Soul-mates, Fact Or Fiction?

[the Neo]

(salam)

Does any1 believe in soul-mates, created with every individual man and woman? Islam probably does not cover this aspect with too much depth, or maybe it does, I ain't aware of this.

But wen I think of soul-mates, Ali (as) and her majesty, bibi Fatima (as) come to mind and my favorite couple is the Messenger (pbuh) and her majesty, bibi Khatijah (as). These blessed couples were more than soul-mates for the other, but they were certainly soul-mates too.

A soulmate would mean, another person (of opposite sex) from whom u get a strong tangible spiritual feeling of compassion, resulting into inner_harmony with each other, no matter even if the couple fights all the time. There is supposed to b a strong palpable connection that cannot b hidden or ended, till death. It's nature must b such that even pain coming from such mate does not give a bad feeling and in some twisted manner a soulmate enjoys all good and all bad coming from the mate.

So r our sole mates alive with us, in this time and space, in which we r trapped?

Is there any device, tool, method to detect them? ^_^

Edited April 15, 2011 by Bukharisolo

[OneNoteSong]

Fiction.

[Legendary]

how about love at first sight?

[Guest Ayman]

Interesting topic,, will come back to it after getting this boring work done!

[wayfarer.]

Lol i just remembered a funny q ---> "Do you believe in love at first sight, or should I walk by again? "

[sunrise_786]

I think there is such thing as soul mates.Though they dont necessarily match in other ways their heart is just attached.. :blush:

and love at first sight...well i think you first LIKE them then eventually love them. you can't love someone unless you know them. so you don't know them when you first see them

but you are attracted to them at first sight. :).

[Elvis_King]

It may exist but not everyone finds eachother here on earth

[Labayk Yahussain]

how about love at first sight?

Lol i just remembered a funny q ---> "Do you believe in love at first sight, or should I walk by again? "

(bismillah)

(salam)

Dang! whatever happened to "like"! You just bypass "like" and go directly to "love"! and even that, on the very first sight!! You process things real fast I must say.

Your thought-process: I see her!..... she is nice.... No.... she is smart.....No (and how can I know I havnt even talked to her yet).... she is good-looking.....oh yeah! (But but, I cant think about that yet, or that atleast shouldnt be my first impression of her).....hm..... But but, I have to have some sort of first thought/feeling after looking at her... I got it.... I LOVE HER.... yay! Love at first sight ! .... let me go tell my mama... oh shoot, I dont even know her name...... oh well.....

Moral of the story: Lower your gaze and guard your modesty..... you shouldnt have been "gazing/looking" at her in the first place! You have sinned! go wash your eyes out with the best soap known to man, "Lifeboy Soap"!

[Iman]

I believe it in it's literal meaning ie, a soul-mate is someone who I was friends with when I was once purely a soul, in amongst the billion others :angel:

Please dont quote me on this because this is through somebody else, but there was apparently a comment mentioned by a lecturer once saying that those who we 'connect' with in a positive way in this life, you know that instantaneous mutual 'buzz' ? , are very possibly souls that we were 'mates' with, 'way back when'.. We obviously cant remember that phase of our 'lives', but there is still a connection in our human form. Part of me does believes this.

A soul mate doesnt have to necessarily be husband and wife, it could also be friends. I feel that I have friends who i connected with from the word go, and even if I dont see them, heck they may not even live in the same city/state/country etc, it feels like we're on the same wavelength and pick up conversations exactly where we left off......... 6-12months ago!

Allahu a`lam. Only God knows :) In the meantime, dont try searching for it, if you're meant to meet you will - and more importantly dont freak that person out and ask them what they think about soul-mates/ask if you think you both are, not on the first meeting anyway :lol:

Edited April 16, 2011 by Iman

[Gypsy]

(salam)

Adam (as) and Huwa(sa) are probably soul mate. Fatima (sa) and Ali (as), yes, because of tradition. Prophet (pbuh) and Khadija (sa) perfect soul mate.

There are definitely some people who are more compatible than others but each of us would probably have thousands of soul mates. I don’t really believe in 1:1 soul mate.

[the Neo]

I believe it in it's literal meaning ie, a soul-mate is someone who I was friends with when I was once purely a soul, in amongst the billion others :angel:

Please dont quote me on this because this is through somebody else, but there was apparently a comment mentioned by a lecturer once saying that those who we 'connect' with in a positive way in this life, you know that instantaneous mutual 'buzz' ? , are very possibly souls that we were 'mates' with, 'way back when'.. We obviously cant remember that phase of our 'lives', but there is still a connection in our human form. Part of me does believes this.

A soul mate doesnt have to necessarily be husband and wife, it could also be friends. I feel that I have friends who i connected with from the word go, and even if I dont see them, heck they may not even live in the same city/state/country etc, it feels like we're on the same wavelength and pick up conversations exactly where we left off......... 6-12months ago!

Allahu a`lam. Only God knows :) In the meantime, dont try searching for it, if you're meant to meet you will - and more importantly dont freak that person out and ask them what they think about soul-mates/ask if you think you both are, not on the first meeting anyway :lol:

Nice thoughts. ..and v funny.

Thanx.

:rolleyes:

(salam)

Adam (as) and Huwa(sa) are probably soul mate. Fatima (sa) and Ali (as), yes, because of tradition. Prophet (pbuh) and Khadija (sa) perfect soul mate.

There are definitely some people who are more compatible than others but each of us would probably have thousands of soul mates. I don’t really believe in 1:1 soul mate.

(salam)

Yes, I missed the greatest epic love story of human history, Adam (as) and amma Hawa (as), thanx for the inclusion.

But having 'thousands' of soulmates would mean that each person would hav a probability of running into at least a 10 to 12 in a lifespan. However, soulmates hardly cross paths, it's rare and it's more than 'compatibility' it's got spiritual connotations, I think. It's too rare to b in thousands, I'd be happy with a drastically smaller number.

-_-

Thanx.

Lol i just remembered a funny q ---> "Do you believe in love at first sight, or should I walk by again? "

:lol:

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[-SeeKeR-]

I think its better to not focus too much on such overly romaticized concepts as they just mess with your head. You might really connect with someone but not be able to be with them...and then you would think....OMG my life is ruined i cant be with my soulmate and fall into a depression. Its better to keep an open mind about everyone otherwise you might get married to someone and keep on thinking about your so called soulmate.

And sometimes you might not even connect with people in marriage but you just have to make it work by giving it time and such concepts will only prevent you from trying to make your marriage work.

As far as some of the holy couples you mentioned i think it had more to do that they matched in their piety levels at that particular moment in time and hence they were supposed to be together. Otherwise why would other prophets and Aima(a.s) not be with their soulmates?!

[the Neo]

Your thought-process: I see her!..... she is nice.... No.... she is smart.....No (and how can I know I havnt even talked to her yet).... she is good-looking.....oh yeah! (But but, I cant think about that yet, or that atleast shouldnt be my first impression of her).....hm..... But but, I have to have some sort of first thought/feeling after looking at her... I got it.... I LOVE HER.... yay! Love at first sight ! .... let me go tell my mama... oh shoot, I dont even know her name...... oh well.....

:)

[guest786]

how about love at first sight?

^ That 's why they say love is blind :squeez: You fall in love with them and only realize later what a big mistake you made when they show you their real FACES ! :!!!:

[Jawhara]

I think when it comes to the Holy Prophet and Bibi Khadija or Imam Ali and Sayyida Fatima (as), then there is definitely something like soulmates, because they were the ultimate creation and their bond that we learn of is beyond any of us as ordinary human beings could have or could comprehend for that matter.

However, when it comes to ordinary people, I think the concept of soul mates is fiction.

Yes you may meet someone who you love deeply and connect to, but you can meet many people who you love deeply and connect to. So yah...fiction it is -_-

Edited April 16, 2011 by Wujood

[Ya Baqiyatullah (aj)]

O Mankind! Be careful of your duty to your Lord, who created you from a single entityand created its mate of the same kind and spread from these two, many men and women; and be careful of your duty to Allah, by whom you demand one another your rights, and to the ties of relationship; surely Allah ever watches over you.(4:1)

Fatma: Allah[2] expresses that He created mankind “from a single entity” then created its mate; is “mate” in reference to the woman being created from the substance of man? Furthermore, is the Qur’an[3] implying that the creation of the woman came after the making of the man?

Sayyid: There are some Islamic scholars who assert that the man was created first, then the woman was created from the remaining substance of the man. However, by examining the above verse, Allah indicates that the woman and the man were created simultaneously, and that their creations came from the same substance. This is the meaning of “a single entity: min-nafsin waahida.” The creation of man is a dichotomy in which one body or mass was divided into two equal parts. Therefore, both genders were created from the exact substance, simultaneously, and no element in the creation of the genders is superior to the other.

Fatma: Then, to whom is Allah referring when He mentions, “and created its mate?”

Sayyid: “Its mate” refers to both the wife and to the husband. Allah affirms that, from the same entity, He created the spouses. They were not necessarily individually addressed as the wife or the husband. The Qur’an gives compelling evidence that the creation of man and woman came from one and the same material. Allah divided the genders into two equal parts. There is no precedence, superiority, or inferiority in the creation of the genders. There is equality. The Qur’an states,

“And one of His signs is that He has created for you [men and women], from your own type, spouses so that you may enjoy comfort in their company” (30:21).

Fatma: I have read in some Islamic references that Eve was created from the rib or remnants of Adam.[4] I have always associated this concept with Christian doctrine, not Islamic. What is Islam’s position regarding this issue?

Sayyid: There are some ambiguous Islamic references that claim Eve was created from the rib or remnants of Adam, but there is no substantial evidence regarding the authenticity of such references.

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(4:1)

O mankind! Be wary of your Lord who created you from a single soul, and created its mate from it, and, from the two of them, scattered numerous men and women. Be wary of Allah, in whose Name you adjure one another, and the wombs. [101]Indeed Allah is watchful over you

[OneNoteSong]

I think when it comes to the Holy Prophet and Bibi Khadija or Imam Ali and Sayyida Fatima (as), then there is definitely something like soulmates, because they were the ultimate creation and their bond that we learn of is beyond any of us as ordinary human beings could have or could comprehend for that matter.

However, when it comes to ordinary people, I think the concept of soul mates is fiction.

Yes you may meet someone who you love deeply and connect to, but you can meet many people who you love deeply and connect to. So yah...fiction it is -_-

I'm not sure I believe that only certain ppl have soulmates while others don't. That would not be just. And isn't the reason such holy people were humans is to show us that we, too, can aspire to reach such elevated levels of closeness of Him? So, I don't believe they would be different from other humans in that regard.

Edited April 16, 2011 by OneNoteSong

[Nasiba]

salaammm

ahmmmm...interesting, well i dont know yet, but i believe in love lol idk about love at first sight or soul-mate, but when you are in love, you see the person, perfect, even when you know he/she isnt perfect, you accept their imperfections. you fully accept her/him, so i think if no other person ever made u feel that way then its your soul-mate :) only lucky ppl get that chance that thou, and few its love at first sight for him/her, but well wish the rest of us luck lol! we have like -.000000007% chance lollll!

tah tah :)

[ElderWand]

Interesting topic and replies, but im pretty sure theres that hadith which people always put on wedding invites, along the lines of: Allah (swt) has planned your weddings in heaven and they are carried out on earth? Surely that would mean that He has planned who are soul Mates/parteners are on earth? Salaams x

[Layla40]

1. We all have freewill.

2. Allah swt already knows our choices.

3. So based on number 1 and 2, we would have a soul mate.

But someone could argue and say, well, if soul mate is true, then what about people who do Muta with different women for the rest of their lives and sleep around with anyone for the rest of their lives... Are all those women soul mates?

[asma0401]

I believe in soul mates because the Quran says everything was created in pairs.

[Layla40]

1. We all have freewill.

2. Allah swt already knows our choices.

3. So based on number 1 and 2, we would have a soul mate.

But someone could argue and say, well, if soul mate is true, then what about people who do Muta with different women for the rest of their lives and sleep around with anyone for the rest of their lives... Are all those women soul mates?

Answer my question ^^

[the Neo]

1. We all have freewill.

2. Allah swt already knows our choices.

3. So based on number 1 and 2, we would have a soul mate.

But someone could argue and say, well, if soul mate is true, then what about people who do Muta with different women for the rest of their lives and sleep around with anyone for the rest of their lives... Are all those women soul mates?

Muta is the death_warrant or the death bed for the concept of soul-mates, there can't b an opposing argument on this point. I bet no1 will ever find Imam Ali doing muta while her majesty, bibi Fatima (as) was with him, same goes for The Messenger (pbuh), while he was with her majesty, bibi Khateeja (as).

it would seem like WE r not a very well informed community on the issue of soulmates, given that we r the followers of the Imam ( as) who is the only doorway, to knowledge. they r imams of all matter living & nonliving, so they were/ is busy, to say the least!

So, Wen the Great Ali (a s) was challenging the world to ask him questions, only if someone had just asked. We'd hav been rather better off.

BUT it can't b that the answer to the question does not exist in the Quran and in the correctly recorded and reproduced Hadith, now it was/is up to us to look at em from this angle. We've been too busy justifying mutah, with superficial conditionalitys. :unsure: but it surely kills the concept behind soulmates.

I believe in soul mates because the Quran says everything was created in pairs.

This is a really sound argument.

Edited April 22, 2011 by Bukharisolo

[AliSaleh]

I think it can ahppen to most people. i hope to marry my soul mate soon.

[Layla40]

Muta is the death_warrant or the death bed for the concept of soul-mates, there can't b an opposing argument on this point. I bet no1 will ever find Imam Ali doing muta while her majesty, bibi Fatima (as) was with him, same goes for The Messenger (pbuh), while he was with her majesty, bibi Khateeja (as).

 it would seem like WE r not a very well informed community on the issue of soulmates, given that we r the followers of the Imam ( as) who is the only doorway, to knowledge. they r imams of all matter living & nonliving, so they were/ is busy, to say the least! 

 So, Wen the Great Ali (a s) was challenging the world to ask him questions, only if  someone had just asked. We'd hav been rather better off.

 BUT it can't b that the answer to the question does not exist in the Quran and in the correctly recorded and reproduced Hadith, now it was/is up to us to look at em from this angle.     We've been too busy justifying mutah, with superficial conditionalitys. :unsure: but it surely kills the concept behind soulmates.

This is a really sound argument.

Good answer.

Muta really does kill the concept of soul mate. Unless "multiple" soul mates exist .. o_O

[~RuQaYaH~]

(salam)

Yes I believe in soulmates in that there is one person out there whose soul resonates perfectly with the way that yours does and you are perfect together. I think the Prophet (p.) and Lady Khadija (as) and Imam Ali (as) and Lady Fatima (as) are proof of this - there's no way to describe these pairs except that they were soulmates in the sense that I have described. I also remember seeing an old couple (in their 80s) who are still as in love now as the day they got married (according to them even moreso now) and still looked at eachother in 'that way'....sweetest thing I ever saw and honestly just looking at them had an effect on the soul. This is also an interesting point:

I believe in soul mates because the Quran says everything was created in pairs.

That said, however, I don't think it's wise or healthy to be searching for your soulmate exclusively. If you find that person then count yourself as extremely lucky and extremely blessed, but it's not wise to wait until you find 'the one'. Imam Ali (as) and lady Fatima (as) may have been soulmates and perfect together but Imam Ali (as) and Ummul Baneen (as) were also amazing together and produced the noblest of children. So although there may very well be one perfect match out there for everybody, there are also plenty of very good matches with whom you can also have a fantastic relationship, be very happy and fall in love with. If someone is pious and compatible and you feel that they would bring you closer to Allah (swt) then it would be very foolish not to go with it because you're waiting for your soulmate coz the chances are that you will end up waiting forever.

Please dont quote me on this because this is through somebody else, but there was apparently a comment mentioned by a lecturer once saying that those who we 'connect' with in a positive way in this life, you know that instantaneous mutual 'buzz' ? , are very possibly souls that we were 'mates' with, 'way back when'.. We obviously cant remember that phase of our 'lives', but there is still a connection in our human form. Part of me does believes this.

Interesting, and yeah that does sound right.

A soul mate doesnt have to necessarily be husband and wife, it could also be friends. I feel that I have friends who i connected with from the word go, and even if I dont see them, heck they may not even live in the same city/state/country etc, it feels like we're on the same wavelength and pick up conversations exactly where we left off......... 6-12months ago!

Aww thanks iman, love you too ^_^. Hehe but nah I know exactly what you mean, there are some people who you just really 'click' with and there's never any awkwardness whatsoever and yep, can pick up a conversation even years later.

Allahu a`lam. Only God knows :) In the meantime, dont try searching for it, if you're meant to meet you will - and more importantly dont freak that person out and ask them what they think about soul-mates/ask if you think you both are, not on the first meeting anyway :lol:

:!!!: I second this advice.

[syeda_zaidi]

(salam)

Just to add on to the OP's question because I dont want to start a similar topic...

Does Islam say that who you're married to has been chosen for you/created for you and you will DEFINITELY end up marrying that individual who was created for you?

Someone presented Ayah 36:36 as the basis for this argument but as far as I understand that Ayah, it is a generic reference to creating everything in pairs and not restricted to humans alone. Also it does not specify that a specific individual was created FOR you and you will end up marrying that individual because you were "destined" to.

I hope I'm making some sense and can get a proper answer for this. I'm not looking for opinions. I'm looking for a substantial answer with proof.

Thanks in advance.

[Nimra]

Theres nothing like soulmate. Its just simple compatibility in marriage.

Love at first sight is not real, but I dont deny some people get attracted to others for no obvious reason, this could be vibes.

In a marriage irrespective of ones feelings towards ones partner , one has to work to make it success. This requires sacrifice and great deal of understanding and commitment in marriage.

If you love your partner then fulfilling these requirements is easy coz its from heart but if you dont then you have to shut out your heart and start your brain and do these. Hope it made sense.

[Saintly_Jinn23]

Fact! Didn't Allah created Eve out of Adam? How it Souls mates not be real?

exactly!

[asharp]

No such thing as love at first sight. It is "

Lust at first sight"

[Saintly_Jinn23]

No such thing as love at first sight. It is "

Lust at first sight"

I'm inclined to agree as well. I believe in the concept of "soul mates" but as far as love at first stuff, I don't buy it as much. I believe some people are drawn to each other naturally though and this may become love over time.

[the Neo]

(salam)

Just to add on to the OP's question because I dont want to start a similar topic...

Does Islam say that who you're married to has been chosen for you/created for you and you will DEFINITELY end up marrying that individual who was created for you?

Someone presented Ayah 36:36 as the basis for this argument but as far as I understand that Ayah, it is a generic reference to creating everything in pairs and not restricted to humans alone. Also it does not specify that a specific individual was created FOR you and you will end up marrying that individual because you were "destined" to.

I hope I'm making some sense and can get a proper answer for this. I'm not looking for opinions. I'm looking for a substantial answer with proof.

Thanks in advance.

Salam,

This is a nice observation. Bring to mind the historical accounts of the pharos of Egypt and then imagine the pharo (adopted) father of hazrat musa (as). We all know how great a lady was the queen of this particularly evil pharo. Was this match made in heaven? Were they made for each other? Did they deserve each other?

Also our last prophet, the leader of all prophets, muhammad (pbuh) had two wives who r not too well_spoken of, by God himself, in the Quran.

So marriage may not b an integral component for a person to b ur soul_mate!

Marriage, generally, seems to b more of a circumstantial occurance, rather then a devine selection of a mate. Apparently, one doesNot Definately end_up marrying ones soulmate.. Its unfair ya?

[amirafatima]

Salam,

This is a nice observation. Bring to mind the historical accounts of the pharos of Egypt and then imagine the pharo (adopted) father of hazrat musa (as). We all know how great a lady was the queen of this particularly evil pharo. Was this match made in heaven? Were they made for each other? Did they deserve each other?

Also our last prophet, the leader of all prophets, muhammad (pbuh) had two wives who r not too well_spoken of, by God himself, in the Quran.

So marriage may not b an integral component for a person to b ur soul_mate!

Marriage, generally, seems to b more of a circumstantial occurance, rather then a devine selection of a mate. Apparently, one doesNot Definately end_up marrying ones soulmate.. Its unfair ya?

I think we're missing the purpose of marriage here. Its not to live happily ever after, but its to gain nearness towards Allah. The purpose is not to feel warm and fuzzy inside. Thats why, I wouldn't be surprised if the cursed Firaun was made for his wife - the pious Aasiyah - because perhaps through that match she received such a high position in His eyes.

But obviously that wouldn't make them 'soul-mates' - it would just mean that she was placed in the ideal situation for her to gain nearness to Allah - and thats the most important thing. I really believe that everyone has this - everyone is placed in the ideal situation for them to reach perfection provided they struggle hard enough. whether you're married, single, widowed, with your soul-mate or without ...

So to conclude, perhaps we need a clearer definition of soul-mate --> can it be defined as the individual that will bring you closest to Allah? or is it that person who you connect with and can feel most comfortable with?

[the Neo]

I think we're missing the purpose of marriage here. Its not to live happily ever after, but its to gain nearness towards Allah. The purpose is not to feel warm and fuzzy inside. Thats why, I wouldn't be surprised if the cursed Firaun was made for his wife - the pious Aasiyah - because perhaps through that match she received such a high position in His eyes.

But obviously that wouldn't make them 'soul-mates' - it would just mean that she was placed in the ideal situation for her to gain nearness to Allah - and thats the most important thing. I really believe that everyone has this - everyone is placed in the ideal situation for them to reach perfection provided they struggle hard enough. whether you're married, single, widowed, with your soul-mate or without ...

So to conclude, perhaps we need a clearer definition of soul-mate --> can it be defined as the individual that will bring you closest to Allah? or is it that person who you connect with and can feel most comfortable with?

Interesting & though provoking ..

[Nimra]

But obviously that wouldn't make them 'soul-mates' - it would just mean that she was placed in the ideal situation for her to gain nearness to Allah - and thats the most important thing. I really believe that everyone has this - everyone is placed in the ideal situation for them to reach perfection provided they struggle hard enough. whether you're married, single, widowed, with your soul-mate or without ...

I firmly believe in this. The whole purpose of our life is to get near to Allah and get to know him. You put the whole thing beautifully in words. :)

So to conclude, perhaps we need a clearer definition of soul-mate --> can it be defined as the individual that will bring you closest to Allah? or is it that person who you connect with and can feel most comfortable with?

Again I say there is nothing like "soulmate", but the above two qualities you mentioned if found in a spouse then both this world and next is successful one. Although its altogether another topic that one has to work towards growing these qualities in marriage with the spouse.