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How are you supposed to connect with God while making all those useless physical movements and reciting some words? Try completely relaxing mind and body. See where that gets you. Hopefully past the illusion of duality. :wacko:

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How are you supposed to connect with God while making all those useless physical movements and reciting some words? Try completely relaxing mind and body. See where that gets you. Hopefully past the illusion of duality. :wacko:

Prayer without substance is like reading a book without understanding, there is so much more to it than you are suggesting.

You obviously don't understand the philosophy of prayer and the significance of each action.

There is a reason for prostration, a reason for raising your hands - everything has a wisdom behind it.

So please don't go insulting the main pillar of Islam.

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Salaah is a form of meditation.

How can you call the physical motions of prayer "useless?" If that's the case, then why not contemplate about God while playing basketball, or while working the cash register at work?

Obviously, some physical movements are more conducive to contemplating about God than others. So you cannot write off the physical movements of salaah as meaningless.

You say "Try completely relaxing mind and body," as if that's not what we're supposed to do during salaat.

Anyway I don't know why we are bothering to respond. You're clearly just trying to stir the pot.

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Um prayer is meditation on a much higher level...

Meditation is just emptying your mind,

Prayer is miraaj ul moomin

If you haven't felt how wonderful prayer can make you feel, then you are not trying hard enough.

Prayer let's you know your faults, and helps you realize how much harder you need to work to get hubb ad dunya out of your heart.

And the movements are definatley NOT meaningless, perhaps you should read the ahadith concerning this, you will learn alot.

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You should perhaps read this book in order to better understand the philosophy behind prayer.

Thank you so much for kindly sharing the link.

I have just one more request :

A single pdf of the book for download (I could not find one on the site) ,

but not just a crude pdf from html website,

but a little professionally made with care so that it induces the reader to read with love and care.

Please let me know if someone can do this so that I set aside a time to read this book with care and plan for it.

Thanks again in advance and Jazak Allah for the good service.

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(bismillah)

Salaah is the mi`raaj of the believer. No ma'rifa doesn't get you there, though.

Also, tafakur (contemplation) on God is also something taught by Islam.

Simply because you do not experience the clarity of Allah (swt) in your salaah, doesn't mean others, like the Ahlulbayt (as), don't.

They lived their lives as one `ibadat. Inside and Outside of Salaah, they were the same.

(salam)

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You only deny meditation because it is not consistent with the religion you were raised to believe in. It is the closest connection with God, and therefore the closest connection to everything. Astral projection, remote viewing, telepathy, clairvoyance, omniscience, etc.

Prophet Muhammad used to meditate, why can't all of you?

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(salam)

(bismillah)

How are you supposed to connect with God while making all those useless physical movements and reciting some words?

What do you mean "useless physical movements"?! And what do you mean "reciting some words"?! The Qur'aan is the kalaam (speech) of Allaah, it isn't some Shakespearian play. Choose your words wisely, before belittling one of the greatest acts of worship. Just because you haven't experienced khushoo` in your salaah, doesn't mean it is okay for you to belittle it.

(salam)

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