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Salam

Tohfa Ithna `Ashari (ÊÍÝÀ ÇËäÇÚÔÑí) is a book written by Shah `Abdul Aziz Muhaddith Dehlavi. (ÔÇÀ ÚÈÏáÚÒíÒ ãÍÏË ÏÀáæí)

I am wondering if someone can help me locate the book.

The book was originally written in either Farsi or Urdu. If it's in Farsi, is there any Urdu or English translation available? If it's in Urdu then where can I find it, online and/or in print?

Your help is appreciated.

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(bismillah)

My understanding is that it is a book written against the Shia school. Why are you looking for it?

WS

Yes, this book is indeed written against Shia. The author intended it to be a 'refutation' of Shia madhab. I am researching on how Shia of the Subcontinent (esp Delhi and connecting regions) were perceived among the Sunnis. So this book makes an important read. This book also records perceptions of the author and ilk about Shia customs and rituals at that time. I have read parts of it quoted by some Shia writers in their rebuttal but haven't got a chance to read the book directly.

The book is banned in Pakistan.

For real??

That's news to me.

(salam)

A book full of lies!

Two of the Parts can be downloaded from تحفہ اثنا عشري حصہ 1 تحفہ اثنا عشري حصہ 2

Thank you for the links. But it says:

کچھ تکنيکي خرابيوں کي وجہ سے اس وقت تمام کتب ڈاونلوڈ نہيں ہو سکتيں۔ ان خرابيوں کي درستگي کيلئے کام جاري ہے۔ انشااللہ آپ آہستہ آہستہ مزيد کتابيں ڈاونلوڈ کر سکيں گے ۔ ہم اس کي وجہ سے معذرت خواہ ہيں۔ اس پر انشااللہ کام جلد مکمل ہو جاے گا ۔

Any other source? :unsure:

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The page you're looking for is not found.

Please use the Search to search for torrents.

:unsure:

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(salam),

Here, try this (it works for me): http://ia700100.us.archive.org/3/items/February2010/TohfaEIthnaAshariyaurduBySheikhShahAbdulAzizDehlvir.a.pdf

Didn't realise that the author was Shah Waliullah's son, until now. :squeez:

wa (salam)

(bismillah)

(salam)

there is a nice english refutation of it by a bengali muhhib solicitor

i believe it is called the caliph's caliphate

will dig up the book and give more details

it is a very nice book bro marbles

(wasalam)

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(bismillah)

(salam)

there is a nice english refutation of it by a bengali muhhib solicitor

i believe it is called the caliph's caliphate

will dig up the book and give more details

it is a very nice book bro marbles

(wasalam)

I believe the book you are referring to is a refutation of Izalatul Khifa by Shah Waliullah.

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I believe the book you are referring to is a refutation of Izalatul Khifa by Shah Waliullah.

you right bro, it is by br. M.A.A.Sattar and the full name is "it removes the misconception about caliphs' caliphate"

and is a refutation, one of, to izalatul khifa by shah walyullah muhaddith dehlavi

and tohfa e ishnaria is the urdu translation of the same

am open to corrections

(wasalam)

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(salam),

Here, try this (it works for me): http://ia700100.us.archive.org/3/items/February2010/TohfaEIthnaAshariyaurduBySheikhShahAbdulAzizDehlvir.a.pdf

Didn't realise that the author was Shah Waliullah's son, until now. :squeez:

wa (salam)

Chotay Shah sahib: excellent stuff. The link works for me too. Thanks a bunch :)

Yes, this Shah Abdul Aziz is Shah Waliullah's son. Like father like son. His father wrote "Qurat al-`Aynain", among other tracts, apostatising the Shia. The father was a bit subtle in his condemnation whereas the son was more outspoken.

During his stay in Hejaz, Shah Waliullah also translated into Arabic from Persian an anti-Shia treatise called "Radd-e-Rawafiz" (Refutation of the Rejectionists). That treatise was authored by the so called Mujaddad Alf Sani (Thani for Arabs) Shaykh Ahmed Sirhindi. The latter as well as the former are lionized in Pakistani history textbooks as bulwarks of the religion; the "revivalists" of Islam; the "joiners" of the faith. The fact that all three were rabid sectarianists is completely omitted. Pakistanis Shia don't realise that Pakistani nationalism based on the singular narrative of the Sunni view of history is tacitly anti-Shia. Anyways, that's besides the point. A jumla-e-m'otarezah.

(bismillah)

(salam)

there is a nice english refutation of it by a bengali muhhib solicitor

i believe it is called the caliph's caliphate

will dig up the book and give more details

it is a very nice book bro marbles

(wasalam)

Is the English refutation available online? Any links you can dig up, bro? Thanks

you right bro, it is by br. M.A.A.Sattar and the full name is "it removes the misconception about caliphs' caliphate"

and is a refutation, one of, to izalatul khifa by shah walyullah muhaddith dehlavi

and tohfa e ishnaria is the urdu translation of the same

am open to corrections

Tohfa is the Urdu translation of which book??

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Tohfa is the Urdu translation of which book??

(bismillah)

(salam)

tohfa e isnasharia is most probably the urdu translation of izalatul khifa an khulafatal khulafa

by shah walyullah muhaddith dehlavi

(wasalam)

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(bismillah)

(salam)

tohfa e isnasharia is most probably the urdu translation of izalatul khifa an khulafatal khulafa

by shah walyullah muhaddith dehlavi

(wasalam)

Hmmm. But wasn't Tohfa Ithna `Ashariyah written originally in Farsi?

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Tohfa Ithna Ashariyah is a separate book from Izalatul Khifa.

Incidently, Allamah Mirza Muhammad ibn 'Inayat Ahmad Khan Kashmiri Dehlawi (d. 1235/1820)who wrote Nuzhat al­'Ithna `Ashariyyah fi al­radd `ala al­Tuhfat al­'ithna `ashariyyah in twelve volumes in response to Shah Abdul Aziz's nonsense.

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Hmmm. But wasn't Tohfa Ithna `Ashariyah written originally in Farsi?

(bismillah)

(salam)

the son cheated from the father or else built up upon it.

strange shah from umar's lineage

(wasalam)

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During his stay in Hejaz, Shah Waliullah also translated into Arabic from Persian an anti-Shia treatise called "Radd-e-Rawafiz" (Refutation of the Rejectionists). That treatise was authored by the so called Mujaddad Alf Sani (Thani for Arabs) Shaykh Ahmed Sirhindi. The latter as well as the former are lionized in Pakistani history textbooks as bulwarks of the religion; the "revivalists" of Islam; the "joiners" of the faith. The fact that all three were rabid sectarianists is completely omitted. Pakistanis Shia don't realise that Pakistani nationalism based on the singular narrative of the Sunni view of history is tacitly anti-Shia. Anyways, that's besides the point. A jumla-e-m'otarezah.

No kidding. Shah Waliullah, Syed Ahmed Shaheed and Haji Shariatullah were three religious 'giants' we were taught about in my Pakistan St. O levels. In fact, quite ironically I was taught that Shah Waliullah was actually pretty neutral about the Shia-Sunni discord and always looked to promote peace between the two sects, which he did by clearing the Shia-Sunni 'misconceptions' about each other. I even remember that my book said Izalat al Akhfa was a book that showed a green signal to many of the Shi'i beliefs, and hence the book brought together the Shia and Sunni beliefs (about the Caliphs).

Also, I was taught he was the first one to translate the Qur'an into Persian and two of his sons after him, became the first ones to translate it into Urdu (apparently, for which he faced quite some criticism from 'religious extremists' at the time). Anybody know how true that is? :unsure:

wa (salam)

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No kidding. Shah Waliullah, Syed Ahmed Shaheed and Haji Shariatullah were three religious 'giants' we were taught about in my Pakistan St. O levels. In fact, quite ironically I was taught that Shah Waliullah was actually pretty neutral about the Shia-Sunni discord and always looked to promote peace between the two sects, which he did by clearing the Shia-Sunni 'misconceptions' about each other. I even remember that my book said Izalat al Akhfa was a book that showed a green signal to many of the Shi'i beliefs, and hence the book brought together the Shia and Sunni beliefs (about the Caliphs).

Also, I was taught he was the first one to translate the Qur'an into Persian and two of his sons after him, became the first ones to translate it into Urdu (apparently, for which he faced quite some extremism from 'religious extremists' at the time). Anybody know how true that is? :unsure:

wa (salam)

That's rewriting history in action. Shah Waliullah was as rabidly anti-Shia as they come, and Ayesha Jalal's recent book on Jihad deals with him in quite some depth. To call him neutral is incredulous.

The first one to translate the Quran into Persian was Hazrat Salman al-Farsi who did so on the order of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) as far as I am aware.

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The first one to translate the Quran into Persian was Hazrat Salman al-Farsi who did so on the order of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) as far as I am aware.

This is the first time I'm reading this. Can you tell me where you got this from?

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This is the first time I'm reading this. Can you tell me where you got this from?

I heard it from various scholars, but I will try to a get a reference for you.

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The first one to translate the Quran into Persian was Hazrat Salman al-Farsi who did so on the order of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) as far as I am aware.

That language was Middle Persian known as Parsik or Pahlavi. It had no similarity with the lexicon, grammar, vocabulary and script of the modern Persian (Farsi). I don't think a copy of Salman al-Farsi's translation exists. It would be interesting to see who was the first person to translate Quran in Farsi as we know it.

No kidding. Shah Waliullah, Syed Ahmed Shaheed and Haji Shariatullah were three religious 'giants' we were taught about in my Pakistan St. O levels. In fact, quite ironically I was taught that Shah Waliullah was actually pretty neutral about the Shia-Sunni discord and always looked to promote peace between the two sects, which he did by clearing the Shia-Sunni 'misconceptions' about each other. I even remember that my book said Izalat al Akhfa was a book that showed a green signal to many of the Shi'i beliefs, and hence the book brought together the Shia and Sunni beliefs (about the Caliphs).

I know bro lol. I still remember the hagiographical paragraphs in my Pakistan Studies textbook. What a truckload of nonsense. I mean these are just plain lies. Anyone slightly acquainted with the works of Shah Waliullah and his sons can see their anti-Shi'ism.

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Salam

cardio for Muharram exercising walking, taking care of the family a good thing between lectures

This is the main book used by “Shaikh” Adan Rashad in speakers corner in London

The salafi tend to like this one and Ayatullah Abu Hassan Isfhani grandson’s book, but they’re pretty easy to refute 

If you want a thorough understanding of our theology

The Shia theology by Shaikh Saduq it’s commentary by Shaikh Mufid give a nice introduction

For an alternative introduction, theological instructions by the late Ayatullah Muhammad Taqi Misbah Yazdi is decent

50 inquiries on religion by Ayatullah Nasr Makarim Shirazi it’s a decent alternative. It’s geared towards the youth, but it has questions at the end of each section.

For more detailed understanding, I would look at the reality of certainty by Allammah Majalisi which covers the whole range of our creed

For specifics Kitab Tawid of Shaikh Saduq and Illahiyat of Ayatullah Subhani 

Badat and Adl Illahi from Muttahaeri 

All of these are available in English, except to my knowledge illahiyat 

wallahu Alam 

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On 6/12/2026 at 3:17 PM, Guest MahabAli said:

@Marbles Seems it's almost a decade and a half on your question about this book. It's available on SCRIBD, 755 pages in Urdu. Link down below

https://www.scribd.com/document/83082371/Tohfa-Asna-Ashriya

I am still here a decade and a half later. Thanks for sharing the link to the book. I appreciate it!

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