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From, www.hashemstudios-board.com/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=7769

An Ansari once asked the Yamani Imam Ahmad Al Hassan(a.s):

Question: Why did the Prophet(saw)marry more than 4 wives?

Answer:If you had a spiral spring hanged on a roof, how much weight do you need to make it settle on the earth?No doubt that the weight must be according to the force of the spiral spring and the Messenger of Allah pbuhap, his spirit was hanging on the highest realm, so in order for him to remain on earth to perform his message,weight was needed to make him remain here and that is why he married a lot pbuh. As an example, Jesus pbuh when Allah needed to raise him,he had to only avoid eating for three days so then he was raised to the sky.

So the Holy Prophet married 9 women so that lust of 9 women could keep him at bay from ascending into the sky ? Correct me if I have taken the wrong perspective, but that is going really low against our Noble Prophet.

Should I be corrected ? - I am open for correction. Or you hold the same decision ?

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Imam Ali (as) said:

"... And be careful of the Dajjals from the children of Fatima. Indeed there are some from the children of Fatima who are Dajjals. One Dajjal will come from the river of Basra, and he is not from me, and he is the first of all the Dajjals."

Ref: Malahim wal fitan by Ibn Tawoos, P. 249 (chapter 37, hadith no. 362)

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He's a liar, followed by the weak minded, who base their religion off of weak narrations and arrogance. Can we just conclude at that 36 pages later.

I do like ahamdians cuz theyre very nice people tho lol where my dad lives, there's ahamdian community.

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I do like ahamdians cuz theyre very nice people tho lol where my dad lives, there's ahamdian community.

I think you mean Qaydanees, yes they are nice people we have some neighbours who are and my mom is very close with the mom, but they were founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. Ahmad al-Hassan is someone different, he's apparently still alive (Though he hasn't been seen in years), and he has claimed to be the first of 12 Mahdis before Imaam al-Mahdi [ajtf] arrives back. He also claims to be of direct descent from Imaam al-Mahdi [ajtf]. The liar Ahmad al-Hassan also has followers who claim to be Shi`a, whereas Qaydanees claim more to be Sunni. And the followers of al-Hassan call themselves Yamanis.

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I think you mean Qaydanees, yes they are nice people we have some neighbours who are and my mom is very close with the mom, but they were founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmed. Ahmad al-Hassan is someone different, he's apparently still alive (Though he hasn't been seen in years), and he has claimed to be the first of 12 Mahdis before Imaam al-Mahdi [ajtf] arrives back. He also claims to be of direct descent from Imaam al-Mahdi [ajtf]. The liar Ahmad al-Hassan also has followers who claim to be Shi`a, whereas Qaydanees claim more to be Sunni. And the followers of al-Hassan call themselves Yamanis.

oh, my b lol thanks for the clarification.

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WHY I DO NOT BELIEVE IN AHMAD HASSAN ? [ Ep 13 : Following Ulemas ( Scholars ) in the Occultation ]

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Salaam Alaikum

I have watched your series, credit is due to you on your research, but i fear that you were not seeking the truth only seeking to refute the truth. We find with most religious schools of thought a counter arguement can be presented against the reality of the truth based upon limitations of knowleadge etc.

At best your reason "WHY I DONT BELIEVE IN AHMAD AL HASSAN" is educated guessing/opinion or interpretation, especially when it comes to hadiths, but not fact! ( much like when our sunni brothers argue with us over hadith) For me this does not suffice to refute the claim or the numerous evidence of Al Yamani (as). The truth should be sought by the truth ie...we should look at the claim and the claimant, what is the call? what does he stand for? what are the proofs? We must use the Holy Quran, hadiths, our intellect, knowledge, logic, our hearts and faith by looking if the claimant opposes the messenger of Allah (swt) or the Ahlulbait (as) in his knowledge, teachings, morals, ethics Godly manners etc. Also reflect on global events barring in mind the age that we live in and how ordinary some of the signs may appear to us, if we recognise them at all. If we still remain in doubt or confusion, we can put our trust in the most high and have faith in him and his signs as Allah (swt) is sufficient.

Ahmed Al Hassan (as) calls us to Allah (swt) and the Imam of our time by teaching us knowledge and how to reform ourselves and to pave the way for the Imam (atfs). Much like Imam Ali (as) called the people to Allah (swt) and his messenger (saw) who taught mankind the ways in which we can raise in degree's. He (as) does not call to himself and his knowlege/teachings doesn't involve any self interest in terms of worldly gain or status and never has he claimed ALL scholars are bad.

Just an observation: You put effort into your video's but let yourself down by mocking your fellow muslim brethren and even encouraging your viewers to laugh at them! Is this the islamic way??

I ask Allah (swt) to guide us , reform us and have mercy upon us. Wa salaam.

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Salam Alaikum,

I asked the same questions on the other thread and was wondering what the answer is for those parts specifically. based on the "awaitedsavior" website:

http://saviorofmankind.com/homepage/86-english-uk/slideshow/97-glad-tidings

here my expanded question this time in sha Allah

The Awaited Reformer has EMERGED

He is calling to unite under the Banner of pure and true Faith, Justice, and Equity; under the Banner of Allegiance to God (Allah). He is Imam Ahmad Al-Hassan

OK, here it is clear that the "awaited Reformer" is Ahmad Al Hassan according to this statement

Another point that would also be raised is the fact that no human is perfect, unless he is “the one” chosen by God. Otherwise, if humans were perfect, let it be in any way, the world wouldn’t have been divided into many nations and tribes. Thus it becomes clear that it is God’s authority. Furthermore, all doctrines have confessed and ratified that this is the end of time, the end of the world…this is the time when the Holy Anticipated Reformer shall emerge and fill the world with peace and justice, after it had been filled with oppression and injustice. How and in what manner is the anticipated reformer to come? The answer is, in the same manner as any prophet or a messenger has came. Moreover, this holy character has been mentioned in the Muslim Shia, Muslim Sunni, Christian, and Jewish doctrines. However, in each doctrine the holy reformer has been mentioned in different ways:

Jewish: Elijah

Christianity: Comforter or Son of Man

Islam: Al-Mahdi

so if Ahmed el Hassan is "the One", then who is the Mahdi?

and isn't the ahadeeth describing "fill the world with peace and justice, after it had been filled with oppression and injustice." clearly about Imam Mahdi ??? How can people accept that this is for al Yamani?

Then, what is confusing here, is how the "holy reformer" Ahmed al Hassan is described as Elijah, Comforter, Son of Man, Al Mahdi. and then, right afterwards he is described as a "messenger" of Imam Mahdi, Jesus and Elijah.

He is the messenger of Imam Al-Mahdi pbuh who has been sent to all Muslims. He is the messenger of Prophet Jesus pbuh to all Christians, and Prophet Elijah

so now according to "the savior" website Ahmed el Hassan is:

- reformer / savior / chosen ONE / perfect ONE

- the one described as bringing justice to the world, ignoring Imam Mahdi

- Elijah

- Comforter

- Son of Man

- Mahdi

- Messenger of Mahdi

- Successor of Mahdi

- Messenger of Elijah

- Messenger of Jesus

Why is he decribed as Elijah for instance, while being described as his messenger?

Why are ahadeeth being used that are for the Mahdi 12th Imam?

Where is the evidence for his latest claims of being messengers of Jesus and Elijah?? does he claim to meet them too?

how can anybody ignore such weird contradicting, illogical, baseless claims? as well as contradicting with ahadeeth.

we all know that sufiani, yamani, khurasani will "emerge" at the same time. that's just a small little proof against him as well. every time i hear any argument from this guy and his followers, it's just sad to see how people can be so misled.

may Allah guide all of mankind

(wasalam)

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sorry , i forgot to mention that he also claims to be the Yamani and son of Mahdi ..

therefore the list so far is:

  1. - Yamani
  2. - Mahdi
  3. - Successor of Mahdi
  4. - Messenger of Mahdi
  5. - Son of Mahdi
  6. - Elijah
  7. - Messenger of Elijah
  8. - Messenger of Jesus
  9. - Comforter (in Bible)
  10. - Son of Man (Bible)

(wasalam)

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Zulfigar

You have sent your curses on the son of Imam Al Mahdi a.s. and the Yamani who will rescue the Shias from the oppression of the Sufyanis in the coming days..Woe unto those who have abandoned the care of Ahlulbayt a.s. in this time and disbelieved in the lineage and offspring of Imam Al Mahdi a.s...this is the Wilaya of Imam Al Mahdi a.s. presented to you through his successor the Yamani a.s...so don't turn away like how Ahlul Kufa turned away in Karbala..

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A common question that is asked is that Ahmad Ismail has openly challenged for a Mubahillah with our Religious Guides, and since they don't accept the challenge, it proves the Divine Truth of Ahmad Ismail, and the exposure of our Ulemas.

But the actual problem infact for our Ulemas currently seems to be having a hard time guessing who wants to actually have a Mubahilah, since the challenger is invisible.

As you see, the whole Mubahilah challenge is a bluff.

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^ and apparently the divine cry is the satellite dish. LOL

There is nothing to joke about. These are miracles. Among the 5 major signs. And hadiths say it will be Hadhrat Jibra'il that will call out, not your satellite dish. It will be a miraculous sign, just like the following:

"www.youtube.com/watch?v=APFL50DNIyA"

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Assalam Alaykium,

I know this tread is about Ahmad Al Hassan, but has anyone else noticed how similar Akram Al majid and co's views are to this guy and his "ansars". Not just dress wise but some of their beliefs....

1) Both groups wear the hanak

2) Both groups have a major problem with the taqleed system and are attacking this system from its core. While reading their arguments (from their ansars in this tread) they use the same arguments e.g. Shaykh Suduq etc.

3) They have a flawed view of Infallibility that the Prophet (saw) and the Imams (as) can make mistakes.

4) They are trying to "revive" the sunnah of the Prophet (saw)

5) They have an issue with Ali An wali Allah in the Azan

6) the leaders are both from Basra...

These are just some of the things and I'm just giving one line analysis....

Anyone think they have the same agenda?? Working together....same source...???

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حَدَّثَنا أَحْمَدِ بْنِ زِيادِ بْنِ جَعْفَر الهَمْدانِيَّ رَضِىَ اللهُ عَنْهُ قالَ حَدَّثَنا عَلِىِّ بْنِ إِبراهِيمِ بْنِ هاشِم عَنْ أَبي الصَّلْتِ الهَرَوِيِّ قالَ كَانَ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ يُكَلِّمُ النَّاسَ بِلُغَاتِهِمْ وَكَانَ وَاللَّهِ أَفْصَحَ النَّاسِ وَأَعْلَمَهُمْ بِكُلِّ لِسَانٍ وَلُغَةٍ فَقُلْتُ لَهُ يَوْماً يَا ابْنَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ إِنِّي لاعْجَبُ مِنْ مَعْرِفَتِكَ بِهَذِهِ اللُّغَاتِ عَلَى اخْتِلافِهَا فَقَالَ يَا أَبَا الصَّلْتِ أَنَا حُجَّةُ اللَّهِ عَلَى خَلْقِهِ وَمَا كَانَ اللَّهُ لِيَتَّخِذَ حُجَّةً عَلَى قَوْمٍ وَهُوَ لا يَعْرِفُ لُغَاتِهِمْ أَوَمَا بَلَغَكَ قَوْلُ أَمِيرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ‏ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ أُوتِينَا فَصْلَ الْخِطَابِ فَهَلْ فَصْلُ الْخِطَابِ إِلا مَعْرِفَةُ اللُّغَاتِ

Ahmad ibn Ziyad al-Hamadani - may God be pleased with him - narrated that Ali ibn Ibrahim ibn Hashem quoted on the authority of his father, on the authority of Aba Salt al-Harawi, "Al-Reza (s) spoke with people in their own languages. By God, he was the most eloquent and the most knowledgeable person in any language. One day I told him, ‘O son of the Prophet of God! I am amazed at your mastery over all these various languages.’ Al-Reza (s) said, ‘O Aba Salt! I am the Proof of God for His creatures. God would not designate a Proof for Himself to any nation who does not know their language. Have you not heard that Ali - the Commander of the Faithful (s) said?, ‘We have been granted elaborate speech.’ Then how can this be without mastery of all the languages?’"

 

 

Uyun Akbar al Reza

Is this hadith Sahih?

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حَدَّثَنا أَحْمَدِ بْنِ زِيادِ بْنِ جَعْفَر الهَمْدانِيَّ رَضِىَ اللهُ عَنْهُ قالَ حَدَّثَنا عَلِىِّ بْنِ إِبراهِيمِ بْنِ هاشِم عَنْ أَبي الصَّلْتِ الهَرَوِيِّ قالَ كَانَ الرِّضَا عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ يُكَلِّمُ النَّاسَ بِلُغَاتِهِمْ وَكَانَ وَاللَّهِ أَفْصَحَ النَّاسِ وَأَعْلَمَهُمْ بِكُلِّ لِسَانٍ وَلُغَةٍ فَقُلْتُ لَهُ يَوْماً يَا ابْنَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ إِنِّي لاعْجَبُ مِنْ مَعْرِفَتِكَ بِهَذِهِ اللُّغَاتِ عَلَى اخْتِلافِهَا فَقَالَ يَا أَبَا الصَّلْتِ أَنَا حُجَّةُ اللَّهِ عَلَى خَلْقِهِ وَمَا كَانَ اللَّهُ لِيَتَّخِذَ حُجَّةً عَلَى قَوْمٍ وَهُوَ لا يَعْرِفُ لُغَاتِهِمْ أَوَمَا بَلَغَكَ قَوْلُ أَمِيرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ‏ عَلَيْهِ السَّلامُ أُوتِينَا فَصْلَ الْخِطَابِ فَهَلْ فَصْلُ الْخِطَابِ إِلا مَعْرِفَةُ اللُّغَاتِ

Ahmad ibn Ziyad al-Hamadani - may God be pleased with him - narrated that Ali ibn Ibrahim ibn Hashem quoted on the authority of his father, on the authority of Aba Salt al-Harawi, "Al-Reza (s) spoke with people in their own languages. By God, he was the most eloquent and the most knowledgeable person in any language. One day I told him, ‘O son of the Prophet of God! I am amazed at your mastery over all these various languages.’ Al-Reza (s) said, ‘O Aba Salt! I am the Proof of God for His creatures. God would not designate a Proof for Himself to any nation who does not know their language. Have you not heard that Ali - the Commander of the Faithful (s) said?, ‘We have been granted elaborate speech.’ Then how can this be without mastery of all the languages?’"

 

 

Uyun Akbar al Reza

Is this hadith Sahih?

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركته

Hashim b. Ibraheem isn't in the chain, perhaps that's due to scribbal error though.

و السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بكته

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بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركته

Hashim b. Ibraheem isn't in the chain, perhaps that's due to scribbal error though.

و السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بكته

I see, but the chain is sahih, right?

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I see, but the chain is sahih, right?

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركته

It seems to be Mursal, there are missing narrators between `Alee b. Ibraheem b. Hashim and Abee Salt. Though Dar'ul Islam says Mursal Kal-Saheeh, and he's better in Hadeeth, so listen to him.

و السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بكته

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