Can We Wear Tight Jeans With A Coat On Top

[RUBY786110]

PEOPLE SAY IT IS GUNA AND PEOPLE SAY IT ISN'T I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO? PLEASE REPLY (bismillah) :D

[Nasiba]

ahmm my mom dont approval it most of time :P but sometimes i do it :) lol like long dressy top with skinny jeans

ha its MOST of the time..lol

Edited May 22, 2011 by Nasiba

[-Enlightened]

(salam)

A hijab has to cover all your body and your forms can't show.

[Calm]

No, tight jeans are not what is considered fit for hijab . I'm assuming you're talking about skinny pants? If yes, whether you wear a coat on top or not it is skin tight and shapes your legs regardless of how loose the tunic is and so it is not hijabi.

The words tight and hijab-approriate don't really go together.

[Naz_]

The words tight and hijab-approriate don't really go together.

+1000 :rolleyes:

[rajaa]

+1000 :rolleyes:

you are only making it harder for the other muslim women who try to dress according to the faith....it confuses others when they see on hijabi in tight clothes and then a scarf on their head, and then the other lady in abaya......

hijab is not showing your body....tight jeans means showing off your legs.

personally i think its sad that its come to our women dressing this way, Im not saying you have to wear abaya but at least wear lose fit clothing, shukr has some beautiful stuff.....

[Naz_]

you are only making it harder for the other muslim women who try to dress according to the faith....it confuses others when they see on hijabi in tight clothes and then a scarf on their head, and then the other lady in abaya......

hijab is not showing your body....tight jeans means showing off your legs.

personally i think its sad that its come to our women dressing this way, Im not saying you have to wear abaya but at least wear lose fit clothing, shukr has some beautiful stuff.....

Salam,

Harder? How so?

I don't understand.. what point are you trying to get across? :unsure:

[Calm]

Salam,

Harder? How so?

I don't understand.. what point are you trying to get across? :unsure:

^^She quoted you to second your post as for her reply it was directed to the OP.

[Naz_]

Ohhhh, my bad!

Sorry.

[rajaa]

I guess I should hve elaborted more....firstly wearing tight jeans is haram anyways, but what I was trying to say it that it is coming to the point (at least where I live) that muslim women are starting to beleive that dressing in tight clothes and covering their hair is called hijab. This is wrong. And the women who do dress islamically, are getting looks even by other Muslims!!!

Im not saying that every Muslim women has to wear abaya, not at all, im just saying to dress according to our beleifs, which is loose fit clothing that doesnt show the form of ones body. It breaks my heart when i see sisters on the street, and I can see every curve of their body and they have hijab on.

[-Enlightened]

It breaks my heart when i see sisters on the street, and I can see every curve of their body and they have hijab on.

not to mention that they are representing their faith ..and giving a bad image on Islam .

[Comprehending]

(salam)

Hmm.. I'm not in any way passing an opinion on what is considered hijab or saying what is wrong/right.

However, I do think that we're all being so negative. For a lot of people, hijab is an easy thing, people wear it with pride and don't have problems going out without it. It is natural. But for a lot of other people, wearing the hijab and facing challenges they may face is hard. It is a challenge. It's a huge test and huge problem. But if their hijab isn't perfect, they're looked down upon and they're shouted at and told off. What? Why? We're all saying "they're giving a bad image" and "they might as well not wear it".. hold up, what justifies that? What gives us the right to judge people with imperfect hijab? Why aren't we applauding the fact that they are trying to wear hijab? Won't this encourage them to better their hijab?

Furthermore, a lot of the time people say "if they're only wearing cloth on their head, but they've got make-up on and heels and tight fit clothes, they might as well take that cloth off!". No. They might not as well. That is the most ridiculous thing to say. If someone has taken a sip of alcohol, should they finish the whole bottle? No. It's pathetic to say that and very demeaning.

Another point, hijab is not limited to it's physical aspect. All of you going out with your abayas and your black loose clothes.. how perfect is your social hijab? I see people in head abayas and the way they laugh and act, and how rude they are.. sometimes that's even more "embarrassing" than someone with imperfect hijab.

Plus, hijab is just one requirement in Islam. You can't put someone down for having imperfect hijab if you have imperfect akhlaaq.

Stop with the negativity, start with the encouragement. We're all a bunch of hypocrites if we start putting those people down, cause none of us here are infallible.

(wasalam)

[rajaa]

I agree with you hijab is a very hard thing, and I am one of those people that had a difficult journey with it, mostly with my parents as they are catholic, and as much as i explain the practise and ideology and traditions behind it they still do not support me in my journey. I congradulate those who wear hijab and support the faith, but at the same time there is a limit....I also had to deal with my own ego on the issue of hijab and it took me a long time to come where I am...it caused a lot of arguements between me and my husband, me and my parents, and a lot of tears.....If I could help one person not have to go through what I did just on the issue of hijab it would be amazing. If she has not worn tight pants before, why get into the habit??

I agree with you that hijab is more then a physical aspect.....and who is suggesting that she takes her hijab off? No one said that in these posts....

Encourgament is a must between all muslims in all aspects of the faith, in fact we are encouraging her NOT to wear tight jeans, which is not good hijab....

I post my own comments to remind myself, dont get me wrong I agree with what you say, but reccomending someone to wear tight clothes is not really helping them.

wsalam

[Comprehending]

(salam)

In no way did I recommend wearing tight clothes, what I was trying to say is don't put someone down or judge someone if they do.

My post was general, I was not referring to anyone or specific posts.

(wasalam)

[Legendary]

Wear proper clothes that is loose enough not to show off your figure. Too wide or too tight is not nice...average.

[SisterM]

(salam)

Hmm.. I'm not in any way passing an opinion on what is considered hijab or saying what is wrong/right.

However, I do think that we're all being so negative. For a lot of people, hijab is an easy thing, people wear it with pride and don't have problems going out without it. It is natural. But for a lot of other people, wearing the hijab and facing challenges they may face is hard. It is a challenge. It's a huge test and huge problem. But if their hijab isn't perfect, they're looked down upon and they're shouted at and told off. What? Why? We're all saying "they're giving a bad image" and "they might as well not wear it".. hold up, what justifies that? What gives us the right to judge people with imperfect hijab? Why aren't we applauding the fact that they are trying to wear hijab? Won't this encourage them to better their hijab?

Furthermore, a lot of the time people say "if they're only wearing cloth on their head, but they've got make-up on and heels and tight fit clothes, they might as well take that cloth off!". No. They might not as well. That is the most ridiculous thing to say. If someone has taken a sip of alcohol, should they finish the whole bottle? No. It's pathetic to say that and very demeaning.

Another point, hijab is not limited to it's physical aspect. All of you going out with your abayas and your black loose clothes.. how perfect is your social hijab? I see people in head abayas and the way they laugh and act, and how rude they are.. sometimes that's even more "embarrassing" than someone with imperfect hijab.

Plus, hijab is just one requirement in Islam. You can't put someone down for having imperfect hijab if you have imperfect akhlaaq.

Stop with the negativity, start with the encouragement. We're all a bunch of hypocrites if we start putting those people down, cause none of us here are infallible.

(wasalam)

Hang on a second.... being MUSLIM in a non-muslim country is a tough task on its own, but that doesnt mean that muslim women have to wear western type clothing to try to fit in!!! When Allah(swt) commands you to wear hijab then we should do just that, and that also means to represent your religion in the right manner ,which means wearing hijab right! Whether it be physically or mentally!! But physically everyone can see so thats what islam will be judged on most. When you wear hijab you must educate urself why u are wearing it,its not just about covering up like you said. But its the first thing people see!

I agree 100% that lots of women that wear hijab right are embarrassing and they are not representing the religion right, but thats not an excuse to go wear hijab and skin tight clothing, no ones perfect but most women these days are trying to fit in no matter what the cost is and thats whats making us look bad.

At the end of the day all Women in hijab are representing islam and no one is perfect but if you let a few things slide here and there and use "its hard" as an excuse then obviously they are wearing hijab for the wrong reasons!

[mouradf]

I use to do it all the time :/ It depends on the person i guess...

[-SeeKeR-]

(salam)

In no way did I recommend wearing tight clothes, what I was trying to say is don't put someone down or judge someone if they do.

My post was general, I was not referring to anyone or specific posts.

(wasalam)

(wasalam)

I agree with you to a certain level but the problem is that such hijabis make the life of others difficult. People already make life hell for hijabis and when they see such people, they start a comparison. Its like look at her she wears makeup, why do you have to be barefaced on a wedding, or look she dresses that way, why do you have to wear scarf such that most of your face gets hidden.

Its wrong of us to judge people, but cuz of such girls, people start judging other hijabis. No uniformity is left, and it becomes hard to explain.

Edited September 16, 2011 by -SeeKeR-

[obedient-servant]

(wasalam)

I agree with you to a certain level but the problem is that such hijabis make the life of others difficult. People already make life hell for hijabis and when they see such people, they start a comparison. Its like look at her she wears makeup, why do you have to be barefaced on a wedding, or look she dresses that way, why do you have to wear scarf such that most of your face gets hidden.

Its wrong of us to judge people, but cuz of such girls, people start judging other hijabis. No uniformity is left, and it becomes hard to explain.

Asalam Alaikom

I apologize in advance if I have somehow misunderstood what u were trying to say, but its sounded like you are against no-make and against Hijab that hides the face also (niqab)...... for the want of uniformity? Why do we want to put makeup when in public? Because we want to look attractive? for whom? someone other than our husbands? We dont want to hide our faces because? Can our facial beauty lead some men to look at us longer than what is deemed halal (refer narration of Imam Ali a.s. and another by Prophet Mohammad PBUH that says first glance by namehram man on namehram woman is accidental and is okay, but second is haram)? are we not told to hide our faces if there is danger of sin? What is stopping us from hiding our faces if it can prevent sin? why do we want to show?

Eltamas e Dua

[-SeeKeR-]

(wasalam)

:blink:

I meant females who do a proper hijab, not niqab, as in cover chin, ears properly and don't wear make up are criticized more when people see females who apparently do hijab but carelessly. It confuses people to see so many variation, that's why its important to at least follow the minimum standards of hijab as laid out by the religion. I hope you understand now.

[obedient-servant]

From the perspective of our jurisprudential scholars, it is emphasized that under some conditions, covering the face and hands is deemed obligatory or is strongly advised to be observed as an extra precaution. For example, in ruling #449 as cited in A Code of Practice for Muslims in the West, Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Sistani states: "A woman is allowed to keep her face and hands uncovered in the presence of a non-mahram man, provided that she does not fear of getting into a haram act, that the exposure of her face and hand does not cause men to gaze at her in a forbidden way, and that it does not give rise to immorality in general." So, if a woman is noticeably wearing makeup, it is obligatory upon her to cover her face in some way or another. Other scholars of the past, such as Ayatollah Sayyid Abul-Qasim al-Khoei and Ayatollah Muhammad Ridha Gulpaygani, ruled that it is Ehtiyat-e-Wajib for a woman to cover her face in front of un-related men at all times. (A Code of Ethics for Muslim Men and Women)

Let us better understand this concept with respect to the Sunnah of the Prophet and his Ahlul Bayt (peace be upon them all) so that we draw a clear picture of where and how Niqab stands in Islam. We can reflect upon the following examples:

It is narrated that one day, one of the wives of the Prophet, Umm al-Mu'minin Safiyya bint Huyay ibn Akhtab went to visit him, and when she got up to leave, the Prophet stood up to walk her back home. On the way home, the Prophet passed by two men from the Ansaar who saw him and started hastening in their walk. So the Prophet called out to them, "Take it easy, she is Safiyyah!" From this incident, it is clear that his wife Safiyyah had her face covered when she was walking outside with the Prophet such that the people could not identify her. So, he identified the woman accompanying him to be his wife so that the minds of the weak do not entertain any devilish thought or doubt his chastity.

When Lady Zainab (peace be upon her) was present in the court of Yazid, what did she say to him? History records that she said: "Is it the custom of justice, oh accursed son of the 'Released persons', that you keep your ladies and concubines behind the veils (with respect) and at the same time you captivate and parade the helpless daughters of the Messenger of Allah as prisoners?! You snatched their veils and exposed their faces, and displayed them from one land to another, being viewed by those at watering places as well as those who guard your forts, with their faces exposed to the looks of everyone, near or distinct, low or elite, having none of their men with them nor any of their protectors?!"

From her statement, it is clear that the faces of the women of the household of the Prophet were usually not exposed in the streets such that Lady Zainab is now reprimanding Yazid for having their faces displayed leading to their violation due to staring of the strangers.

When Lady Zainab entered the court of Ibn Ziyad along with the caravan of captives, Ibn Ziyad spotted her among the captives. Historical narrations describe Lady Zainab by saying that "she was seated while disguised". So Ibn Ziyad asked, "Who is that lady who is seated?" They informed him that she is Zainab. We get an impression from this incident that perhaps the custom during that time was that women would cover their faces when they were outside in public, but when they entered a court or an indoor setting or a comfort zone, they would show their faces to identify themselves. Since Lady Zainab kept herself disguised in the court, Ibn Ziyad saw that act as something out of the ordinary as he wasn't able to identify her.

History records that Lady Zainab used to be escorted by the male members of her household to protect her honor and dignity whenever she walked outside. We can imagine that with this level of protectiveness over her chastity, Lady Zainab must have had her face covered when she went outside. This thought is confirmed when we hear someone narrating that, before the tragic events of Karbala when the caravan of female captives had their veils snatched away, he testifies that he never saw what Lady Zainab looked like except after her Hijab was confiscated! This only indicates that whenever Lady Zainab left her house, she veiled herself completely such that very few knew her physical features. It is extremely sad and to know that this same Lady Zainab who had her honor well-protected by the male members of her household, was taken as a captive with her Hijab confiscated in the streets of Shaam! May God remove His mercy from those who violated the honor of the women of the Prophet's Household!

Asalam Alaikom

I think we should all want to be following the life-style of the ladies of Ahlul Bayt and just ask ourselves before we do anything, would Lady Fatima Zahra a.s. and Lady Zainab a.s. be proud of us for doing what we are doing? The history and narrations about the lives of bibi Fatima and bibi Zainab are the same for all readers so its not possible for 2 shia sisters to come to different conclusions when reading all this. The above excerpt from http://islamicinsights.com/religion/religion/understanding-niqab-in-islam.html talks about some of those narrations and also the ruling from Ayt. Sayyid Sistani. We will find the answer to how and what sort of hijab we should observe if we truly was to submit ourselves to Allah.

Eltamas e Dua

[Dua_Fatima786]

i think people just make a big deal out of everythingg if a guy had to look at a girl they would rather look at someone without the hijab ten a girl with one therefore, people shouldnt be judging girlsthat wear tight clothes with a hijab that much.

[ForeverMM]

Lol absolutely as long as the "coat" is a long Abaya that is loose fitting ;) that was my answer to my younger sister the other day when she said she would come to Jummah with me...I really hate this new trend.

[AusRevert]

I have a further question: if one was to be wearing Skinny jeans, how long should the coat ideally be, and how much of her legs should be shown without any shape? I've seen many variations and would just like to find out as I'm only new to Islam. Is it permissable to have the shape of the calves from say, the knee down showing? Or ankles only? Or not at all?

[DeeeeeBo]

as long as a girls bossom and breasts are not showing, in a tight manner then its fine !!!

dont worry about extremes from both ends

wearing super tight jeans and a tight top but with a scarf is stupid

and wearing a curtain is just as stupid

find a balance !!! one is wrong, but it doesnt mean the other option is the only way, not everyone is ready for that, some people have different levels of deen, so give them credit for trying

[Light of Ali]

Plus, hijab is just one requirement in Islam. You can't put someone down for having imperfect hijab if you have imperfect akhlaaq.

Stop with the negativity, start with the encouragement. We're all a bunch of hypocrites if we start putting those people down, cause none of us here are infallible.

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