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My Love For You Is Bidah

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(salam)

Well done brothers, i cant even come up with a single poetic line, i dont have my grandparents genes although they where philosophizing their poems, this is great work, what you have uncovered is know as "the art of Islamic innovation", its a fine art to accomplish indeed. ; )

(wasalam)

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ROFL w00t.gif Great poem indeed *high five to both of you*

I wonder whom this poem is dedicated to :P

Astagfur Allah, what am I doing here? I shouldnt know how to type what I am typing and read what I am reading, I should be illiterate. Yalla, time for my spinning and weaving course. Ma3a al salama :)

EDIT: I forgot that I am not allowed to leave the house... :dry:

Edited by Iraqiah_Shia

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LOL hmmmmmm I wonder who that is "dedicated to" ^_^

My lips are sealed.

Its a bit of a nasty thing to be taking the p**s out of someone else in this way - especially since people probably know who this is about.

Firstly, we wrote it in a way that nobody could possibly know who it is.

Secondly, we are not "taking the p**s" (what kind of crazy British slang is that?) out of him, we are expressing our love for him. Big difference, probably (unless "taking the p**s" means expressing our love).

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Its a bit of a nasty thing to be taking the p**s out of someone else in this way

Good call Jen :)

Quran 49:11: O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): Nor let some women laugh at others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former): Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.

- especially since people probably know who this is about.

Yep! It is very clear who is being "talked about" and the follow up posts to the OP establish that.

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(bismillah)

(salam)

:lol:

I must confess, that the eloquence and the rhyming skills should be attributed entirely to Comrade Jackson.

Members are requested to keep their eyes and ears open for future collaborations.

EDIT: As the respected comrade correctly mentioned, this is our tribute to an internet legend (ostureh-e-internet) who has provided us with some Grade A comedy.

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Good call Jen :)

Quran 49:11: O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): Nor let some women laugh at others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former): Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.

Yep! It is very clear who is being "talked about" and the follow up posts to the OP establish that.

So let's see...

One member accuses of bidah or kufr anyone who doesn't share his bizarre worldview...

Some other members make some harmless jokes about said member...

And you choose to reprimand the latter.

Yeah, makes perfect sense.

(bismillah)

(salam)

:lol:

I must confess, that the eloquence and the rhyming skills should be attributed entirely to Comrade Jackson.

Members are requested to keep their eyes and ears open for future collaborations.

EDIT: As the respected comrade correctly mentioned, this is our tribute to an internet legend (ostureh-e-internet) who has provided us with some Grade A comedy.

Shut up, dearest brother.

This couldn't have been done without you.

And of course it also couldn't have been done without some divine inspiration.

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So let's see...

One member accuses of bidah or kufr anyone who doesn't share his bizarre worldview...

Some other members make some harmless jokes about said member...

And you choose to reprimand the latter.

Yeah, makes perfect sense.

Mock me if you like but I don’t think your “jokes” are harmless. Jokes at someone’s expense are not funny - ever.

You can try and deflect the issue, but what you posted is not acceptable to me. I sincerely believe that 49:11 should be heeded without disclaimer, as it asks for respect for all Muslim brothers and sisters.

But it is obvious that you have plenty who think you are hilarious, so why do you bother with what I posted? Anyway, I was not responding to you but to _Jen_’s post.

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Mock me if you like but I don’t think your “jokes” are harmless. Jokes at someone’s expense are not funny - ever.

You can try and deflect the issue, but what you posted is not acceptable to me. I sincerely believe that 49:11 should be heeded without disclaimer, as it asks for respect for all Muslim brothers and sisters.

But it is obvious that you have plenty who think you are hilarious, so why do you bother with what I posted? Anyway, I was not responding to you but to _Jen_’s post.

I can post some ayahs too:

So they accused them of falsehood, and they became of those who were destroyed. (23:48)

And those who speak evil things of the believing men and the believing women without their having earned (it), they are guilty indeed of a false accusation and a manifest sin. (33:58)

Said member has done nothing but accuse other people. He has essentially afforded himself masoom status by accusing not just Shiachat members, but respected scholars of projecting their personal opinions upon Islam (he himself, of course, is immune from this; he has perfect, unblemished judgement).

Such people must be humbled. Jokes are a harmless way of doing so.

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I dont see anything offensive here. In fact, its more likely to remove any tension between the members, and create a friendlier environment.

Brother recently whenever I scroll past your posts my computer locks for about 10-15 seconds.

I finally learned why: it's because of your avatar. It's HUGE.

Here, I reduced the picture size for you. Please replace your current avatar with this one:

vihemv.jpg

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Good call Jen :)

Quran 49:11: O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): Nor let some women laugh at others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former): Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.

Yep! It is very clear who is being "talked about" and the follow up posts to the OP establish that.

Yes- that was my initial reaction when I read it, and I must say I am very suprised the religiouser muslims than myself did not have the same reaction.

I find it hypocritical that this whole poem makes fun out of the way someone practices Islam - yet look at the way the authors have gone about dealing with it. Sarcasm, gheebat, and whatever else went into writing it. 2 wrongs don't make a right. The worse thing is the people that encourage it. Now I am sure the person you are talking about (and anyone who happens to share his beliefs/views, will never take seriously anything of what you guys say. )

My lips are sealed.

Firstly, we wrote it in a way that nobody could possibly know who it is.

Secondly, we are not "taking the p**s" (what kind of crazy British slang is that?) out of him, we are expressing our love for him. Big difference, probably (unless "taking the p**s" means expressing our love).

Erm...just how many people on this thread have indicated they know how it might be about? No, taking the p**s means making fun of.

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I have to agree with Maryam and Jen on this one. I feel this is another case of schoolyard bullying in the cyber form.

I am sure those involved are good muslims who may have had the intention of lightening the atmosphere with some humour,

however this kind of humour is hurtful and harmful. By belittling and disrespecting our brothers and sisters we are disrespecting ourselves.

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(salam)

(bismillah)

For the longest time as I was reading, it seemed as if they were talking about me. But there are a few distinct lines that is said in this poem that made me realize who they were talking about. To be honest, if it was about me, I would have no hard feelings, actually I would feel honored that two people thought about me that much and took that much time off of their day to compose a poem about me.

P.S. - Baradar, you strayed away from your 1-2-3-2 style of rhyming in your poem.

(salam)

Edited by Nader Zaveri

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Salam,

I can't seem to edit my last post. I would like to apologize for it, I didn't catch the sarcasm in this poem :blush: . Silly, me.

I am so sorry if I offended anybody, and I hope that this poem was written with sincere intentions.

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Brother recently whenever I scroll past your posts my computer locks for about 10-15 seconds.

I finally learned why: it's because of your avatar. It's HUGE.

Here, I reduced the picture size for you. Please replace your current avatar with this one:

vihemv.jpg

Brothers, you two are genius.

Bring me in to the next collaboration! Wallah ill have some wicked input.

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Firstly, thanks to all the brothers and sisters who enjoyed the poem. Your support, admiration, and idolization is all that we need.

We are working on a divan with poems about Shiachat legends. So there is definitely some more poems to come.

(salam)

(bismillah)

For the longest time as I was reading, it seemed as if they were talking about me. But there are a few distinct lines that is said in this poem that made me realize who they were talking about. To be honest, if it was about me, I would have no hard feelings, actually I would feel honored that two people thought about me that much and took that much time off of their day to compose a poem about me.

P.S. - Baradar, you strayed away from your 1-2-3-2 style of rhyming in your poem.

(salam)

No, Nader.

My love for you is far too great to be simply called bidah.

My love for you is shirk.

Brothers, you two are genius.

Bring me in to the next collaboration! Wallah ill have some wicked input.

Send us a PM with the details.

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Firstly, thanks to all the brothers and sisters who enjoyed the poem. Your support, admiration, and idolization is all that we need.

Mahdavist and I are working on a divan with poems about Shiachat legends. So there is definitely some more poems to come.

No, Nader.

My love for you is far too great to be simply called bidah.

My love for you is shirk.

Send a PM to Mahdavist with the details. He is the brain behind this whole operation. He is the engine that makes the wheels turn.

Bro, just PM the name of the next member, and ill write something.

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Dedicated to my brother and friend:

guess who???

Some poems are remarkably blatant

Not subtle, neither secret, nor latent.

If the guilty is himself the judge,

Then people call it biddah with a grudge

People deserve respect amicably until

Incompetence becomes utterly patent

Some jokes are done for song and rhyme

Like adulterers find a hotel room's pleasant time

Why not; my Agha is Ameer ul Momineen

Problems with Mutah can be widely seen

Everyone hates Iran and wali ul Iran

So Michael Jackson in Bahran found proximal iran

Dust the Jokes apart my marja in reality is Imam of the Time.

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Dedicated to my brother and friend:

guess who???

Some poems are remarkably blatant

Not subtle, neither secret, nor latent.

If the guilty is himself the judge,

Then people call it biddah with a grudge

People deserve respect amicably until

Incompetence becomes utterly patent

Some jokes are done for song and rhyme

Like adulterers find a hotel room's pleasant time

Why not; my Agha is Ameer ul Momineen

Problems with Mutah can be widely seen

Everyone hates Iran and wali ul Iran

So Michael Jackson in Bahran found proximal iran

Dust the Jokes apart my marja in reality is Imam of the Time.

Yo Yo Yo! Lay down a funky beat for me

*began with beating the chest and jumping up and down*

What a pleasant surprise,

Madar-e aroos oomad

You always gotta defend your buddy,

Because yall both work for Mossad

If the guilty are the judge,

Then you Akhbaris are John Roberts

You accuse others of bidah,

And aren't fans of Aaron Rodgers

Siraat you act like you have such akhlaq,

And that you deserve to be respected

Now it turns out you're down with Bhooka,

Just as I suspected

You say with such certainty,

That Imam Ali is your Agha

You don't even seem to realize,

That Imam Ali is in AJA

"I do taqlid of Imam Mahdi,"

"The Imam is my marja"

Well I've never seen his website,

So how are you getting his fatwa?

You say Iranians always need,

A reason to rule over others

Well maybe that reason to rule,

Is the ignorance of you brothers?

But I am not a nationalist,

I say let this land burn

It's just that the IRI is Islam,

When will you people learn?

If we are guilty of shirk,

For following Seyyed Ali

Then I prefer that over the alternative,

Which yall are presenting to me

Yall are claiming ismah,

Without even knowing it

You're holding the banner of the Imam,

And then you tell us we're burning it

You are muqalids of yourselves,

Confident in your objectivity

Well from an outsider's perspective,

This notion lacks receptivity

Yall are insignificant,

That is what you must realize

Relegate the true scholarship,

To those of us who can theorize

Otherwise we are left,

With a disease that has no cure

The contagion of Akhbarism,

The Islamic fad de jure

Edited by Zareen

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The heart of those blessed with knowledge have eyes

That see what onlookers do not see,

And the Sunna with secrets silently speaks

What the honoured blamers do not know our hearts fly with no wings of a fatwa

To the domain of the Rabb of the earth far away from the ahl e Biddah

It is Allah and His Hujja a judge in between

not the love for the houses occupy our heart

but it is the love for those who lived therein

as we know what people would do in their presence

will vehemently do the same in their absence

The outcome of something incurring your ire

Might bring you in the end a pleasing desire

Do not close on yourself the Door of Ilm

Allah makes happen whatever he does Will

His Islam is not what you think so never object His Will

Pleased I am with what Allah allotted for me

My affairs have I entrusted to the One who created me

Just as Allah was benevolent to me in the past

So will He for what remains and no harm can touch a man of obedience

So long as I am true to my Lord in everlasting obedience

My heart is filled with pure adoration of Wali

No place do I have for selfmade "wali Ghair e Wali"

May be one day what is tight for you may become wide

And what is wide today may become tight

May Allah make your chest for Islam Wide

So you can measure your words before a fight

Ya Ali Madad

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The heart of those blessed with knowledge have eyes

That see what onlookers do not see,

And the Sunna with secrets silently speaks

What the honoured blamers do not know our hearts fly with no wings of a fatwa

To the domain of the Rabb of the earth far away from the ahl e Biddah

It is Allah and His Hujja a judge in between

not the love for the houses occupy our heart

but it is the love for those who lived therein

as we know what people would do in their presence

will vehemently do the same in their absence

The outcome of something incurring your ire

Might bring you in the end a pleasing desire

Do not close on yourself the Door of Ilm

Allah makes happen whatever he does Will

His Islam is not what you think so never object His Will

Pleased I am with what Allah allotted for me

My affairs have I entrusted to the One who created me

Just as Allah was benevolent to me in the past

So will He for what remains and no harm can touch a man of obedience

So long as I am true to my Lord in everlasting obedience

My heart is filled with pure adoration of Wali

No place do I have for selfmade "wali Ghair e Wali"

May be one day what is tight for you may become wide

And what is wide today may become tight

May Allah make your chest for Islam Wide

So you can measure your words before a fight

Ya Ali Madad

If you're gonna suck so bad, then I'm not even gonna continue with this poetry battle.

Let's just stop it right here and let the people decide: your two poems against my one.

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