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Zuljinah,alam Or Taboot

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hum shia jo zuljinah ,alams or taboot banate han kia hamare imams ne apni life me ye kia ya in ka hukam diya tha or ye kis dor se start hoa or kahan se is ki shroowat hoi or kis ne ise jari kia ,kia imam zainul abideeen a.s se le ker imam Hasan Askari a.s ne is ko apne dor me jari kerne ka hukam diya agar diya to hamari kisi mustanid kitab me is ka hawala dijea

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Alam ki tareekh to kafi poorani hai and it can be traced back to the time of Hazrat Ibrahim(a.s). aik riwayat key mutabiq sab sey phelay Alam ki bunyad Hazrat Ibrahim(a.s) ne daali thi (ref:Manaqibe Sher'e Aashub Vol#3, P#155). Kuch aur murekhin key mutabiq Quraish ka Alam Qusa Ibne Kala'ab key hath mein raha kerta tha baad mein bani hashim key Hathon mein raha.

Jab Hazrat Muhammad(saww) maboos huye to Alam Hazrat Ali(a.s) key supurd fermaya jo Gazwa'e Uhud o' badar mein app key hathon mein hi raha. Iss ka rang sufaid tha. Uhud mein Alam Rasool(saww) key hath mein tha phir Mola Ali(a.s) key hath mein aya. Duran'e larayee Imam Ali(a.s) ki right kohni zakhmi ho gayee to Logon ney Alam app key hath se lena chaha to Rasool(saww) ney farmaya key Ali(a.s) alam left hath mein paker lo, kuyun key tum meray Dunya o' akhrit mein alambardar ho.

Baqi ki karaba mein Alam ki history to i am sure app ko maloom ho gi...jab Hazrat Abbas(a.s) Alambardar thay. Issi liye Alam bahut der sey symbol raha hai Islam ka aur abb bhee issi maany mein istemal kiya jata hai. aik majlis mein Aqeel ul gharvi ney bhee yeh hi kaha that key agertareekh key safay paltay jaain to sab musalmanoon ko ehsas ho jayee ga key Alam ki tareekh bahut poorani hai.

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mera sawal alam ki tareekh or ahmiyat se nahi ha bulke mera sawal ye ha k in cheezon ko waseela banake nazro niyaz mangna or in per mannaten mangne ki tareekh kahan se shuroo hoi or hamare kis imam ne is ki talqeen ki or hukam diya ha kiun k basically aj kal ye cheezen hamare deen ka juzw buni hoi han or basic education jo hamare imams ne di han wo gaib ho chuki han

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Have a deep thought and ask yourself ....if you respect these , than you'll have no issues in finding out the why, how, when and where answers!

and if you think they are just some things that should not have any influence in the relegion ...than stop respecting them and leave it to those who do...

Waslaam

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mera sawal alam ki tareekh or ahmiyat se nahi ha bulke mera sawal ye ha k in cheezon ko waseela banake nazro niyaz mangna or in per mannaten mangne ki tareekh kahan se shuroo hoi or hamare kis imam ne is ki talqeen ki or hukam diya ha kiun k basically aj kal ye cheezen hamare deen ka juzw buni hoi han or basic education jo hamare imams ne di han wo gaib ho chuki han

Yeh jo sari cheezain ki jaatin hain inn ka as such fiqh sey taluq nahee hai balkay zaida aqeeday per dependent hai. its like this kay jab app direct kisi cheez ko nahee dhek saktay to app uss ki shabi bana letain hain aur since uss ko nisbat di jaati hai unn asel hasteeon sey to uss per sab dua or manat charana shuru ker detain hain. As long as all of this remains within the islamic boundaries to koyee masla nahee hai. albata jab aisay traditions start ho jayeein jo shiat ko ghalat roshni mein pesh kerain to masla hota hai.

Jahan tak logon ko usool sikhany ki baat hai woh sub continent key ulema ka masla hai...jab tak koyee sahee guidance nahee dey ga aur sirf fazail bayan keray ga to obvious si baat hai log bhee usool ko chor dein gey. Lekan iss ka yeh matlab nahee hai key taboot ya Alam nikalna koyee ghalat hai. you are confusing two separate issues.

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is tara to hindu bhi yahi kahin ge k khuda hame nazar nahi ata is liyea hum in buton ko shabhee banate han k asal me to wo bhi devtaon ki shabee banate han bhagwan ki nahi ,isi tara hum bhi muqadas hastion se munsalik cheezon ki shabeeh banate han or phir usi tara un per nazro niyaz dete han kia ye hindu mazhab se mutshabey nahi ,kia hamare aima ne hame ye sab kerne ki talqeen ki kia hazrat imam Ali Raza a.s ne imam Hussain ki yad me ye sab kia imam Hussain a.s un ke bhi to samne nahi the ,bat ye han k agar ye tamam baten hamre fiqa me jagah nahi rakhti or is se shiasm per bhi bura asar parta ha to hamare ulema logon ko in cheezon ki nazakat se kiun nahi waqif karate kia ye un ki zime dari nahi ha

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(bismillah)

(salam)

[Clip] Shia Juloos, Alam, Zuljinah, Taboot - Urdu

mera sawal ye tha k in per nazro niyaz mangna or kum ilm shion ka ye kehna k hame jo bhi mutrad mili wo zuljinah ne di ye aqeeda kis hud tuk theek ha or kis imam ne hame ye kerne ki ijazat di ha

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mera sawal ye tha k in per nazro niyaz mangna or kum ilm shion ka ye kehna k hame jo bhi mutrad mili wo zuljinah ne di ye aqeeda kis hud tuk theek ha or kis imam ne hame ye kerne ki ijazat di ha

a'salam

imam e hussain(a) say jo bhi cheez munsalik ho mere mutabiq wo shair Allah ka darja rakhti hay.

shair Allah ki tazeem or un ko wasila bana kar dua karna Allah tala nay jaiz qarar diya hay.

jese safah o marwa

jese hijr e aswad

http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/azadari/en/chap12.php

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Salaam A'laikum,

Ye sub cheeze (Alam, zuljana, taboot) jo Shia karte Pakistan or India mein.

Ye sara cheeze bida'a (innovation - heresy) hain or shamil nai hain hamara Rasool (pbuh) or Imam (salam) ki sunnat mein.

Isi lye khali Pakistani or Indian log karthe hain!

Agar ap ye kaam kareho, Ye kaam ko chordo khuda ki wasata (please) !

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Salaam A'laikum,

Ye sub cheeze (Alam, zuljana, taboot) jo Shia karte Pakistan or India mein.

Ye sara cheeze bida'a (innovation - heresy) hain or shamil nai hain hamara Rasool (pbuh) or Imam (salam) ki sunnat mein.

Isi lye khali Pakistani or Indian log karthe hain!

Agar ap ye kaam kareho, Ye kaam ko chordo khuda ki wasata (please) !

Rasool Allah(s) nay to kisi sahabi k agay (razi Allah tala anhuma) nahi lagaya

wo bidat nahi hay ??????

bidat jantay hain ap kisay kehtay hain ???????

People who venerate Taaziyah are certain to get their sins erased by the blessings of the Holy Prophet (s)

We read in Sawaiqh al Muhriqa page 147

"When King Timur was on his death bed, his face suddenly turned black and his countenance grew horrible. When his situation improved, his soldiers and his relatives asked him about the strange happening. Timur replied: I saw Angels of Torture from Allah come to me to chastise & punish me; hence I trembled from fear and my face contorted and blackened. But all of a sudden, I saw the Holy Prophet (s) come near me and commanded the Angels to go away and declared "I have come to intercede on his behalf for his sins to be erased as he is the lover of my Progeny & my descendents"

Kissing the image of grave

On page 868 of Majma ul Bahrain, the Shi'a author relies on a Sunni reference:

"It is written in kifiyat ul shaabi that a man came to the holy prophet and said, 'O Prophet of Allah I have sworn that I would kiss the door of paradise, what should I do now', the prophet said to him to go and kiss his father's forehead and mother's feet. He said,' what if my parents are not alive?' The prophet replied, kiss the graves of your parents. He said,' I do not know where their graves are', the Prophet said draw two lines on earth and consider them the graves of your parents and then kiss them"

http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/azadari/en/chap12.php

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Salaam A'laikum,

Ye sub cheeze (Alam, zuljana, taboot) jo Shia karte Pakistan or India mein.

Ye sara cheeze bida'a (innovation - heresy) hain or shamil nai hain hamara Rasool (pbuh) or Imam (salam) ki sunnat mein.

Isi lye khali Pakistani or Indian log karthe hain!

Agar ap ye kaam kareho, Ye kaam ko chordo khuda ki wasata (please) !

I Agreeee brother!!!!

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As-salm-o-Alakum

hw r u

I read all the questions from first to last

I do not have too much knowledge about Islam

the Only thing thing which I know is that prophet Mohammad ( peace be upon him) fulfilled his duties completely without any error

same was followed by all Imams (sala wat ullah alyhim ajma een)

just follow them u will succeed do not invent new ways showing ur true but unguided love

Islam is not mine or yours if Allah gave any order to his Rasool(sala wat ullah alyhim) ---Holy Prophet delivered it practically & Imams(sala wat ullah alyhim ajma een ) showed in their times u may know---------- how bound they were to Allah "s orders

Islamic love is different from all other religions if someone claims to be true lover of Mohammad & Al-A-Mohammad (sala wat ullah alyhim ajma een) he must have to follow them---if anyone gives 100% clear proof of traditional Zulginah with reference of any Imam All (sala wat ullah alyhim) have to follow if no one can prove then better will be to leave these............

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