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salam,

i just wanted to hear you opinions and thoughts, on the likelihood of the US dollar falling in the next 2 years perhaps?? the new debt deadlock and the quick vote etc... leads me to assume that we may well be witnessing the start of the fall of the dollar.

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dollar is already falling. Get ready for a worldwide financial crisis, and Muslims to be exterminated in Europe.

it seems that way, latest news, italy and spain in more financial crises than theyve ever previously been in, greece has already been bailed, looks like the power shift is going to go to israel soon? views on that?

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salam,

i just wanted to hear you opinions and thoughts, on the likelihood of the US dollar falling in the next 2 years perhaps?? the new debt deadlock and the quick vote etc... leads me to assume that we may well be witnessing the start of the fall of the dollar.

(bismillah)

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If current information (things in the news, things speculated by analysts or other people in the know, etc.) suggests that some currency, security, or derivative will rise or fall in value in the future, the (unless we're talking about very short-term changes, such as seconds) current price of that asset will already reflect that information. That is, the best guess regarding the future expected price of any asset is its current price. This isn't always true, but in efficient markets, there should not be arbitrage opportunities, so it often is. Basically, I'm saying there's no way to know whether the dollar will rise or fall in 2 years time. Sometimes you can say which is more likely, but that would probably imply something like "it's more likely to fall, and if it falls it will fall by a little bit, but if it rises, it will rise by a lot," which still gives you net zero expectation. If someone makes these predictions, even if they turn out to be right, there's really no way to know if their analysis was correct, or if it was just a coincidence.

See: http://en.wikipedia....walk_hypothesis

Of course, not everyone agrees with this and some leading researchers believe the market is predictable, but even then that predictability involves some very sophisticated and detailed analysis.

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wasalam.gif

If current information (things in the news, things speculated by analysts or other people in the know, etc.) suggests that some currency, security, or derivative will rise or fall in value in the future, the (unless we're talking about very short-term changes, such as seconds) current price of that asset will already reflect that information. That is, the best guess regarding the future expected price of any asset is its current price. This isn't always true, but in efficient markets, there should not be arbitrage opportunities, so it often is. Basically, I'm saying there's no way to know whether the dollar will rise or fall in 2 years time. Sometimes you can say which is more likely, but that would probably imply something like "it's more likely to fall, and if it falls it will fall by a little bit, but if it rises, it will rise by a lot," which still gives you net zero expectation. If someone makes these predictions, even if they turn out to be right, there's really no way to know if their analysis was correct, or if it was just a coincidence.

See: http://en.wikipedia....walk_hypothesis

Of course, not everyone agrees with this and some leading researchers believe the market is predictable, but even then that predictability involves some very sophisticated and detailed analysis.

yeeh i see what your getting at, i should of phrased it slightly better haha, i meant in the regards, if you believe it or not on, as kamran.. delicately put it the illuminati lol, i personally believe there will be this shift of power from america to israel, as a mark and the signs of the rise of the dajjal, some predict, that the us dollar is destined to purposely collapse in wake of a new world currency, or better phrased new world order, i meant on that aspect , but thankyou :)

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ILLUMINATI

bro i swear down since 2 years ago since I heard the dollar will collapse cos of illuminati I told baaare ppl dey all thought im mad loooool

but yh i reckon ILLUMINATI is gonna make the dollar collapse by the end of 2012 .. but i dunno ..

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DOW losses closing in on 400 points, chart has already breached the 200 MA at 12000.

11550 right now

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bro i swear down since 2 years ago since I heard the dollar will collapse cos of illuminati I told baaare ppl dey all thought im mad loooool

but yh i reckon ILLUMINATI is gonna make the dollar collapse by the end of 2012 .. but i dunno ..

if you told me about 2 years ago, the US dollar, the most recognised currency on the planet, would be brought down on purpose, cus of some club -.- , id probs have backhanded you down at the thought lol! buh now is like on the verge of happenin! :wacko:

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DOW losses closing in on 400 points, chart has already breached the 200 MA at 12000.

11550 right now

in english please brother ;) ? lol i do take business, accounting etc... buh no idea on the stock points! :lol:

(bismillah)

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realistically, the value of the dollar may drop a bit (or go up a bit). However the value of the US dollar isnt really wholly based in just the US economy. Of course the US has many economic partners and allies with mutual benefits that will affect the dollars value. If the US dollar did ever drop significantly in value, I would guess that it would take several decades and it would occur gradually. Nothing noticeably significant is going to occur in 2 years. Maybe 50 years, but not 2.

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realistically, the value of the dollar may drop a bit (or go up a bit). However the value of the US dollar isnt really wholly based in just the US economy. Of course the US has many economic partners and allies with mutual benefits that will affect the dollars value. If the US dollar did ever drop significantly in value, I would guess that it would take several decades and it would occur gradually. Nothing noticeably significant is going to occur in 2 years. Maybe 50 years, but not 2.

unless it was a joint effort to bring down the global markets and currencies to pave way to a new electronic currency? the news at the moment is slightly worrying... all major markets suffering big losses

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if you told me about 2 years ago, the US dollar, the most recognised currency on the planet, would be brought down on purpose, cus of some club -.- , id probs have backhanded you down at the thought lol! buh now is like on the verge of happenin! wacko.gif

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in english please brother wink.gif ? lol i do take business, accounting etc... buh no idea on the stock points! laugh.gif

(bismillah)

looooooool like ur cousin mohsin i used 2 be bare into illuminati .. hes still into it though im not as much looool

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unless it was a joint effort to bring down the global markets and currencies to pave way to a new electronic currency? the news at the moment is slightly worrying... all major markets suffering big losses

Um...that sounds like some weird youtube video conspiracy theory concept. I doubt such a thing would happen.

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Um...that sounds like some weird youtube video conspiracy theory concept. I doubt such a thing would happen.

nah is possible, look at the news man! somethings happening, i do believe that is still that illuminati movement happening, the american government wouldnt make all this public without a reason would they? is like there telling the people who it concerns withdraw their money or summin i dno tbh!

looooooool like ur cousin mohsin i used 2 be bare into illuminati .. hes still into it though im not as much looool

loooool mohsin takes it to some nex levels, other day hes tryna tell me that they have queens of darknesses? lol and an example of one is madonna, and then when the queen dies they cut their heads of and keep them? hes a strange one....

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Seems like a hogwash, attention garnering strategy. Next thing you know the U.S. is involved in the biggest arms deal which gets them millions of $ to pump liquid cash into the economy and jumpstart it like they always do.

On the other hand, if Ben Bernanke is as smart as they make him out to be this could mean an entirely new set of Economic Standards which will rule the American Economy from a Spending to a Saving economy, lesser debt and eventually a stronger economy (not necessarily a stronger USD) :)

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nah is possible, look at the news man! somethings happening, i do believe that is still that illuminati movement happening, the american government wouldnt make all this public without a reason would they? is like there telling the people who it concerns withdraw their money or summin i dno tbh!

I think you may have been watching too many youtube videos. The Govt is making it public because its...easily some of the most important news in relation to its affects on the world. If you look into the actual details behind it, you will find that there is a very rational explanation, no need to invoke conspiracy shadow organizations.

People always talk about these mysterious free masons as well. In reality i know a few free masons personally, and there isnt anything mysterious or evil or shady about them. People just let their imaginations go wild because they have nothing better to do than contemplate an apocalypse in which they wont see.

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What I find interesting, in relation to our beliefs as Muslims, is the cold hard fact (no conspiracy) about the extent to which China holds American debt. I also note the fact of how irritated the Chinese are becoming about American actions and how willing they have become to voice their opinions about this.

This is the first time I have seen the Chinese voice such open criticism of another country. Either the Americans take the pain by controlling their deficit or debt holders like the Chinese will.

I am not saying that this explains Islamic injunctions against debt and lending, but I can see this as one more data point in showing how bad lending and debt can be. I also note that this shows how debt can either be unjust against the lender or the borrower. Depending on prevailing circumstances its difficult to predict which way the injustice will run.

There are Muslims on these boards who argue that we have become more sophisticated than the days of early Islam and that we can do away with these old-time injunctions against borrowing (amongst other rules).

I think there are various human traits that will be with us forever e.g. fear, greed, and hubris. And that these injunctions are as important today as they were when they were first promulgated.

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I think you may have been watching too many youtube videos. The Govt is making it public because its...easily some of the most important news in relation to its affects on the world. If you look into the actual details behind it, you will find that there is a very rational explanation, no need to invoke conspiracy shadow organizations.

People always talk about these mysterious free masons as well. In reality i know a few free masons personally, and there isnt anything mysterious or evil or shady about them. People just let their imaginations go wild because they have nothing better to do than contemplate an apocalypse in which they wont see.

if one was a killer, he would want to hide that fact and publicly look innocent, your naive, i know for a fact that masons, are just another name for the knights templade, who started to practice black magic, after finding the sources buried by prophet solomon. how duo explain the arrivals documentory then? judging you would say that its 100% rubbish? open your eyes my friend.

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bro i swear down since 2 years ago since I heard the dollar will collapse cos of illuminati I told baaare ppl dey all thought im mad loooool

but yh i reckon ILLUMINATI is gonna make the dollar collapse by the end of 2012 .. but i dunno ..

ILLUMINATI will kill the dollar! then whos left with all the money/power? the jews! ISREAL! the Dajjal is shifting its headquarters to isreal soon people!

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ILLUMINATI will kill the dollar! then whos left with all the money/power? the jews! ISREAL! the Dajjal is shifting its headquarters to isreal soon people!

look at that other guys post....

People always talk about these mysterious free masons as well. In reality i know a few free masons personally, and there isnt anything mysterious or evil or shady about them. People just let their imaginations go wild because they have nothing better to do than contemplate an apocalypse in which they wont see.

LOL

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if one was a killer, he would want to hide that fact and publicly look innocent, your naive, i know for a fact that masons, are just another name for the knights templade, who started to practice black magic, after finding the sources buried by prophet solomon. how duo explain the arrivals documentory then? judging you would say that its 100% rubbish? open your eyes my friend.

Well, considering the fact that i personally know free masons, and actually i may as well be related to some, i will tell you that they arent some mysterious crusading organization.

What people need to understand is, the west is...well, over the past centuries it has excelled technologically, scientifically, among other ways. People here in the US,, we dont really believe in things like "black magic" (atleast not educated people), we dont believe in underground religious groups bent on destroying muslims.

Its only in eastern countries that these strange concepts are proposed. Zionist world dominating bankers and shadow organizations and freemasons bent on destroying muslims.

We may as well be reading fairy tales out of childrens books.

I mean really, do you really believe in black magic? Do you really think there are underground organizations ruling the world that want to destroy Islam?

The reality is, most people and i mean this in the nicest way...most people really dont spend much time even thinking about Islam. Let alone would we be apart of some sort of wild conspiracy to destroy them.

Then you asked me "how do you explain the arrivals documentary", and i would rebuke by asking you "why in the world do you dictate the truth off of a conspiracy youtube video?

There is a reason you can get a formal education in political science, even if you arent a political scientist, you can take courses and learn about these things, and you wont have to rely on youtube videos for your world view. If a youtube video told you that demons controlled president obama and that he was the antichrist, would you believe that too?

Its time to get with the times people, lets be realistic here and quit believing in magic sandwiches.

There are real, rational explanations for these things for those who take a bit more than 10 minutes to learn about them. And if you would like to discuss the arrivals, then make a topic on it, and ill comment.

ILLUMINATI will kill the dollar! then whos left with all the money/power? the jews! ISREAL! the Dajjal is shifting its headquarters to isreal soon people!

Lets actually take a look at this. SD is predicting the collapse of the dollar by 2012, and this guy Mohsin is saying that Isreal s going to take over the world or something.

Now, how many years shall we await this to occur? 1 year? 5 years? 25 years?

People have been making these same conspiracy claims for decades now, and nothing has ever become of them. Theyre baseless claims without any application. Why would anyone believe in something without applicable evidence? It doesnt make any sense. Granted, i know you guys believe in angels transforming into stones (the black stone of the Kaaba) and things like this, but you know, be rational people.

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Well, considering the fact that i personally know free masons, and actually i may as well be related to some, i will tell you that they arent some mysterious crusading organization.

once again like i said the first time, they wouldnt openly claim to be masonic satan worshipping idiots would they?

What people need to understand is, the west is...well, over the past centuries it has excelled technologically, scientifically, among other ways. People here in the US,, we dont really believe in things like "black magic" (atleast not educated people), we dont believe in underground religious groups bent on destroying muslims.

you dont have to be educated to have faith. black magic is as real as it gets, no YOU do not believe in such groups, their primary aim is muslims, but also to enslave mankind, and once again theyve been attempting that for centuries, why do such big figures keep referring to a new world order? i.e. george bush senior? why are they digging around al aqsa mosque? why is there symbols of masonry and the one eye every where? who brought down the twin towers? lemme guess, alqaeda? lol.

Its only in eastern countries that these strange concepts are proposed. Zionist world dominating bankers and shadow organizations and freemasons bent on destroying muslims.

once again, wrong. these concepts are believe by people across the globe. and surely no one can deny that bankers and americas most powerfull lobby are israely?

We may as well be reading fairy tales out of childrens books.

I mean really, do you really believe in black magic? Do you really think there are underground organizations ruling the world that want to destroy Islam?

yes i do.

The reality is, most people and i mean this in the nicest way...most people really dont spend much time even thinking about Islam. Let alone would we be apart of some sort of wild conspiracy to destroy them.

And once again, YOUR reality is that, let me guess your a believer of darwins evolution theory?? im assuming you dont believe in god? then how do you differentiate between good and bad? who is america to dictate law and invade other countries? and last time i checked, iraq, afghanistan, and probably iran next, theyre all muslim countries :) what a suprise.

Then you asked me "how do you explain the arrivals documentary", and i would rebuke by asking you "why in the world do you dictate the truth off of a conspiracy youtube video?

youtube video? that millions have opened their eyes from.

There is a reason you can get a formal education in political science, even if you arent a political scientist, you can take courses and learn about these things, and you wont have to rely on youtube videos for your world view. If a youtube video told you that demons controlled president obama and that he was the antichrist, would you believe that too?

if Obama told you he believe in peace would you believe him? oh i forgot hes already waged war in office. my world view is formed through my religion and personal experiance, yours is formed by being arrogant and being fed by the system.

Its time to get with the times people, lets be realistic here and quit believing in magic sandwiches. And realisticaly, if i saw a nation invading others, and signs of a one eyed system evry were, id end up being where i am now, oh thas right i am here? open your eyes.

There are real, rational explanations for these things for those who take a bit more than 10 minutes to learn about them. And if you would like to discuss the arrivals, then make a topic on it, and ill comment. ok, the one eye symbolism... les start on that, you say theres a ration explanation for everything, yes there is, doesnt mean that what you believe in is the right answer. once again showing signs of arrogance.

the replys are under your writing, sorry i wrote it out wrong.

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the replys are under your writing, sorry i wrote it out wrong.

believing in black magic isnt about faith. Theres, and im not directing this at you, but people often in these situations refer to the difference between "faith" and "stupidity". Again, thats not directed at you at all.

When people have faith, and we all do in some way or another, we apply faith to ration things that have arguably strong supportive evidence for them.

"Black magic" doesnt really have evidence. Yes you may find a handfull of loonies who think they can throw pixie dust in the air and summon demons, but realistically speaking, theyre just mislead people without any form of education in regards to the reality of their pixie dust.

So you cant say that its simply faith. People have faith in God, however we have knowledge that the sun will rise in the morning. People have faith in God, through arguably objecting intuitive concepts. While with black magic, we lack knowledge and objective intuitive concepts.

"why do such big figures keep referring to a new world order? i.e. george bush senior? why are they digging around al aqsa mosque? why is there symbols of masonry and the one eye every where? ."

Well, the washington monument was designed by robert mills, an american."The broadest context for Mills' architecture was neoclassical architecture. This was the dominant style of building that was winning architectural design competitions and major projects of the time, both in Europe and in America. Under the umbrella of neoclassicism, his designs were partly Palladian, Georgian and often Greek Revival."

"Apart from stylistic movements in architecture going on in the world at his time, Robert Mills was involved in the more local context of building in the Mid-Atlantic States. There, and especially in Washington D.C., were many figures contributing architecture of high quality. To build as Mills did on what is now the National Mall, he had to contend with the planning strictures of Pierre Charles L'Enfant, as well as Andrew and Joseph Ellicott. Being an architect of the now Baltimore-Washington Metropolitan Area he was also undoubtedly influenced by Thomas Jefferson and Jeffersonian architecture. Mills, with Jefferson and others, was able to create a distinctive federal style of architecture."

sounds pretty american to me

No big figures speak about "new world order" in the sense that you see it. New world order, in bush's era, is a world without communist expansion. If anything its for the freedom of people, which is why NATO has issues with Iran right now. Irans Khomenia was backed by the communist soviet union.

If you want to talk about enslaving people, ask yourself why countries in which the people are 100% rules by their governments, were allied with Iran. Again, if you want to make this a topic go ahead and we can talk more about it.

Why are they digging under al aqsa? because theyre crazy jews with a lot of money. The Isreal-Palestine conflict is being fought by Isreal and the palestinians. Everyone else, atleast western nations, are fighting for economic and political reasons, and arent concerned about destroying islam.

Trust me, if the world and Nato wanted to destroy Palestine, theyd just drop their infinite supply of bombs on it. But everyone, even western countries knows it would be inhumane, and even though it may appear like the west is against the palestinian people, its really not. Theyre just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and the crazy jews want a piece of the pie.

"bankers and americas most powerfull lobby are israely? "

The power isnt really in the Lobby itself, for example, AIPAC just harnesses the votes of fundamental jews and christians who have a high proportioned voting value. Honestly, and im willing to bet that, a decade or 2 from now, Isreal wont be as influential. They dont control anything out here except money, and if they cause too many troubles for the world to a point they cant buy themselves out of it, then they will get thrown to the side. And all the fundamental christians are being wiped out in this country anyway (because they believe in silly things like black magic :P).

"ho brought down the twin towers? lemme guess, alqaeda? lol."

well, considering the fact that they have a long history of bombings against the west (including previous bombings of the world trade center), yes i would say its very likely that they have yet again attacked the west.

Again, same goes for the arrivals youtube series, if you want to debate the reality of black magic, make a topic, i will be there.

"And once again, YOUR reality is that, let me guess your a believer of darwins evolution theory?? im assuming you dont believe in god? "

Im a scientist, and i along with the other 99% of natural scientists do accept evolutionary theory. And yes i do believe in God along with most other scientists who accept evolution. Now let me guess, you dont have a formal education in biological sciences? and you dont have a formal education in politics? alright then, moving on.

"who is america to dictate law and invade other countries? and last time i checked, iraq, afghanistan, and probably iran next, theyre all muslim countries"

Who is Saddam to invade kuwait and saudi arabia (economic allies of the US). Who is afghanistan to allow to terrorists to live in their country? (an impoverished nation already beat up the communists a decade ago), hey look, i wonder why the US defends saudi arabia, and kuwait, and current Iraq, and indonesia, theyre all countries packed full of muslims, dont you think thats odd?

alright, i think im done here. Its amazing how you speak for your religion, you lead me to believe that all shia believe in the things that you do.

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Ofcourse it is about faith, if you believe in a religion, and that religion tells you on an aspect, it is your duty to believe that, otherwise you are weak in faith, just like you believe in the darwins theory, you cannot, only believe in some aspects of it, ie. Pick and choose as you believe in the whole concept.

And there are many stories of black magic, millions of experiences of it, and documentation even in America, and through the internet, whether you believe in it or not is another story, if you don’t believe the sources, it can directly mean you think that “uneducated” peoples voices are unworthy or unbelieveable, yet you assumes that you are more intelligent than them, remember my friend education is only from opportunity.

I never mentioned anything about summoning demons now did i? You seem to know accusations against the masonry in detail… and as for the rest of that point, same as the aboves response. You refer to looneys as people from most often poor environments, not looneys, humble yourself. Once again education is a gift only gifted to a few, people in Africa may have some on more intelligent than Einstein amongst them, as the world is corrupt, he isn’t allowed opportunity to be given an education, therefore will never be recognised, so please do not refer to them as looneys.

God tells us the concept, in the 3 religions of the book, that is where the knowledge is from, and sayings from that era. This is the wests misconception of those countries, that is what you are told, where as the US almost is in a state of becoming under the reign of martial law? What freedom do you have? You are told stories, you have no rights for the truth. your dollar bill has the biggest symbolism, i could talk all day about it, 9/11, the dates of events, they speak for them selves.

Wrong, the fight is against any one who opposes them,which tends to be good muslim nations, and those who fight for truth,if it was for economic reasons why are they in iraq may I ask? For oil ofcourse, obtaining it ilegaly and other resources, just as Africa was sucked dry previously in history, they crush opposition, that can be seen daily.

This is by far your most foolish point, no offence, whats inhumane that there in so condemnation against the occupation, what is humane that western nations spent billions on war and not on helping fight world poverty, what is humane is that drone attacks kill civilians daily in Pakistan, what is inhumane is America is funding the Israelis who cause atrocities, that is inhumane. The Palestinian people are not in the wrong places at the wrong time. It is silly in your eyes. The lobbys have great power over many aspects, lets be real.

And what about the huge evidence of the Americans themselves funding these organisations? Let me guess that’s not reliable? Americans are the greatest terrorists of this century.

Well believing in god and accepting darwins theory of evolution is probably the most contradictory statement of the century. No I don’t have those qualifications, firstly as im 18, and secondly a man with an education in the study of hip hop, could say that he knows more than you in hip hop, just because he was taught a theory, that does not prove intelligence, as a natural scientist you agree and disagree in theorys.

Who is America to fund saddams war on iran? Who is America to brand them as terrorists, when they are occupying a foreign land?, who is America to brand any one as a terrorist when they assassinate, drone, bomb civilians and people daily? No its not odd, they are betrayers to the faith of islam, they support what America supports, and are deemed as terrorists themselves, Saudi is guilty of many fundings of the killings of shia muslims across the world, who is Saudi to go into Bahrain and slaughter shia muslims there?

And no I do not represent shia muslim in my answers, I am a shia muslim with my own views of the world, just as you do not represent the slightest of an intelligent man.

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First off, please use proper quotation :P, youre making it more challanging to respond than it needs to be.

Ofcourse it is about faith, if you believe in a religion, and that religion tells you on an aspect, it is your duty to believe that, otherwise you are weak in faith, just like you believe in the darwins theory, you cannot, only believe in some aspects of it, ie. Pick and choose as you believe in the whole concept.

In darwins theory, concepts are not subjective. That is the difference.

God tells us the concept, in the 3 religions of the book, that is where the knowledge is from, and sayings from that era. This is the wests misconception of those countries, that is what you are told, where as the US almost is in a state of becoming under the reign of martial law? What freedom do you have? You are told stories, you have no rights for the truth. your dollar bill has the biggest symbolism, i could talk all day about it, 9/11, the dates of events, they speak for them selves.

Wrong, the fight is against any one who opposes them,which tends to be good muslim nations, and those who fight for truth,if it was for economic reasons why are they in iraq may I ask? For oil ofcourse

i dont even know what this is in response to because you didnt quote me :P. To quote people, you can just copy and paste the "quote name" iin brackets and paste it above where you would like to quote me, and then copy and paste the end quote in brackets at the end of my statement.

Youre asking why the US is in Iraq? because Saddam was a threat to the west. He endangered US allies and was a rutheless and murdering dictator in regards to all opposition to he, including the US. And perhaps you did not know this, but the US has not gotten any oil out of Iraq. The oil field purchases are recorded, and they come from private industries from around the world. China benefitted more from Iraq in regards to oil, so did Iran and indonesia. So no, it wasnt about oil.

This is by far your most foolish point, no offence, whats inhumane that there in so condemnation against the occupation, what is humane that western nations spent billions on war and not on helping fight world poverty, what is humane is that drone attacks kill civilians daily in Pakistan, what is inhumane is America is funding the Israelis who cause atrocities, that is inhumane. The Palestinian people are not in the wrong places at the wrong time.

If you want to condemn this "occupation", then perhaps you should condemn the Iraqi govt themselves. They currently are performing the bulk of operations now that the US has dropped its combat troops. What you need to understand is that Iraq has many different demographics that fight for different reasons, many indeed want to destroy the Iraqi govt itself as well. There is no "good and bad", there are just subjective arguments for each side. The pakistani govt has also accidentally killed its own people using drones, it happens, its war. And as for Isreal, For decades, the US has attempted to work on solutions between the two sides, but in reality, the US is not Isreal and the US cant control Isreal no more than it can control Palestinians. You asking why the US supports Isreal is like asking why the US supports Saudi while it sends tanks to defeat the bahrain uprisings, its like asking why the US supports china, even during events of tiananman square. The US doesnt control these countries, it simply does business with them just as it does business with just about every other country on the planet.

Well believing in god and accepting darwins theory of evolution is probably the most contradictory statement of the century. No I don’t have those qualifications, firstly as im 18, and secondly a man with an education in the study of hip hop, could say that he knows more than you in hip hop, just because he was taught a theory, that does not prove intelligence, as a natural scientist you agree and disagree in theorys.

Well ok, think about it like this. If you are well versed with hiphop, you would not want to here some classical music fan to come up to you and to say that hip hop is garbage. A because the kid doesnt know anything about hip hop and B, the person is insulting that which he isnt familiar with. And you should practice quoting so i know what youre responding to.

About the actual statement though, it is not contradictory to believe in evolution and God. In fact most scientists do. About 99% of natural scientists accept evolution whereas, last ive checked ~ 60-70% believe in God.

Who is America to fund saddams war on iran? Who is America to brand them as terrorists, when they are occupying a foreign land?, who is America to brand any one as a terrorist when they assassinate, drone, bomb civilians and people daily? No its not odd, they are betrayers to the faith of islam, they support what America supports, and are deemed as terrorists themselves, Saudi is guilty of many fundings of the killings of shia muslims across the world, who is Saudi to go into Bahrain and slaughter shia muslims there?

Who is Iran to make an alliance with communist/expansionist soviets and to not expect to become involved in the cold war? who is khomenei to order the imprisonment without trial of US troops in Iran? The Iranian govt threatened to behead the Americans there. So what do you think America is going to do? Sit back and sip tea with them? Who is Al Queeda to go around blowing up building killing innocent people? they sound like terrorists to most sane people. People die in wars unintentionally, terrorists like al queeda, make it their job to directly hit the innocent. In fact, more casualties in Iraq post war, came from senseless suicide bombings. If you have a problem with Saudi, take it up with them.

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