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Martial arts is the best I have so many medals from when I was 6-9 years old from takewondo alhamdulilah every tournament I would get 1st or 2nd place. I am doing a bunch of random martial arts now but I am going to start takewondo again in a couple of months. I think takwondo is the best form of martial arts and also it's the only one which is an Olympic sport, I can't wait to get started on that again gotta get a black belt this time. Does anybody else think takwondo is the best form?

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I've used my martial arts training for self defense twice. Everyone should become skilled in a martial art, but especially women should.

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I took tae kwon do & shotokan akijutsu when I was a kid, but I haven't done it for years. I'd like to find a good BJJ dojo and take classes there for health and character-building purposes thou

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For anyone wanting to learn internal style of martial arts which i think is the most advanced type of martial arts, then here is a great opportunity to do it online for free with hundreds of videos by a great master with proper lineage and experience. First of all teachers of this caliber and quality hardly exist. Most of the Chinese ones were killed or somehow disappeared in the "Cultural" revolution in China that saw the communist government declare war on anything cultural or old in the country. That included the old kung fu masters as well. Luckily this man managed to attain his knowledge from pre-revolutionary ways and depth. Real Kung Fu masters are a thing of movies nowadays, where the master actually knows the in-depth aspects of it all from the religious, spiritual, mental, ethical, and scientific levels.

Anyway, this great teacher is a gem few people know about, and what makes him even greater than most masters is his generosity. He shares everything he can online for free on these videos. They are not organized in a certain way, but if one wants to learn there is surely enough light for those who want to see :)

https://www.youtube.com/user/hejinghan/videos?view=0&sort=dd&shelf_id=4

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Most of modern Shaolin practice does not emphasize much on application, nor the part of meditation in nature. Here is a man called She Dejian who to me represents someone who has maintained a large part of original teachings and purpose of the mix between religion and martial arts.

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Salaam,

 

I believe that any serious martial artist must read this book, as well as other ones from this man! Masha Allah, this is the real thing, and makes me understand how the 313 can get the super powers that were predicted for them. Taoism and Islam go hand-in-hand and complement each other. 

 

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Here I am sparring with a Praying Mantis a few years ago. These servants of God are so courageous it's incredible. An average praying mantis weighs about 5 grams. If I weighed around 75 KILOgrams, that means that I am around 1000 times heavier. So that is the equivalent of me taking on a person who is 75 tons in weight. That's like challenging a land animal with the weight of a blue whale. Watch this creature attack me and not giving me its back. No wonder so many people get inspired by animals in their martial arts training. Also keep in mind that this insect does not have any poison or other special weapons. Really, I admire them and call them my masters, just like almost all other animals too.

Here is a baby one ..

so cute! :love: masha Allah

 

 

By the way these creatures are called Faras el Naby in Arabic. Faras like Salman el "Farsi" is rooted in the word knight or horse person (I'm not 100% sure about this one, maybe somebody can correct?). So they mean prophets knight in Arabic, and in German they are called Gottesanbeter, which means God-prayer .. as in one who prays to God. So those insects are truly enigmatic and beautiful to say the least.  

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I took tae kwon do & shotokan akijutsu when I was a kid, but I haven't done it for years.

I'd like to find a good BJJ dojo and take classes there for health and character-building purposes though. Not any reputable ones around.

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Lately I've been training purely in a quarrying site that I created in the garden where we basically dug out a trench. I feel that this is the core workout I've been waiting for God to send me all my life! The ultimate workout! You use the pick like a sword or battle hammer to reach the front and back core, as well as full body serious conditioning, then the shoveling is twisting the waist part as well as full body and especially legs work out mashalah. Reminds me of imam Ali and the first prophets during the preparation of the siege of medina, and also my great-grand father who was sent for years to a communist labour camp and probably had to go through this. Also it became clear to me why imam Ali was such a formidable warrior: he did agriculture labour work all the time, which is basically using these tools, that are probably the best sword fighting practices one can do. It's probably better than practicing with an actual sword. Others who thought themselves too posh for such an occupation would only learn with a sword every now and then, but not reach anywhere near the pain and agony of making a ditch. I hope that one day I can have the honour to dig my own grave, instead of buying it ready made in sha allah. It's the ultimate meditation. 

But for those who want to try it at home or anywhere possible, be ready to take it slowly, and do a little bit with long breaks in between. Perhaps days or even weeks, to give the lower back a chance to recover from the new and very intense movements. Getting sore in the lower back isn't fun and feels very worrisome, especially because one always wonders if the disks are ok. Lower back is the most sensitive and important part of the body, so be careful. 

My other excuse for digging a hole is also for compost.

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On 3/20/2020 at 8:24 PM, OmarEl said:

I've performed martial arts for a while now. I specialised in Krav Maga for about 2 years and Muay Thai for about 3 months. I didn't like Muay Thai much because it hurt my shins haha

You are doing the technique wrong, it shouldn't hurt. Don't kick with with shin, but with the side of the shin, where there's a nice flat piece of meat, and use the pointy shin just as the edge of the impact area. Swing the leg like a base ball bat using your hip from up to down so it's like a parabolical motion. At first it seems retarded until you are at the receiving end. Also practice on soft objects like trash containers and use the knees as well the same way and try to find the parts around your knees that don't hurt when kicking a door frame for instance. 

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Before COVID, used to practice BJJ and kickboxing. Now I just go to the gym and lift weights. 

Personally, I think there's a ton of benefits that come from picking up a martial art. You can say that martial arts can be included into your general spiritual practice believe it or not. Primarily because martial arts force you to become more aware of every inch of your body, becoming a bit of a meditative practice. 

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Al Salaam Alaikum,

How are you dear brothers and sisters? Hope you are all well.

After having posted several posts on this thread concerning Quranic relevant verses, I believe that this one is the most important one so far:

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"Our Lord, pour upon us patience and plant firmly our feet and give us victory over the disbelieving people."

 رَبَّنَا أَفْرِغْ عَلَيْنَا صَبْرًا وَثَبِّتْ أَقْدَامَنَا وَانصُرْنَا عَلَى الْقَوْمِ الْكَافِرِينَ - 2:250

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I suggest very strongly that these Arabic words you all memorize in its original language, and say it in each and every prayer you make.

Martial arts isn't just a visible physical fighting art, but it happens mostly on an invisible level. Currently I have legal battles against enemies whom God has protected me against on the physical level, although I am sure that they want me dead. 

This verse is related to the 313 directly, as it relates to the 313 of Prophet Solomon (عليه السلام) as he was going to fight against Galut, or Goliath, who is the equivalent of Sufiani of today. So, this verse is direct relation and use for us today. 

It shows;

1 - Importance and first priority of patience. Most of the fight happens in the soul during the waiting. Even physical wars are mostly spent in waiting. Waiting while driving or riding to the battlefield. Waiting in formation. Waiting for the next step of the battle or war. In the meantime patience is also critical to maintain a clear mind that is vital for remembrance of God, as well as taking balanced and measured strategic decisions.

2 - Planting feet or standing ones ground, is not just a physical thing. It is also a spiritual act of standing for what one believes, and the term aqdam is till today used for feet. Planting the feet is so important. For anybody who has ever been in a 'real' fight, will notice these things: The air gets heavy, and the knees get wobbly. The legs get somehow insecure in fights, and I guess it must be linked to the side effects of an adrenaline overdose. It could be also simply a natural pre-emptive pain killer, that makes sure you don't feel anything if you get injured in your fight-or-flight. So we don't feel our knees that hold up our bodies, and it makes it extremely difficult to navigate our bodies around. While being in a calm and safe state of mind, it is very easy to move - like during peaceful times in training - but during danger times, we often even stop breathing. There are tricks to decrease this effect, other than using this dua, like consciously control the breathing as deeply as possible, and of course above all thinking of God, as well as not looking directly into the eyes of the enemy, but rather looking at their third eye, between the eye brows. This will make them insecure without them knowing why. At the same time you will be safe from their spiritual poison arrows that people send each other via the eyes. 

The term qadam also has other dimensions and meanings in the Quran. Not only is one of the Names of Allah, al Muqaddim - The Advancer - but there are other uses as well that can be interpreted to include more than just the feet, but all our extremities, as well as any extension of ours that is moving forwards, like a projectile or any other weapon that is an extension of us. This is my own interpretation of this, and i don't believe others have seen it this way on the internet anyway, and if you can find more interpretations of the same or similar, then please share!

The opposite of al Muqadim is al Muakhar, or the Delayer. If we are late, then we are muta'akhareen. That is in use today among most all Arabs. So in context of this, the holy name al-Muqadim, is also kind of like the remedy and merci in relation to waiting and the need of patience. It is the advancement of time itself, and moving on to the next level, which always will be a victory as long as one keeps God in mind the right way, in sha Allah.

Another term used to describe this root word application is 'send forth'. If you hand in an exam at uni, the you are betqaddim al exam. So again, it could be seen as tathbeet, or solidifying of our plans, intentions, all the way to weapons including our hands, and even battle cries, or looks that can kill. By the way, I read predictions saying that when Jesus (عليه السلام) returns in sha Allah, he will kill his nemesis the dajjal with one look.

In the context of an army leader, aqdam also could be seen as the people at the front, or all 'limbs' of the army. In martial arts the legs are almost more important than the arms. You can fight with one arm out of service for instance, but without one leg is very difficult. Also, most of the power of any strike comes directly from the ground through the gates in the body via the legs and gravity, whipping towards the arms. You can head butt, push or strike with your shoulders, etc. Legs are what holds up the spine and head above ground. 

Ironically, another use of the word QDM is for meaning of old. Some Arabs today would refer to an old man as Rajul Qadeem, for instance. In this context we are the ones who are ahead and at the tip of the extremities of time. So to firm our old, could again have countless interpretations, including the blessed among our forefathers, the fruit of our past actions, and a success of our previously planned schemes. Those schemes could go back a split second, or generations, and ideally both.

The word thabit, does not only mean firm, but it is also used in context to proof. When you say 'prove this or prove that', one way of saying is ethbit this or ethbit that. So there can be an indirect link between winning in battle and proving our past, our future, our extensions, our stance, our positions, our strategies, our plans, our approach, our motivation, our spirit, etc. Spirit is also free and is more important than anything. Every physical weapon or attribute has spiritual and invisible counterparts. Those are directed by the mind that is located mostly between the eye brows near the pineal gland, and then the strategy that basically controls this is breath. Directing concentrated thought and then propelling it with breath ends up in invisible torpedoes or healing gifts, depending on the positive or negative intention. But for creatures who seek to die - or be killed - as Muslims, those thoughts must always be linked directly to Allah and the cause of the Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)), and in general to the Truth.

3 - Ansurna 'ala qawm el Kafireen, personally I feel this one is so important. The word Kufr means rejecting. Actually to them we are the kafir, because we reject their truth, which is falsehood to us. So while we say this part of the verse, we must know and keep in mind that this Kufr is in direct relation to the Prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) and God. We fight people who are transgressing them, and not for our own egos or our own pride. That is why Imam Ali (عليه السلام) did not fight against those that he did not bless as true Caliphs, because he knew that this is God's fight, and He had predicted through the likes of Angel Gabriel (عليه السلام), that this fight will be fought in 11 generations of the spiritual lineage, and not his. He definitely was eager to control the situation and fight all those usurpers now, but he had to wait. This fight needs patience that spans many generations and actually started with Iblis refusing to prostrate towards Adam. And as is proven in the Quran, this fight is not between us and Iblis, but it is between Iblis and God. Those of us who chose to follow God, are simply fighting for God, and His victory. If we love God, then God's victory is our victory, because we would be among the party (hezb) Allah! The proof in the Quran that this fight is between iblis and God directly, is the verse that clearly shows iblis saying along the lines of: "because you made me stray, I will lie in wait on the straight path among the Adamites and make them stray". Then God said: "Fine, but you have no authority over those who are my servants." Because Iblis can not harm God directly, he choses his closest and highest ranking creature instead.

So the term Kafirun are those who reject Gods' commands, limitations and covenant. That is why in the Noble Quran it is written how God says (paraphrasing again): "it was not you who slayed them, but it was Me who slayed them", "It was not you who threw (arrows), but it was me who threw them", "It was not you who struck, but it was me who struck them". So it is just being God's vessel to eliminate and confront (front = qodam) something that has nothing to do with us. This fight is between God and satan. We are just serving one or the other.

Say this prayer every day, every prayer, and while walking around, sitting and sleeping. I believe that this is among the most important duas of this day-and-age, especially for those who are picking up their God-given duty of struggling and fighting in the name of God on all levels they can. I truly believe that those who consciously do not fight without an excuse, will go to hell. It's not an option, it is fard! It is obligatory according to the Quran to fight, and this fight happens on all levels. The spiritual/mental/intellectual level is the most important. But we have to be ready to defend on a physical one too, especially the men among us, as women have become exempt according to our prophet ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) from physical defense. 

- For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12

.. Those spiritual forces in the heavens and earth, are connected to physical/visible forces on earth, so they are connected. But as Imam Ali said: "our biggest enemy is ignorance", and ignorance is more of a spiritual and mental reality.

Thanks,

labayka ya Hussain

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the Vital Importance of Animal Spirits in Martial Arts

According to our holy book, Allah created us 'weak'. If you look around you in nature, you will find that all animals are much stronger than us pound-for-pound, and that if it wasn't for our tools, we could never hunt or survive without weapons. Put any man into a cage with a 20 Kilogram dog, and 99.99% of them will not come out alive, as long as they don't have at least a rock or staff to use as a weapon. An 80 Kilogram cat can probably finish us off with the stroke of their left little pinky finger. We stand no chance against animals. They are simply faster, stronger, harder, sturdier, and better at fighting. Genetically speaking us humans are all retarded and very faulty in comparison to animals. 

So in order to tap into someone stronger than us, other than Allah - whom we can never imagine - we imagine animals while fighting. This is called animal styles among modern martial arts practitioners, and it works to a certain extent by somehow becoming an animal to a certain extent by morphing into and blending into the spirit of this animal.

Currently the best MMA fighter on earth is Khabib who calls himself the Eagle. Mohamed Ali won his fights while imagining himself floating like a butterfly and stinging like a bee. The greatest fighter to have fought in history of mankind up till now is Ameer Al Mu'mineen Imam Ali bin Abi Taleb, and we all know the story of how he is called Lion of Allah. His name is also Haydar, which I think his mother gave him in his early youth based on his spirit. 

Each person created by God has his or her own animal that mostly resonates with their bodily and spiritual physique. There are many countless animals that people unite with on a spiritual level in order to achieve super human abilities. 

Jackie Chan is a true master of martial arts who has in many instances proved his ability of 'acting' to really channel several different spirits. Here is one of my favorite Jacky Chan movies, Snake in The Eagles Shadow - Hong Kong, 1978:

and these training scenes from the above movie really give a good example of how he came in touch with the snake skill to transfer it into his life skills:

While snake is probably the softest and weakest of the animals styles, there are opposite styles like the Tiger style that are a whole different style. The Crane is an example of an animal style that is both yin and yang, and is the preferred style of many wise people. There are insects too, like the praying mantis style, and the above movie is a blend of snake and a newly developed cat style. Bruce Lee is known in China as Siu-lung, which is Little Dragon (Dragons are a major theme in Bruce Lee's work, such as the famous movie Enter the Dragon ). Dragons are considered a very real creature in the Chinese world, and some say that they are closely related to the Jinn spirit. Here is a description for Dragon, from the book Shaolin Five Animals Kung-Fu, by Doc-Fai Wong and Jane Hallander, 1988:

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Dragon (Long Xing)

The Chinese dragon is no relation to the Western world's fire-breathing dragon or to any prehistoric dinosaurlike beast. It is strictly a product of spiritual beliefs and is listed in Buddhist text as a supernatural animal that can appear or disappear at will, and make itself any size.
According to Buddhist writings, dragons live in oceans. Since dragons live in large bodies of water, their association with the rest of the world is through water. If a dragon wishes to become visible, anyone can see him. If not, then only those who have reached a high level of enlightenment can view this special animal. The Chinese also believe dragons produce rain, and when they do decide to make themselves visible, they're seen on clouds.

Chinese dragons have snakelike bodies covered in scales. They also have lizardlike arms and legs which end in sharp claws. The head resembles a serpent's. Since Shaolin martial arts are derived from Buddhist origins, the dragon was a perfect candidate to represent one of the five animals.

As with the mythical namesake, Shaolin dragon-style fighting transcends the easily understood real world of external martial arts and enters the spiritual world of internal strength and power. 

The dragon represents internal strength, although it does have some external training benefits. Since dragons are not actual living beasts, many dragon techniques are variations of the characteristics of other kung-fu animals.For instance, dragon movements are soft and circular, similar to , but not exactly like, those of the snake.

However, dragon techniques should not be confused with those of the Shaolin snake. Although both are lizardlike, the snake has no legs, while the dragon's claws form an important element of its fighting style.

While Shaolin snake techniques contain more soft coiling actions and fingertip strikes, dragon techniques are represented by soft circular movements that terminate with hard sudden power. Therefore, the snake exhibits only soft power, while the dragon uses a force that represents a combination of both hard and soft training. 

Since Chinese dragons have claws, the Shaolin dragon from possess a claw-hand technique that is sometimes confused with the tiger claw version. However, the dragon claw hand ( long zhua ) is a grab, while a tiger claw ( hu zhua ) is a squeezing, tearing motion. Also, unlike the tiger variety, dragon claws are not downward ripping techniques. Instead they are softer, more circular, and primarily locking or pulling techniques.

The primary hand technique displayed in the dragon form is the claw ( long zhua ). Not all dragon hand movements are claw hands. There also are palm and fist attacks. However, the claw is the most often used hand technique. Dragon claws are characteristically flat claw hands designed for grabbing harms, ears, and other extremities.

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Then one can also tap into other natural phenomena to strengthen ones potential. One can channel the power of thunder, or crashing waves for instance. One can be a storm or even an earthquake. One of my favorite horses that I ever rode was called Zilzal. He truly was like an earthquake when he ran, and had a very earth quake-like appearance and radiation masha Allah. I miss him, as he passed away some years ago.

Each one of us Allah lovers would do good by finding what animals interest us the most, and try to learn from them and channel from them. Each one has a lesson for us, just like any creature in the heavens and the earth. 

Thanks, wa labayka ya Hussein!

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What is the ideal body for a warrior?

 

al Salaam Alaikum,

This topic is really confusing for most of us who want to prepare for a potential fight, so many people will strive towards being able to lift more in weight, or having bigger bodies. This is especially in fashion nowadays, with the idea of a fight being imagined by most as the standards of sports competitions of the martial arts. When fighting in a closed predictable ring without weapons, so many variables are taken away, that things like physical strength, weight and size start to matter most. In sports competitions there is also no moral high ground for either side, which takes away from the spiritual dimension of the fight. 

When it comes to 'real' fights, the best historically recorded fighter is doubtless Ameer al Mu'mineen Ali bin Abi Taleb. He has obviously fought in all dimensions, including intellectual debates, and maintaining purity, however, when it comes to the minor Jihad of physical warfare, he was the best ever. He is the most legendary in context to numbers, contexts and accurate accounts. There are some amazing military thinkers like Alexander the Great, or Ceasar, but they didn't have the extreme situations like many duels, and the insane unequal numbers, and the extremely uneven odds. 

According to this narration from Nahjul Balagha we get an idea that Imam Ali was more into quality of muscles, tendons, fascia, nerves, bones, etc, rather than quantity:

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I am sure some of you would say that if the son of Abu Taalib eats so little and lives on starvation, then surely he must have gone weak and exhausted and must be unfit to face his enemies in battlefields. But you must remember that hardy trees which grow on the border of deserts have very strong timber; and trees which are found in marshy lands have thin bark and soft wood, similarly when the former are lit up they burn longer and with a very strong glow and give out more heat than the latter.

Letter to Uthman bin Hunayf was the Governor of Basra.

he is talking about a hardy body. He is talking about the internal reality of his body and how dense his body is. When people pump iron and becomes "beasts", they actually set themselves up to become like balloons that are bulky and big, but without density. In Chinese wisdom such are described as being under the risk of suffering from energy dispersion, once they stop working out. This develops to fat and other problems. We need natural, flexible and compact bodies, that can be more effective than somebody who is bulky and big. For one, they are faster bodies that can do more of the whipping motion that works well in real life. They are smaller targets for strikes, and move faster on their feat. Obviously a lighter person is faster than somebody who is built like a fridge. It might be better for a ring, because there is nowhere to go, to retreat, to regroup, and attack again, but in real life it is different. People like Imam Ali are better suited bodies. 

And even if you look at MMA nowadays, the top fighters look rather thin for their frames. The heavyweight champion of the world in the UFC today is a croatian guy who is proportionally big, but actually doesn't look "buff", or like a "beast". The super strong men who carry big stones and pull trucks don't stand a chance against this skinny looking guy called Stepe Miocic. The same goes for Mohamed Ali as a boxer, and Khabib Nurmagomedov. They look relatively thin. And in the real world one can be even thinner looking, and a formidable fighter. I think it was Imam Ali who said "Strength does not lie in carrying heavy loads. Camels can do that. Strength lies in controlling your temper." Here again, you see the emphasis on the internal. Controlling temper means also controlling diet, controlling a healthy life style, controlling ones activities, ones sleep, ones prayers, etc. And let me tell you that Islamic prayer is the best exercise ever, in my opinion, and I have proof for it.

And to go back to earlier posts on this thread, the emphasis is primarily on the relationship and reliance upon Allah. If you are the type who lives a lifestyle of relying and remembering God all the time, then you already have a head start, and will find yourself being guided by God into forming an equivalent mind and body. A body and mind is a product of our activities. Same goes for our souls. So, somebody like Imam Ali will not be ashamed to perform tasks that are usually only done by poorer people, like agriculture work, or cleaning and labour work. So he had a naturally good body that got more dense through activities like using agriculture tools. Imam Ali had the perks of a peasant body while having the perks of an educated body at the same time. So he had the best of two worlds, and it resulted in the best fighter of mankind in terms of achievements up till today, masha Allah

Allahuma sali ala Muhamad wa aala aali Muhamad

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11 hours ago, Qasim.Ali said:

What does Shia Islam say about self-defense with a weapon? Such as ax or hammer

Our greatest weapon is dua to Allah. Axes and hammers aren't really traditionally Arab weapons, but more among celts and Vikings for instance. 

But a weapon is a weapon, and they serve the purpose. The question is rather how, when, where, and against whom we use the weapons. For training, axes and hammers are lots of fun. 

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2 hours ago, Allah Seeker said:

Our greatest weapon is dua to Allah. Axes and hammers aren't really traditionally Arab weapons, but more among celts and Vikings for instance. 

But a weapon is a weapon, and they serve the purpose. The question is rather how, when, where, and against whom we use the weapons. For training, axes and hammers are lots of fun. 

Celts didn't really use hammers, they were more into spears, swords, clubs or horsemanship. Hammers are emblematic of Germanic cultures, especially the Vikings (e.g. Swedes, Norwegians, Icelanders, and Danes)

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2 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

Celts didn't really use hammers, they were more into spears, swords, clubs or horsemanship. Hammers are emblematic of Germanic cultures, especially the Vikings (e.g. Swedes, Norwegians, Icelanders, and Danes)

The pre roman europeans were  closely related. When I searched Celtic warhammer i found many examples.

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The Celtic Warriors’ Weapons
The Celts used a multiplicity of ancient weapons, which is probably due to their warrior culture. Distance combat weapons were javelins, harpoons, bows and slings. The stones of the slings were usually taken out of rivers, since these were well formed by the current. In addition, one must say that javelins were not necessarily the primary weapons of a warrior; many close-in engagement troops additionally carried thrown weapons. Young warriors fought usually with primitive javelins, slings and bows, while well-crafted pila or harpoon-type javelins were carried by Celtic champions. The Gaesatae, a group of Celtic warriors from the Alps, are said to have used poison on their ranged weapons. In late ancient times, the Picts already used light crossbows. As close-range weapons, spears, two-hand hammers, axes and swords would be used. 

http://www.ancientmilitary.com/celtic-warriors.htm

The most famous hammer for war is the hammer of Thor. From what I understand the Germanic also had a relation to Thor.

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16 minutes ago, Allah Seeker said:

From what I understand the Germanic also had a relation to Thor

Yes, the Germans had the equivalent of Donar (e.g. Thursday in English, Donnerstag in German, Donderdag in Dutch, Thunder in English, Donner in German, Donder in Dutch.)

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40 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

Yes, the Germans had the equivalent of Donar (e.g. Thursday in English, Donnerstag in German, Donderdag in Dutch, Thunder in English, Donner in German, Donder in Dutch.)

Nice one, and Donner means thunder in German. I have a puppy dog called Thunder.

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My martial arts path:

  • 5-15y: Shotokan Karate --> Very good martial arts for kids to learn discipline and basic stances
  • 15-17y: Aikido --> Honestly consider it a useless martial art but still learned from it and it's a sport so there's that
  • 17y-Now: English and Kick-boxing: I'm a Moroccan son. Kickboxing is in our blood.
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1 hour ago, Berber-Shia said:

Does anyone here have any experience with archery? I wanna to learn it but I don't know which bow would be good for a beginner.

I SO want to learn as well! I love it! I asked my wife to get me the equipment (I don't care which one as long as it's good quality so it doesnt mess up and cause an accident or go astray), so let's see if next bday is the day. There's a hadith saying that the prophet said: teach ur kids three things, swimming, remaya (literally throwing, which is everything from throwing rocks to shooting guns), and rukub el kheil (horse back riding and in today's age that would include driving cars and maybe bicycles, etc.). I think to buy and have archery sets is perfectly legal without a licence or anything. You just need the space.

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51 minutes ago, Berber-Shia said:

My martial arts path:

  • 5-15y: Shotokan Karate --> Very good martial arts for kids to learn discipline and basic stances
  • 15-17y: Aikido --> Honestly consider it a useless martial art but still learned from it and it's a sport so there's that
  • 17y-Now: English and Kick-boxing: I'm a Moroccan son. Kickboxing is in our blood.

That's lovely mashalah. I also started with karate when I was a small kid (about 9 years old), and after I failed the orange belt I quit and became a runner, then a swimmer and mountain biker.  Then after finishing uni I went back to martial arts (muay thai and shaolin kung fu simultarously by Chance of God) again, and that was 17 years ago, of basically being obsessed with it, with the Grace and Protection and Love of God alhamdulilah. 

I have two passions in life.  One is religion, the other is marital arts. 

The other talents I have I am not so in love with as those two.

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What Marital Arts Should You Do?

Al Salaam Alaikum,

Hope you are all healthy and well! This is question that most guys ask themselves when they consider learning how to defend themselves. In my humble fallible and limited opinion, I believe it compulsory for every man to learn how to defend themselves. It is a natural thing to do, and even animals train fighting skills by playing. With women I feel it is rather optional, as they are exempt from the duty of physical defense. Before getting married I believe that being able to defend ones family is more important than having money or a furnished home with a car. Of course this does not count for any man who has a good excuse not to train self defense, but even those in wheelchairs can learn self defense in various forms. Anyway, now what? What if we want to decide which martial art to practice?

First of all, the purpose of learning martial arts is self defense in real life situations. These situations can only happen in the future, and past incidences will most likely never repeat exactly the way they did. Therefore, ideally we should prepare for an unknown future event. It makes it impossible to know what skill exactly you will need, as you can never know for sure what will happen, if anything will happen to start with. Some guy might think that MMA is the best thing to train, because he watches UFC matches, but the reality might be that in the future he might be in a setting where he has to fight multiple opponents, but has access to a stick that is lying around the area. Now the Kendo he learned years ago might come in more handy than BJJ, Wrestling, Boxing and Muay Thai. Another guy might be working as a chef while a robbery takes place at the restaurant, and then he will be grateful to have studied Kali Filippino knife fighting skills. But the other guy who studied Kali while being attacked while he is unarmed in the subway might be grateful for having trained boxing or wing Chun. 

How can we know what we should train? We can't! But one thing that can give us an indication is simply what attracts us, as well as opportunities. You might be living in an area where there is only one clean and good quality school, and it happens to teach classical Judo. Then Allah is making the choice for you. Maybe you feel you're not the athletic type, and the only fighting art that attracts you is playing around with slingshots in a safe area. Or, maybe you really love MMA and feel attracted to this sport, then you should probably pick it up at some point. Follow your intuition and what God sends you - that's my opinion. And then hopefully whatever God choses for you via affection toward it, and by created chances for you, will be best to win, prevent or at least to be able to put up a good fight in the future - if need be -, with the Grace of God.

Thanks labayka ya Hussein

 

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On 9/25/2020 at 3:59 PM, Allah Seeker said:

What is the ideal body for a warrior?

 

al Salaam Alaikum,

This topic is really confusing for most of us who want to prepare for a potential fight, so many people will strive towards being able to lift more in weight, or having bigger bodies. This is especially in fashion nowadays, with the idea of a fight being imagined by most as the standards of sports competitions of the martial arts. When fighting in a closed predictable ring without weapons, so many variables are taken away, that things like physical strength, weight and size start to matter most. In sports competitions there is also no moral high ground for either side, which takes away from the spiritual dimension of the fight. 

When it comes to 'real' fights, the best historically recorded fighter is doubtless Ameer al Mu'mineen Ali bin Abi Taleb. He has obviously fought in all dimensions, including intellectual debates, and maintaining purity, however, when it comes to the minor Jihad of physical warfare, he was the best ever. He is the most legendary in context to numbers, contexts and accurate accounts. There are some amazing military thinkers like Alexander the Great, or Ceasar, but they didn't have the extreme situations like many duels, and the insane unequal numbers, and the extremely uneven odds. 

According to this narration from Nahjul Balagha we get an idea that Imam Ali was more into quality of muscles, tendons, fascia, nerves, bones, etc, rather than quantity:

Letter to Uthman bin Hunayf was the Governor of Basra.

he is talking about a hardy body. He is talking about the internal reality of his body and how dense his body is. When people pump iron and becomes "beasts", they actually set themselves up to become like balloons that are bulky and big, but without density. In Chinese wisdom such are described as being under the risk of suffering from energy dispersion, once they stop working out. This develops to fat and other problems. We need natural, flexible and compact bodies, that can be more effective than somebody who is bulky and big. For one, they are faster bodies that can do more of the whipping motion that works well in real life. They are smaller targets for strikes, and move faster on their feat. Obviously a lighter person is faster than somebody who is built like a fridge. It might be better for a ring, because there is nowhere to go, to retreat, to regroup, and attack again, but in real life it is different. People like Imam Ali are better suited bodies. 

And even if you look at MMA nowadays, the top fighters look rather thin for their frames. The heavyweight champion of the world in the UFC today is a croatian guy who is proportionally big, but actually doesn't look "buff", or like a "beast". The super strong men who carry big stones and pull trucks don't stand a chance against this skinny looking guy called Stepe Miocic. The same goes for Mohamed Ali as a boxer, and Khabib Nurmagomedov. They look relatively thin. And in the real world one can be even thinner looking, and a formidable fighter. I think it was Imam Ali who said "Strength does not lie in carrying heavy loads. Camels can do that. Strength lies in controlling your temper." Here again, you see the emphasis on the internal. Controlling temper means also controlling diet, controlling a healthy life style, controlling ones activities, ones sleep, ones prayers, etc. And let me tell you that Islamic prayer is the best exercise ever, in my opinion, and I have proof for it.

And to go back to earlier posts on this thread, the emphasis is primarily on the relationship and reliance upon Allah. If you are the type who lives a lifestyle of relying and remembering God all the time, then you already have a head start, and will find yourself being guided by God into forming an equivalent mind and body. A body and mind is a product of our activities. Same goes for our souls. So, somebody like Imam Ali will not be ashamed to perform tasks that are usually only done by poorer people, like agriculture work, or cleaning and labour work. So he had a naturally good body that got more dense through activities like using agriculture tools. Imam Ali had the perks of a peasant body while having the perks of an educated body at the same time. So he had the best of two worlds, and it resulted in the best fighter of mankind in terms of achievements up till today, masha Allah

Allahuma sali ala Muhamad wa aala aali Muhamad

I wish I could find a book on this, Islamic advice on physical strength and fitness. 

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22 hours ago, Berber-Shia said:

Shotokan Karate

I did Kyokushin Karate for four years it really helped with conditioning, I am currently doing Boxing more as a hobby, but may get into Kickboxing/MMA in the future 

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I'll be honest, as much as I am a admirer of traditional Kung Fu (big fan of Shaw brothers movies btw) I do not think they are effective as self-defense arts, at least not in our era (look at Xu Xiaodong). Though they offer a lot of wisdom in terms of control of the body and mind, and effectively serve as a form of meditation, they could not hold against the effectiveness and efficiency of the MMA sports. If one is looking for maximizing his self defense skills; Striking and Grappling are what one should master.

Striking:

- Hands and Arms: Traditional (English) Boxing / MuayThai for elbows 

- Legs: MuayThai, Kickboxing or Taekwondo

Grappling:

- Any form of wrestling and BJJ

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12 minutes ago, Berber-Shia said:

I'll be honest, as much as I am a admirer of traditional Kung Fu (big fan of Shaw brothers movies btw) I do not think they are effective as self-defense arts, at least not in our era (look at Xu Xiaodong). Though they offer a lot of wisdom in terms of control of the body and mind, and effectively serve as a form of meditation, they could not hold against the effectiveness and efficiency of the MMA sports. If one is looking for maximizing his self defense skills; Striking and Grappling are what one should master.

Striking:

- Hands and Arms: Traditional (English) Boxing / MuayThai for elbows 

- Legs: MuayThai, Kickboxing or Taekwondo

Grappling:

- Any form of wrestling and BJJ

Yes I know that is what it looks like. Chinese Kung Fu is the origin of jiu jitsu and karate as well as all other striking, grappling and wrestling arts that you find in the region. The reason being that China is culturally speaking the older brother there, so for instance Japan gets its writing from China. Most martial arts in Japan and the region are very young compared to chinese styles that can go back thousands of years of established lineages. I used to train a type of art that is called Tong Bei, which is actually based on a white giant Yeti that used to roam around the wilderness while it was first established. And just like what happens to any old tradition and wisdom, it fades with time and gets corrupted. If one does not look beyond the surface and mainstream information about kung fu, it will be like a non Muslim reading about Islam, and thinking it's not compatible with today's modern world. It's the same thing exactly. What I have benefited from kung fu training is beyond description and is thanks to Allah. Muay Thai by the way is also originally developed in Buddhist temples and is very ancient, but also corrupt. 

Anyway,  Xu Xisodong never faced a real kung fu master, in my opinion. The guys he faced were ignorant, weak, and stupid fools, who make me wonder if it's all just an act. Modern MMA is extremely predictable and shallow, so any serious master would have been able to predict with high precision what it would be like to face a western boxer who can wrestle. They look totally unprepared, which in itself proves that they are fake.  

In any case, a real marital arts master won't step into a ring for fame and fortune, but will save their skills for a real unpredictable fight, while hoping it won't happen. We learn to fight, in order not to fight, or to minimize fights, as we want peace. Any serious, and seasoned martial artist will never show their skills except to someone they consider a son, and in Chinese culture those students are called internal students. Usually after many years of almost begging a teacher and above all proving your moral qualities, will a master teach you the secrets of how to physically hurt as well as heal a person. Those two are linked and work the same way. If Jesus (عليه السلام) wanted to, he could have killed a lot of people.

So if you are referring to the commercialized, readily available kung fu that you find in the kung fu school around the corner, it will most likely be good for your health, and maybe a good preparation for true combat skills, including competitions such as MMA. But if you dig deep and search for the original hidden combat aspect of Kung Fu, and throw away all the useless stuff, then it's much more diverse and higher quality than modern MMA, which is like fast food somehow. But any serious martial artist must study all those tested styles and learn from them. But they won't step into a ring, even if they feel superior to competitors, because that is modern day gladiator sport, that defeats the purpose of self defense. You have to fight with someone, and you can hurt them, but not too much. You can't kill them. And the people you fight against actually did nothing to deserve it, which makes it very unrealistic and not islamic. Why should I beat this guy up in the ring? What is the purpose of it? If you want to fight me, then join the sufiani satanic forces or something, and maybe some day we will meet in the battle field. That makes sense, but the measuring stick of unarmed half-naked men inside a little cage isn't an indication of real life. In real life you have uneven and infinitely variable terrains and variables, including potential weapons, escape routes, dimensions for manoeuvring, different spirits, etc. So even a guy training corrupt kung fu could win a fight against a UFC champion, if he's got the fighter spirit and highest moral ground, and the support of Allah. Maybe there are guns involved, which would make the long fist kung fu acrobat have an edge with better reflexes and agility for instance. Better speed. So i believe it to be wrong to judge one martial art as better than another. The question is which one is better for you at this moment in time and space, and each person has their own path, and could have their own martial art that suits them best for their own unique future and challenges. We can't predict the future,and what we need. Maybe a guy who can do a butterfly kick is better suited for avoiding a truck one day, than a boxer, who naturally stands his ground more. So that kung fu fighter might have trained a seemingly useless style of martial arts all his life, just for this one moment where he had to save himself and an old lady from a crazy truck driver who fell asleep on the wheel. 

If you study pure combat moves from arts like Krav Maga or other hand-to-hand combat skills, you will find that Shaw Brothers movies actually have lots of very legit moves that are just portrayed in a rather dancing manner. But some of those movies you can break down and analyse with your friend, and get a lot out of. Some of these moves that look ridiculous are actually real moves that are highly effective and some are even lethal. They don't even hide those moves! But obviously they dont really do them, as they are being choreographed by masters who know these moves- while they probably are doing it for the first time for the screen - and its show business. It is supposed to be entertaining. Also keep in mind that most pro sports competitions are also for the purpose of entertainment and gambling. That's why so often fighters will hug after the fight and talk about how they hope that they entertained the fans. 

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