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(bismillah)

Holy drinking water contaminated with arsenic is being sold illegally to Muslims by UK shops, the BBC has found.Zam Zam water is taken from a well in Mecca and is considered sacred to Muslims, but samples from the source suggested it held dangerous chemicals.

Tourists can bring back small amounts from Saudi Arabia, but it cannot be exported for commercial use.

An undercover researcher found large quantities of bottles being sold in east and south London, and in Luton.

The president of the Association of Public Analysts said he would "certainly would not recommend" drinking it.

'Poisonous' drink A BBC investigation discovered Zam Zam water was being sold by Muslim bookshops in Wandsworth, south-west London, and Upton Park, east London, as well as in Luton, Bedfordshire.

"The water is poisonous, particularly because of the high levels of arsenic, which is a carcinogen," said Dr Duncan Campbell, president of the Association of Public Analysts.

"The limits set in drinking water are set there for very good reason.

"Once the water gets above that limit, it's not safe."

Secret recordings captured the vendors describing customers who drank it daily.

"They depend on it, they don't drink anything else," said the owner of an Islamic bookshop in Upton Park.

Last year the Food Standards Agency said people "should consider avoiding" the drink in the UK, which it said came from dubious sources.

'Sensitive matter'

The BBC asked a pilgrim to take samples from taps which were linked to the Zam Zam well and to buy bottles on sale in Mecca, to compare the water on sale illegally with the genuine source.

These showed high levels of nitrate and potentially harmful bacteria, and traces of arsenic at three times the permitted maximum level, just like the illegal water which was purchased in the UK.

Dr Yunes Ramadan Teinaz, an environmental health officer who has previously warned about Zam Zam water, said it was "a sensitive matter".

"People see this water as a holy water," he added.

"They find it difficult to accept that it is contaminated but the authorities in Saudi Arabia or in the UK must take action," he said.

None of the three shops involved would say why they were selling the water or how they obtained it, but further investigation suggested it had now been removed from their shelves.

The Saudi embassy in London declined to comment on the issue of contamination at the source in Mecca.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13267205

  • Veteran Member
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Everything is contaminated for the west...they should rather watch their non-halal (pig) food rather than Zam-Zam .

Furthermore , Zam-Zam can not be contaminated if million of people have already drank from it and never felt sick ..

And without counting the number of miracles this water made..

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Everything is contaminated for the west...they should rather watch their non-halal (pig) food rather than Zam-Zam .

Furthermore , Zam-Zam can not be contaminated if million of people have already drank from it and never felt sick ..

And without counting the number of miracles this water made..

denial isn't just a river in egypt it seems.

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Zam Zam water is gathered from a well in Mecca but there is a ban on exporting it from Saudi Arabia (Source BBC Article posted above)

ZAM ZAM MAFIA in the United Kingdom ?? sheesh !!!

  • 4 months later...
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A good article (albeit from Wahhabis, but they refute the false claims and lies of the kuffar propagandist enemies of Islam) refuting the lying claims of the kuffar BBC propagandist fools: http://forums.islami...cca-sold-45640/

Quote- I was told Saudi doesn't allow zam zam to be sold so people sell fake zam zam.

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They went from saying that fake zamzam water which is contaminated is being sold in the UK to saying that the actual source is contaminated.

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Theres actually scientific tests that say Zam zam is very good for you.

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http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/1698 "Virtues and characteristics of the water of Zamzam"

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Moreover, the remarks of the European laboratories showed that the water (Zam Zam water) was fit for drinking.

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Its potability has always been universally recognised as pilgrims from all over the world visit Ka'ba every year for Hajj and Umrah, but have never complained about it. Instead, they have always enjoyed the water that refreshes them.

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The lying Western, Zionist owned, "mainstream" propaganda media are notorious kuffar and extreme enemies of the Deen of al-Islam. Nothing the Western kuffar papers say about Islam can be trusted, as Allah(SWT) himself tells us Muslims in Holy Qur'an Surah 49:6

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِنْ جَاءَكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَإٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا أَنْ تُصِيبُوا قَوْمًا بِجَهَالَةٍ فَتُصْبِحُوا عَلَىٰ مَا فَعَلْتُمْ نَادِمِينَ {6}

[Shakir 49:6] O you who believe! if an evil-doer comes to you with a report, look carefully into it, lest you harm a people in ignorance, then be sorry for what you have done.

end quote.

The Western propaganda Zionist owned media are liars and the Muslims have refuted them. There is no evidence for the false claims the lying imperialist "BBC" made in their article. For one the BBC absurdly tried to leap from discussion of fake (NOTE: FAKE) water that some dishonest people were apparently trying to pass off as allegedly Zam Zam water (that is the water in question being sold in the UK was not even Zam Zam water and thus not from the actual Holy source in Mekkah in the first place!) to then trying to claim the very source of pure, healthy real Zam Zam water itself in Mekkah was allegedly somehow "in question" (as for its health quality) which is untrue and absurd to claim. Again millions upon millions of pilgrims travel for Hajj and Umrah every year to Mekkah, Arabia (from all over the world) and there has been no record of people getting sick from the Zam Zam water at all! In actuality Zam Zam water both used in Mekkah itself and brought back by pilgrims to their homelands has been documented to have performed life saving and health giving miracles that cured previously sick people!

The Saudi Arabian government authorities do not allow the sale of Zam Zam water abroad so the only legitimate way real Zam Zam water from Mekkah would arrive in another country (other than Saudi Arabia) would be from pilgrims bring it back with them when they traveled home from Hajj or Umrah. This is exactly what is done.

So in closing if there was actually any health issue at all in the UK as the highly questionable BBC story (which I doubt) claims it was not actual Zam Zam water, it was from dishonest people trying to sell/falsely pass off local non-Zam Zam water (likely local English tap water lol!) as allegedly being the real thing from the pure, healthy, Holy source in Mekkah, Arabia. Actual, real Zam Zam water from the Holy source in Mekkah, Arabia is completely healthy and does miracles, Alhamdulillah!

The only lesson to be learned from this is that we Muslims have to be very careful not to get ripped off by dishonest people who apparently unfortunately tried to make a quick buck by preying on people's faith and selling fake water that was not actually real Zam Zam water at all.

Edited by Basra
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Also a link: http://arabnews.com/...ce?comments=all "Kingdom rejects BBC claim of Zamzam water contamination"

(Photo at the link)

In this file photo, Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah leads the inauguration of the King Abdullah Zamzam Watering Project in Makkah on Sept. 3, 2010. The project was designed to guarantee the provision and pureness of the water of Zamzam, a well located within the Masjid al-Haram mosque in Makkah.

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By BADEA ABU AL-NAJA | ARAB NEWS

Published: May 7, 2011 23:34 Updated: May 11, 2011 22:24

JEDDAH: Saudi authorities have refuted a BBC report claiming that the Zamzam well in Makkah is polluted and that drinking the holy water could cause diseases such as cancer.

Zuhair Nawab, president of Saudi Geological Survey (SGS), denied the allegation and said his organization has taken adequate measures to ensure the safety of Zamzam well and its water.

The BBC said it had asked a pilgrim to take samples from the Zamzam water taps in Makkah and the Zamzam water being sold in bottles to compare them with the water on sale illegally.

“These showed high levels of nitrate and potentially harmful bacteria, and traces of arsenic three times the permitted level, just like the illegal water, which was purchased in the UK,” the BBC said, referring to contaminated holy water sold in some UK shops.

Nawab said his organization has been responsible for monitoring the quality of Zamzam water, which not only concerns Saudi Arabia but the whole Islamic world. “Our experts monitor the condition of Zamzam on a daily basis. Every day we take three samples from the water to carry out tests and studies, which showed that it was not contaminated,” he explained. He said the newly established King Abdullah Zamzam Water Distribution Center in Makkah is equipped with advanced facilities and where bottling takes place in accordance with international standards.

“We apply modern methods for filling bottles after sterilization,” Nawab said.

He said the contamination of the water could have caused while redistributing the water in small bottles by individuals.

Fahd Turkistani, adviser to the Presidency for Meteorology and Environment, said the BBC report focused on bottled water supplied by individuals and not by the Presidency of the Two Holy Mosques Affairs. The water supplied by the presidency undergoes close monitoring and ultraviolet rays are applied to kill harmful bacteria, he added.

Turkistani said the Zamzam water contamination could have caused by illegal workers who sell Zamzam water at Makkah gates as they use unsterilized containers. He said the Saudi government has prohibited such illegal sales of Zamzam water.

Meanwhile, a responsible source at the Presidency of the Two Holy Mosques Affairs highlighted the measures taken for the protection of Zamzam water saying the water passes through stainless steel pipes to the cooling stations and then to the Grand Mosque.

He said the presidency has given utmost importance for the preservation and distribution of Zamzam water, adding that it is closely monitored around the clock.

According to the World Health Organization, the permitted arsenic rate in natural water is up to 10 microgram per liter. If the rate goes up then the water could be harmful to the kidney and liver and cause cancer. The rate of arsenic in Zamzam water is much less than the amount permitted by the WHO.

Talal Mahjoub, a Saudi, denounced the move to create suspicion about the quality of Zamzam water.

“My family and I have been drinking Zamzam for many years. None of us have suffered any disease as a result of drinking it. If the BBC report was true, Makkans would have suffered many diseases, including cancer, because most of them drink Zamzam.”

The Saudi Embassy in London also issued a statement affirming the purity of Zamzam in Makkah.

“Scientific tests conducted on samples taken from the original source have proved the Zamzam water is good for drinking,” it said, referring to tests conducted on the water at a French laboratory. It said the Kingdom does not export Zamzam water. The King Abdullah Zamzam water complex, which was established in Makkah last September at a cost of SR700 million, can supply 200,000 bottles daily.

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From the Comment section:

Moshin A.D.- "It is my understanding that BBC did not claim that the Zamzam well in Makkah was contaminated. They were talking about the contamination in canned water sold in Islamic stores labelled as "Zamzam". Its my feeling that this practice of commercialization must stop."

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  • Veteran Member
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All commercial "Zam Zam water" or the bottles of it that are gifted by returning pilgrims to other people is always thoroughly diluted and mixed with ordinary water because only a small quantity is allowed to be taken from the real zam-zam well in mecca. It is impossible for any business to set up internationally and sell pure zam-zam water because they don't let people draw it anywhere near such quantities and hence the business is unfeasible.

Shame on all the satanists spiraling down and perching on this particular strawman issue because no water samples purely from zam-zam well have been mentioned or tested, and the fact of the matter is that dishonest satanists like in this thread wouldn't even want a real arsenic test on pure zam-zam water nor would they care. Never have never will.

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Those criminal islam hating hypocrites turned Sayida Khadijah (as) home into a public bathroom and put Amina (as) mother of our prophets grave into flames with gasoline .. After apparently bulldozing it to the ground. Those people are anti-Muslims without any limits in nastiness and evil plotting. So contaminating water going to all Muslims would be in accordance with their agenda. Basically with those people they will do their best to be bad the way we try our best to be good. Only Allah SWT knows exactly how dark their souls really are. May Allah destroy them quickly and give our holy lands peace .. And the whole world peace!

(salam)

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