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Thoughts (2010-2016) [ARCHIVE]

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Guest silasun

Sometimes it might be more exciting if BBC replaced Robot wars with SC wars on Sunday evenings.

Seriously guys, why can't we all just be friends and hug each other (and trees too)...

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5 hours ago, The Batman said:

I think sister you are getting the impression that I support pollution. I don't (why would any human want that?) - I believe in clean air and water. And yes it would be haram to poison waters which could potentially haram people.

This is not the case with modern environmentalists. Environmentalists are complaining about "deforestation" to create cities (completely within private rights) - and/or closing down oil and coal jobs which aren't haram at all. Destroying people's livelihoods over petty reasons.

Islam gives people many land rights, which sadly, environmentalists want to take down.

And finally, you can be a tree hugger sis, but you cannot complain when others cut down their trees when it is within their Islamic rights.

Lol. Well. Tree-hugger bashing aside, and taking into consideration what @notme and @Darth Vader have said...this is the real scoop around here.

There are restrictions on what one does with one's land. Always has been and always will be. The reason is that what you do on your property affects mine. Ecosystems and watersheds do not care about property lines. For instance, if the farmer upstream of me cuts too many trees, it can create too much runoff which will affect my water quality and destroy my fields. Likewise, if the one uphill of me cuts too many trees, the runoff ,seepage, and lack of root retaining systems  will create a landslide and we have had people killed by those. The trees are more than just pretty things to look at. 

Besides the endangered species trees that you have to get a permit to cut, even if they are on your property, you have a duty to not harm your neighbors. Any decent person selling you the property will tell you what issues there are so you can decide if you want to play by the rules or not. If not, you can be hauled into court for damages. Back in the day, people would often just dispense with court and haul you into the forest. If you did not come out no one would look too hard for you.

The " tree-huggers" here often consist of farmers, ranchers, fishermen, and hunters who take a dim view of folks who think their rights supersede everyone else's.  Even timber companies have found their expensive equipment comes to grief overnight. I shed a tear for those innocent bulldozers.

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7 hours ago, The Batman said:

Wow. What a pathetic comment.

You failed to back up your original comment where you attempted to "prove" a lack of akhlaq in my original post to you. So you tried to save yourself the embarrassment by telling the world about a "previous issue" inside of the chatroom which happened a while ago. How pathetic is that? Can you prove to me where I lacked akhlaq in my original post to you? Or are you simply someone who likes to spew out the word "akhlaq" for no real reason? 

All I asked is whether they are a bunch of tree huggers or not, I never accused them of being such, I asked YOU a question. Get that through your head.

I have read that quote about the Green Party. That does not prove Anti-Zionism, that proves an anti-Israeli stance. An anti-Zionist stance would be to believe Israel has NO RIGHT to exist. Once you bring me proof that the Green Party supports such a stance, I will then admit to you they are anti-Zionist. Please don't try to act like an expert on terminology, I'm not trying to be harsh on you, but it's best you search up what terms mean before you use them incorrectly.

No one supports pollution, I don't know how you got that from my statement. Since when did being against tree hugging become being pro-pollution?

Allah has given humans many rights and freedoms to do certain things in the land. To oppose another man chopping down his own tree that he owns, that is haram. Allah has given him private authority to cut down that tree. Are you denying environmentalists don't get upset when many trees are cut down? Yet it's none of their business.

 

Not to defend the hippies, but: it's not just the business of the person, group, or state to which the trees belong. At least, it's not just their business if they are committing israf. We are not allowed to simply waste resources which were divinely bestowed upon us.

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1 hour ago, LeftCoastMom said:

I am so sorry, @hasanhh. Please forgive me for my uncharitable behavior. It was an unchristian thing to say. So now that I have finished my Mea culpas, I have one question,

Do you think I could get them to take the Kardashians, too?

( That is probably worth the extra years in Purgatory) 

#sorrynotsorry

Well, first, lt is the Cartrashians...

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5 hours ago, notme said:

I think we all will agree that the middle path is best.    ...

No, we don't "all will agree". At least I do not.

This neo-communist Hegelian Dialectic stuff is a hangover from the 20th Century.

thesis develops an anti-thesis ---> synthesis which morphs into a new thesis ...    :dwarf:"give me a mind break"

Which brings me to a "Thought":  Which is it?

"All gov'ts possess communist characteristics."

or

"Old communist gov'ts had the characteristics of expected administrative behaviors."

Note: the thread title is "Thoughts", not "Good Thoughts".

 

 

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Guest silasun

My heart is broken, brain is tired. Sadness has prevailed and I am dead on the inside.... :/

I need a bit of help

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On July 30, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Gaius I. Caesar said:

Never mind, I take it back. Jill Stein would be a pretty good option, her platform fits my values. 

I knew I could count on you. The Libertarians, whatever their good and bad points, did not seem your style.

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11 minutes ago, LeftCoastMom said:

I knew I could count on you. The Libertarians, whatever their good and bad points, did not seem your style.

I never was Libertarian, I mean I tried but they are too close to the Republicans for my taste. However I do wish there was a group of "green conservatives" who are or strongly support Muslims and their community here. 

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The earth could be destroyed by an asteroid in less than 200 years. Even if WW3 is avoided and a Trump presidency survived, are we going to be able to cobble together the technology and resources we need to blast the asteroid away from the earth? thinking gif.gif 

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2 hours ago, silasun said:

My heart is broken, brain is tired. Sadness has prevailed and I am dead on the inside.... :/

I need a bit of help

 

You know the expression, "turn that frown upside down?"

 

That expression is garbage. What you need to do is turn that frown into a scowl. Turn that sadness into pure hatred. 

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4 hours ago, silasun said:

My heart is broken, brain is tired. Sadness has prevailed and I am dead on the inside.... :/

I need a bit of help

Treat yourself to a hot chocolate and have a good sleep. InshAllah things will seem better in the morning.

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38 minutes ago, Ruq said:

The earth could be destroyed by an asteroid in less than 200 years. Even if WW3 is avoided and a Trump presidency survived, are we going to be able to cobble together the technology and resources we need to blast the asteroid away from the earth? thinking gif.gif 

Looks like you have seen Deep Impact and Armageddon a few times. I have too :)

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5 hours ago, baradar_jackson said:

 

Not to defend the hippies, but: it's not just the business of the person, group, or state to which the trees belong. At least, it's not just their business if they are committing israf. We are not allowed to simply waste resources which were divinely bestowed upon us.

Building cities is not israf bro.

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2 hours ago, Ruq said:

The earth could be destroyed by an asteroid in less than 200 years. Even if WW3 is avoided and a Trump presidency survived, are we going to be able to cobble together the technology and resources we need to blast the asteroid away from the earth? thinking gif.gif 

Yes...we are good at blasting.

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3 hours ago, Ruq said:

The earth could be destroyed by an asteroid in less than 200 years. Even if WW3 is avoided and a Trump presidency survived, are we going to be able to cobble together the technology and resources we need to blast the asteroid away from the earth? thinking gif.gif 

I think we will, if we see it coming. Far enough away, it would only need a little nudge. We have the technology to do that.

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Guest silasun

So it's motnunh, and I feel better (thanks ruq-didn't have a hot chocolate.... engerland is a cauldron these days...). Thanks baradar anf lcm too

But I am having a few mood swings recently... not in interaction with others (I sm quite a mild dude) but on the inside I often feel down. Do you guys have a practical solution... I don't really have zny ccool peepz tp hang out with thesd days either.

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11 hours ago, silasun said:

My heart is broken, brain is tired. Sadness has prevailed and I am dead on the inside.... :/

I need a bit of help

I am sorry to hear that, all I can say is that whenever you rely on people to be the source of anything for you, you will be disappointed. It is just a matter of time. So rely only on Allah(SWT) and you will never be disappointed.

And do not expect life on dunya to be easy, the Holy Quran says:

[90:4] We have certainly created man into hardship.

And do not expect life on dunya to be fun either, because you do not go to the airport to have fun, you go to the airport to find your flight and make it in time.

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4 minutes ago, The Batman said:

Am I arguing for pollution and wasting resources? Or am I arguing for less strict rules on land rights?

I'm defending against pollution and wasting resources and arguing for israf as well as stating the reason why the Green Party appeals to me, I never said anything about land rights. 

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3 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

You don't think that the Green Party will be shutting down coal mines and other stuff potentially putting thousands of people out of of jobs?

You don't think the Green Party will regulate it so that you cannot get rid of such tree because it is "endangered" and other stuff?

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