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Martial Arts in Dreams

Al Salaam Alaikum,

Before getting into self defense training, I used to have nightmares where I would be chased by creatures and attacked, and sometimes felt the need to hide. Also, when I used to try to escape, I would sometimes feel that I couldn't move, and that my strikes are in slow motion. After I started getting into martial arts my dreams reversed and thanks to Allah my nightmares became 'fun'. I would wake up after meeting monsters and fighting with them - in a good mood. I felt happy that I could defend myself against the weirdest looking creatures, and it would be like an action movie with happy ending.

So learning to defend yourself in this world will lead to a change in your attitude, lifestyle, and reflexes in all other worlds as well. In the dream world you can often fly as well - by the way - just by thinking of it. At the same time, when you walk the streets you emit a different aura, and people are less likely to pick on you. Learning martial arts is like learning a language. Without training it, you feel in a fight like you are helpless and don't know how to communicate. Fighting is a form of communication, and in China some call it 'talking hands'. There is something like an alphabet to self defense that each person has to figure out for themselves, and program their minds how they would react to certain situations. It becomes part of your nervous system memory and reflex ark, that reacts faster than your brain can control. By default you will know what to do exactly. One of the last times that I was in a fight, was in the middle of a traffic crossing, against two non-martial artists, and I was partly wrong, which made hurting them not an option. My mistake was stupidly screaming a dirty insult against their mothers at the top of my lungs in front of a huge crowd of cars and people, after they crossed a crossing against the traffic police, and forced me to break while I was driving. So, when we all got out of the car and they started swinging their hands against me, I felt like I was in my garage, and my neighboring friend was just sparring with me. So my hands were just defending and at one point just imitated them and swung around like in a swimming motion. In my mind I knew that I could not use an arsenal of moves and attacks that I was capable of doing, although I could clearly feel the arsenal potential being there. So this holding back made me very confident and at a higher moral ground, and at the same time I was very much aware of the space around me, making me feel much safer, than if I had not trained countless hours and prepared for self defense. So there I was in a real fight against some idiots who had no idea what they were doing, and were simply in a rage wanting to hurt me. I had the situation thankfully totally under control thanks to God alone, while I was detached emotionally, just seeing my friend in front of me. When one of them struck my ear, I kind of ended the fight - i don't remember exactly how - maybe by saying "KEFAYA", or "ENOUGH!", and stepping back, but the point is, that in essence that fight was just a bunch of letters, words, sentences, and a paragraph or two, that automatically flow. 

Learning this for us men is of vital importance, as it will even be our reflex in our dreams. You will look forwards to facing more monsters in your dreams, and not only that, but even your strikes in your dreams will actually have 'umph', or strong impacts. It wont be like under water boxing where there is no powerful and explosive impact. So learning martial arts is an investment for all the worlds, and I can not point out enough, that we need to remind ourselves again and again that we are learning and developing this knowledge and skill set, like everything else, just plainly and only for the sake of God - the Lord of the Worlds.

Let me share one of the most famous fighters quotes to date;

"Train as you fight, fight as you train" 

Thanks, w labayka ya Hussein! :dwarf:

 

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On 9/27/2020 at 10:47 PM, Allah Seeker said:

But they won't step into a ring, even if they feel superior to competitors, because that is modern day gladiator sport, that defeats the purpose of self defense.

But fighting and sparring builds up strength and resistance. How could these "serious martial artists" be that powerful if they never fought forreal against someone else.

Look I'm gonna be blunt here. As much as I love the forms, Katas, symbolic techniques that these old martial arts offer, they just do not hold any significant superiority. Unless you train for 10 years everyday with all your heart, the chance is small to be able to "predict" your opponents move in fight which practically is unpredictable. 

Here's the problem:

Kung Fu, Aikido, Krav Maga, ... these are all martial arts that are too idealistisic, as in they focus too much on the ideal situation. Just like those self-defense lessons they teach women. The chance of you getting in specialized headlock in which you have to use very specific counter movements is slim to none.

You need simple and most effective martials arts, however savage they look. Because that's what you need to be in a fight, a savage. Not in a bloodthirsty way but in a effective and ruthless way. And MMA offers that. In a small time frame too. And by MMA I mean one or many of the sports it encompasses. If you cannot use legs like @Gaius I. Caesar then learn Boxing. If you want only grappling, then learn BJJ or wrestling. Please don't waste your time on niche martial arts that only give you the illusion of power when actually in a real life setting you might get seriously hurt.

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6 minutes ago, Berber-Shia said:

Just like those self-defense lessons they teach women.

And for any women out there reading this thread(lol), the best self defense you could have is screaming, a pocket knife and a pepper-spray can.

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5 minutes ago, Berber-Shia said:

But fighting and sparring builds up strength and resistance. How could these "serious martial artists" be that powerful if they never fought forreal against someone else.

Sports competitions are not real fights. And of course sparring is important. Nobody said it isn't. 

Anyway it seems you didn't get my point earlier, so all the best in your training, whatever you think is best for you. 

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I'd like to train in Brazilian Jujitsu; mainly for the discipline and the fitness aspects of doing so. I have been in too many physical altercations in my younger years, so I am not really interested in mma but I could see myself competing at a BJJ tournament/meetup if I was good enough because that's a different thing entirely. Unfortunately, the only BJJ dojos around here are clown operations/McDojos

When I was younger I took Shotokan karate, but it wasn't really something I was into because I think that the sensei I had didn't really take it seriously and didn't know as much as he thought he did. If I were ever to do martial arts again, I want to train under someone who really knows what they are doing and isn't in it just to make money or get trophies. Granted, I'm not trying to "learn how to fight", I just want the discipline of performing kata and the fitness that comes with training.

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I did karate from the age of 7-11 . I must say it was the most useless thing I ever did and wasted 4 years of my life as I got into my first proper fight in high school and got smacked up; moreso because I was attempting to do the moves I was used to which didn't work at all lol I often think about this day and still feel I could have defeated that nerd if I just used my own instincts. Some people say I have trouble letting go of things, maybe which is why I am still an angry young-ish man.

Then I enrolled into kickboxing at the age of 14 which was great exercise. I couldn't understand why an hour and 20 minutes lesson, 45 minutes was running around doing press ups and jumping like a horse. Good cardio workout but that was it.

I did wing Chun for about a year and quit after i found it useless, again got into a fight (PURELY SELF DEFENSE)  with some high off coke builder who couldn't feel a punch to his face (It felt like I was doing those punches like you do in your dreams that don't work)

Anyways all the moves that I know until this day I have learned from watching films like The Way of the Dragon, Bloodsport and kickboxer. Ironically those moves I picked up from those films actually worked in real life (I mean high school scraps..nothing too serious) 

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19 hours ago, SO SOLID SHIA said:

I did karate from the age of 7-11 . I must say it was the most useless thing I ever did and wasted 4 years of my life as I got into my first proper fight in high school and got smacked up; moreso because I was attempting to do the moves I was used to which didn't work at all lol I often think about this day and still feel I could have defeated that nerd if I just used my own instincts. Some people say I have trouble letting go of things, maybe which is why I am still an angry young-ish man.

Then I enrolled into kickboxing at the age of 14 which was great exercise. I couldn't understand why an hour and 20 minutes lesson, 45 minutes was running around doing press ups and jumping like a horse. Good cardio workout but that was it.

I did wing Chun for about a year and quit after i found it useless, again got into a fight (PURELY SELF DEFENSE)  with some high off coke builder who couldn't feel a punch to his face (It felt like I was doing those punches like you do in your dreams that don't work)

Anyways all the moves that I know until this day I have learned from watching films like The Way of the Dragon, Bloodsport and kickboxer. Ironically those moves I picked up from those films actually worked in real life (I mean high school scraps..nothing too serious) 

Expected nothing less from Kim. 

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3 minutes ago, Shian e Ali said:

That’s classified. You’ll find out during our death match. 

I'm currently reading your blog . If you don't mind me asking are you a female? I only know of females to write blogs.

It's pretty good keep it up 

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1 minute ago, SO SOLID SHIA said:

I'm currently reading your blog ? If you don't mind me asking are you a female? I only know of females to write blogs.

It's pretty good keep it up 

Umm, I’ll leave that to you to guess. Though, I believe some of my posts make it obvious what my gender is lol! 
 

As for the blogs, I started writing them when they were newly introduced. I never updated it again. 

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5 minutes ago, Shian e Ali said:

I believe some of my posts make it obvious what my gender is lol!

I don't assume, plus I'm not sure what you've said that could potentially highlight you as gender fluid

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On 2/6/2024 at 12:46 PM, SO SOLID SHIA said:

I did karate from the age of 7-11 . I must say it was the most useless thing I ever did and wasted 4 years of my life as I got into my first proper fight in high school and got smacked up; moreso because I was attempting to do the moves I was used to which didn't work at all lol I often think about this day and still feel I could have defeated that nerd if I just used my own instincts. Some people say I have trouble letting go of things, maybe which is why I am still an angry young-ish man.

Then I enrolled into kickboxing at the age of 14 which was great exercise. I couldn't understand why an hour and 20 minutes lesson, 45 minutes was running around doing press ups and jumping like a horse. Good cardio workout but that was it.

I did wing Chun for about a year and quit after i found it useless, again got into a fight (PURELY SELF DEFENSE)  with some high off coke builder who couldn't feel a punch to his face (It felt like I was doing those punches like you do in your dreams that don't work)

Anyways all the moves that I know until this day I have learned from watching films like The Way of the Dragon, Bloodsport and kickboxer. Ironically those moves I picked up from those films actually worked in real life (I mean high school scraps..nothing too serious) 

No one caresSSS

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11 hours ago, 123xo said:

No one caresSSS

Allah cares ..and so does the cable guy @Ashvazdanghe

Do you do any martial arts though ? 

Yo where is that shaolin guy though I have many questions for him 

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Used to freestyle wrestle. Won laurels in school days as an under-18 champion. Fended off a mob of eight opponents alone in middle-high school. If that counts, that is. 

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On 9/29/2020 at 3:52 AM, Berber-Shia said:

And for any women out there reading this thread(lol), the best self defense you could have is screaming, a pocket knife and a pepper-spray can.

Screaming is all good until the sicko slits their throat or muffles their mouth in someway. Women, especially hijabis need to consider hat pins and aim for head/face. Maybe some sister can start some business selling self-defense pins for hijab and hijabs that can be double pinned somehow.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/hatpins-mashers-self-defense-history-women-hats-fashion

As evinced by this picture from 1904 in the article linked above: This 1904 image, from the <em>San Francisco Sunday Call</em>, shows how women fought back when mashers approached.

If the law permits it, I think all women should forego pocket knifes and carry Bowies instead. If not allowed, then they should carry 2.5 to 3 inch karambits.

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On 2/6/2024 at 7:16 AM, SO SOLID SHIA said:

I did karate from the age of 7-11 . I must say it was the most useless thing I ever did and wasted 4 years of my life as I got into my first proper fight in high school and got smacked up; moreso because I was attempting to do the moves I was used to which didn't work at all lol I often think about this day and still feel I could have defeated that nerd if I just used my own instincts. Some people say I have trouble letting go of things, maybe which is why I am still an angry young-ish man.

Then I enrolled into kickboxing at the age of 14 which was great exercise. I couldn't understand why an hour and 20 minutes lesson, 45 minutes was running around doing press ups and jumping like a horse. Good cardio workout but that was it.

I did wing Chun for about a year and quit after i found it useless, again got into a fight (PURELY SELF DEFENSE)  with some high off coke builder who couldn't feel a punch to his face (It felt like I was doing those punches like you do in your dreams that don't work)

Anyways all the moves that I know until this day I have learned from watching films like The Way of the Dragon, Bloodsport and kickboxer. Ironically those moves I picked up from those films actually worked in real life (I mean high school scraps..nothing too serious) 

Learn boxing or muay thai or mma. Kickboxing is also good. These are real combat sport. You just need 6 months of training to fight average people and knock them out. 

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7 hours ago, sunnism said:

Learn boxing or muay thai or mma. Kickboxing is also good. These are real combat sport. You just need 6 months of training to fight average people and knock them out. 

Salam thanks man. 

Got a  muay Thai instructor friend who always  offers to train me for free, but haven't taken advantage of it. I'm still trying to get that Neo software installed where he becomes a Kung Fu expert within moments. (Basically just been lazy )

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Try boxing, muay thai or bjj, but remember to not to do it too much or it can cause severe brain damage, you can see what happened to Muhammad Ali. And secondly, try your very best to not test your skills against someone over pity issues. I still get tempted to bust someone up may god grant us control over our heedless desires.

 

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I have a friend who told me to hold his arm and try to push him. He took a deep breath and I still pushed him.

We repeated this about 3 times before reality hit him.  Does anyone know about southern praying mantis here or practice it?

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On 9/28/2020 at 3:41 AM, Gaius I. Caesar said:

I understand what you're saying but these aren't really an option because my legs don't work. 

Iron Palm/Fist/Body is not really a martial arts but body conditioning. I'm not interested in the flashier "Hollywood" aspects of Kung Fu. It's not practical and I can't physically do it anyway. What I am interested in being able to deliver very  powerful strikes with minimal effort and energy, increasing my pain threshold  and having the option of ending a fight with one punch (and quickly remove myself from the fight safely)

Learn boxing then

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13 hours ago, SO SOLID SHIA said:

I have a friend who told me to hold his arm and try to push him. He took a deep breath and I still pushed him.

We repeated this about 3 times before reality hit him.  Does anyone know about southern praying mantis here or practice it?

Did you just come out of jail

2 hours ago, SO SOLID SHIA said:

Southern Praying Mantis ...this is the real stuff 

This is me and my older bros fav

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6 hours ago, hawdini said:

Did you just come out of jail

Haha that does sound like a game to pass time in prison ! It was actually in a coffee shop

 

6 hours ago, hawdini said:

This is me and my older bros fav

That looks like it has Northern Praying mantis moves in it too....what do you mean?? It's yours and your brother's favourite YouTube video or style of Kung Fu ..you guys do Kung Fu??? Drunken style 

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20 hours ago, SO SOLID SHIA said:

It was actually in a coffee shop

hahaha 

 

20 hours ago, SO SOLID SHIA said:

you guys do Kung Fu

no i wishh, its my dream to be so strong and flexible. My bro did practice those moves on me when we were kids tho 

 

20 hours ago, SO SOLID SHIA said:

That looks like it has Northern Praying mantis moves in it too

whats the difference between northern and southern?

 

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6 hours ago, hawdini said:

hahaha 

 

no i wishh, its my dream to be so strong and flexible. My bro did practice those moves on me when we were kids tho 

 

whats the difference between northern and southern?

 

Oh ...so you and your brother just have a random favourite video together on youtube? Are you actually a fan of Kung Fu or you're trolling?

If you really want to know the difference ..Northern Praying Mantis style originated in Shandong province in Northern china and the style came about when a dude saw 2 praying mantis insects fighting and decided to mimmick their movements ...southern praying mantis I'm guessing came from the south and im not too familiar with it because I've only recently had a slight obsession with their videos and one of my friends used to attend their classes years ago but said he quit after a few months because it was too intense for him lol..I can understand why though. Anyways northern practitioners use the mantis claw in their stance and for attacks too

 

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I recently came across a document where some guy claims he has studied the correlation between southern praying mantis students and a more tougher upbringing or something like that...I think he was alluding to something like the more orthodox salafi leaning ...I will have to read over it again but it was a peculiar comparison. From what I have seen, southern is more focused on up close combat and their punches are some of the craziest lighting strikes there are , but northern style kicks are apparently more effective ...if anyone else knows more please feel free to correct me 

 

There is a whole documentary on YT about southern Vs northern mantis styles if you're really that interested:worried:

 

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