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Sayyid al-Sistani says:

السؤال: ما هي حدود الزينة المسموحة للمرأة خارج المنزل ؟

الفتوى: الزينة الظاهرة ، وهي الكحل والحناء ولبس الخاتم والسوار ونتف الشعر ونحو ذلك ، ولا يجوز إبداء الوجه المزين بالمكياج .

What is the proof of this? He also says that a woman can go out wearing perfume if her aim is to not cause fitna. Why could a woman not wear makeup if her aim is not to "cause fitna?"

I have seen no proof that women can't wear makeup. Please let me know if there is some.

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MIght it be because in this hadith:

[ 25427 ] 3 ـ وعنه عن أحمد بن محمد بن عيسى ، عن محمد بن خالد والحسين بن سعيد ، عن القاسم بن عروة ، عن عبدالله بن بكير ، عن زرارة ، عن أبي عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) ، في قول الله عزّ وجلّ : ( إلاّ ما ظهر منها ) قال : الزينة الظاهرة الكحل والخاتم .

3 – And from him from Ahmad b. Muhammad b. `Isa from Muhammad b. Khalid and al-Husayn b. Sa`id from al-Qasim b. `Urwa from `Abdullah b. Bukayr from Zurara from Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام regarding the saying of Allah, `azza wa jalla “except what it apparent from it.” He said: the apparent adornment is the kohl and the ring.

kohl is mentioned, but not any other type of makeup (if kohl would be considered as "makeup")? Question that might be posed though would be what forms of makeup where known amongst the Muslims in those times.

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Sayyid al-Sistani says:

السؤال: ما هي حدود الزينة المسموحة للمرأة خارج المنزل ؟

الفتوى: الزينة الظاهرة ، وهي الكحل والحناء ولبس الخاتم والسوار ونتف الشعر ونحو ذلك ، ولا يجوز إبداء الوجه المزين بالمكياج .

What is the proof of this? He also says that a woman can go out wearing perfume if her aim is to not cause fitna. Why could a woman not wear makeup if her aim is not to "cause fitna?"

I have seen no proof that women can't wear makeup. Please let me know if there is some.

The perfume does not beautify the woman like the make-up does. Have a look at two women, one who is dressed modestly, not wearing make up but have some perfume on, then look at a women who is wearing full make up -beautifying the eyes, cheeks, lips, eyes lids etc but is not wearing perfume(which one is more attractive?) then think of this fatwa and you'll know the difference. Men are known to be visual and hence visual "zina" is not permitted for women in front of non-mahrams. As for the proof, there is an ayah saying "wa laa yabdeena zinatahona illa ma thahara minhaa...". The scholars who are specified in tafseer explain what is the minimal permissible of zina which is reffered to as "ilaa ma thahara minha" and explained what is impermissible of "wa laa yabdeen zinatahona" .

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MIght it be because in this hadith:

[ 25427 ] 3 Ü æÚäå Úä ÃÍãÏ Èä ãÍãÏ Èä ÚíÓì ¡ Úä ãÍãÏ Èä ÎÇáÏ æÇáÍÓíä Èä ÓÚíÏ ¡ Úä ÇáÞÇÓã Èä ÚÑæÉ ¡ Úä ÚÈÏÇááå Èä ÈßíÑ ¡ Úä ÒÑÇÑÉ ¡ Úä ÃÈí ÚÈÏÇááå ( Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã ) ¡ Ýí Þæá Çááå ÚÒø æÌáø : ( ÅáÇø ãÇ ÙåÑ ãäåÇ ) ÞÇá : ÇáÒíäÉ ÇáÙÇåÑÉ ÇáßÍá æÇáÎÇÊã .

3 – And from him from Ahmad b. Muhammad b. `Isa from Muhammad b. Khalid and al-Husayn b. Sa`id from al-Qasim b. `Urwa from `Abdullah b. Bukayr from Zurara from Abu `Abdillah Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã regarding the saying of Allah, `azza wa jalla “except what it apparent from it.” He said: the apparent adornment is the kohl and the ring.

kohl is mentioned, but not any other type of makeup (if kohl would be considered as "makeup")? Question that might be posed though would be what forms of makeup where known amongst the Muslims in those times.

This is not speaking about makeup at all. It is speaking about the delineation of the 'awrah.

It is contradicted by other saheeh ahadeeth which denote that which a woman may show. This has nothing to do with makeup. The tafseer of this ayat is not established.

ýÝí ÇáÕÍíÍ ÇáãÑæì Úä ÞÑÈ ÇáÇÓäÇÏ Åäå ÞÇá: ÓãÚÊ ÌÚÝÑÇ Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã æÞÏ ÓÆá ÚãÇ ÊÙåÑ ÇáãÑÃÉ ãä ÒíäÊåÇ¡ ÞÇá: ÇáæÌå æÇáßÝíä

(which one is more attractive?)

Not about my personal opinion. I am only asking about halaal and haraam. The ayats you posted have nothing to do with makeup. And...perfume can be smelled from up to 5 meters away and makes everyone raise their heads and look around and stare. Makeup doesn't have the same effect.

Again, just asking for the sake of haraam and halaal.

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This is not speaking about makeup at all. It is speaking about the delineation of the 'awrah.

It is contradicted by other saheeh ahadeeth which denote that which a woman may show. This has nothing to do with makeup. The tafseer of this ayat is not established.

ýÝí ÇáÕÍíÍ ÇáãÑæì Úä ÞÑÈ ÇáÇÓäÇÏ Åäå ÞÇá: ÓãÚÊ ÌÚÝÑÇ Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã æÞÏ ÓÆá ÚãÇ ÊÙåÑ ÇáãÑÃÉ ãä ÒíäÊåÇ¡ ÞÇá: ÇáæÌå æÇáßÝíä

Not about my personal opinion. I am only asking about halaal and haraam. The ayats you posted have nothing to do with makeup. And...perfume can be smelled from up to 5 meters away and makes everyone raise their heads and look around and stare. Makeup doesn't have the same effect.

Again, just asking for the sake of haraam and halaal.

I'm not sure what do you mean by that but if you mean you want to know whether make up is halal or haraam I think the fatwa you quoted already replied to this question. And sorry but what have you studied to say that zina has nothing to do with make up? Forgive my attitude but refer to tafseers and supportive ahadiths and you'll know that make up is part of zina for women.

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I'm not sure what do you mean by that but if you mean you want to know whether make up is halal or haraam I think the fatwa you quoted already replied to this question. And sorry but what have you studied to say that zina has nothing to do with make up? Forgive my attitude but refer to tafseers and supportive ahadiths and you'll know that make up is part of zina for women.

Well, I do not take the fatwa of a marja to be a hujjah in Islaam without doing research and seeing the evidence and proof myself. I am simply asking for a textual proof which definitively states in its spirit that makeup is haraam. I am not speaking about my personal preference, or that which might be mustahhab (not going beyond kohl and henna in beautification).

Imaam al-Saadiq said:

كل ما كان فيه حلال وحرام فهو لك حلال حتى تعرف الحرام بعينه فتدعه

The haraam is very narrow and the halaal is very wide. For a scholar to say:

لا يجوز إبداء الوجه المزين بالمكياج

Takes some proof.

We cannot deny beautification is recommended in some form, in order to distinguish women from men.

عن محمد بن مسلم، عن أبي جعفر (ع) قال: لاينبغي للمرأة أن تعطل نفسها ولو تعلق في عنقها قلادة، ولا ينبغي أن تدع يدها من الخضاب ولو تمسحها مسحا بالحناء وإن كانت مسنة.

It might be recommended to only stick to these forms. However, I would like proof that you cannot go beyond them.

By the way, in an Islamic society, you can consider henna to be a form of attraction and beautification, yet it was recommended here, and a woman can show it.

I would like to see a clear-cut argument for why a scholar has gone so far as to prohibit something.

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Well, I do not take the fatwa of a marja to be a hujjah in Islaam without doing research and seeing the evidence and proof myself. I am simply asking for a textual proof which definitively states in its spirit that makeup is haraam. I am not speaking about my personal preference, or that which might be mustahhab (not going beyond kohl and henna in beautification).

Imaam al-Saadiq said:

كل ما كان فيه حلال وحرام فهو لك حلال حتى تعرف الحرام بعينه فتدعه

The haraam is very narrow and the halaal is very wide. For a scholar to say:

لا يجوز إبداء الوجه المزين بالمكياج

Takes some proof.

I would like to see it.

The proof that satisfy my curiosity beside my intellect(brain tells me make up makes women very attractive and hence it should not be worn outside- as part of a full hijab), aside from that, the ayah I quoted is the proof to me, I do not need further evidence. It makes sense to me.

We cannot deny beautification is recommended in some form, in order to distinguish women from men.

عن محمد بن مسلم، عن أبي جعفر (ع) قال: لاينبغي للمرأة أن تعطل نفسها ولو تعلق في عنقها قلادة، ولا ينبغي أن تدع يدها من الخضاب ولو تمسحها مسحا بالحناء وإن كانت مسنة.

It might be recommended to only stick to these forms. However, I would like proof that you cannot go beyond them.

By the way, in an Islamic society, you can consider henna to be a form of attraction and beautification, yet it was recommended here, and a woman can show it.

I would like to see a clear-cut argument for why a scholar has gone so far as to prohibit something.

Your hadith does not say women can show it(being attractive hena). Takes proof.

(Although Hena in our society is not considered lustful or attractive, again compare yourself henna on hand as opposed to make up on face)

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Your hadith does not say women can show it(being attractive hena). Takes proof.

It clearly states that you can show it.

عن محمد بن مسلم، عن أبي جعفر (ع) قال: لاينبغي للمرأة أن تعطل نفسها ولو تعلق في عنقها قلادة، ولا ينبغي أن تدع يدها من الخضاب ولو تمسحها مسحا بالحناء وإن كانت مسنة.

‎في الصحيح المروى عن قرب الاسناد إنه قال: سمعت جعفرا عليه السلام وقد سئل عما تظهر المرأة من زينتها، قال: الوجه والكفين

It is recommended that a woman have henna on her hands. And, the delineation of the 'awrah is that the face and hands can be shown by a woman in public.

It is extremely severe to declare something haraam. If it is haraam, I wish to see proof. There is no definitive proof here that it is haraam...and it is already proven that from the parts of the body a woman may show, she is allowed to beautify herself through them. It might be a subtle issue where many facets and conditions will have to be taken into account when making the ruling. However, I wish to see proof, in the spirit of a narration, that wearing makeup is haraam.

My brain tells me that in public men lower their gazes...and that when women wear perfume, heads automatically raise and look around and it causes more "fitna" than makeup, as there will be much more staring and scrutinizing.

However, there is no direct textual proof that perfume is haraam, except if it is done by a married woman without her husband's permission. Other than this case, it would have to be evaluated based on many factors, but it is not something definitive in every situation.

I am asking about haraam and halaal alone. Not what any personal preferences are.

So, proof is all that matters.

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(salam)

These rulings were posted few years ago

(bismillah) (salam)

Sayed Sistani

Q: Many girls these day put make up - (such as lipstick, blush, powder, whitener and nail polish) - while wearing hijab. Are such acts proper according to shariah?

A: In such cases, its imperative that the face be veiled.

Q: Is it permissible for a woman to wear makeup if she is in proper Islamic hijab (i.e.. Her face is uncovered)

A: It is not permissible

Q: what is the ruling for permanent makeup on the eyebrows or eyelids?

A: It becomes necessary for the face to be covered in the presence non-mahrams.

Q: Is it permissible for women to put on makeup and attend her workplace?

A: It is not permissible to reveal a made-up face in front of non-mahrams.

Q: Is it permissible for a woman to adorn herself with makeup and come out in the presence of non-mahrams?

A: It is permissible to adorn oneself, but it is obligatory to cover in front of a non-mahram

Q: Are the following considered haram adornments that a woman cannot reveal in front of a non-mahram; light eyeliner, plucked eyebrows, light lipstick, perfume, ring, bracelet and necklace that is visible?

A: It is not necessary to cover if it is only eyeliner (kohl), plucked eyebrows, ring and bracelet. All other adornments (zeena) need to be concealed, so too a made up face. As for perfume, it is not haram unless the intention is to make a man fall into haram, or if possible corruption may result from wearing it.

http://www.najaf.org/english/book/5/inside/48.htm

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عن محمد بن مسلم، عن أبي جعفر (ع) قال: لاينبغي للمرأة أن تعطل نفسها ولو تعلق في عنقها قلادة، ولا ينبغي أن تدع يدها من الخضاب ولو تمسحها مسحا بالحناء وإن كانت مسنة.

Out of curiousity, where is this chain from Muhammad b. Muslim from?

For those who can't read Arabic:

[1597] 1 ـ محمد بن علي بن الحسين قال : قال الصادق ( عليه السلام ) : لا ينبغي للمرأة أن تعطل نفسها ولو أن تعلق في عنقها قلادة ، ولا ينبغي لها أن تدع يدها من الخضاب ولو أن تمسحها بالحناء مسحا ، وإن كانت مسنة.

ورواه في ( المجالس ) عن محمد بن موسى بن المتوكل ، عن محمد بن يحيى ، عن أحمد بن محمد بن عيسى ، عن أحمد بن محمد بن أبي نصر، عن داود بن سرحان قال : قال أبو عبدالله ( عليه السلام ) ، وذكر مثله.

1 – Muhammad b. `Ali b. al-Husayn said: As-Sadiq عليه السلام said: It is not appropriate for the woman to have herself be without ornament, even if she so much as hangs a necklace on her neck. And it is not appropriate for her leave off dying her hand, even if she so much as wipes it with henna a (single) wiping, even if she is aged.

And he narrated it in al-Majalis from Muhammad b. Musa b. al-Mutawakkil from Muhammad b. Yahya from Ahmad b. Muhammad b. `Isa from Ahmad b. Muhammad b. Abi Nasr from Dawud b. Sarhan. He said: Abu `Abdillah عليه السلام said, and he mentioned its like.

[1598] 2 ـ الحسن بن الفضل الطبرسي في ( مكارم الأخلاق ) : عن جعفر بن محمد ( عليه السلام ) ، قال : رخص رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) للمرأة أن تخضب رأسها بالسواد ، قال : وأمر رسول الله ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) النساء بالخضاب ذات البعل وغير ذات البعل ، أما ذات البعل فتزين لزوجها ، وأما غير ذات البعل فلا تشبه يدها يد الرجال.

2 – al-Hasan b. al-Fadl at-Tabrisi in Makarim al-Akhlaq from Ja`far b. Muhammad عليه السلام. He said: The Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله permitted the woman to dye her head black. He said: And the Messenger of Allah صلى الله عليه وآله commanded the women to dye, whether they had a husband or were without husband. As to the one with a husband, (it was) so that she might beautify [beautify herself – in Makarim] for her husband. And as to the one without a husband, (it was) so that her hand not resemble the hand of men.

http://www.*******.org/hadiths/tahara/personal-hygiene/dislike-of-a-woman-abandoning-self-beautification

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jazakAllah khayr.

Yeah, pretty rare he'd miss a reference like that I'd think, especially Kafi which is usually first on his citations.

I wonder though, on the original question, what exactly _did_ women back then wear for beautification? Obviously henna for one as we can see here. But did other types of cosmetics exist, particularly in Muslim lands? If they didn't exist and women used such means as henna on the hands and kohl in the eyes as their beautifiers, and if those would in fact be allowed to be worn in the presence of non-mahrams, it does raise questions as to how we could now say that such things as lipstick and blush are haram to expose if they didn't actually exist back then.

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jazakAllah khayr.

Yeah, pretty rare he'd miss a reference like that I'd think, especially Kafi which is usually first on his citations.

I wonder though, on the original question, what exactly _did_ women back then wear for beautification? Obviously henna for one as we can see here. But did other types of cosmetics exist, particularly in Muslim lands? If they didn't exist and women used such means as henna on the hands and kohl in the eyes as their beautifiers, and if those would in fact be allowed to be worn in the presence of non-mahrams, it does raise questions as to how we could now say that such things as lipstick and blush are haram to expose if they didn't actually exist back then.

All good questions. I'm sure there's many factors to it all. But we should not forget that personal preference can exist within that which is halaal, and we are interested only in finding that which has proof. Then the other factors such as personal preference can fall into place and their right place can be explored. But we are dealing with haraam and halaal alone, and we must never use language which is not objective in this regard. Even if other cosmetics did exist (surely, they did), if there is nothing which prohibits them either directly, or in spirit, then we cannot say they are haraam.

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(salam)

(bismillah)

I wonder though, on the original question, what exactly _did_ women back then wear for beautification? Obviously henna for one as we can see here. But did other types of cosmetics exist, particularly in Muslim lands? If they didn't exist and women used such means as henna on the hands and kohl in the eyes as their beautifiers, and if those would in fact be allowed to be worn in the presence of non-mahrams, it does raise questions as to how we could now say that such things as lipstick and blush are haram to expose if they didn't actually exist back then.

Yes, sir. This is my definition I have when you look at the Usool of the hadeeth. If it was not around, or not possible to be made, you'll take the Usool of the hadeeth and put it in todays terms.

(salam)

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All good questions. I'm sure there's many factors to it all. But we should not forget that personal preference can exist within that which is halaal, and we are interested only in finding that which has proof. Then the other factors such as personal preference can fall into place and their right place can be explored. But we are dealing with haraam and halaal alone, and we must never use language which is not objective in this regard. Even if other cosmetics did exist (surely, they did), if there is nothing which prohibits them either directly, or in spirit, then we cannot say they are haraam.

I don't know this for a fact, it's a guess, but I wonder if the argument on this might run something like that the basic rule for women in the presence of non-mahram men is that they must completely cover themselves except for X. If the basic rule is covering, and the rest is the exception to that basic rule, perhaps they're going by that unless the exception is clearly stated in the sources, they can't say that it would also be included in the X set of exceptions.

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I don't know this for a fact, it's a guess, but I wonder if the argument on this might run something like that the basic rule for women in the presence of non-mahram men is that they must completely cover themselves except for X. If the basic rule is covering, and the rest is the exception to that basic rule, perhaps they're going by that unless the exception is clearly stated in the sources, they can't say that it would also be included in the X set of exceptions.

Yeah, but as I outlined...that argument holds little weight:

Qur'an 24:31:

And tell the believing women to reduce their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their beauty except that which is apparent thereof. (ولايبدين زينتهن الا ماظهر منها)

What is the "apparent beauty" that women are allowed to show in public?

‎في الصحيح المروى عن قرب الاسناد إنه قال: سمعت جعفرا عليه السلام وقد سئل عما تظهر المرأة من زينتها، قال: الوجه والكفين

Saheeh from Qurb al-Isnaad: I heard Ja'far عليه السلام and he was asked about that which a woman may show (lit. make apparent) from her beauty? He said, "Her face and two palms."

‎عن الآخر في صحيحة علي بن جعفر المروية في قرب الإسناد: عن الرجل ما يصلح أن ينظر من المرأة التي لا تحل له ؟ قال: " الوجه والكفان

Saheeh from Qurb al-Isnaad: About the man, what is permissible to look at from the woman who is a non-mahram? He said, "Her face and two palms."

The ayat is speaking about the physical parts of the body that can be shown. Moreover, it is indicated that it is mustahhab to put henna on the hands. So, a man can look at this beauty. It cannot be denied that this narration is speaking of it in a way which is about beautification, as it speaks of a necklace, etc. All of the words indicate this, including, تعطل نفسها

عن محمد بن مسلم، عن أبي جعفر (ع) قال: لاينبغي للمرأة أن تعطل نفسها ولو تعلق في عنقها قلادة، ولا ينبغي أن تدع يدها من الخضاب ولو تمسحها مسحا بالحناء وإن كانت مسنة.

So, from what a woman is allowed to show from her "beauty" in public (face and hands), we know that on top of what she is allowed to show, she is allowed to beautify some of that already, and it is mustahhab, through direct narrations. Henna is something which lasts...it's not like you put it on in private and wash it off when you go into public. This is a semi-permenant thing which, given the first narration, a woman would be legally allowed to show in public, and which is spoken about in terms of beautification. And if she is allowed to show her face, what would prevent a woman with the right intention from beautifying that, as she did her hands which is not only allowed, but encouraged?

If there is nothing which speaks against facial makeup in its spirit, we cannot make in haraam. That is first and foremost. Secondly, there is a very strong ruling and precedence in place which lends credence to it being more than acceptable. Makeup has negative connotations among some in Muslim countries. However, there are people who do not wear it to attract others. And their personal preference is their personal preference. If they have taken into account whatever social conditions exist, and still feel they wish to wear it, we cannot say it is haraam for them to do so if no other proof exists.

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I wonder though, on the original question, what exactly _did_ women back then wear for beautification? Obviously henna for one as we can see here. But did other types of cosmetics exist, particularly in Muslim lands? If they didn't exist and women used such means as henna on the hands and kohl in the eyes as their beautifiers, and if those would in fact be allowed to be worn in the presence of non-mahrams, it does raise questions as to how we could now say that such things as lipstick and blush are haram to expose if they didn't actually exist back then.

They did have something like lipstick to turn the lips red yet it was haraam in public . It was a branch/wood from a certain type of tree, when you put in water and put it on the lips it keeps them red for a while...Women back then used that as beautification. They also used the same water of that wood on their cheeks to turn them pinkish...I think the wood was called "dayram" not sure though.

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(salam)

(bismillah)

They did have something like lipstick to turn the lips red yet it was haraam in public . It was a branch/wood from a certain type of tree, when you put in water and put it on the lips it keeps them red for a while...Women back then used that as beautification. They also used the same water of that wood on their cheeks to turn them pinkish...I think the wood was called "dayram" not sure though.

Is there a reference to this?

(salam)

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They did have something like lipstick to turn the lips red yet it was haraam in public . It was a branch/wood from a certain type of tree, when you put in water and put it on the lips it keeps them red for a while...Women back then used that as beautification. They also used the same water of that wood on their cheeks to turn them pinkish...I think the wood was called "dayram" not sure though.

And...this would be the proof that would be needed to make facial makeup haraam. If you could share the reference that it's haraam.

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There is this narration:

Ýí ÑæÇíÉ ÃÈí ÇáÌÇÑæÏ Úä ÃÈí ÌÚÝÑ Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã Ýí Þæáå: { æáÇ íÈÏíä ÒíäÊåä ÅáÇ ãÇ ÙåÑ ãäåÇ } Ýåí ÇáËíÇÈ æÇáßÍá æÇáÎÇÊã æÎÖÇÈ ÇáßÝ æÇáÓæÇÑ¡ æÇáÒíäÉ ËáÇË: ÒíäÉ ááäÇÓ æÒíäÉ ááãÍÑã æÒíäÉ ááÒæÌ¡ ÝÇãÇ ÒíäÉ ÇáäÇÓ ÝÞÏ ÐßÑäÇå¡ æÃãÇ ÒíäÉ ÇáãÍÑã ÝãæÖÚ ÇáÞáÇÏÉ ÝãÇ ÝæÞåÇ æÇáÏãáÌ æãÇ Ïæäå æÇáÎáÎÇá æãÇ ÃÓÝá ãäå. æÃãÇ ÒíäÉ ááÒæÌ ÝÇáÌÓÏ ßáå æÃãÇ Þæáå: { Ãæ ÇáÊÇÈÚíä ÛíÑ Ãæáí ÇáÅÑÈÉ ãä ÇáÑÌÇá } Ýåæ ÇáÔíÎ ÇáßÈíÑ ÇáÝÇäí ÇáÐí áÇ ÍÇÌÉ áå Ýí ÇáäÓÇÁ æÇáØÝá ÇáÐí áã íÙåÑ Úáì ÚæÑÇÊ ÇáäÓÇÁ æÃãÇ Þæáå: { æáÇ íÖÑÈä ÈÃÑÌáåä áíÚáã ãÇ íÎÝíä ãä ÒíäÊåä } íÞæá æáÇ ÊÖÑÈ ÅÍÏì ÑÌáíåÇ ÈÇáÃÎÑì áíÞÑÚ ÇáÎáÎÇá ÈÇáÎáÎÇá.

http://altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=4&tTafsirNo=38&tSoraNo=24&tAyahNo=31&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=1

However, it is weak because: No isnaad, weak principle narrator, disputed tafseer authorship.

But, had it been saheeh, it would serve as a limitation on the beautification which a woman is able to display, as it includes henna on the hands, but does not include facial makeup outside of kuhl. Therefore, limiting forms of beautification other than the kinds mentioned. However, the saheeh narration of this tafseer mentions body parts alone, without inclusion of any mention of beautification.

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(salam)

The ayat is speaking about the physical parts of the body that can be shown. Moreover, it is indicated that it is mustahhab to put henna on the hands. So, a man can look at this beauty.

Can you shed some lights on why henna on a woman hands are permissible?

I was told they are haram for unmarried girl, except for married women because that is unavoidable (she can put henna for her husband). I know this contradict other hadiths where women palm can be seen. And I think I am wrong. But since you are searching for hadiths, maybe you know? :unsure:

Thanks.

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(salam)

Can you shed some lights on why henna on a woman hands are permissible?

I was told they are haram for unmarried girl, except for married women because that is unavoidable (she can put henna for her husband). I know this contradict other hadiths where women palm can be seen. And I think I am wrong. But since you are searching for hadiths, maybe you know? :unsure:

Thanks.

(wasalam)

I don't know anything about it outside of what I've posted here.

The two narrations have been posted here already:

The second one is weak, as it is reported without an isnaad. However, as you see it says that both married and unmarried women can dye their hands with henna. The first one is saheeh.

Can you shed some lights on why henna on a woman hands are permissible?

The important thing is to look for proof that something is haraam. Not to look for proof that something is halaal. Because the default state of things is that they are halaal, until there is proof that they're haraam. Not the other way around. Prohibited things are the exception, not the rule.

There is no authentic narration I have found which specifies that henna must be on only married women, or limits it in some way. Unless there is a narration which either directly or in spirit says that henna cannot be worn by unmarried women--then it is halaal.

Everything is halaal unless you know otherwise. As Imam Ja'far said:

كل ما كان فيه حلال وحرام فهو لك حلال حتى تعرف الحرام بعينه فتدعه

Everything in which there is halaal and haraam, it is halaal for you, until you come across it being haraam in itself, then let it go.

If you wish to speak about whether something is recommended or not, that is fine. But to declare something to be haraam takes proof. Absence of mention or recommendation does not constitute a grounds by which to make something haraam.

Edited by avjar7

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Bismillah

Salam

The 'fitnah' that is mentioned in your post at the top of the page is basically females trying to seduce males from Allah's restrictions.

Fitnah means causing others to fall into sins (in this situation) . It is Haram for men to stare at non-mahram women, and make-up attracts non-mahram.

So therefore, make-up is haram (anyways, why would you want to wear make-up in the first place? do you want other men to look at you? Astaghfirullah)

HARAAM. HARAAM, HARAAM. HARAAM. HARAAM. HARAAM. HARAAM.

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Only Allah knows your intentions: "...And I know what you reveal, and what you hide." (Surat Al-Baqara, Ayat 33)

May Allah Guide us to 'Siratul Mustaqeem' which means 'The Right Path'.

And Allah Knows Best.

Edited by Hameedeh
Spamming the word HARAAM 35+ times.

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