors have expanded their reach-beyond Arab and predominantly Muslim countries in terms of recipient countries and beyond infrastructure in terms of sectors.

Their assistance has come to play a major role in total ODA flows to several developing countries," the report said.

The study noted that at present, the Arab official financial assistance covers a wide range of nations, especially poor countries in sub-Saharan Africa such as Mali, Mauritania, Senegal, Somalia, and Sudan; and in Asia such as Cambodia, Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, and Vietnam.

end quote.

http://www.defence.p...ags-behind.html

"EXTRA: Saudi Arabia lead humanitarian donor, US lags behind : World

Geneva - Saudi Arabia was the largest international donor to humanitarian appeals, when measured as a percentage of the national economy, the United Nations reported Tuesday. The Saudi kingdom gave 0.19 per cent of its gross domestic product (GDP) to humanitarian funding.

Sweden, which gave 0.14 per cent of its national product and Norway with 0.13, followed in the list of top donor countries.

Many small European countries, with large and generally affluent populations, were also part of the lead countries by GDP. Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates were also large proportional donors.

The United States came in 19th on the list, having donated 0.02 per cent of GDP in 2008, ahead of Tonga.

The figures were released on the same day the UN announced its humanitarian appeals for 2009 are short 4.8 billion dollars six months into the year."

US imperialism lies of "aid" in Afghanistan: http://articles.sfga...onor-aid-column

Quote- Other answers appear in a fact-packed report issued in June 2005 by Action Aid, a widely respected nongovernmental organization headquartered in Johannesburg. The report studies development aid given by all countries worldwide and says that only part of it -- maybe 40 percent -- is real. The rest is phantom aid. That is, it never shows up in recipient countries at all.

Some of it doesn't even exist except as an accounting item, as when countries count debt relief or the construction costs of a fancy new embassy in the aid column. A lot of it never leaves home; paychecks for American "experts" under contract to USAID go directly to their U.S. banks. Much of the money is thrown away on "overpriced and ineffective technical assistance," such as those hot-shot American experts, the report said. And big chunks are tied to the donor, which means that the recipient is obliged to use the money to buy products from the donor country, even when -- especially when -- the same goods are available cheaper at home.

To no one's surprise, the United States easily outstrips other nations at most of these scams, making it second only to France as the world's biggest purveyor of phantom aid. Fully 47 percent of U.S. development aid is lavished on overpriced technical assistance. By comparison, only 4 percent of Sweden's aid budget goes to technical assistance, while Luxembourg and Ireland lay out only 2 percent.

end quote.

And lastly to close: http://www.ironworks...t=80792&page=11

Quote- Here's also something from a certain Andrew Simms, head of the global economy program at the London-based think-tank, New Economic Foundation: "As a consequence of American policies, in a single day under globalisation, poor countries lose nearly $2 billion due to rigged international trade, 30,000 children die from preventable diseases, and $60 million drains from poor to rich countries in debt."

end quote.

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The US gives "tied aid" which is just backdoor subsidies for big Amerikkkan agri-business you imperialist supporting fool. http://www.oxfamamer...searchterm=None Quote- The tied aid "round trip" Many countries tie their aid, but the US ties more of its aid than any other donor. When aid is tied, it makes a "round trip": US aid overseas is implemented by US companies using US consultants and US goods. Most of the value flows right back to the US instead of promoting growth abroad. end quote. Also from imperialist Amerikkka's own thieving "USAID" thugs; http://www.lobbywatc...e1.asp?PrId=165 Quote- The USAID website candidly states, 'The principal beneficiary of America's foreign assistance programs has always been the United States. Close to 80% of the USAID contracts and grants go directly to American firms. Foreign assistance programs have helped create major markets for agricultural goods, created new markets for American industrial exports and meant hundreds of thousands of jobs for Americans.' (See USAID and GM food aid) end quote. Why don't you educate yourself before you open your imperialist supporting mouth (Rothschild usury lover). http://www.vexen.co....oreign_aid.html http://www.vexen.co....es/charity.html "[Americans] are regularly told by politicians and the media, that America is the world's most generous nation. This is one of the most conventional pieces of 'knowledgeable ignorance'. According to the OECD, the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, the US gave between $6 and $15 billion in foreign aid in the period between 1995 and 1999. In absolute terms, Japan gives more than the US, between $9 and $15 billion in the same period. But the absolute figures are less significant than the proportion of gross domestic product (GDP, or national wealth) that a country devotes to foreign aid. On that league table, the US ranks twenty-second of the 22 most developed nations. As former President Jimmy Carter commented: 'We are the stingiest nation of all'. Denmark is top of the table, giving 1.01% of GDP, while the US manages just 0.1%. The United Nations has long established the target of 0.7% GDP for development assistance, although only four countries actually achieve this: Denmark, 1.01%; Norway, 0.91%; the Netherlands, 0.79%; Sweden, 0.7%. Apart from being the least generous nation, the US is highly selective in who receives its aid. Over 50% of its aid budget is spent on middle-income countries in the Middle East, with Israel being the recipient of the largest single share" "Why Do People Hate America?" by Ziauddin Sardar and Merryl Wyn Davies (2002) "US aid, which acquired an increasingly military flavour during the Reagan years, is now concentrated on a relatively small number of countries of special political importance." "Introduction to International Politics" by Heater & Berridge (1992) http://www.fair.org/...x.php?page=2676 "In other words, it somehow isn’t fair to expect the U.S. to contribute the same percentage as other countries—because the U.S. is so much wealthier." ... Given that Norway’s economy is less than 2 percent that of the U.S., it’s not surprising that its total foreign aid budget is not large in absolute terms. But it’s not true that Americans are privately more generous than Norwegians: Norway’s per capita private aid contributions are almost five times the U.S.’s, according to the Center for Global Development (12/29/04). The Times’ editorial page (12/30/04) did give a context to U.S. aid giving, both for the tsunami disaster and for development in general, leading the page to call the U.S. “stingy.” Observing the difference between how Americans view their aid-giving and the reality, it said that “Bush administration officials help create that perception gap.” Selective reporting contributes as well. end quote. As for alleged $105 million that is a pathetic amount from the imperialist Amerikkkans (and, if it even is sent by the US government at all, it is again just backdoor subsidies for big US agribusiness who just want to make more money by oppressing the third world; again see tied "aid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tied_aid). Also the US spends $300 million a day to occupy and destroy the nation of Afghanistan; that is almost $200 million a day more than the figure you gave for what the US government (that also caused the problem of global warming, IMF/World Bank imperialist policies, and started and have perpetuated the war situation in Somalia by doing US drone bombings against the country and by having the Christian led US puppet crusader state of Ethiopia illegally invade and occupy Somalia back in 2006 under President Bush) alleged "giving" to Somalia (again just tied "aid" if anything). Afghan war costs $300 million a day: Pentagon (AFP) – Feb 14, 2011 http://www.google.co...zkuECkRJvsAlNkA And from back in 2006 the war profiteering US military industrial complex was spending $2 billion a week to illegally occupy, strip mine, and destroy the nation and people of Iraq: http://www.boston.co...arly_2b_a_week/ Cost of Iraq war nearly $2b a week September 28, 2006 end quote. Reezu_2194.jpg The imperialist, murderous, thieving Amerikkkan Empire's massive military spending: http://www.yesmagazi...litary-spending The US imperialist government also gives most of its "aid" money to the colonialist Zionist "Israeli" entity that continues to commit its land theft and genocide against the indigenous Palestinian people. israel-aid.jpghttp://www.wrmea.org...-to-israel.html Quote-Visitors will learn that in precisely the same 1949-1996 time frame, the total of U.S. foreign aid to all of the countries of sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean combined was $62,497,800,000--almost exactly the amount given to tiny Israel. According to the Population Reference Bureau of Washington, DC, in mid-1995 the sub-Saharan countries had a combined population of 568 million. The $24,415,700,000 in foreign aid they had received by then amounted to $42.99 per sub-Saharan African. Similarly, with a combined population of 486 million, all of the countries of Latin America and the Caribbean together had received $38,254,400,000. This amounted to $79 per person. The per capita U.S. foreign aid to Israel's 5.8 million people during the same period was $10,775.48. This meant that for every dollar the U.S. spent on an African, it spent $250.65 on an Israeli, and for every dollar it spent on someone from the Western Hemisphere outside the United States, it spent $214 on an Israeli." end quote. On Somalia itself: http://www.hiiraan.c..._time_soon.aspx Quote- Meanwhile, dozens of humanitarian agencies are clamouring to make an appearance in Dadaab in order to raise funds for their own organisations. Dutch journalist Linda Polman calls it “The Crisis Caravan”. In her book by the same name, Polman says that an entire industry has grown around humanitarian aid, “with cavalcades of organisations following the flow of money and competing with each other in one humanitarian territory after another for the biggest achievable share of billions.” According to Polman, disasters like the one in Somalia attract an average 1,000 national and international aid organisations. This doesn’t include “briefcase” charities that collect funds through churches, clubs and bake-sales. Much of the money raised goes to administrative and logistical costs of aid agencies, including the salaries of bright-eyed aid workers, such as the one described above, who drive big cars and live in nice houses, but tell people back home they live in hardship areas where they help starving Africans. Are people starving? Yes. Should they be helped? Of course. But how much of the food that is supposed to be distributed will most likely be stolen by militia or find its way to shops where it will be sold? Also obscured in the media hype is the real cause of famine in places such as Somalia. In a recent article, Michel Chossudovsky, professor of Economics at the University of Ottawa and founder of the Centre for Research on Globalisation, argues that in the 1980s, agriculture in Somalia was severely affected by economic reforms imposed by the IMF and the World Bank. Somalia remained self-sufficient in food until the late 1970s despite recurrent droughts, he writes.The economic reforms, which included austerity measures and privatisation of essential services, destabilised the economy and destroyed agriculture. Wages in the public sector were drastically reduced, urban purchasing power declined dramatically and the cost of fuel, fertiliser and farm inputs shot up. This set the stage for the civil war in 1991, from which Somalia has yet to recover. Famine and food aid became the norm, as hundreds of aid agencies set up shop to handle a crisis that was of their own making. In short, Somalia became a “business opportunity” that provided jobs to hundreds, if not thousands of (mostly Western) aid agency employees. Nicholas Stockton, a former Oxfam executive director, once called this phenomenon “the moral economy”. Michael Maren, whose book, The Road to Hell, should be required reading for those who want to understand the politics and economy of food aid, shows how this aid suppressed local food production in Somalia, fuelled civil war and created a permanent food crisis. This crisis and the lack of a strong, well-functioning central government have also resulted in a situation where aid agencies are zipping in and out of Somalia without any vetting by the government. In effect, Somalia is being managed and controlled by aid agencies — the government is there in name only. end quote. The Famine in Somalia. The Use of Food as an Instrument of Warfare U.S. and Ethiopia Kill Somalis With Food Weapon by Glen Ford http://www.globalres...xt=va&aid=25724 Somalia: the Real Causes of Famine by Michel Chossudovsky http://www.globalres...xt=va&aid=25725 Quote- Concluding Remarks While "external" climatic variables play a role in triggering off a famine and heightening the social impact of drought, famines in the age of globalization are man-made. They are not the consequence of a scarcity of food but of a structure of global oversupply which undermines food security and destroys national food agriculture. Tightly regulated and controlled by international agri-business, this oversupply is ultimately conducive to the stagnation of both production and consumption of essential food staples and the impoverishment of farmers throughout the world. Moreover, in the era of globalization, the IMF-World Bank structural adjustment program bears a direct relationship to the process of famine formation because it systematically undermines all categories of economic activity, whether urban or rural, which do not directly serve the interests of the global market system. (for footnotes see Chapter in the Globalization of Poverty) end quote. Horn of Africa Famine: Millions at Risk in "Deadly Cocktail" of War, Climate Change, Neoliberalism http://www.democracy...ine_millions_at On Muslim nations giving aid (and more aid than imperialist "tied aid" doing Amerikkkan thieves) "Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei has donated IRR 200,000,000 (roughly USD 20,000) to the famine-stricken people of Somalia." http://www.presstv.i...ail/191716.html "Iran says it plans to dispatch a second humanitarian aid convoy to Somalia to help the starving people in the crisis-hit East African country." http://www.presstv.i...ail/191119.html "Iran aid plane lands in troubled Somalia" (and the Islamic Republic of Iran is doing this giving of aid, while still under crashing imperialist Amerikkkan/Zionist backed sanctions) http://www.presstv.i...ail/193519.html "Saudi government grants $60 million aid to Somalia" http://www.bar-kulan...aid-to-somalia/ From September 13, 2010 "UAE (United Arab Emirates) largest global aid donor in gross income terms" http://www.zawya.com...A20100913035234 Quote- "Moreover, Arab aid is generally untied, and is offered without conditions or restrictions. Over time, Arab donors have expanded their reach-beyond Arab and predominantly Muslim countries in terms of recipient countries and beyond infrastructure in terms of sectors. Their assistance has come to play a major role in total ODA flows to several developing countries," the report said. The study noted that at present, the Arab official financial assistance covers a wide range of nations, especially poor countries in sub-Saharan Africa such as Mali, Mauritania, Senegal, Somalia, and Sudan; and in Asia such as Cambodia, Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, and Vietnam. end quote. http://www.defence.p...ags-behind.html "EXTRA: Saudi Arabia lead humanitarian donor, US lags behind : World Geneva - Saudi Arabia was the largest international donor to humanitarian appeals, when measured as a percentage of the national economy, the United Nations reported Tuesday. The Saudi kingdom gave 0.19 per cent of its gross domestic product (GDP) to humanitarian funding. Sweden, which gave 0.14 per cent of its national product and Norway with 0.13, followed in the list of top donor countries. Many small European countries, with large and generally affluent populations, were also part of the lead countries by GDP. Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates were also large proportional donors. The United States came in 19th on the list, having donated 0.02 per cent of GDP in 2008, ahead of Tonga. The figures were released on the same day the UN announced its humanitarian appeals for 2009 are short 4.8 billion dollars six months into the year." US imperialism lies of "aid" in Afghanistan: http://articles.sfga...onor-aid-column Quote- Other answers appear in a fact-packed report issued in June 2005 by Action Aid, a widely respected nongovernmental organization headquartered in Johannesburg. The report studies development aid given by all countries worldwide and says that only part of it -- maybe 40 percent -- is real. The rest is phantom aid. That is, it never shows up in recipient countries at all. Some of it doesn't even exist except as an accounting item, as when countries count debt relief or the construction costs of a fancy new embassy in the aid column. A lot of it never leaves home; paychecks for American "experts" under contract to USAID go directly to their U.S. banks. Much of the money is thrown away on "overpriced and ineffective technical assistance," such as those hot-shot American experts, the report said. And big chunks are tied to the donor, which means that the recipient is obliged to use the money to buy products from the donor country, even when -- especially when -- the same goods are available cheaper at home. To no one's surprise, the United States easily outstrips other nations at most of these scams, making it second only to France as the world's biggest purveyor of phantom aid. Fully 47 percent of U.S. development aid is lavished on overpriced technical assistance. By comparison, only 4 percent of Sweden's aid budget goes to technical assistance, while Luxembourg and Ireland lay out only 2 percent. end quote. And lastly to close: http://www.ironworks...t=80792&page=11 Quote- Here's also something from a certain Andrew Simms, head of the global economy program at the London-based think-tank, New Economic Foundation: "As a consequence of American policies, in a single day under globalisation, poor countries lose nearly $2 billion due to rigged international trade, 30,000 children die from preventable diseases, and $60 million drains from poor to rich countries in debt." end quote.

As usual, you are a pro-IRI stooge who only supports the repression of the IRI because you are a Shiite. You care nothing of other cultures or beliefs. You will mold any pro-Iran anti-West statement without thought, to serve your corrupt ideology.

Who gives a rat's butt where the food is coming from. The USA is covering the tab, so who's business is it where they get it from? Is it more important that starving people be fed? If it comes from Israel or even the moon, what difference does it make?

Someone like you would rather a whole country die than have someone expose you and your ideology for what it is.

If you are so righteous, what have you done for human society lately. Let me guess... probably nothing.

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Isn't it time for the US government to be jolted into the bitter reality that instead of waging wars here and there in the world and playing havoc with the lives and fates of millions of people around the world and spending millions of US dollars, they could feed the starved Africans and help the global community and, say, be constructive rather than destructive?

How generous of you to spend money which is not yours.

Tell us, why don't islamist nations with their vast oil wealth do more to help?

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As usual, you are a pro-IRI stooge who only supports the repression of the IRI because you are a Shiite. You care nothing of other cultures or beliefs. You will mold any pro-Iran anti-West statement without thought, to serve your corrupt ideology.

Who gives a rat's butt where the food is coming from. The USA is covering the tab, so who's business is it where they get it from? Is it more important that starving people be fed? If it comes from Israel or even the moon, what difference does it make?

Someone like you would rather a whole country die than have someone expose you and your ideology for what it is.

If you are so righteous, what have you done for human society lately. Let me guess... probably nothing.

Your an idiot, you don't even bother responding to my crushing refutation of your bs. You should at least read a book or two about what "food aid" is really about, making more massive profits for big Western (mostly Amerikkkan) agribusiness while also simultaneously destroying and making sure the oppressed people of the "third world" remain in a constant state of poverty. Heck even some economically far right wing Amerikkkan political candidates like Ron Paul have noted that the "US aid" is nothing but a ploy wherein the US government and big agribusiness team up and very few of the people in the "third world" country "receiving" alleged US "aid" ever get any benefit.

Again imperialist Amerikkka's own "USAID" itself admits the evildoing they are up to:

http://www.lobbywatc...e1.asp?PrId=165

Quote-

The USAID website candidly states, 'The principal beneficiary of America's foreign assistance programs has always been the United States. Close to 80% of the USAID contracts and grants go directly to American firms. Foreign assistance programs have helped create major markets for agricultural goods, created new markets for American industrial exports and meant hundreds of thousands of jobs for Americans.' (See USAID and GM food aid)

end quote.

And again: http://www.oxfamamer...searchterm=None

Quote- Many countries tie their aid, but the US ties more of its aid than any other donor. When aid is tied, it makes a "round trip": US aid overseas is implemented by US companies using US consultants and US goods. Most of the value flows right back to the US instead of promoting growth abroad.

end quote.

Some important books on this topic:

road-hell-michael-maren-paperback-cover-art.jpg

62141054_b.jpg

Oh yeah and the situation of starvation and poverty in the "third world" itself are largely products of thieving Western imperialist bankers in the IMF and World Bank. Meaning Western imperialists (led by Amerikkka, where the destructive murderous IMF and World Bank are based in Washington, D.C.) started the whole problem in the first place. And don't forget global warming and climate change destruction that Western imperialist countries have created with their imperialist theft and misuse of the world's natural resources.

http://revcom.us/a/v...-39/936/imf.htm

"World Bank and IMF: Banking on Misery"

http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2011/04/imf-and-world-bank-create-poverty

"IMF and World Bank Create Poverty"

http://www.globalres...xt=va&aid=25725

Quote- While "external" climatic variables play a role in triggering off a famine and heightening the social impact of drought, famines in the age of globalization are man-made. They are not the consequence of a scarcity of food but of a structure of global oversupply which undermines food security and destroys national food agriculture. Tightly regulated and controlled by international agri-business, this oversupply is ultimately conducive to the stagnation of both production and consumption of essential food staples and the impoverishment of farmers throughout the world. Moreover, in the era of globalization, the IMF-World Bank structural adjustment program bears a direct relationship to the process of famine formation because it systematically undermines all categories of economic activity, whether urban or rural, which do not directly serve the interests of the global market system.

(for footnotes see Chapter in the Globalization of Poverty)"

end quote.

I also recommend these good reads for attempting to educate an idiotic imperialist like you to reality:

http://revcom.us/a/0...tem-poverty.htm

http://revcom.us/a/1208/aids-bush.htm

http://www.finalcall...aves_1597.shtml

and before you attempt to knock this last link see: http://en.wikipedia....ilis_experiment

Tuskegee syphilis experiment done by racist white Amerikkkans

http://en.wikipedia....ilis_experiment

Guatemalan syphilis experiment done by racist, imperialist white Amerikkkans

Among countless other racist, murderous, thieving imperialist Amerikkkan crimes that have been uncovered (think of all those that have not been uncovered).

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How generous of you to spend money which is not yours.

Tell us, why don't islamist nations with their vast oil wealth do more to help?

Your an idiot, "your wealth" you mean that which you got from stolen African slave labor (white "Christian" run Trans Atlantic slave trade killed up to 150 million Africans) and also your alleged "wealth" also "built" (again by African slaves) on the land of indigenous Mongoloid Native Americans you white European evil colonialist invaders stole; and then you committed one of the largest genocides in human history killing at least 100 million Native Americans.

0195085574.jpg

As for "Islamists", I assume your trying to talk about say the monarchy of Saudi Arabia which is a puppet monarchy of the US imperialist regime.

Hob_hos.jpg

And even the Saudis are far more generous then imperialist Amerikkka (and note well again that imperialist Amerikkka just uses tied "aid" to make big profits for fatcat Amerikkkan mega corporations and then calls this, along with military aid to Zionist "Israel" and all other forms of imperialism, alleged "help" and "aid")

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/43792-un-report-saudi-arabia-lead-humanitarian-donor-us-lags-behind.html

EXTRA: Saudi Arabia lead humanitarian donor, US lags behind : World

Quote- Geneva - Saudi Arabia was the largest international donor to humanitarian appeals, when measured as a percentage of the national economy, the United Nations reported Tuesday. The Saudi kingdom gave 0.19 per cent of its gross domestic product (GDP) to humanitarian funding.

Sweden, which gave 0.14 per cent of its national product and Norway with 0.13, followed in the list of top donor countries.

Many small European countries, with large and generally affluent populations, were also part of the lead countries by GDP. Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates were also large proportional donors.

The United States came in 19th on the list, having donated 0.02 per cent of GDP in 2008, ahead of Tonga.

The figures were released on the same day the UN announced its humanitarian appeals for 2009 are short 4.8 billion dollars six months into the year.

end quote.

Also on another Muslim country (I'm assuming you'd claim is allegedly "Islamist") the UAE (aka United Arab Emirates); note how the UAE gives actual, real untied aid (that is not just a backdoor subsidy for mega corporations like in the case of imperialist Amerikkkan tied "aid" and big US agribusiness, etc)

http://www.zawya.com...A20100913035234

"UAE largest global aid donor in gross income terms"

Quote- "Arab donors - predominantly Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE -have been among the most generous in the world, with official development assistance (ODA) averaging 1.5 per cent of their combined GNI during the period 1973-2008, more than twice the United Nations target of 0.7 per cent and five times the average of the OECD countries," the 40-page study said.

...

"Moreover, Arab aid is generally untied, and is offered without conditions or restrictions. Over time, Arab donors have expanded their reach-beyond Arab and predominantly Muslim countries in terms of recipient countries and beyond infrastructure in terms of sectors.

Their assistance has come to play a major role in total ODA flows to several developing countries," the report said.

The study noted that at present, the Arab official financial assistance covers a wide range of nations, especially poor countries in sub-Saharan Africa such as Mali, Mauritania, Senegal, Somalia, and Sudan; and in Asia such as Cambodia, Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, and Vietnam.

end quote.

Then as for the Islamic Republic of Iran; Iran has given tons of different forms of humanitarian aid all over the world; and note that Iran does this despite being under threats by Western imperialists and Iran is already living under Amerikkkan, Western, and Zionist imperialist economic (and other) sanctions (for nearly the last 30 years).

http://edition.press...ail/116527.html

Iran aid to Haiti;a nation which US and Zionist imperialism made poor via slavery and imperialism http://dissidentvoic...haiti-billions/

http://www.presstv.i...ail/169343.html

Iran aid to Japan

http://www.presstv.i...ail/176938.html

Japan thanks Iran (again Iran does all this while still under crushing imperialist Amerikkkan sanctions) for Iran's aid to Japan after the recent earthquake in Japan

Just some of Iran's aid in Somalia:

http://www.presstv.i...ail/191119.html

http://www.presstv.i...ail/191716.html

That Iran is so brave and kind to be able to send humanitarian aid around the world, despite being under the boot of imperialist Western/Zionist sanctions, is amazing and shows how blessed and kind the Islamic Republic of Iran truly is.

Also why does the imperialist Amerikkkan regime spend so much on military imperialism (can anyone say military-industrial complex, as Eisenhower mentioned)!

http://costofwar.com/en/

http://www.google.co...zkuECkRJvsAlNkA

Murderous Amerikkkan imperialist occupation and slaughter of Afghanistan, and the Afghani people, costs the US $300 million a day

http://www.boston.co...arly_2b_a_week/

From back in 2006, imperialist Amerikkkan military spending $2 billion a week in the slaughter and occupation of Iraq and the Iraqi people

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This is seriously getting worse.

Somalia Famine: UK Government Says Up To 400,000 Children Could Die Without More Aid

Mitchell said in neighboring Kenya that Britain will give UNICEF more than $41 million in additional aid. That will allow nearly 200,000 people to have two months of supplementary food rations and vaccinations against measles for 800,000 children.

More than 12 million people need food aid in drought-struck East Africa. More than 2 million live in areas controlled by the Somali militant group al-Shabab.

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Somalia isnt alone this poverty. I was reading about congo just recently. Absolutely horrid. Hopefully the rest of the world can get its own issues sorted out as well, then there may be more inclination to go support others.

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How generous of you to spend money which is not yours.

Tell us, why don't islamist nations with their vast oil wealth do more to help?

They do help. They support the fundamentalist zealots who move to deny the aid plus steal it when they can.

velayat2011:

How much aid does the US give to the Palestinians, Egypt etc etc. How much aid does that wonder of wonders, wonder how long they will last, Iran to Africa? What none, why because there are no Shia starving there. You arguement is full of holes.

This is seriously getting worse.

Somalia Famine: UK Government Says Up To 400,000 Children Could Die Without More Aid

Mitchell said in neighboring Kenya that Britain will give UNICEF more than $41 million in additional aid. That will allow nearly 200,000 people to have two months of supplementary food rations and vaccinations against measles for 800,000 children.

More than 12 million people need food aid in drought-struck East Africa. More than 2 million live in areas controlled by the Somali militant group al-Shabab.

The Islamic nations could end this tragedy in a week. The West should step aside and let them have at it.

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Your an idiot, "your wealth" you mean that which you got from stolen African slave labor (white "Christian" run Trans Atlantic slave trade killed up to 150 million Africans) and also your alleged "wealth" also "built" (again by African slaves) on the land of indigenous Mongoloid Native Americans you white European evil colonialist invaders stole; and then you committed one of the largest genocides in human history killing at least 100 million Native Americans.

0195085574.jpg

As for "Islamists", I assume your trying to talk about say the monarchy of Saudi Arabia which is a puppet monarchy of the US imperialist regime.

Hob_hos.jpg

And even the Saudis are far more generous then imperialist Amerikkka (and note well again that imperialist Amerikkka just uses tied "aid" to make big profits for fatcat Amerikkkan mega corporations and then calls this, along with military aid to Zionist "Israel" and all other forms of imperialism, alleged "help" and "aid")

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/43792-un-report-saudi-arabia-lead-humanitarian-donor-us-lags-behind.html

EXTRA: Saudi Arabia lead humanitarian donor, US lags behind : World

Quote- Geneva - Saudi Arabia was the largest international donor to humanitarian appeals, when measured as a percentage of the national economy, the United Nations reported Tuesday. The Saudi kingdom gave 0.19 per cent of its gross domestic product (GDP) to humanitarian funding.

Sweden, which gave 0.14 per cent of its national product and Norway with 0.13, followed in the list of top donor countries.

Many small European countries, with large and generally affluent populations, were also part of the lead countries by GDP. Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates were also large proportional donors.

The United States came in 19th on the list, having donated 0.02 per cent of GDP in 2008, ahead of Tonga.

The figures were released on the same day the UN announced its humanitarian appeals for 2009 are short 4.8 billion dollars six months into the year.

end quote.

Also on another Muslim country (I'm assuming you'd claim is allegedly "Islamist") the UAE (aka United Arab Emirates); note how the UAE gives actual, real untied aid (that is not just a backdoor subsidy for mega corporations like in the case of imperialist Amerikkkan tied "aid" and big US agribusiness, etc)

http://www.zawya.com...A20100913035234

"UAE largest global aid donor in gross income terms"

Quote- "Arab donors - predominantly Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE -have been among the most generous in the world, with official development assistance (ODA) averaging 1.5 per cent of their combined GNI during the period 1973-2008, more than twice the United Nations target of 0.7 per cent and five times the average of the OECD countries," the 40-page study said.

...

"Moreover, Arab aid is generally untied, and is offered without conditions or restrictions. Over time, Arab donors have expanded their reach-beyond Arab and predominantly Muslim countries in terms of recipient countries and beyond infrastructure in terms of sectors.

Their assistance has come to play a major role in total ODA flows to several developing countries," the report said.

The study noted that at present, the Arab official financial assistance covers a wide range of nations, especially poor countries in sub-Saharan Africa such as Mali, Mauritania, Senegal, Somalia, and Sudan; and in Asia such as Cambodia, Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, and Vietnam.

end quote.

Then as for the Islamic Republic of Iran; Iran has given tons of different forms of humanitarian aid all over the world; and note that Iran does this despite being under threats by Western imperialists and Iran is already living under Amerikkkan, Western, and Zionist imperialist economic (and other) sanctions (for nearly the last 30 years).

http://edition.press...ail/116527.html

Iran aid to Haiti;a nation which US and Zionist imperialism made poor via slavery and imperialism http://dissidentvoic...haiti-billions/

http://www.presstv.i...ail/169343.html

Iran aid to Japan

http://www.presstv.i...ail/176938.html

Japan thanks Iran (again Iran does all this while still under crushing imperialist Amerikkkan sanctions) for Iran's aid to Japan after the recent earthquake in Japan

Just some of Iran's aid in Somalia:

http://www.presstv.i...ail/191119.html

http://www.presstv.i...ail/191716.html

That Iran is so brave and kind to be able to send humanitarian aid around the world, despite being under the boot of imperialist Western/Zionist sanctions, is amazing and shows how blessed and kind the Islamic Republic of Iran truly is.

Also why does the imperialist Amerikkkan regime spend so much on military imperialism (can anyone say military-industrial complex, as Eisenhower mentioned)!

http://costofwar.com/en/

http://www.google.co...zkuECkRJvsAlNkA

Murderous Amerikkkan imperialist occupation and slaughter of Afghanistan, and the Afghani people, costs the US $300 million a day

http://www.boston.co...arly_2b_a_week/

From back in 2006, imperialist Amerikkkan military spending $2 billion a week in the slaughter and occupation of Iraq and the Iraqi people

blackwater.png

The Arab (or Muslim) slave trade has had a more disastrous influence on the World than what the Whites/Europeans/West have done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_slave_trade

All your posts, Basra, are full of hate and contempt. You provide no beneficial solutions to Humanity. What is it that you are trying to accomplish. Should the West and your kind be mortal enemies until the end of times?

Honestly, what are you trying to prove? What is it that you want the World to be or look like? Where is the tolerance and diversity?

Why doesn't someone ban Rothchild?

Yes, take that opinion. Oppress someone who might have a different opinion than you. That sounds like something the mullahs or theocracy of Iran would do. I am sure you would have no problem hanging me from a crane in Iran if you had a chance.

I don't have a problem with a religious website talking about religious ideals but when you start involving politics, then I think it is within my right to interject my opinion!

You must remember that Shiachat.com is hosted in the USA. As an American, I should have a say in expressing the other side. That is the American Way. That is what makes America better than any other country. It is the diversity that makes us great. You can continue down the narrow-minded path that you are on, but it will get you no where.

Think outside the box and try to be more open minded.... But maybe that is too much to ask.

Why doesn't someone ban Rothchild?

Why doesn't someone ban you for trying to suppress Free Speech.

How generous of you to spend money which is not yours.

Tell us, why don't islamist nations with their vast oil wealth do more to help?

Well, not to burst a bubble, but Iran has "apparently" spent $25 million for Somalia aid.

You have to wonder what type of strings are attached to such a situation. With the hardline mullahs in charge of Iran, I am sure they are trying to export Shia Islam to Somalia on an Imperialist approach. The only problem is that there is not a lot of transparency in Iran from a reporting perspective. Iran has never been this way. They have always tried to control the media to their advantage.

Your an idiot, you don't even bother responding to my crushing refutation of your bs. You should at least read a book or two about what "food aid" is really about, making more massive profits for big Western (mostly Amerikkkan) agribusiness while also simultaneously destroying and making sure the oppressed people of the "third world" remain in a constant state of poverty. Heck even some economically far right wing Amerikkkan political candidates like Ron Paul have noted that the "US aid" is nothing but a ploy wherein the US government and big agribusiness team up and very few of the people in the "third world" country "receiving" alleged US "aid" ever get any benefit.

Again imperialist Amerikkka's own "USAID" itself admits the evildoing they are up to:

http://www.lobbywatc...e1.asp?PrId=165

Quote-

The USAID website candidly states, 'The principal beneficiary of America's foreign assistance programs has always been the United States. Close to 80% of the USAID contracts and grants go directly to American firms. Foreign assistance programs have helped create major markets for agricultural goods, created new markets for American industrial exports and meant hundreds of thousands of jobs for Americans.' (See USAID and GM food aid)

end quote.

And again: http://www.oxfamamer...searchterm=None

Quote- Many countries tie their aid, but the US ties more of its aid than any other donor. When aid is tied, it makes a "round trip": US aid overseas is implemented by US companies using US consultants and US goods. Most of the value flows right back to the US instead of promoting growth abroad.

end quote.

Some important books on this topic:

road-hell-michael-maren-paperback-cover-art.jpg

62141054_b.jpg

Oh yeah and the situation of starvation and poverty in the "third world" itself are largely products of thieving Western imperialist bankers in the IMF and World Bank. Meaning Western imperialists (led by Amerikkka, where the destructive murderous IMF and World Bank are based in Washington, D.C.) started the whole problem in the first place. And don't forget global warming and climate change destruction that Western imperialist countries have created with their imperialist theft and misuse of the world's natural resources.

http://revcom.us/a/v...-39/936/imf.htm

"World Bank and IMF: Banking on Misery"

http://tv.globalresearch.ca/2011/04/imf-and-world-bank-create-poverty

"IMF and World Bank Create Poverty"

http://www.globalres...xt=va&aid=25725

Quote- While "external" climatic variables play a role in triggering off a famine and heightening the social impact of drought, famines in the age of globalization are man-made. They are not the consequence of a scarcity of food but of a structure of global oversupply which undermines food security and destroys national food agriculture. Tightly regulated and controlled by international agri-business, this oversupply is ultimately conducive to the stagnation of both production and consumption of essential food staples and the impoverishment of farmers throughout the world. Moreover, in the era of globalization, the IMF-World Bank structural adjustment program bears a direct relationship to the process of famine formation because it systematically undermines all categories of economic activity, whether urban or rural, which do not directly serve the interests of the global market system.

(for footnotes see Chapter in the Globalization of Poverty)"

end quote.

I also recommend these good reads for attempting to educate an idiotic imperialist like you to reality:

http://revcom.us/a/0...tem-poverty.htm

http://revcom.us/a/1208/aids-bush.htm

http://www.finalcall...aves_1597.shtml

and before you attempt to knock this last link see: http://en.wikipedia....ilis_experiment

Tuskegee syphilis experiment done by racist white Amerikkkans

http://en.wikipedia....ilis_experiment

Guatemalan syphilis experiment done by racist, imperialist white Amerikkkans

Among countless other racist, murderous, thieving imperialist Amerikkkan crimes that have been uncovered (think of all those that have not been uncovered).

Gee, what difference does it make.

USA is spending the money. Who cares where they get the food from. I am sure a starving Somalian doesn't care less. They just want to be fed!

If you are in need of food, why should you care if it comes from Iran, Africa, or even the Moon! Is this what people suffering has come down to for your eyes? Is everything about Politics?

If America wants to help out impoverished countries while at the same time helping its agricultural business internally, who are you to whine? I am sure a malnourished Somalia kid could care less.

Plus there is a drought and famine in the region, so what is the point of trying to find food "locally" to help these people?

It is just proof that your allegations are fruitless and only trying to serve your ideals. Shame on you.

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Your an idiot, "your wealth" you mean that which you got from stolen African slave labor (white "Christian" run Trans Atlantic slave trade killed up to 150 million Africans) and also your alleged "wealth" also "built" (again by African slaves) on the land of indigenous Mongoloid Native Americans you white European evil colonialist invaders stole; and then you committed one of the largest genocides in human history killing at least 100 million Native Americans.

0195085574.jpg

As for "Islamists", I assume your trying to talk about say the monarchy of Saudi Arabia which is a puppet monarchy of the US imperialist regime.

Hob_hos.jpg

And even the Saudis are far more generous then imperialist Amerikkka (and note well again that imperialist Amerikkka just uses tied "aid" to make big profits for fatcat Amerikkkan mega corporations and then calls this, along with military aid to Zionist "Israel" and all other forms of imperialism, alleged "help" and "aid")

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/43792-un-report-saudi-arabia-lead-humanitarian-donor-us-lags-behind.html

EXTRA: Saudi Arabia lead humanitarian donor, US lags behind : World

Quote- Geneva - Saudi Arabia was the largest international donor to humanitarian appeals, when measured as a percentage of the national economy, the United Nations reported Tuesday. The Saudi kingdom gave 0.19 per cent of its gross domestic product (GDP) to humanitarian funding.

Sweden, which gave 0.14 per cent of its national product and Norway with 0.13, followed in the list of top donor countries.

Many small European countries, with large and generally affluent populations, were also part of the lead countries by GDP. Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates were also large proportional donors.

The United States came in 19th on the list, having donated 0.02 per cent of GDP in 2008, ahead of Tonga.

The figures were released on the same day the UN announced its humanitarian appeals for 2009 are short 4.8 billion dollars six months into the year.

end quote.

Also on another Muslim country (I'm assuming you'd claim is allegedly "Islamist") the UAE (aka United Arab Emirates); note how the UAE gives actual, real untied aid (that is not just a backdoor subsidy for mega corporations like in the case of imperialist Amerikkkan tied "aid" and big US agribusiness, etc)

http://www.zawya.com...A20100913035234

"UAE largest global aid donor in gross income terms"

Quote- "Arab donors - predominantly Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE -have been among the most generous in the world, with official development assistance (ODA) averaging 1.5 per cent of their combined GNI during the period 1973-2008, more than twice the United Nations target of 0.7 per cent and five times the average of the OECD countries," the 40-page study said.

...

"Moreover, Arab aid is generally untied, and is offered without conditions or restrictions. Over time, Arab donors have expanded their reach-beyond Arab and predominantly Muslim countries in terms of recipient countries and beyond infrastructure in terms of sectors.

Their assistance has come to play a major role in total ODA flows to several developing countries," the report said.

The study noted that at present, the Arab official financial assistance covers a wide range of nations, especially poor countries in sub-Saharan Africa such as Mali, Mauritania, Senegal, Somalia, and Sudan; and in Asia such as Cambodia, Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, and Vietnam.

end quote.

Then as for the Islamic Republic of Iran; Iran has given tons of different forms of humanitarian aid all over the world; and note that Iran does this despite being under threats by Western imperialists and Iran is already living under Amerikkkan, Western, and Zionist imperialist economic (and other) sanctions (for nearly the last 30 years).

http://edition.press...ail/116527.html

Iran aid to Haiti;a nation which US and Zionist imperialism made poor via slavery and imperialism http://dissidentvoic...haiti-billions/

http://www.presstv.i...ail/169343.html

Iran aid to Japan

http://www.presstv.i...ail/176938.html

Japan thanks Iran (again Iran does all this while still under crushing imperialist Amerikkkan sanctions) for Iran's aid to Japan after the recent earthquake in Japan

Just some of Iran's aid in Somalia:

http://www.presstv.i...ail/191119.html

http://www.presstv.i...ail/191716.html

That Iran is so brave and kind to be able to send humanitarian aid around the world, despite being under the boot of imperialist Western/Zionist sanctions, is amazing and shows how blessed and kind the Islamic Republic of Iran truly is.

Also why does the imperialist Amerikkkan regime spend so much on military imperialism (can anyone say military-industrial complex, as Eisenhower mentioned)!

http://costofwar.com/en/

http://www.google.co...zkuECkRJvsAlNkA

Murderous Amerikkkan imperialist occupation and slaughter of Afghanistan, and the Afghani people, costs the US $300 million a day

http://www.boston.co...arly_2b_a_week/

From back in 2006, imperialist Amerikkkan military spending $2 billion a week in the slaughter and occupation of Iraq and the Iraqi people

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Your an idiot, "your wealth" you mean that which you got from stolen African slave labor (white "Christian" run Trans Atlantic slave trade killed up to 150 million Africans) and also your alleged "wealth" also "built" (again by African slaves) on the land of indigenous Mongoloid Native Americans you white European evil colonialist invaders stole; and then you committed one of the largest genocides in human history killing at least 100 million Native Americans.

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As for "Islamists", I assume your trying to talk about say the monarchy of Saudi Arabia which is a puppet monarchy of the US imperialist regime.

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And even the Saudis are far more generous then imperialist Amerikkka (and note well again that imperialist Amerikkka just uses tied "aid" to make big profits for fatcat Amerikkkan mega corporations and then calls this, along with military aid to Zionist "Israel" and all other forms of imperialism, alleged "help" and "aid")

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/43792-un-report-saudi-arabia-lead-humanitarian-donor-us-lags-behind.html

EXTRA: Saudi Arabia lead humanitarian donor, US lags behind : World

Quote- Geneva - Saudi Arabia was the largest international donor to humanitarian appeals, when measured as a percentage of the national economy, the United Nations reported Tuesday. The Saudi kingdom gave 0.19 per cent of its gross domestic product (GDP) to humanitarian funding.

Sweden, which gave 0.14 per cent of its national product and Norway with 0.13, followed in the list of top donor countries.

Many small European countries, with large and generally affluent populations, were also part of the lead countries by GDP. Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates were also large proportional donors.

The United States came in 19th on the list, having donated 0.02 per cent of GDP in 2008, ahead of Tonga.

The figures were released on the same day the UN announced its humanitarian appeals for 2009 are short 4.8 billion dollars six months into the year.

end quote.

Also on another Muslim country (I'm assuming you'd claim is allegedly "Islamist") the UAE (aka United Arab Emirates); note how the UAE gives actual, real untied aid (that is not just a backdoor subsidy for mega corporations like in the case of imperialist Amerikkkan tied "aid" and big US agribusiness, etc)

http://www.zawya.com...A20100913035234

"UAE largest global aid donor in gross income terms"

Quote- "Arab donors - predominantly Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE -have been among the most generous in the world, with official development assistance (ODA) averaging 1.5 per cent of their combined GNI during the period 1973-2008, more than twice the United Nations target of 0.7 per cent and five times the average of the OECD countries," the 40-page study said.

...

"Moreover, Arab aid is generally untied, and is offered without conditions or restrictions. Over time, Arab donors have expanded their reach-beyond Arab and predominantly Muslim countries in terms of recipient countries and beyond infrastructure in terms of sectors.

Their assistance has come to play a major role in total ODA flows to several developing countries," the report said.

The study noted that at present, the Arab official financial assistance covers a wide range of nations, especially poor countries in sub-Saharan Africa such as Mali, Mauritania, Senegal, Somalia, and Sudan; and in Asia such as Cambodia, Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, and Vietnam.

end quote.

Then as for the Islamic Republic of Iran; Iran has given tons of different forms of humanitarian aid all over the world; and note that Iran does this despite being under threats by Western imperialists and Iran is already living under Amerikkkan, Western, and Zionist imperialist economic (and other) sanctions (for nearly the last 30 years).

http://edition.press...ail/116527.html

Iran aid to Haiti;a nation which US and Zionist imperialism made poor via slavery and imperialism http://dissidentvoic...haiti-billions/

http://www.presstv.i...ail/169343.html

Iran aid to Japan

http://www.presstv.i...ail/176938.html

Japan thanks Iran (again Iran does all this while still under crushing imperialist Amerikkkan sanctions) for Iran's aid to Japan after the recent earthquake in Japan

Just some of Iran's aid in Somalia:

http://www.presstv.i...ail/191119.html

http://www.presstv.i...ail/191716.html

That Iran is so brave and kind to be able to send humanitarian aid around the world, despite being under the boot of imperialist Western/Zionist sanctions, is amazing and shows how blessed and kind the Islamic Republic of Iran truly is.

Also why does the imperialist Amerikkkan regime spend so much on military imperialism (can anyone say military-industrial complex, as Eisenhower mentioned)!

http://costofwar.com/en/

http://www.google.co...zkuECkRJvsAlNkA

Murderous Amerikkkan imperialist occupation and slaughter of Afghanistan, and the Afghani people, costs the US $300 million a day

http://www.boston.co...arly_2b_a_week/

From back in 2006, imperialist Amerikkkan military spending $2 billion a week in the slaughter and occupation of Iraq and the Iraqi people

blackwater.png

Lets try to contain this into an arguable approach. You are trying to find a reason why Americans should not help starving poeople from death because of hundreds of years of history. Is that really rational? You are using this to your Political and Ideological advantage. I have seen from your posts that you are a very biased and closed minded person. Ia this what you want your Life to be summed up to?

Surely there is more to Basra than just hate and intolerance. Am I correct?

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