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Salaam Aleikum,

One of my favorite Prophet Jesus (as) statement on the greatest action:

"The disciples asked Jesus, "Indicate to us a work by which we may enter the Garden." He said, "Do not speak at all." They said, "We cannot do that." He said, "Then do not speak except what is good"

One of the most important moral conduct in Islam is silence:

1. It's obliterate any negative and vain speech that you may say to other person.

2. It will protect you from many sins. And it is Halaal act.

3. Also it will create to you patience and wisdom to think before you speak if necessary needed.

4. It will save you much time for other important things to do.

5. It will soft your voice and relax your self. And it is healthy.

6. etc..

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Practice Being Silent

This is also a characteristic of a follower of ahlulbayt (as)

Many of us may have heard the phrase “silence is a virtue.” In this post, I will present two authentic traditions, to indicate that it really is. 

Nowadays, many of us are uncomfortable with silence.  In our daily lives we are always surrounded by noise and distractions, which on our subconscious level, make silence an unusual thing in our minds. Amongst our friends, we relate silence to either awkwardness or boredom, being silent isn’t the “fun thing” or the right thing to do. Idle talking has become the norm. Rude and impolite jokes and humour have gained social acceptance to the point that comedians gain respect and wealth from it. In short, all the audio and visual noises and distractions around us, have made us forget the value and virtue of silence.

 

The second tradition is especially very important for the followers of Ahlul bayt (as), the holy progeny of the prophet, peace be upon them all.

So, let us take heed and pray and supplicate to God to help us realize the value of silence once again. 

A change from being the “social butterfly” or the “cool” friend to a “boring” acquaintance, amongst your friends, may not be easy in this world, but in the eyes of God and the Ahlul bayt of His beloved prophet, peace be upon them all, this change is recommended and highly valued. 

Here are the traditions:

1)

Arabic text:

ãõÍóãóøÏõ Èúäõ íóÍúíóì Úóäú ÃóÍúãóÏó Èúäö ãõÍóãóøÏö Èúäö ÚöíÓóì Úóäú ÃóÍúãóÏó Èúäö ãõÍóãóøÏö Èúäö ÃóÈöí äóÕúÑò ÞóÇáó ÞóÇáó ÃóÈõæ ÇáúÍóÓóäö ÇáÑöøÖóÇ Ú ãöäú ÚóáóÇãóÇÊö ÇáúÝöÞúåö ÇáúÍöáúãõ æó ÇáúÚöáúãõ æó ÇáÕóøãúÊõ Åöäóø ÇáÕóøãúÊó ÈóÇÈñ ãöäú ÃóÈúæóÇÈö ÇáúÍößúãóÉö Åöäóø ÇáÕóøãúÊó íóßúÓöÈõ ÇáúãóÍóÈóøÉó Åöäóøåõ Ïóáöíáñ Úóáóì ßõáöø ÎóíúÑò

Farsi Translation:

ÇãÇã ÑÖÇ (Ú) ÝÑãæÏ:

ÇÒ äÔÇäåþ åÇì Ýåã (ÏÑ Ïíä) ÈÑÏÈÇÑì æ ÏÇäÔ æ ÎÇãæÔì ÇÓÊ¡ Èå ÑÇÓÊì ÎÇãæÔì ÏÑì ÇÓÊ ÇÒ ÏÑåÇì ÍßãÊ¡ Èå ÑÇÓÊì ÎÇãæÔì ÏæÓÊì ÂæÑÏ¡ Èå ÑÇÓÊì ßå Âä Ïáíá åÑ ÎæÈì ÇÓÊ.

English Translation:

Mohammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Mohammad ibn Eissa from Ahmad ibn Mohammad ibn Abi Nasr who has said: "Abu al Hasan Al Ridha (peace be upon him) said: signs of [understanding] jurisprudence include forbearance, knowledge and silence. And silence is a door from multiple doors of wisdom. Silence leads to earning love, it's a proof that everything is good."

2)

Arabic Text:

Úóäúåõ ]ãõÍóãóøÏõ Èúäõ íóÍúíóì Úóäú ÃóÍúãóÏó Èúäö ãõÍóãóøÏö Èúäö ÚöíÓóì[ Úóäö ÇáúÍóÓóäö Èúäö ãóÍúÈõæÈò Úóäú ÚóÈúÏö Çááóøåö Èúäö ÓöäóÇäò Úóäú ÃóÈöí ÍóãúÒóÉó ÞóÇáó ÓóãöÚúÊõ ÃóÈóÇ ÌóÚúÝóÑò Ú íóÞõæáõ ÅöäóøãóÇ ÔöíÚóÊõäóÇ ÇáúÎõÑúÓõ

Farsi Translation:

ÇÒ ÇãÇã ÈÇÞÑ (Ú) ßå ãìþ ÝÑãæÏ:

åãÇäÇ ÔíÚíÇä ãÇ Èì þÒÈÇääÏ.

English Translation:

He has narrated from Al Hassan ibn Mahbob from Abd-Allah ibn Senan from Abi- Hamza who has said: "I heard Abu ja'far (peace be upon him) say: our followers (Shi’a) are those who are mute [silent]."

Source:

Al-Kafi, Volume 2, Page 113, Traditions #1 & #2

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Practice Being Silent

This is also a characteristic of a follower of ahlulbayt (as)

Many of us may have heard the phrase “silence is a virtue.” In this post, I will present two authentic traditions, to indicate that it really is. 

Nowadays, many of us are uncomfortable with silence.  In our daily lives we are always surrounded by noise and distractions, which on our subconscious level, make silence an unusual thing in our minds. Amongst our friends, we relate silence to either awkwardness or boredom, being silent isn’t the “fun thing” or the right thing to do. Idle talking has become the norm. Rude and impolite jokes and humour have gained social acceptance to the point that comedians gain respect and wealth from it. In short, all the audio and visual noises and distractions around us, have made us forget the value and virtue of silence.

 

The second tradition is especially very important for the followers of Ahlul bayt (as), the holy progeny of the prophet, peace be upon them all.

So, let us take heed and pray and supplicate to God to help us realize the value of silence once again. 

A change from being the “social butterfly” or the “cool” friend to a “boring” acquaintance, amongst your friends, may not be easy in this world, but in the eyes of God and the Ahlul bayt of His beloved prophet, peace be upon them all, this change is recommended and highly valued. 

Here are the traditions:

1)

Arabic text:

ãõÍóãóøÏõ Èúäõ íóÍúíóì Úóäú ÃóÍúãóÏó Èúäö ãõÍóãóøÏö Èúäö ÚöíÓóì Úóäú ÃóÍúãóÏó Èúäö ãõÍóãóøÏö Èúäö ÃóÈöí äóÕúÑò ÞóÇáó ÞóÇáó ÃóÈõæ ÇáúÍóÓóäö ÇáÑöøÖóÇ Ú ãöäú ÚóáóÇãóÇÊö ÇáúÝöÞúåö ÇáúÍöáúãõ æó ÇáúÚöáúãõ æó ÇáÕóøãúÊõ Åöäóø ÇáÕóøãúÊó ÈóÇÈñ ãöäú ÃóÈúæóÇÈö ÇáúÍößúãóÉö Åöäóø ÇáÕóøãúÊó íóßúÓöÈõ ÇáúãóÍóÈóøÉó Åöäóøåõ Ïóáöíáñ Úóáóì ßõáöø ÎóíúÑò

Farsi Translation:

ÇãÇã ÑÖÇ (Ú) ÝÑãæÏ:

ÇÒ äÔÇäåþ åÇì Ýåã (ÏÑ Ïíä) ÈÑÏÈÇÑì æ ÏÇäÔ æ ÎÇãæÔì ÇÓÊ¡ Èå ÑÇÓÊì ÎÇãæÔì ÏÑì ÇÓÊ ÇÒ ÏÑåÇì ÍßãÊ¡ Èå ÑÇÓÊì ÎÇãæÔì ÏæÓÊì ÂæÑÏ¡ Èå ÑÇÓÊì ßå Âä Ïáíá åÑ ÎæÈì ÇÓÊ.

English Translation:

Mohammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Mohammad ibn Eissa from Ahmad ibn Mohammad ibn Abi Nasr who has said: "Abu al Hasan Al Ridha (peace be upon him) said: signs of [understanding] jurisprudence include forbearance, knowledge and silence. And silence is a door from multiple doors of wisdom. Silence leads to earning love, it's a proof that everything is good."

2)

Arabic Text:

Úóäúåõ ]ãõÍóãóøÏõ Èúäõ íóÍúíóì Úóäú ÃóÍúãóÏó Èúäö ãõÍóãóøÏö Èúäö ÚöíÓóì[ Úóäö ÇáúÍóÓóäö Èúäö ãóÍúÈõæÈò Úóäú ÚóÈúÏö Çááóøåö Èúäö ÓöäóÇäò Úóäú ÃóÈöí ÍóãúÒóÉó ÞóÇáó ÓóãöÚúÊõ ÃóÈóÇ ÌóÚúÝóÑò Ú íóÞõæáõ ÅöäóøãóÇ ÔöíÚóÊõäóÇ ÇáúÎõÑúÓõ

Farsi Translation:

ÇÒ ÇãÇã ÈÇÞÑ (Ú) ßå ãìþ ÝÑãæÏ:

åãÇäÇ ÔíÚíÇä ãÇ Èì þÒÈÇääÏ.

English Translation:

He has narrated from Al Hassan ibn Mahbob from Abd-Allah ibn Senan from Abi- Hamza who has said: "I heard Abu ja'far (peace be upon him) say: our followers (Shi’a) are those who are mute [silent]."

Source:

Al-Kafi, Volume 2, Page 113, Traditions #1 & #2

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I've actually practiced vows of silence before like how monks or dervishes do it. I actually feel really great when I do it. The longest I've gone without saying a word is about three days. ;)

There is no God but God and Jesus (pbuh) is his prophet

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Do you know if there is guidence on how to approach the Gospels?

I've actually practiced vows of silence before like how monks or dervishes do it. I actually feel really great when I do it. The longest I've gone without saying a word is about three days. ;)

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I thought that one was required to say the Bismillah aloud for consuming food?

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Another one:

The disciples complained to Jesus the son of Mary about the disrespect of the people for them and their hating them. He said, “Be patient. Likewise the believers are hated among the people. The example of them is like the example of wheat. How sweet is its taste and how numerous are its enemies.

(Majmu‘a Warràm, 2, 114)

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Do you know if there is guidence on how to approach the Gospels?

By "Gospels," which do you mean? There are quite a few other than the four: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Though these are a good start due to their availability, they are not the only texts worthy of study. Studying the history of Christianity, you find that there were many different beliefs and scriptures( some going by the name of 'Gospels') some only mildly different and some drastically different. For example, the "Gospel of Peter" was still in use at the time of the Prophet (pbuh) even by monasteries , yet only exists in small fragments. It's one of the texts that may suggest that Jesus did not die on the cross but survived it. You also have a sayings Gospel called the "Gospel of Thomas" that claims to record mystic teachings of Jesus (pbuh) to his disciples.

I thought that one was required to say the Bismillah aloud for consuming food?

Well, I've never heard that one MUST speak it before eating, but let me put it this way: a mouth can speak a prayer or utter praise but the mind can be elsewhere. The idea is to focus the mind so the mouth does not speak the opposite of what is in your heart. A person could say the Bismillah and their mind could not be thinking of God, rather they are speaking so out of habit or worse, out of a desire for attention, and not with the love of God. So through silence, you learn to think the Bismillah and act as one who utters it should, rather than just simply saying it and putting on an act like you really care about thanking God through words. Silence is a reminder that it is not the tongue that faith comes from, but the heart.

Here is another tradition of Jesus I find inspiring:

A pig passed by Jesus.Jesus said, "Pass in peace." He was asked, "Spirit of God, how can you say this to a pig?" Jesus said, "I hate to accustom my tongue to evil."

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The fast of silence, keeping silent a day until night, is declared haram in a number of narrations. Such as:

[ 14023 ] 1 ـ محمد بن علي بن الحسين بإسناده عن زرارة ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) ـ في حديث ـ قال : ولا صمت يوما إلى الليل .

1 – Muhammad b. `Ali b. al-Husayn by his isnad from Zurara from Abu `Abdillah (as) in a hadith wherein he said: And there is no silence for a day until the night.

[ 14024 ] 2 ـ وبإسناده عن الزهري ، عن علي بن الحسين ( عليه السلام ) ـ في حديث ـ قال : وصوم الصمت حرام .

2 – And by his isnad from Zuhri from `Ali b. al-Husayn (as) in a hadith wherein he said: The fast of silence is forbidden (haram).

[ 14025 ] 3 ـ وبإسناده عن حماد بن عمرو وأنس بن محمد ، عن أبيه ، عن جعفر بن محمد ، عن آبائه ( عليهم السلام ) ـ في وصية النبي ( صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم ) لعلي ( عليه السلام ) ـ قال : ولا صمت يوما إلى الليل ـ إلى أن قال : ـ وصوم الصمت حرام .

3 – And by his isnad from Hammad b. `Amr and Anas b. Muhammad from his father from Ja`far b. Muhammad from his fathers عليهم السلام in the testament of the Prophet (sawa) to `Ali (as), he said: And there is no silence for a day until the night – until he said: And the fast of silence is forbidden.

[ 14011 ] 2 ـ وبإسناده عن منصور بن حازم ، عن أبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) * ـ في حديث ـ قال : لا وصال في صيام ، ولا صمت يوما إلى الليل .

2 – And by his isnad from Mansur b. Hazim from Abu Ja`far ( عليه السلام ) in a hadith (wherein) he said: There is no wisal in fasting and silence for a day until the night.

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The fast of silence, keeping silent a day until night, is declared haram in a number of narrations. Such as:

[ 14023 ] 1 ـ محمد بن علي بن الحسين بإسناده عن زرارة ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) ـ في حديث ـ قال : ولا صمت يوما إلى الليل .

1 – Muhammad b. `Ali b. al-Husayn by his isnad from Zurara from Abu `Abdillah (as) in a hadith wherein he said: And there is no silence for a day until the night.

[ 14024 ] 2 ـ وبإسناده عن الزهري ، عن علي بن الحسين ( عليه السلام ) ـ في حديث ـ قال : وصوم الصمت حرام .

2 – And by his isnad from Zuhri from `Ali b. al-Husayn (as) in a hadith wherein he said: The fast of silence is forbidden (haram).

[ 14025 ] 3 ـ وبإسناده عن حماد بن عمرو وأنس بن محمد ، عن أبيه ، عن جعفر بن محمد ، عن آبائه ( عليهم السلام ) ـ في وصية النبي ( صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم ) لعلي ( عليه السلام ) ـ قال : ولا صمت يوما إلى الليل ـ إلى أن قال : ـ وصوم الصمت حرام .

3 – And by his isnad from Hammad b. `Amr and Anas b. Muhammad from his father from Ja`far b. Muhammad from his fathers عليهم السلام in the testament of the Prophet (sawa) to `Ali (as), he said: And there is no silence for a day until the night – until he said: And the fast of silence is forbidden.

[ 14011 ] 2 ـ وبإسناده عن منصور بن حازم ، عن أبي جعفر ( عليه السلام ) * ـ في حديث ـ قال : لا وصال في صيام ، ولا صمت يوما إلى الليل .

2 – And by his isnad from Mansur b. Hazim from Abu Ja`far ( عليه السلام ) in a hadith (wherein) he said: There is no wisal in fasting and silence for a day until the night.

Salaam Aleikum,

Ahsent, good to know this.

A pig passed by Jesus.Jesus said, "Pass in peace." He was asked, "Spirit of God, how can you say this to a pig?" Jesus said, "I hate to accustom my tongue to evil."

This is also good one

Having a Good regard for others:

It is reported that Jesus (‘a) passed by a carcass with his disciples. Then the disciples said, “How putrid the smell of this dog is!” Then Jesus (‘a) said, “How intense is the whiteness of his teeth!” (Bihàr, 14, 327, 46)

Kindness to all Creations:

Verily, when Jesus, the son of Mary, passed along the shore of sea, he threw a piece of his bread into the water. Some of the disciples said: "O Spirit of God and His Word! Why did you do this when that was your food? He said: "I did this in order that some animal amongst the animals of the sea may eat it, and the reward of God for this is great"

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Great. I really love to read islamic stories about the teachings and deeds of Jesus.

One interesting thing is that he's often called "Spirit of God" by his disciples. Most hadith I read have them saying "O Spirit of God" He's even described similarly in the Quran though not as the title "Spirit of God." Which is useful information when attempting to study what I like to call "Islamic Christology"

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A man accompanied Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) the son of Maryam (Mary) and said that he would go with him. They continued along until they came to a river. They sat and started to eat. They had three loaves of bread. They ate two of them and one remained.

Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) went to the river, drank some water and returned. Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) did not find the third loaf, so he asked the man who had taken that loaf. The man said that he did not know.

They continued until they came to a doe followed by two fawns. Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) beckoned one of the fawns, killed it, roasted it and they ate it. Then Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) addressed the fawn [that had been eaten,] saying, "Live!" It came to life and went. Then Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) said to the man, "By the God Who has shown you this miracle, who took that loaf of bread?" The man said that he did not know.

They continued until they reached a lake. Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) took the hand of the man and led him over the water. When they reached the other side, Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) said, "By the One Who has shown you this miracle, who took that loaf of bread?" The man said that he did not know.

They continued until they reached a desert. They sat down. Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) gathered some sand or dust and said, "By the permission of Allah (SWT), be Gold!" It became Gold. He divided it into three portions.

Then Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) said, "One third is for me, one third for you, and one third for whoever took that loaf of bread."

The man said, "Alright, I took that loaf of bread."

Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) said, "Then all of this Gold is yours." Then he left him.

The man encountered two other men in the desert. They wanted to take his Gold and kill him. He said, "Let us divide the Gold into three portions." They sent one of them to the village to buy food.

The one who went said to himself, "Why should I let them have portions of this wealth? I shall put some poison into the food, and kill them." So, he poisoned the food.

The other two said, "Why should we give a third of this wealth to him. When he comes back, let us kill him, and divide the rest of the wealth between us."

When he returned, they attacked him and killed him. Then they ate the poisoned food and died. The wealth remained in the desert with the three dead men beside it.

Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) passed them and saw the situation. He said to his disciples, "This is the world, so beware of it!"

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Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) was once seen running away from a man. People were surprised to see him running away. Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) did not run away from anything or anybody. He was known for his goodness, humbleness and friendliness.

They asked him: "Isa, spirit of Allah, why are you running away from that man?"

Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) replied: "I am running away from a fool."

People were still more surprised, they knew that Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) was a prophet. He had cured the sick. He had even brought the dead to life. So they said: "But Isa, spirit of Allah, you have power to bring dead to life."

Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) smiled and said: "True, I have brought dead to life. But I find it difficult to bring a fool to his senses."

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A man accompanied Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) the son of Maryam (Mary) and said that he would go with him. They continued along until they came to a river. They sat and started to eat. They had three loaves of bread. They ate two of them and one remained.

Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) went to the river, drank some water and returned. Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) did not find the third loaf, so he asked the man who had taken that loaf. The man said that he did not know.

They continued until they came to a doe followed by two fawns. Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) beckoned one of the fawns, killed it, roasted it and they ate it. Then Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) addressed the fawn [that had been eaten,] saying, "Live!" It came to life and went. Then Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) said to the man, "By the God Who has shown you this miracle, who took that loaf of bread?" The man said that he did not know.

They continued until they reached a lake. Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) took the hand of the man and led him over the water. When they reached the other side, Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) said, "By the One Who has shown you this miracle, who took that loaf of bread?" The man said that he did not know.

They continued until they reached a desert. They sat down. Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) gathered some sand or dust and said, "By the permission of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, be Gold!" It became Gold. He divided it into three portions.

Then Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) said, "One third is for me, one third for you, and one third for whoever took that loaf of bread."

The man said, "Alright, I took that loaf of bread."

Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) said, "Then all of this Gold is yours." Then he left him.

The man encountered two other men in the desert. They wanted to take his Gold and kill him. He said, "Let us divide the Gold into three portions." They sent one of them to the village to buy food.

The one who went said to himself, "Why should I let them have portions of this wealth? I shall put some poison into the food, and kill them." So, he poisoned the food.

The other two said, "Why should we give a third of this wealth to him. When he comes back, let us kill him, and divide the rest of the wealth between us."

When he returned, they attacked him and killed him. Then they ate the poisoned food and died. The wealth remained in the desert with the three dead men beside it.

Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) passed them and saw the situation. He said to his disciples, "This is the world, so beware of it!"

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Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) was once seen running away from a man. People were surprised to see him running away. Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) did not run away from anything or anybody. He was known for his goodness, humbleness and friendliness.

They asked him: "Isa, spirit of Allah, why are you running away from that man?"

Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) replied: "I am running away from a fool."

People were still more surprised, they knew that Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) was a prophet. He had cured the sick. He had even brought the dead to life. So they said: "But Isa, spirit of Allah, you have power to bring dead to life."

Prophet Isa (Jesus, peace upon him) smiled and said: "True, I have brought dead to life. But I find it difficult to bring a fool to his senses."

Nice hadtih...can you please provide with the source of it please

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Nice hadtih...can you please provide with the source of it please

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As for the first one, the book 'Jesus (as) Through the Qur'an ans Shi'ite narrations' (Muhammad Legenhausen) gives it as

-Majmu'ah Warram, 1 , 179

As for the second one, I'm sorry, but I can't find a source, I took it from this site

http://www.ezsoftech.com/stories/isa.asp

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The fast of silence, keeping silent a day until night, is declared haram in a number of narrations. Such as:

[ 14023 ] 1 Ü ãÍãÏ Èä Úáí Èä ÇáÍÓíä ÈÅÓäÇÏå Úä ÒÑÇÑÉ ¡ Úä ÃÈí ÚÈÏÇááå ( Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã ) Ü Ýí ÍÏíË Ü ÞÇá : æáÇ ÕãÊ íæãÇ Åáì Çááíá .

1 – Muhammad b. `Ali b. al-Husayn by his isnad from Zurara from Abu `Abdillah (as) in a hadith wherein he said: And there is no silence for a day until the night.

[ 14024 ] 2 Ü æÈÅÓäÇÏå Úä ÇáÒåÑí ¡ Úä Úáí Èä ÇáÍÓíä ( Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã ) Ü Ýí ÍÏíË Ü ÞÇá : æÕæã ÇáÕãÊ ÍÑÇã .

2 – And by his isnad from Zuhri from `Ali b. al-Husayn (as) in a hadith wherein he said: The fast of silence is forbidden (haram).

[ 14025 ] 3 Ü æÈÅÓäÇÏå Úä ÍãÇÏ Èä ÚãÑæ æÃäÓ Èä ãÍãÏ ¡ Úä ÃÈíå ¡ Úä ÌÚÝÑ Èä ãÍãÏ ¡ Úä ÂÈÇÆå ( Úáíåã ÇáÓáÇã ) Ü Ýí æÕíÉ ÇáäÈí ( Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÂáå æÓáã ) áÚáí ( Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã ) Ü ÞÇá : æáÇ ÕãÊ íæãÇ Åáì Çááíá Ü Åáì Ãä ÞÇá : Ü æÕæã ÇáÕãÊ ÍÑÇã .

3 – And by his isnad from Hammad b. `Amr and Anas b. Muhammad from his father from Ja`far b. Muhammad from his fathers Úáíåã ÇáÓáÇã in the testament of the Prophet (sawa) to `Ali (as), he said: And there is no silence for a day until the night – until he said: And the fast of silence is forbidden.

[ 14011 ] 2 Ü æÈÅÓäÇÏå Úä ãäÕæÑ Èä ÍÇÒã ¡ Úä ÃÈí ÌÚÝÑ ( Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã ) * Ü Ýí ÍÏíË Ü ÞÇá : áÇ æÕÇá Ýí ÕíÇã ¡ æáÇ ÕãÊ íæãÇ Åáì Çááíá .

2 – And by his isnad from Mansur b. Hazim from Abu Ja`far ( Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã ) in a hadith (wherein) he said: There is no wisal in fasting and silence for a day until the night.

As always, the Imams advocate acts in moderation and never extremes.

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Salaam Aleikum,

One of my favorite Prophet Jesus (as) statement on the greatest action:

"The disciples asked Jesus, "Indicate to us a work by which we may enter the Garden." He said, "Do not speak at all." They said, "We cannot do that." He said, "Then do not speak except what is good"

One of the most important moral conduct in Islam is silence:

1. It's obliterate any negative and vain speech that you may say to other person.

2. It will protect you from many sins. And it is Halaal act.

3. Also it will create to you patience and wisdom to think before you speak if necessary needed.

4. It will save you much time for other important things to do.

5. It will soft your voice and relax your self. And it is healthy.

6. etc..

Rightly said

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I don't see why the Imams would ban a fast of silence. I don't doubt the wisdom of the Imams, I just don't think the Imams would just forbid outright a fast of silence. What is the logic in forbidding it? If the two hadiths contradict one another, then one must be false. Either the one attributed to the Imams or the one attributed to Jesus and so far I think one attributed to Jesus is right because it makes sense to me.

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I don't see why the Imams would ban a fast of silence. I don't doubt the wisdom of the Imams, I just don't think the Imams would just forbid outright a fast of silence. What is the logic in forbidding it? If the two hadiths contradict one another, then one must be false. Either the one attributed to the Imams or the one attributed to Jesus and so far I think one attributed to Jesus is right because it makes sense to me.

Which hadith of Jesus are you talking about? I thought the one being quoted was about only speaking good? And even if there is a such a hadith, as you know, it is the Prophet (pbuh) who completed the religion of God and thus we should be looking towards him and his successors if there is any contradiction between past and present teachings of the prophets.

As for why the Imams would ban a fast of silence, I think the wisdom is that we not isolate ourselves from society by choosing not to speak the entire day.

And I must point out, while it is good to look for the logic in our laws (so as to strengthen our beliefs in them and encourage our practice of them), we must not base the criterion of whether or not we accept them on logic itself.

You chose to believe the one attributed to Jesus as being 'right' just because it makes sense to you ...? :D

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Well, if I live by what makes sense to me, how else will I live? Just follow what someone else says makes sense?

As someone whose actually practiced not speaking, I must say it's a great spiritual exercise that can help you stop from constantly opening your mouth just to get attention. Think about it, how many have we embarrassed ourselves or angered or hurt somebody on accident just because we wanted to attention all by just saying a few words? Also, sometimes our minds think one thing and mouths say another and we don't bother to fix our thinking because we have declared the opposite with our mouths. Sometimes we also think hateful or lustful things and instead of correcting them, we choose to express them with our tongues. We also say we'll do things with our mouths to people, but don't harbor a feeling to actually do it in our hearts, so we lie with spoken words to get them off our back. To withhold the tongue is make your actions speak for themselves and focus on cleaning the mind of sin by focusing it on God without the distraction of conversation with other humans that don't matter if we engage in them or not.

So, again, I don't see why the Imams would forbid such a thing outright. Neither do I feel that the spoken traditions and habits of other prophets before Muhammad and the Imams are useless in bringing us closer to God due to Ahlul Bayt's arrival.

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Well, if I live by what makes sense to me, how else will I live? Just follow what someone else says makes sense?

The Ahlulbayt are certainly not just 'someone else'. What reason, other than that the hadith do not make sense to you, do you have for rejecting their words? Religion is not something that we can pick and choose from.

As someone whose actually practiced not speaking, I must say it's a great spiritual exercise that can help you stop from constantly opening your mouth just to get attention. Think about it, how many have we embarrassed ourselves or angered or hurt somebody on accident just because we wanted to attention all by just saying a few words? Also, sometimes our minds think one thing and mouths say another and we don't bother to fix our thinking because we have declared the opposite with our mouths. Sometimes we also think hateful or lustful things and instead of correcting them, we choose to express them with our tongues. We also say we'll do things with our mouths to people, but don't harbor a feeling to actually do it in our hearts, so we lie with spoken words to get them off our back. To withhold the tongue is make your actions speak for themselves and focus on cleaning the mind of sin by focusing it on God without the distraction of conversation with other humans that don't matter if we engage in them or not.

I don't disagree with you here at all ... silence has indeed got many benefits and the Imams do encourage it, what they forbid is making a vow to remain silent the whole day regardless of what's going on around you. My point is that we should develop our willpower to such a point that we remain silent where the situation demands it, and not simply avoid speaking completely. What possible benefit would that have? After all, you do need to interact with the society as a whole, and most importantly, your friends and family. Do all situations you encounter throughout the day require silence? I'm sure that's not the case. Like I said before, moderation and not extremes. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.

So, again, I don't see why the Imams would forbid such a thing outright. Neither do I feel that the spoken traditions and habits of other prophets before Muhammad and the Imams are useless in bringing us closer to God due to Ahlul Bayt's arrival.

You did not address my point that when there are contradictions, it is the Ahlulbayt we are to look towards for answers. Just like how we look towards the Qur'an and not past scriptures in resolving differences between other religions and Islam. This is because the Qur'an is the latest message from God, just as the Prophet (pbuh) and his holy household are the latest people sent by God to explain that message to us.

Certainly, we can always look to the, as you said, spoken traditions and habits of other prophets for guidance ... so long as they do not contradict those of the Ahlulbayt.

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By "Gospels," which do you mean? There are quite a few other than the four: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Though these are a good start due to their availability, they are not the only texts worthy of study. Studying the history of Christianity, you find that there were many different beliefs and scriptures( some going by the name of 'Gospels') some only mildly different and some drastically different. For example, the "Gospel of Peter" was still in use at the time of the Prophet (pbuh) even by monasteries , yet only exists in small fragments. It's one of the texts that may suggest that Jesus did not die on the cross but survived it. You also have a sayings Gospel called the "Gospel of Thomas" that claims to record mystic teachings of Jesus (pbuh) to his disciples.

Well, I've never heard that one MUST speak it before eating, but let me put it this way: a mouth can speak a prayer or utter praise but the mind can be elsewhere. The idea is to focus the mind so the mouth does not speak the opposite of what is in your heart. A person could say the Bismillah and their mind could not be thinking of God, rather they are speaking so out of habit or worse, out of a desire for attention, and not with the love of God. So through silence, you learn to think the Bismillah and act as one who utters it should, rather than just simply saying it and putting on an act like you really care about thanking God through words. Silence is a reminder that it is not the tongue that faith comes from, but the heart.

Here is another tradition of Jesus I find inspiring:

A pig passed by Jesus.Jesus said, "Pass in peace." He was asked, "Spirit of God, how can you say this to a pig?" Jesus said, "I hate to accustom my tongue to evil."

I completely agree with you on this, as most things I "say" are said from within and silently as opposed to outloud-For some reason, I am quite preoccupied with not saying things as to attract the attention of others for I do not want it to be an act of show, rather one of sincerity,and Allah knows my intentions, of this I am sure...
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