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Salamu 3alaykon

I was just wondering if a lady has done mut3a with a man for the time period of 6 months (she is going to permanently marry him), and during that time she decides to put the hijab on, is mut3a then considered haram ?

Also, is mut3a haram in general for somebody who does wears the scarf?

Thankyou so much for any answers and help.

Salamu 3alaykom

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(bismillah)

(wasalam)

Are you asking if Mutah is haraam for a person who wears the hijab?

Absolutely not. Mutah is hallal for women who wear the hijab of course. It is a way for young, and older, people to control their desires without the need of fornication. Allah, the Most Gracious most Merciful, knows that after puberty both boys and girls will begin to have desires which must be met at some time. It wouldn't be fair for non-hijab women to be able to satisfy the desire while hijab women must continue with the struggle. Now for many hijab women, staying a virgin until permanent marriage is very important to them thus some have limits on how mutah marriage can go so that they still remain "pure" after the mutah if they decide they do not want to go permanent with the male companion.

What is haraam is someone who doesn't wear the hijab though. That's the haraam being done.

Heres a lecture by Sayed Ammar on mutah marriage: link.

Allah Knows Best.

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  • Advanced Member
Posted

Salam,

Thankyou for your help and advice,

Also, if mut3a results in the (hijabi) woman falling pregnant

is that considered haram ?

Thankyou again

(bismillah)

(wasalam)

Are you asking if Mutah is haraam for a person who wears the hijab?

Absolutely not. Mutah is hallal for women who wear the hijab of course. It is a way for young, and older, people to control their desires without the need of fornication. Allah, the Most Gracious most Merciful, knows that after puberty both boys and girls will begin to have desires which must be met at some time. It wouldn't be fair for non-hijab women to be able to satisfy the desire while hijab women must continue with the struggle. Now for many hijab women, staying a virgin until permanent marriage is very important to them thus some have limits on how mutah marriage can go so that they still remain "pure" after the mutah if they decide they do not want to go permanent with the male companion.

What is haraam is someone who doesn't wear the hijab though. That's the haraam being done.

Heres a lecture by Sayed Ammar on mutah marriage: link.

Allah Knows Best.

  • Veteran Member
Posted

(bismillah)

Salam,

Thankyou for your help and advice,

Also, if mut3a results in the (hijabi) woman falling pregnant

is that considered haram ?

Thankyou again

(wasalam)

No, the child is of legitimate birth and it is Halal because it is the result of a shar`i marriage. The child is the father's son/daughter and his responsibility to take care of if the marriage terminates and they do not pursue permanent marriage. There's no differences in the rulings like these in regards to mut`ah for a hijabi or non-hijabi.

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Posted

Salam,

Thankyou for your help and advice,

Also, if mut3a results in the (hijabi) woman falling pregnant

is that considered haram ?

Thankyou again

If the mutah was done according to Islamic Law and everything was done correctly, a pregnancy derived from the marriage is not haraam and the child is not illegitimate because the father was married to the mother at the time of the sexual act. I guess this can be seen as a father in war who passes away right before the birth of his child, doesn't mean its haraam for the wife. What anyone would recommend is make that mutah a permanent marriage for the sake of the child and the family. If the two love each other to create another human being, they surely love each other to be responsible and take care of that human being together.

Remember Mutah IS A MARRIAGE in Islam. It offers everything a permanent marriage offers but in a limited or set amount of time.

Allah Knows Best.

  • Advanced Member
Posted

muta'a is NOT related to hijab or pregnancy.. it's a REAL marriage BUT with a set time.. if the girl gets preg during it (weather she's a hijabi or not) the guy would still HAVE to take care of his child and pay the expenses

  • Advanced Member
Posted

no offence but no hijab girl should do muta. its very indecent and i believe its only for those who can not control the desires. not recommeded at all.

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no offence but no hijab girl should do muta. its very indecent and i believe its only for those who can not control the desires.

[ 26391 ] 4 ـ قال : وقال أبو جعفر ( عليه السلام ) : إن النبي ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) لما أسري به إلى السماء قال : لحقني جبرئيل ( عليه السلام ) فقال : يا محمد ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) ، إنّ الله تبارك وتعالى يقول : اني قد غفرت للمتمتعين من أمتك من النساء .

4 – And Abu Ja`far عليه السلام said: Verily when the Prophet صلى الله عليه وآله did the night journey to Heaven, he said: Jibra’il عليه السلام reached me and said: O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وآله, verily Allah تبارك وتعالى says: Verily I have forgiven the doers of mut`a of the women from your Umma.

not recommeded at all.

Quite the contrary.

[ 26388 ] 1 ـ محمد بن علي بن الحسين بإسناده عن بكر بن محمد ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : سألته عن المتعة ؟ فقال : اني لاكره للرجل المسلم أن يخرج من الدنيا وقد بقيت عليه خلة من خلال رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) لم يقضها .

1 – Muhammad b. `Ali b. a-Husayn by his isnad from Bakr b. Muhammad from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: I asked him about mut`a. So he said: Verily I dislike that the Muslim man should leave the world and there remains upon him a habit from the habits of the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله which he has not carried out.

[ 26390 ] 3 ـ وبإسناده عن صالح بن عقبة ، عن أبيه ، عن أبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) قال : قلت : للمتمتع ثواب ؟ قال : ان كان يريد بذلك وجه الله تعالى وخلافا على من أنكرها لم يكلمها كلمة إلا كتب الله له بها حسنة ، ولم يمد يده إليها إلا كتب الله له حسنة ، فإذا دنا منها غفر الله له بذلك ذنبا ، فاذا اغتسل غفر الله له بقدر ما مر من الماء على شعره ، قلت : بعدد الشعر ؟ قال : بعدد الشعر .

3 – And by his isnad from Salih b. `Uqba from his father from Abu Ja`far عليه السلام. He said: I said: Is there reward for the one who does mut`a? He said: If he had intended by that the countenance of Allah تعالى and opposition against the one who denied it, he does not speak a word but that Allah has written ten good deeds for him by it, and he does not extend his hand to it but that Allah has written ten good deeds for him. So when he has approached it, Allah has forgiven him a sin by that, and when he has done ghusl, Allah has forgiven him by the measure of what has passed of water upon his hair. I said: By the number of hairs? He said: By the number of hairs.

[ 26397 ] 10 ـ محمد بن محمد بن النعمان المفيد في ( رسالة المتعة ) : عن جعفر بن محمد بن قولويه ، عن سعد بن عبدالله ، عن أحمد بن محمد بن عيسى ، عن هشام بن سالم ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) قال : يستحب للرجل أن يتزوج المتعة وما أحب للرجل منكم أن يخرج من الدنيا حتى يتزوج المتعة ولو مرة .

10 – Muhammad b. Muhammad b. an-Nu`man in Risalat al-Mut`a from Ja`far b. Muhammad b. Qulawayh from Sa`d b. `Abdullah from Ahmad b. Muhammad b. `Isa from Hisham b. Salim from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام. He said: It is recommended for the man to marry in mut`a, and I do not love that the man from you should leave the world until he marries in mut`a even once.

And more: http://www.*******.org/hadiths/marriage/muta/desirability-of-muta

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If you think about Mutah, in a logical sense. People are going to perform mutah for what reasons? If they truly love a person, then they in most cases would have a nikah marriage. And they would hope that it lasts forever. So for what reason would your average person want a temporary marriage? In most cases, it would presumably be for sexual reasons.

If its for sexual purposes, then its essentially dating. Would everyone agree with that? I know many couples, they know their relationship is temporary. They often will live together or become financial partners, help eachother through things just like any marriage, but simply without a piece of paper that says it is nikah.

Is it fair to say, that with the exception of a ceremony and a paper stating it, that mutah is like dating?

With that said, i agree with the person who spoke before, based on this, it does sound as though its just people who cannot control their desires. After all, in most cases, if a couple chooses mutah, instead of nikah, its likely for reasons of not truly loving and wanting nikah with the other. Or perhaps the people are unsure and would lke to test the waters of relationships, or perhaps they cannot wait longer to find a women for nikah.

what does everyone think about these questions?

  • Veteran Member
Posted

(bismillah)

If you think about Mutah, in a logical sense. People are going to perform mutah for what reasons? If they truly love a person, then they in most cases would have a nikah marriage. And they would hope that it lasts forever. So for what reason would your average person want a temporary marriage? In most cases, it would presumably be for sexual reasons.

If its for sexual purposes, then its essentially dating. Would everyone agree with that? I know many couples, they know their relationship is temporary. They often will live together or become financial partners, help eachother through things just like any marriage, but simply without a piece of paper that says it is nikah.

Is it fair to say, that with the exception of a ceremony and a paper stating it, that mutah is like dating?

With that said, i agree with the person who spoke before, based on this, it does sound as though its just people who cannot control their desires. After all, in most cases, if a couple chooses mutah, instead of nikah, its likely for reasons of not truly loving and wanting nikah with the other. Or perhaps the people are unsure and would lke to test the waters of relationships, or perhaps they cannot wait longer to find a women for nikah.

what does everyone think about these questions?

If it is just for sexual release, then that's fine. But that's not the only reason and in all cases, permanent marriage is not viable. I know many couples in college who do not have the means to leave their families and live together but really want to get married. To make sure nothing haram between them occurs betweens now and then, they have a mut`ah. This also eases hijab burdens with in laws. The husband in mut`ah doesn't have the responsibility of the wife's upkeep and what not and the wife doesn't have such rules attached to her either in mut`ah. Testing compatibility of a relationship is a pretty common use I hear of for mut`ah.

Sex isn't bad and nor should it be looked down upon when its in a marriage. And marriage shouldn't be naively looked at purely for "love" purposes. Honestly, most Muslims I know who get married are really just getting married cause its that time of their life and they should get married - not that they have found a girl and love her and all that fantasy jazz. Marriage first - the love and companionship comes within it.

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  • Advanced Member
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no offence but no hijab girl should do muta. its very indecent and i believe its only for those who can not control the desires. not recommeded at all.

But I suppose non-hijabis should, because they're dirty and they deserve it?

  • Advanced Member
Posted

no offence but no hijab girl should do muta. its very indecent and i believe its only for those who can not control the desires. not recommeded at all.

i am not proud to say this but im a non hijabi and i would never do mutah. i dont think it is not fair to judge someone or think less of another person beacuse they choose not to wear a hijab. non hijabis can be decent too :)

  • Advanced Member
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If you think about Mutah, in a logical sense. People are going to perform mutah for what reasons? If they truly love a person, then they in most cases would have a nikah marriage. And they would hope that it lasts forever. So for what reason would your average person want a temporary marriage? In most cases, it would presumably be for sexual reasons.

If its for sexual purposes, then its essentially dating. Would everyone agree with that? I know many couples, they know their relationship is temporary. They often will live together or become financial partners, help eachother through things just like any marriage, but simply without a piece of paper that says it is nikah.

Is it fair to say, that with the exception of a ceremony and a paper stating it, that mutah is like dating?

With that said, i agree with the person who spoke before, based on this, it does sound as though its just people who cannot control their desires. After all, in most cases, if a couple chooses mutah, instead of nikah, its likely for reasons of not truly loving and wanting nikah with the other. Or perhaps the people are unsure and would lke to test the waters of relationships, or perhaps they cannot wait longer to find a women for nikah.

what does everyone think about these questions?

That is interesting, although, some couples may not be financially ready for permanent marriage considering these days some families will not allow a man who is still studying/not earning enough money yet to financially support their daughter.

In other words, i think that two people who love each other could do Mut3a not only for sexual reason but as well as wanting to be halal on each other.

no offence but no hijab girl should do muta. its very indecent and i believe its only for those who can not control the desires. not recommeded at all.

why is it indecent if mut3a is part of what we believe in Islam ?

a hijabi could have desires just like a non hijab could, at the end of the day we are all humans.

  • Advanced Member
Posted

Salamu 3alaykon

I was just wondering if a lady has done mut3a with a man for the time period of 6 months (she is going to permanently marry him), and during that time she decides to put the hijab on, is mut3a then considered haram ?

Also, is mut3a haram in general for somebody who does wears the scarf?

Thankyou so much for any answers and help.

Salamu 3alaykom

Muta is only haraam with married women. if she is a virgin and a dependant on her father, then the male has to ask the father of the girl's permission.

Muta is a beautiful thing. its a type of marriage and you become mehram to him.

no offence but no hijab girl should do muta. its very indecent and i believe its only for those who can not control the desires. not recommeded at all.

Your very much wrong here. Please don't give your own personal opinions in sharya matters. Your not a Mujtahid nor a Marja nor the Wilayet-e-Faqih ..

be extra careful in your personal opinions. Your not a scholar of Islam. little knowledge is dangerous as well. Muta is a mercy to Mankind (to all human race). it was Umar ibn Khattab who forbid Muta. We do not follow him .. We follow Imam Ali (S) who was left behind by the Prophet in charge of Islamic matters and the state as his successor and authority.

Muta is a blessing from Allah. Its a type of Marriage. its very good for young people who want to get to know each other before marriage, the widows, and dovorce's. In Muta conditions are accepted, negotiated, spousal support can be negotiated etc. for example, if a girl does not want to have sexual intercourse in Muta and get to know without sexual intercourse.. its accepted.

Zanadine.

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  • Advanced Member
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no offence but no hijab girl should do muta. its very indecent and i believe its only for those who can not control the desires. not recommeded at all.

There are so many faults in this quote.

Firstly, dear sister, and I say this out of all the respect that I carry....you cannot say something like Mut3a is not recommended just because you

personally don't see it suitable. Our scholars spend most of their lives researching into such matters and I am sure the permissibility of Mut3a that they

hold strongly to is based on undeniable evidence from the Sunnah and history.

Secondly, I personally find that today, hijab is more often a tool of culture than religion. A lot of sisters who wear the hijab don't respect it at all. Just the other day i saw a young sister with hijab on, cruising around the main road of my area with music as load as can be and in the beginning of the Holy Month of Ramadhan. I have met many decent non-hijabi Muslimah and many indecent Hijabi Muslimahs.

Wearing the hijab isn't necessarily a true reflection of the decency of the person wearing it.

Salam.

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Hijab or no hijab... Mutah is one of the blessings from the infinite blessings of Allah. It has saved countless Muslims and Muslimat from committing haram. Wonder why Shia are so faithful to Allah, RasoolAllah (sawaw) and holy Ahlulbait(as), because they are mostly practicing nikah and mutah (both halal Sunna marriages) and have children born out of halal relationships.

Contrarily among other sects of Islam, zina, adultery and fornication is wayyyy more common than we could even imagine hence they have loads and loads of kids born without halal marriage. Hence you see a whole flock of Sunni/wahabis hating RasoolAllah (sawaw) and his Ahlulbait(as) which by itself is a proof that those haters of prophethood are the illegitimate kids...

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A correction to an oft stated but incorrect notion. It is not true that having no relationship whatsoever is "controlling desires" while having a mutah is not controlling desires. Control does not necessarily mean smothering or blocking something completely. Letting something flow through a legitimized channel is also a means of control.

Engaging in a committed, albeit temporary relationship is also a method of controlling desires.

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Mutah is absolutely ridiculous. Marriage is not a game. Its for two people who are ready to marry emotionally, physically, financially, and spirtually. If you dont have the money to marry, then your not ready to marry. This mutah sounds for people who just want to have the sex but not carry the responsibility of a husband and wife. Its just an excuse to engage in sexual conduct. No different from dating. Theres nothing wrong with getting to know your intended through halal courting with a proper chaperone. Temporary marriage is a joke, and can end in hurt feelings. What if either the man or woman falls in love? What if children are born? Easy solution, You either marry or you don't, PERIOD!!!

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Mutah is absolutely ridiculous. Marriage is not a game. Its for two people who are ready to marry emotionally, physically, financially, and spirtually. If you dont have the money to marry, then your not ready to marry. This mutah sounds for people who just want to have the sex but not carry the responsibility of a husband and wife. Its just an excuse to engage in sexual conduct. No different from dating. Theres nothing wrong with getting to know your intended through halal courting with a proper chaperone. Temporary marriage is a joke, and can end in hurt feelings. What if either the man or woman falls in love? What if children are born? Easy solution, You either marry or you don't, PERIOD!!!

We have had so many people like you in the Mut'ah section, and incessantly explained again and again on such misconceptions, the likes of yours. Go check out other threads in the Mut'ah section to see where you go wrong.

There is a mutual agreement on both sides that they wish to proceed with the temporary marriage, and the conditions of the marriage are stipulated by both parties. Temporary marriage is just like permanent marriage, only a specific time period is fixated. Taking all this into account, how can anyone end up with 'hurt feelings'?

Why do you begin with the presupposition that sex is a bad thing? It's certainly not, if performed through a legitimate means such as temporary marriage. Many adolescents don't have the capacity or means to engage in a permanent marriage, so a temporary marriage is the only viable solution to satisfy their desires legitimately. Mut'ah isn't only for satisfying your desires legitimately, it can be used as a test to see whether your prospective partner could potentially be long-term material, after gaining enough experience with him/her.

Hope this clarifies your deviated notions.

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no offence but no hijab girl should do muta. its very indecent and i believe its only for those who can not control the desires. not recommeded at all.

Wow. Why would you even say that.

If you think about Mutah, in a logical sense. People are going to perform mutah for what reasons? If they truly love a person, then they in most cases would have a nikah marriage. And they would hope that it lasts forever. So for what reason would your average person want a temporary marriage? In most cases, it would presumably be for sexual reasons.

I personally did mutah for over two years, because I was under 18 and no one will permanently marry two people in the States if they are under 18 years old. (I'm permanently married to the same guy now). I'm guessing there are more cases similar to this, but most people are not willing to talk about it. Us both being converts to Islam, we were used to Western style dating we were very happy to find out about mutah marriage.

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